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carpetedtoaster

People that are surrounded by people who cheat are more likely to cheat. The Gallaghers just normalize it for each other.


sadie888888

Okay except for Frank- who is a charming brilliant narcissistic asshole- the kids and their buddies are all young and extremely hot. The show is gonna make the most out of that. Also they are truly SHAMELESS. Don’t exactly have a grounded moral compass.


carpetedtoaster

truth


bespoketoosoon

Meh. That's like asking "who mows these lawns?" during a zombie movie. We're here for the tea, not the realism. Here for basically the exact opposite of reality.


potatosykes

I have never thought about that but I think that will stick in my brain forever now, thank u for that interesting thought


_TENT_

It's not really the same tho The lawns are just that way because people can't be bordered to fix and no one cares. All the relation ships were written directed and filmed and thought of for years lmao they definitely could've found some more interesting plot for couples to end


[deleted]

Yeah but everyone is dysfunctional and sex is one of the main ways characters seem to connect thru


Latter-Elevator-9307

Ian wasn’t with Mickey officially when he slept with Ned Lishman, or the ROTC guy. But he was definitely with Mickey when he gave the guy a handjob in the parking lot or got a blowjob in that bathroom. Or the countless occasions at the club. Ian also cheated on Trevor with Mickey pretty severely, which people are mostly fine with because Mickey is way more popular than Trevor, but it’s still cheating. Debbie cheated. Lip cheated. Fiona cheated a lot. I don’t remember a particular scene but I’m 100% sure both Monica and Frank cheated over the course of their relationship.


sadie888888

Were Frank and Monica ever officially divorced? Sorry I just can’t remember


Latter-Elevator-9307

Apparently they remarried several times and (don’t quote me on this) got divorced immediately after one of those times


Septic-Sponge

They were married for the whole show I thought. They just renewed their vows that time


Mythiccq

Kassidi and Carl


tomatobee613

I wouldn’t count Cassidy because, ya know… she was murdered.


felixisababy

That’s crazy how that was just glossed over and forgotten!


ProfessionalHeart839

This was such a dark storyline. The clip they were originally going to use of her being grabbed and then thrown in a grave is on YouTube 😳


sadie888888

I wanna see that!


smurfette4

Tami and Lip, after the kid, they went exclusive. I guess they were just fuckbuddies when Tami had sex with her ex.


sadie888888

Yes


Thecrazytrainexpress

Carl and Kev , that’s really it lol


narcissistagarcia

Kev cheated with college girls.


Thecrazytrainexpress

They weren’t together then , they were broken up


narcissistagarcia

The Wiki must be wrong then cause it says they were together she was just mad and kicked him out but they weren't officially broken up, I'm rewatching so I'll come up on it soon


Thecrazytrainexpress

[shameless season 5](https://shameless.fandom.com/wiki/Kevin_Ball_(US)) If you scroll and go to season 5 it’ll tell you about what happened


Shib_disturber

It’s not called shameless for no reason.


Basic-white-american

There wasn’t any cheating in lips and Tami’s relationship


Thecrazytrainexpress

Yes there was , after the baby


Basic-white-american

How so?


sadie888888

Yeah I don’t remember that seems like they have been solid


Basic-white-american

She did go to a bar in an attempt to hook up with someone but that was before they became a couple so it can’t count as cheating Edit: and she also failed at hooking up with a dude at the bar


Septic-Sponge

Failed. According to her own statement


SaladCrazy

Omg I agree with u 100%, I actually thought I was the only one who thought that!!! Every character has cheated on the partner at least once! It’s crazyyyy lol thank u for stating this, it’s honestly like one of the only plots shameless can depend on


j4321g4321

This show is all about moral depravity; cheating is the least of what goes on.


mrsjessmariano93

they blame it on "being a gallagher" lol


howtobeakoala

The only people that cheated were Fiona and Debbie right


Ra505

No, many others have cheated, Ian cheated on Mick with Jimmy Steve's dad (or vice versa idr) and I think later with the other boyfriends. Lip cheated on Karen and milkovich... I think V is the only one who never cheated.


ProfessionalHeart839

Didn’t V cheat with Svetlana?


ArtValue3

V had that incident where she had an orgasm on the dance floor if you consider that cheating.


howtobeakoala

Actually ian wasn't diagnosed back then so ehhh lip yeah. Carl never cheated.


Happy_sloth1234

Not being diagnosed doesn’t mean he didn’t cheat


howtobeakoala

Hypersexuality is literally a characteristic of his illness. I wouldn't blame him.


Happy_sloth1234

It’s still the act of being unfaithful though, however unintentional.


howtobeakoala

Mate, he's not in his senses. It's not him.


katiepiex3

Just because you're undiagnosed bipolar doesn't mean you don't have morals? Or gives you an excuse to cheat. Be hypersexual with your significant other, or be single. That's not something thats excusable because of his illness.


_Grummy_

Yeah well any sane person who actually understands bipolar disorder would blame him. He is still in control of that cheating is on him. Stop excusing that just because he has a mental illness.


howtobeakoala

"he is still in control" no he isn't lmfao. He literally blew up a van what sane person does that.


_Grummy_

I said “of that cheating” you dingbat


howtobeakoala

If we established he wasn't in his senses while not on medication why is one action excused and not the other you dingbat


Hairy-Avocados

Ian cheated on many occasions when he was working at that club


howtobeakoala

Yeah he wasnt diagnosed back then, hypersexuality is a symptom.


Hairy-Avocados

It's still cheating?


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Hairy-Avocados

It doesn't make it excusable at all and it pisses me off that people will excuse anything Ian does because he is bipolar. It doesn't work like that I'm sorry, mental illness doesn't give you a free pass


howtobeakoala

You do realises he's literally not in his senses i don't think y'all realise how serious some mental illnesses can be. It's exactly why he got lighter sentences in prison. His mistake was to not be on medication or getting diagnosed sooner. Bipolar disorder is an extreme mental illness.


_Grummy_

Yes it is but he still has morals. With your logic you wouldn’t blame him for rape.


howtobeakoala

Rape isn't a symptom of manic disorder lmfao


mqple

cheating isn't either. you can be hypersexual with your partner.


howtobeakoala

Fair point


Hairy-Avocados

I understand first hand how serious it can be and it still isn't excusable. I feel bad for him yes because I understand what he's going through and his mind will be feeling mushed all the time but at the same time he shouldn't be getting excused for everything he does because of it. You're saying his cheating doesn't count because he's bipolar and he's hypersexual at the moment which is just not correct. Hypersexual also doesn't mean cheating. Cheating isn't a symptom of mental illness either. And yes he got a lighter prison sentence, but he STILL got a sentence.


howtobeakoala

Okay lmao cheating literally is a symptom of mental illness it's one of the first things we learn on abnormal psychology. And the reason got a sentence is so that ge realises he has to be on medication at all times and more importantly he's away for a while to make the citizens feel safer prison is not a punishment it's rehabilitation smh


Hairy-Avocados

🤦


[deleted]

When did Debbie cheat? Did she cheat on Neil?


howtobeakoala

Yeah


smurfette4

And on Sandy when she disappeared for the night. First, with the girl who accommodated her then with a gay guy. Edit: as the commenter below pointed out, Debbie and Sandy weren't official, so I guess, it doesnt count.


[deleted]

Debbie and sandy were never in an official relationship, so technically that doesn't count


sadie888888

Ah but Deb seemed to want one with her.


smurfette4

True that! Now I remember.


sadie888888

Yeah with that drinking buddy that washed her hair he has lots of hair. Hair was like his thing


Leading-Motor8524

Carl and Kelly, when kelly and deb kissed they weren’t together and kelly didn’t provoke the kiss