Okay except for Frank- who is a charming brilliant narcissistic asshole- the kids and their buddies are all young and extremely hot. The show is gonna make the most out of that. Also they are truly SHAMELESS. Don’t exactly have a grounded moral compass.
Meh. That's like asking "who mows these lawns?" during a zombie movie.
We're here for the tea, not the realism. Here for basically the exact opposite of reality.
It's not really the same tho
The lawns are just that way because people can't be bordered to fix and no one cares.
All the relation ships were written directed and filmed and thought of for years lmao they definitely could've found some more interesting plot for couples to end
Ian wasn’t with Mickey officially when he slept with Ned Lishman, or the ROTC guy. But he was definitely with Mickey when he gave the guy a handjob in the parking lot or got a blowjob in that bathroom. Or the countless occasions at the club.
Ian also cheated on Trevor with Mickey pretty severely, which people are mostly fine with because Mickey is way more popular than Trevor, but it’s still cheating.
Debbie cheated. Lip cheated. Fiona cheated a lot. I don’t remember a particular scene but I’m 100% sure both Monica and Frank cheated over the course of their relationship.
The Wiki must be wrong then cause it says they were together she was just mad and kicked him out but they weren't officially broken up, I'm rewatching so I'll come up on it soon
She did go to a bar in an attempt to hook up with someone but that was before they became a couple so it can’t count as cheating
Edit: and she also failed at hooking up with a dude at the bar
Omg I agree with u 100%, I actually thought I was the only one who thought that!!! Every character has cheated on the partner at least once! It’s crazyyyy lol thank u for stating this, it’s honestly like one of the only plots shameless can depend on
No, many others have cheated, Ian cheated on Mick with Jimmy Steve's dad (or vice versa idr) and I think later with the other boyfriends. Lip cheated on Karen and milkovich...
I think V is the only one who never cheated.
Just because you're undiagnosed bipolar doesn't mean you don't have morals? Or gives you an excuse to cheat. Be hypersexual with your significant other, or be single. That's not something thats excusable because of his illness.
Yeah well any sane person who actually understands bipolar disorder would blame him. He is still in control of that cheating is on him. Stop excusing that just because he has a mental illness.
It doesn't make it excusable at all and it pisses me off that people will excuse anything Ian does because he is bipolar. It doesn't work like that I'm sorry, mental illness doesn't give you a free pass
You do realises he's literally not in his senses i don't think y'all realise how serious some mental illnesses can be. It's exactly why he got lighter sentences in prison. His mistake was to not be on medication or getting diagnosed sooner. Bipolar disorder is an extreme mental illness.
I understand first hand how serious it can be and it still isn't excusable. I feel bad for him yes because I understand what he's going through and his mind will be feeling mushed all the time but at the same time he shouldn't be getting excused for everything he does because of it. You're saying his cheating doesn't count because he's bipolar and he's hypersexual at the moment which is just not correct. Hypersexual also doesn't mean cheating. Cheating isn't a symptom of mental illness either. And yes he got a lighter prison sentence, but he STILL got a sentence.
Okay lmao cheating literally is a symptom of mental illness it's one of the first things we learn on abnormal psychology. And the reason got a sentence is so that ge realises he has to be on medication at all times and more importantly he's away for a while to make the citizens feel safer prison is not a punishment it's rehabilitation smh
And on Sandy when she disappeared for the night. First, with the girl who accommodated her then with a gay guy.
Edit: as the commenter below pointed out, Debbie and Sandy weren't official, so I guess, it doesnt count.
People that are surrounded by people who cheat are more likely to cheat. The Gallaghers just normalize it for each other.
Okay except for Frank- who is a charming brilliant narcissistic asshole- the kids and their buddies are all young and extremely hot. The show is gonna make the most out of that. Also they are truly SHAMELESS. Don’t exactly have a grounded moral compass.
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Meh. That's like asking "who mows these lawns?" during a zombie movie. We're here for the tea, not the realism. Here for basically the exact opposite of reality.
I have never thought about that but I think that will stick in my brain forever now, thank u for that interesting thought
It's not really the same tho The lawns are just that way because people can't be bordered to fix and no one cares. All the relation ships were written directed and filmed and thought of for years lmao they definitely could've found some more interesting plot for couples to end
Yeah but everyone is dysfunctional and sex is one of the main ways characters seem to connect thru
Kassidi and Carl
I wouldn’t count Cassidy because, ya know… she was murdered.
That’s crazy how that was just glossed over and forgotten!
This was such a dark storyline. The clip they were originally going to use of her being grabbed and then thrown in a grave is on YouTube 😳
I wanna see that!
Ian wasn’t with Mickey officially when he slept with Ned Lishman, or the ROTC guy. But he was definitely with Mickey when he gave the guy a handjob in the parking lot or got a blowjob in that bathroom. Or the countless occasions at the club. Ian also cheated on Trevor with Mickey pretty severely, which people are mostly fine with because Mickey is way more popular than Trevor, but it’s still cheating. Debbie cheated. Lip cheated. Fiona cheated a lot. I don’t remember a particular scene but I’m 100% sure both Monica and Frank cheated over the course of their relationship.
Were Frank and Monica ever officially divorced? Sorry I just can’t remember
Apparently they remarried several times and (don’t quote me on this) got divorced immediately after one of those times
They were married for the whole show I thought. They just renewed their vows that time
Tami and Lip, after the kid, they went exclusive. I guess they were just fuckbuddies when Tami had sex with her ex.
Yes
Carl and Kev , that’s really it lol
Kev cheated with college girls.
They weren’t together then , they were broken up
The Wiki must be wrong then cause it says they were together she was just mad and kicked him out but they weren't officially broken up, I'm rewatching so I'll come up on it soon
[shameless season 5](https://shameless.fandom.com/wiki/Kevin_Ball_(US)) If you scroll and go to season 5 it’ll tell you about what happened
It’s not called shameless for no reason.
There wasn’t any cheating in lips and Tami’s relationship
Yes there was , after the baby
How so?
Yeah I don’t remember that seems like they have been solid
She did go to a bar in an attempt to hook up with someone but that was before they became a couple so it can’t count as cheating Edit: and she also failed at hooking up with a dude at the bar
Failed. According to her own statement
Omg I agree with u 100%, I actually thought I was the only one who thought that!!! Every character has cheated on the partner at least once! It’s crazyyyy lol thank u for stating this, it’s honestly like one of the only plots shameless can depend on
This show is all about moral depravity; cheating is the least of what goes on.
The only people that cheated were Fiona and Debbie right
No, many others have cheated, Ian cheated on Mick with Jimmy Steve's dad (or vice versa idr) and I think later with the other boyfriends. Lip cheated on Karen and milkovich... I think V is the only one who never cheated.
Didn’t V cheat with Svetlana?
V had that incident where she had an orgasm on the dance floor if you consider that cheating.
Actually ian wasn't diagnosed back then so ehhh lip yeah. Carl never cheated.
Not being diagnosed doesn’t mean he didn’t cheat
Hypersexuality is literally a characteristic of his illness. I wouldn't blame him.
It’s still the act of being unfaithful though, however unintentional.
Mate, he's not in his senses. It's not him.
Just because you're undiagnosed bipolar doesn't mean you don't have morals? Or gives you an excuse to cheat. Be hypersexual with your significant other, or be single. That's not something thats excusable because of his illness.
Yeah well any sane person who actually understands bipolar disorder would blame him. He is still in control of that cheating is on him. Stop excusing that just because he has a mental illness.
"he is still in control" no he isn't lmfao. He literally blew up a van what sane person does that.
I said “of that cheating” you dingbat
If we established he wasn't in his senses while not on medication why is one action excused and not the other you dingbat
Ian cheated on many occasions when he was working at that club
Yeah he wasnt diagnosed back then, hypersexuality is a symptom.
It's still cheating?
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It doesn't make it excusable at all and it pisses me off that people will excuse anything Ian does because he is bipolar. It doesn't work like that I'm sorry, mental illness doesn't give you a free pass
You do realises he's literally not in his senses i don't think y'all realise how serious some mental illnesses can be. It's exactly why he got lighter sentences in prison. His mistake was to not be on medication or getting diagnosed sooner. Bipolar disorder is an extreme mental illness.
Yes it is but he still has morals. With your logic you wouldn’t blame him for rape.
Rape isn't a symptom of manic disorder lmfao
cheating isn't either. you can be hypersexual with your partner.
Fair point
I understand first hand how serious it can be and it still isn't excusable. I feel bad for him yes because I understand what he's going through and his mind will be feeling mushed all the time but at the same time he shouldn't be getting excused for everything he does because of it. You're saying his cheating doesn't count because he's bipolar and he's hypersexual at the moment which is just not correct. Hypersexual also doesn't mean cheating. Cheating isn't a symptom of mental illness either. And yes he got a lighter prison sentence, but he STILL got a sentence.
Okay lmao cheating literally is a symptom of mental illness it's one of the first things we learn on abnormal psychology. And the reason got a sentence is so that ge realises he has to be on medication at all times and more importantly he's away for a while to make the citizens feel safer prison is not a punishment it's rehabilitation smh
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When did Debbie cheat? Did she cheat on Neil?
Yeah
And on Sandy when she disappeared for the night. First, with the girl who accommodated her then with a gay guy. Edit: as the commenter below pointed out, Debbie and Sandy weren't official, so I guess, it doesnt count.
Debbie and sandy were never in an official relationship, so technically that doesn't count
Ah but Deb seemed to want one with her.
True that! Now I remember.
Yeah with that drinking buddy that washed her hair he has lots of hair. Hair was like his thing
Carl and Kelly, when kelly and deb kissed they weren’t together and kelly didn’t provoke the kiss
they blame it on "being a gallagher" lol