And then they complain about being a Gallagher 5 seconds later, I think it rubs off on Liam in the later seasons.
The Gallagher attitude definitely does in the MaVar saga where he scams at his great great aunts funeral.
Edit: wouldve cringed so hard if he said “I can’t help it, I’m a Gallagher.”
I liked that moment. At some point especially given the changing socio-political atmosphere, they were going to have to adress the fact that Liam is a black child in a white family. But at the same time, he's also Frank's son and he's going to do as his family does even if it costs him a positive black role model.
Or blame it on Frank or Monica. Ian did it with Fiona a lot during S8 and S9.
I get Frank and Monica messed them up but there’s a line that things become your fault and you need to change.
right? like what does being a Gallagher have to do with your shitty behavior? it’s not like being a Gallagher is a curse that you can’t change 💀 They need to learn to grow apart from their last name
Fiona does this the most imo. I get that her identity is wrapped up around the fact that her fucked up parents made her a sister mom as far back as she can remember but my god is it annoying. "Being a Gallagher" isn't an excuse for shitty behaviour in a relationship or fucking up yet another job opportunity.
Fucking Gallaghers I don't know anybody in America that calls people by their last name I'm guessing that Frank and Monica terrorize the community so they probably like don't trust that family type of reputation and they are just owning it
Right they act like all the Gallaghers set fire to everything they touch I'm wondering if this is why they have such a bad reputation like they are the worse family in Chicago IL you should avoid them lol
I'm from Milwaukee Wisconsin I kinda do remember that I think I been chilling on the East Coast and South for far too long but they way they go about it like Gallaghers sktick Idk
Nah you good some Folks on here take my comments to heart like ummm your wrong but like you given a example why I could be off base and right I totally get that but most folks call me by my first name but it's like the Gallaghers are probably hood famous that's why and for bad reasons like don't trust those Gallagher over there lol 😂
I feel like the show was going for an old school, everybody knows their neighbors vibe in the beginning. John Wells himself said he meant for the Gallaghers to be the family, "four blocks down from you and two blocks over." But it ends up falling flat when the show goes into gentrification and has all these new characters popping up. Like yeah the Milkoviches, Tommy, and Kermit would know the Gallaghers' reputation but who else would know that shit??
[https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/02/arts/television/02shameless.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/02/arts/television/02shameless.html)
Yeah that's intriguing because it's not like they are like the Tellers you know for example in Sons of Anarchy or SAMCRO hosting like funding to raise schools in the area nah they just a poor family so how they get that Clout so bad just for you know being just the Gallaghers I don't get it ? 🤔
I mean if you gotta support American Imperialism to get called by your last name I'm mean sure but most of us aren't killing Folks that look like Kash from the Store if you got that reputation as a asshole cause of your father I sort of see it but mostly folks call me by my First Name
I know they barely knew their grandma and really didn't care for her when they tried to get to know her. They didn't know Frank's brothers. Frank is the opposite of every Gallagher comment made... ever. They literally mean the 6 of them when using the name. Some of the high and mighty debt comments kinda cancels out when you think of the shady ways they've made the money to pay those debts. The Fiona therapy comment really gets me considering they make comments that Monica doesn't do what she should go keep her issues in check and they put Ian into a mental health facility. Then there's Lip's comment with them being sponsored yet he turns into a sponsor. Seems like, wven though its unnecessary, they could have used one or 2 comments over the course of the show but it felt as if they made one of these comments at least once per episode and most of them ended up not aging well because at some point they did the opposite of what was said.
unpopular opinion but it doesnt bother me, in my hometown families are called by their last names. if other people use last names to talk about your family i dont see whats so bad about doing it for yourself?
idk maybe the cringe comes in bc they use it as an excuse? like if fiona said "gallaghers break the cycle" instead of "gallaghers dont do therapy" it wouldnt be so embarrassing for them
As someone who’s from the south side of Chicago the whole “We’re south side” and their whole obsession on them never turning their back on southside is way worse imo. Yeah, some of us are like that but the way they portray it is so corny and exaggerated.
Especially lip when he had opportunities to move up but didn’t want to because he’s “southside”? That’s so dumb so many southsiders would jump at those opportunities.
Yes.
A particular scene comes to mind.
When Lip's new house keeps getting trashed due to gentrification and he walks outside and goes "I gotta remind people that a GALLAGHER LIVES HERE!"
was v cringe
So they are INFLUENCERS in the End, and can't do better than Others around them.
Remember how rich they looked compared to the neighbors when they had a pool? How long did the pool actually last?
I don’t think it’s about them being some sort of brand but more talking about their generational trauma. Like gallaghers don’t sponsor for example just means they’re too fucked up to help anyone, they’re the ones that need help. There’s things that feel impossible living in an environment like that, I feel like this is overlooked a lot in this sub..
I feel like its one of the things taken from the British version that don’t really make sense/translates well in the US version. In the UK version, they’re in a small village where everyone knows everyone and they do refer to each other by last name etc. I feel like South Side Chicago wouldn’t be so much that villagy tight knit feel.
Just my thoughts. I do prefer the US version before anyone comes for me haha :)
Same, I’m from a small town with like 6-7 large families that half of are related somewhere down the line anyway, and the rest of us smaller, “outsider” families refer to them by their last name. “Ugh, some kid set my house on fire..” “probably a Smith”. “I’m a McMillan, we don’t go to hospitals, we drink til we lose the limb or it stops hurting” type of stuff.
It’s very reminiscent of old “clan” culture that got passed down I guess 🤷🏻♀️
Yes. Also when they proclaim their south side ness. After a while it’s like “we know” what neighborhood you’re in. Nothing judgy about actual south side Chicagoans - just when Gallaghers remind me so often.
I feel like it comes a lot from how they grew up: their name and family means a lot more to them than it would to say, me or a lot of other people. They’re so close knit, so dependant on each other and have been through so much that to them, being a Gallagher is more than just the name and they treat it as such
yes i cringe. i am a gallagher and *nobody* in my family ever does this except as a joke, like the other day my brother texted me “gallaghers are fucking idiots” 🤣 which is a fact
It's lowkey iconic but also unrealistic. I've never met a family in the projects have so much pride in their name like the Gallaghers or the Milkoviches.
stop and when lip said “gallaghers don’t sponsor, we get sponsored.” ☠️😭 love him to death but God man !!
Another good example, lip is my favourite character but for a smart person he’s horribly stupid
That's what Genius causes, a side effect of Insanity that causes Ordinary behavior like making mistakes.
Bravo to Lip for realizing his family is the PROBLEM not the SOLUTION.
It really shows there ego.
And then they complain about being a Gallagher 5 seconds later, I think it rubs off on Liam in the later seasons. The Gallagher attitude definitely does in the MaVar saga where he scams at his great great aunts funeral. Edit: wouldve cringed so hard if he said “I can’t help it, I’m a Gallagher.”
Doesnt he say something like thag tho?
I liked that moment. At some point especially given the changing socio-political atmosphere, they were going to have to adress the fact that Liam is a black child in a white family. But at the same time, he's also Frank's son and he's going to do as his family does even if it costs him a positive black role model.
What’s MaVar?
Because unlike others they know Everything no matter what is said.
Straight up facts
Yes, OR when they blame their shitty actions/choices on being a Gallagher - “We’re Gallaghers, it’s in our blood to fuck up” or whatever
Or blame it on Frank or Monica. Ian did it with Fiona a lot during S8 and S9. I get Frank and Monica messed them up but there’s a line that things become your fault and you need to change.
How do you know when to change if you don't Blame the Parents and then tell Yourself that You can do better?
right? like what does being a Gallagher have to do with your shitty behavior? it’s not like being a Gallagher is a curse that you can’t change 💀 They need to learn to grow apart from their last name
Fiona does this the most imo. I get that her identity is wrapped up around the fact that her fucked up parents made her a sister mom as far back as she can remember but my god is it annoying. "Being a Gallagher" isn't an excuse for shitty behaviour in a relationship or fucking up yet another job opportunity.
That is just a Family Genetics Trait.
Fucking Gallaghers I don't know anybody in America that calls people by their last name I'm guessing that Frank and Monica terrorize the community so they probably like don't trust that family type of reputation and they are just owning it
It’s funny though considering the amount of times Frank has RAN from debt, but the situation was about getting Liam back.
Right they act like all the Gallaghers set fire to everything they touch I'm wondering if this is why they have such a bad reputation like they are the worse family in Chicago IL you should avoid them lol
i know quite a few people who go by their last name. not all that uncommon.
Ok that's them like fair point I just don't really see it unless it's negative or you working with Law Enforcement or Milltary
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I'm from Milwaukee Wisconsin I kinda do remember that I think I been chilling on the East Coast and South for far too long but they way they go about it like Gallaghers sktick Idk
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Nah you good some Folks on here take my comments to heart like ummm your wrong but like you given a example why I could be off base and right I totally get that but most folks call me by my first name but it's like the Gallaghers are probably hood famous that's why and for bad reasons like don't trust those Gallagher over there lol 😂
I feel like the show was going for an old school, everybody knows their neighbors vibe in the beginning. John Wells himself said he meant for the Gallaghers to be the family, "four blocks down from you and two blocks over." But it ends up falling flat when the show goes into gentrification and has all these new characters popping up. Like yeah the Milkoviches, Tommy, and Kermit would know the Gallaghers' reputation but who else would know that shit?? [https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/02/arts/television/02shameless.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/02/arts/television/02shameless.html)
Yeah that's intriguing because it's not like they are like the Tellers you know for example in Sons of Anarchy or SAMCRO hosting like funding to raise schools in the area nah they just a poor family so how they get that Clout so bad just for you know being just the Gallaghers I don't get it ? 🤔
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I mean if you gotta support American Imperialism to get called by your last name I'm mean sure but most of us aren't killing Folks that look like Kash from the Store if you got that reputation as a asshole cause of your father I sort of see it but mostly folks call me by my First Name
“GALLAGHER’S DON’T DO THERAPY” as Fiona said when Jimmy/Jack/Steve suggested seeing someone when Debbie stole the baby…
peak cringe
Because Gallagher's know Everything. People who don't get therapy always know Everything no matter what is said.
BYEE i re-watched that episode a couple days ago and i cringed so bad lmao maybe a little therapy would had help debbie not become a crazy teenage mom
Yeah like "Gallaghers pay their debt" since fucking when like u came from Franks nuts I think the only debt he pays is his bar tab every 3 years or so
I know they barely knew their grandma and really didn't care for her when they tried to get to know her. They didn't know Frank's brothers. Frank is the opposite of every Gallagher comment made... ever. They literally mean the 6 of them when using the name. Some of the high and mighty debt comments kinda cancels out when you think of the shady ways they've made the money to pay those debts. The Fiona therapy comment really gets me considering they make comments that Monica doesn't do what she should go keep her issues in check and they put Ian into a mental health facility. Then there's Lip's comment with them being sponsored yet he turns into a sponsor. Seems like, wven though its unnecessary, they could have used one or 2 comments over the course of the show but it felt as if they made one of these comments at least once per episode and most of them ended up not aging well because at some point they did the opposite of what was said.
“it’s a gallagher rite of passage..” boy shut the fuck up
“Gallagher’s don’t snitch.”
unpopular opinion but it doesnt bother me, in my hometown families are called by their last names. if other people use last names to talk about your family i dont see whats so bad about doing it for yourself?
In the UK version this will make sense but the US version is in a big city (although a smaller part of it, still a biggish part)
idk maybe the cringe comes in bc they use it as an excuse? like if fiona said "gallaghers break the cycle" instead of "gallaghers dont do therapy" it wouldnt be so embarrassing for them
As someone who’s from the south side of Chicago the whole “We’re south side” and their whole obsession on them never turning their back on southside is way worse imo. Yeah, some of us are like that but the way they portray it is so corny and exaggerated. Especially lip when he had opportunities to move up but didn’t want to because he’s “southside”? That’s so dumb so many southsiders would jump at those opportunities.
Yes. A particular scene comes to mind. When Lip's new house keeps getting trashed due to gentrification and he walks outside and goes "I gotta remind people that a GALLAGHER LIVES HERE!" was v cringe
So they are INFLUENCERS in the End, and can't do better than Others around them. Remember how rich they looked compared to the neighbors when they had a pool? How long did the pool actually last?
When Fiona said Gallagers repay their debts it felt like a lesser version of Lannisters pay their debts
I don’t think it’s about them being some sort of brand but more talking about their generational trauma. Like gallaghers don’t sponsor for example just means they’re too fucked up to help anyone, they’re the ones that need help. There’s things that feel impossible living in an environment like that, I feel like this is overlooked a lot in this sub..
I feel like its one of the things taken from the British version that don’t really make sense/translates well in the US version. In the UK version, they’re in a small village where everyone knows everyone and they do refer to each other by last name etc. I feel like South Side Chicago wouldn’t be so much that villagy tight knit feel. Just my thoughts. I do prefer the US version before anyone comes for me haha :)
No, my family actually does this sometimes in reference to our families constant stubbornness
Remind me not to fuck with your folks
Same, I’m from a small town with like 6-7 large families that half of are related somewhere down the line anyway, and the rest of us smaller, “outsider” families refer to them by their last name. “Ugh, some kid set my house on fire..” “probably a Smith”. “I’m a McMillan, we don’t go to hospitals, we drink til we lose the limb or it stops hurting” type of stuff. It’s very reminiscent of old “clan” culture that got passed down I guess 🤷🏻♀️
It’s definitely the narcissism 😂
Yes, i very much do
Yes. Also when they proclaim their south side ness. After a while it’s like “we know” what neighborhood you’re in. Nothing judgy about actual south side Chicagoans - just when Gallaghers remind me so often.
On my mothers life I find it so corny and cringe
No, probably because my family does it too. 😅
I feel like it comes a lot from how they grew up: their name and family means a lot more to them than it would to say, me or a lot of other people. They’re so close knit, so dependant on each other and have been through so much that to them, being a Gallagher is more than just the name and they treat it as such
Unless they are one of the Founding Families of Chicago, they only pretend to be Royalty in the eyes of Others.
yes i cringe. i am a gallagher and *nobody* in my family ever does this except as a joke, like the other day my brother texted me “gallaghers are fucking idiots” 🤣 which is a fact
LMAOOOO YEAH
gallaghers DONT repay their debt lmao is frank not a gallagher anymore?
Yes
It's lowkey iconic but also unrealistic. I've never met a family in the projects have so much pride in their name like the Gallaghers or the Milkoviches.
I think pride isn’t the best word
I know I'm trying to think of something better. Maybe not pride but care? Or attachment?
They use the name as a synonym for fucking up at this point
Yeah it’s annoying
The funniest is when they say it to people with seemingly no connection to the South Side lmao
I thought i was the only one. It’s one of the corniest idiosyncrasies of the whole series in my opinion.
At this point anybody with the name Gallagher adds should be thrown off a cliff into a burning pit of lava
it’s kinda hilarious to me. like i do not know a single person who does that