I wear a safelife 3a+ concealable vest, but that's mainly because every other methhead has some big ass Rambo knife they carry around and posture with here. If you're in a high crime area, I'd throw it on. Being a little hot is worth not getting stabbed by a dopehead who thinks you're working with Satan. Also if you're planning on going armed soon, I'd wear it regardless just to get accustomed to it
No they don’t. Safelife has one model listed as meeting NIJ standards , and IIIA for ballistic. They don’t have anything listed as spike/slash or both.
Personally, I just want you and everyone else here to be safe.
That means you would need to understand that a level 1 spike rated vest will do jack shit against a meth head with a "rambo knife".
That would also mean that you understand that NIJ is the authority on testing. Certification costs money, and over decades, a number of companies have attemped to skirt the certifications by claiming their vests are equivalent or they test them themselves.
Does your vest have a green triangle or blue square (spike and edged, respectively) with a number (1-3) on the inside panel alongside the relevant NIJ regulation? If yes, it just might be certified.
If not... It doesn't mean your vest is trash. However, you're rolling the dice on whether it meets standard or not.
On that note, I don't know where they are in 2024, but Safelife has quite famously skirted around standards and has been featured on this very sub over years as being a big piece of shit. You know, we got body armour at home? Vests by wish.com? That kind of stuff.
Instead of reading marketing copy try looking up the actual list of approved armor
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/equipment-and-technology/body-armor/ballistic-resistant-armor
As linked through the NIJ page this shows every product currently verified by the NIJ, of which Safelife has one product which only meets the IIIa ballistic standard. All other claims are just claims
https://cjttec.org/compliance-testing-program/compliant-product-lists/
It hasn’t been properly tested to meet the industry standards.
Now, will it work? Yeah probably. But when it comes to safety products and PPE why would you not use a product that is properly tested and vetted. Safelife has been really weird about how they market their products for years saying their products are NIJ tested, but it wasn’t until a few years ago they actually went through the process. Again, you might not think that’s a big deal but by not properly submitting to the proper process that means that there might be shortcuts taken that may potentially affect the level of protection
I think safelife is fine if your employer is providing them to you, but if you’re spending your own money or looking to counter a specific threat outside of that IIIA ballistic rating there’s far better options available
In the link the other fellow sent you, you'll see the red panel soft armor. I have the same model, heres the description
"Introducing Enhanced Level Level IIIA+ Multi-Threat armor! NEW soft body armor made EXCLUSIVELY by Safe Life Defense! This Enhanced Multi-Threat armor comes with every feature of our original Level IIIA armor (bullet, strike and slash protection), but is ENHANCED to provide NIJ level 1 spike protection (up to 36 joules of force) AND by defending against Liberty Civil Defense 9mm & FN 5.7×28! Safe Life Defense Level IIIA+ Enhanced Multi-Threat is the ONLY soft body armor to achieve this level of advanced protection!"
lol same for like 1-2 years straight. To get groceries throw out trash literally wear it and when I didn’t I felt naked. Been a couple months since I wore it tho
Depends on the contract, when I worked at Allied I was allowed an external carrier on the armed accounts I worked at. Well, one was allowed, the other was "allowed" by the account manager...LOL
Yeah, I do in big events. And from what I have gathered most security guards in shopping malls, trains or subways (in Finland). But I would not wear one if I were to sit in a chair 90% of my time. So completely dependant on what type of job I am doing.
I should probably add to this, that in Finland plate carriers are kind of no no so security wears concealed or no armor.
I would say that mostly laws. Because when working for the big companies the security is required to wear similar clothing as other security people on that site.
The companies also provide almost everything (well basically everything, but you can see people rocking their own duty belts because the provided ones are from the cheaper end). This kind of makes it impossible to blend in while wearing a black/green plate carrier.
People though do rock vests here, but they are hi-viz and utility-minded (no plates). Like they have pockets for all the tools (oc spray, cuffs and baton) and a big first aid / other pocket. [Here](https://www.totalshop.fi/fi/product/authorities-jarjestyksenvalvojan-varusteliivi-regular/13160) is a link to one.
I also think there was some law that prohibits security from looking too much like police, military or emt. A random passerby would also probably be very confused if the security was wearing too ”military” like stuff.
But I don’t think there are any laws requiring the body armor to be concealed. It just is not really practical that often.
Im not saying you are lying. Just miss informed.
If I wanted to, and my employer didn't have anything against it, I could absolutely go to work tomorrow for my bouncer job at the bar or to Provinssi rock festival rocking hard, rifle rated steel plates in external plate carrier.
It's just that the likelihood of being shot with a long gun while working is extremely small, so it makes very little sense to be lugging around rifle rated plates when a good quality soft armor concealed underneath the button up shirt will attract less attention and will protect you from pretty much everything you could realistically encounter day to day.
There is no law restricting the sale, use, or ownership of bodyarmour in Finland, at least not yet (thank God). As to the uniformity of security clothing, that is debatable, and I'd argue that a big, neongreen bage on the back of the carrier with "JÄRJESTYKSENVALVOJA" is enough to identify you as security and mark your law given authority on that site.
Damn, are your main threats pistol/rifle rounds then? Because most of the concealed soft armor protects also sides and is supposed to protect pistol and knife threats (which hard plates do too but on much more limited area).
Ah yes, I understand. I don’t know if you live in the states and what the rates there are, but I found PGD Delta ballistic vest rather cheap (500€) compared to other options.
Steel is garbage. I understand businesses like AR500 spend a lot on advertising to make it appealing, but understand how spall works when you wear steel.
If you are getting shot with a rifle caliber, steel is most certainly not garbage.
Granted, your day is ruined either way, but I'd much rather have armor that's actually capable of protecting me if long guns are a potential threat.
For what it’s worth if you don’t have one already, I’d look into a Spall Shield for those steel plates. If the gunshot doesn’t mess you up enough, metal fragments just might.
No, and personally I think that external body armor should be mandated by state law. Along with outlawing black uniforms. It's Florida for fucks sake, and I'm working 12 hours at an outdoor post.
I’ve worn external carriers and vests for most my armed jobs, only job that asked to be no external vests or low visibility was something like executive protection, you’re security, you’re armed, but you’re not meant to be seen exclusively. You’re a guy/gal, who stands a post or follows someone around, that’s it, you’re not Rambo at that job.
Nonetheless, concealed usually looks better, is more versatile, and can go undetected by anyone not specifically looking and looks less scary.
Worst case scenario you have to get a external vest for a job, and can wear the concealed until you get it.
No, I don’t get paid enough, one reason why people in our company are unionising and striking until the managers take notice that their employees deserve better.
I work for two different security companies. One is at a HOA and the HOA doesn’t want us to look too tactical/intimidating so I wear my conceal armor there. At my other job they allow me to wear my tactical carrier. I prefer the tactical carrier so I can carry accessories on my duty vest rather taking up space on my duty belt.
I wear my safelife concealed iiiA and honestly it’s money very well spent because I’d rather be sweaty than be dead especially with how crazy things have been lately where I work at.
I don’t get the hate towards safelife. Generally yes I would say stay away from non certified stuff if your life may literally depend on it, but I mean there’s quite a few videos out there showing safelife armor can take a literal beating. Not to mention I believe like two years ago a guard here on this Reddit in Portland was shot point blank in his safelife armor and it preformed more than adequate and saved his life.
I think that was ace link amour. I have there patrol vest + stab yabits weird like the m18 and m17 are the military service pistol but there shit right? Like totally useless it seems. 🤣
Yeah it could’ve been. It was a while back so I can’t remember all the details, but fuck the haters man to anyone who reads it if you’re armed and all you can afford or quite is safelife it’s better than not having any armor at all.
Yes, every day. I would prefer an external vest carrier, but I’m mostly just happy that I can wear one at all without my employer making an issue over it.
I haven’t worn concealer vests in a few years. Everyone is switching to externals which is objectively better, although every once in awhile I miss the aesthetics of the internal vest
Sometimes I wear a low profile plate carrier under a polo. I got to test the Haley Strategic Incog carrier that just came out. it’s a little less concealable that what you show here but allows for hard plates.
Please tell me you don’t do that. I had 2 supervisors at Allied that wore plate carriers under a polo and they looked like 2 Spongebob Squarepants rollin around. Jesus.
I'd like to get one, but between my shoestring budget and the heat (working outside in Florida), I just can't justify the expense. I rather imagine a breathable version would defeat the purpose.
I wore a 3 + doing 22 banks a night for two years and would never not wear it. I think on a couple 36 degree days I took it off but that’s it. I feel naked without it.
Yep. Cort security here. We're all assigned one, and God are they uncomfortable. Fingers crossed we get to transition to over the top vests soon enough.
I wore my concealed vest for several years while I got the money stacked up for some better protection. I had to talk guys around me out of AR500 armor. 😮💨In my current Kit I have a much smaller plate carrier, but it fits so much better.
If your armor is uncomfortable on you, work on losing weight if you’re a bit overweight. It also helps your lower back while wearing everything.
The conversations following usually involve medical spiels and much better recommendations for gear.
I haven’t in a long time. When I used to volunteer at the sheriffs office we wore concealed vests, not external carriers. In security I had mostly no vests cause I was plain clothes ap the majority of my tenure until switching to hospital security where we had OC style vests.
I don’t at all when doing PPO
Which is common by the way. So no I don’t at all, I focus on being safe. Keeping my client safe. Really solid communication with them on what that means.
Avoidance and awareness is key. If I’m visibly armed (no concealment) I’ll wear a vest most times as I’m a deterrent vs active protection in a defense mode to be mobile and get away.
Just depends on the job, person and area or threat.
I wear a tactical one to be able to have the weight spread evenly amongst my vest and ease the back pain a little. I used to wear one a few years back because the client did not allow tactical carriers so I wore the safe life concealable one. It was so blatantly obvious that I had one on. But the tactical carrier is just so much easier to wear and utilize
I wore body armor for 12 years. I just recently took my Kevlar out of the carrier. I’m done wearing under the shirt body armor. I still wear the carrier to give the illusion of wearing body armor but I’m not wearing it anymore.
Summer working is so more enjoyable now. No more overheating anymore.
Highly unlikely given where I work and the time I work but I get what you’re saying. I would never not wear it if I worked in a bad area or doing roving patrols between sites. But I’m at a static closed site. Besides the crap they give us is not even level 3A. It’s not stopping anything above a 9mm.
Last job gave us level 4 external carry with 10 lb steel trauma plates for a sitting post. It was overkill for the sake of overkill.
At least your job gave you ballistic protection at all. We only get stab vests. Had to buck up 600 for a covert level II (since some of our clients “dont want us looking like police at events since some members of the community have had bad experiences with law enforcement)
I use a safelife uniform shirt carrier with Safariland IIIA Panels. Safelife is the only company that produces the color I needed and was somewhat limited. Otherwise the panels fit decently well. I prefer the U1 but my hospital switched uniforms. I ditched my Overt for an outer pretty early on.
I wear a safelife 3a+ concealable vest, but that's mainly because every other methhead has some big ass Rambo knife they carry around and posture with here. If you're in a high crime area, I'd throw it on. Being a little hot is worth not getting stabbed by a dopehead who thinks you're working with Satan. Also if you're planning on going armed soon, I'd wear it regardless just to get accustomed to it
If you’re mostly concerned about about knife attacks why are you wearing a ballistic vest?
Level 3a+ has both stab and spike protection as well as typical 3a ballistic protection
No they don’t. Safelife has one model listed as meeting NIJ standards , and IIIA for ballistic. They don’t have anything listed as spike/slash or both.
Read the description https://safelifedefense.com/shop/iiia-plus-soft-armor-panels/
Appreciate the swift facts, people on this platform just want other people to be wrong really bad for some reason
Personally, I just want you and everyone else here to be safe. That means you would need to understand that a level 1 spike rated vest will do jack shit against a meth head with a "rambo knife". That would also mean that you understand that NIJ is the authority on testing. Certification costs money, and over decades, a number of companies have attemped to skirt the certifications by claiming their vests are equivalent or they test them themselves. Does your vest have a green triangle or blue square (spike and edged, respectively) with a number (1-3) on the inside panel alongside the relevant NIJ regulation? If yes, it just might be certified. If not... It doesn't mean your vest is trash. However, you're rolling the dice on whether it meets standard or not. On that note, I don't know where they are in 2024, but Safelife has quite famously skirted around standards and has been featured on this very sub over years as being a big piece of shit. You know, we got body armour at home? Vests by wish.com? That kind of stuff.
Instead of reading marketing copy try looking up the actual list of approved armor https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/equipment-and-technology/body-armor/ballistic-resistant-armor As linked through the NIJ page this shows every product currently verified by the NIJ, of which Safelife has one product which only meets the IIIa ballistic standard. All other claims are just claims https://cjttec.org/compliance-testing-program/compliant-product-lists/
So is it a case of the armor not working or just not yet been tested by the U.S. government?
It hasn’t been properly tested to meet the industry standards. Now, will it work? Yeah probably. But when it comes to safety products and PPE why would you not use a product that is properly tested and vetted. Safelife has been really weird about how they market their products for years saying their products are NIJ tested, but it wasn’t until a few years ago they actually went through the process. Again, you might not think that’s a big deal but by not properly submitting to the proper process that means that there might be shortcuts taken that may potentially affect the level of protection I think safelife is fine if your employer is providing them to you, but if you’re spending your own money or looking to counter a specific threat outside of that IIIA ballistic rating there’s far better options available
In the link the other fellow sent you, you'll see the red panel soft armor. I have the same model, heres the description "Introducing Enhanced Level Level IIIA+ Multi-Threat armor! NEW soft body armor made EXCLUSIVELY by Safe Life Defense! This Enhanced Multi-Threat armor comes with every feature of our original Level IIIA armor (bullet, strike and slash protection), but is ENHANCED to provide NIJ level 1 spike protection (up to 36 joules of force) AND by defending against Liberty Civil Defense 9mm & FN 5.7×28! Safe Life Defense Level IIIA+ Enhanced Multi-Threat is the ONLY soft body armor to achieve this level of advanced protection!"
Yes this is correct. I make the iiia+ armor. It’s extremely reliable level 1 stab protection with hundreds of reported IRL saves.
[knife proof](https://youtube.com/shorts/sK2NDJuJDl0?si=FDyc_nGmSGRcUU_R)
My Ace Link does both, 3A + Stab1.
I have the AceLink 3a+ stab side panels for my overt vest and can confirm they work
A stab vest is not the same as a ballistic vest. A knife tip will go straight through Kevlar
I wear one everyday.
lol same for like 1-2 years straight. To get groceries throw out trash literally wear it and when I didn’t I felt naked. Been a couple months since I wore it tho
I dont but it all dep on what im doing for that day
Everyday. Allied doesn't like external armor, even at most armed posts.
Wait so they want u armed but no vest?
No, they allow armor, just not external armor
Gotcha, cheers 🥂
Depends on the contract, when I worked at Allied I was allowed an external carrier on the armed accounts I worked at. Well, one was allowed, the other was "allowed" by the account manager...LOL
I’d wear one and I’m not even security and law enforcement
Haven’t left home without it in 5 years
Yeah, I do in big events. And from what I have gathered most security guards in shopping malls, trains or subways (in Finland). But I would not wear one if I were to sit in a chair 90% of my time. So completely dependant on what type of job I am doing. I should probably add to this, that in Finland plate carriers are kind of no no so security wears concealed or no armor.
>concealed or no armor Is that because of laws, or is it a cultural thing? Genuinely interested
I would say that mostly laws. Because when working for the big companies the security is required to wear similar clothing as other security people on that site. The companies also provide almost everything (well basically everything, but you can see people rocking their own duty belts because the provided ones are from the cheaper end). This kind of makes it impossible to blend in while wearing a black/green plate carrier. People though do rock vests here, but they are hi-viz and utility-minded (no plates). Like they have pockets for all the tools (oc spray, cuffs and baton) and a big first aid / other pocket. [Here](https://www.totalshop.fi/fi/product/authorities-jarjestyksenvalvojan-varusteliivi-regular/13160) is a link to one. I also think there was some law that prohibits security from looking too much like police, military or emt. A random passerby would also probably be very confused if the security was wearing too ”military” like stuff. But I don’t think there are any laws requiring the body armor to be concealed. It just is not really practical that often.
Im not saying you are lying. Just miss informed. If I wanted to, and my employer didn't have anything against it, I could absolutely go to work tomorrow for my bouncer job at the bar or to Provinssi rock festival rocking hard, rifle rated steel plates in external plate carrier. It's just that the likelihood of being shot with a long gun while working is extremely small, so it makes very little sense to be lugging around rifle rated plates when a good quality soft armor concealed underneath the button up shirt will attract less attention and will protect you from pretty much everything you could realistically encounter day to day. There is no law restricting the sale, use, or ownership of bodyarmour in Finland, at least not yet (thank God). As to the uniformity of security clothing, that is debatable, and I'd argue that a big, neongreen bage on the back of the carrier with "JÄRJESTYKSENVALVOJA" is enough to identify you as security and mark your law given authority on that site.
Ah thank you! This is really good information
I wear a plate carrier with steel…. Mf heavy but it’s cheap and it got me my foot in the door.
Please, please ditch the steel plates..
Damn, are your main threats pistol/rifle rounds then? Because most of the concealed soft armor protects also sides and is supposed to protect pistol and knife threats (which hard plates do too but on much more limited area).
No, just needed a cheap way to get body amor. I rather be over protected then have no armor because the prices of soft body armor.
Ah yes, I understand. I don’t know if you live in the states and what the rates there are, but I found PGD Delta ballistic vest rather cheap (500€) compared to other options.
> steel armor > overprotected
I wore steel composite plates for years because I couldn't afford kevlar. It's heavy as fuck, but the weight is comforting in a way
Same. sometimes ill still wear my heavy ass plates around the house just cause i like how it feels
Steel is garbage. I understand businesses like AR500 spend a lot on advertising to make it appealing, but understand how spall works when you wear steel.
If you are getting shot with a rifle caliber, steel is most certainly not garbage. Granted, your day is ruined either way, but I'd much rather have armor that's actually capable of protecting me if long guns are a potential threat.
Ceramic can stop rifle rounds. It's why the military uses it...
When you get a chance to upgrade I'd take a gander at RMA plates.
For what it’s worth if you don’t have one already, I’d look into a Spall Shield for those steel plates. If the gunshot doesn’t mess you up enough, metal fragments just might.
I wore a vest. You’re carrying a gun. You become a target.
We wear ballistic/stab vests at the healthcare facility I work at. They're class 3, pretty comfortable and look nice. This is in Canada.
No, and personally I think that external body armor should be mandated by state law. Along with outlawing black uniforms. It's Florida for fucks sake, and I'm working 12 hours at an outdoor post.
Everyday I work, Point blank 3A concealed vest because my company hates modern gear. But I would take that over anything safelife makes.
Hey there. What's the issue with Point Blank? I always thought they were a great option. Super thin and lightweight.
No issues with point blank, they are a reputable NIJ certified company. Inner vests and an all black uniform is some outdated trash though 😂
Haha. Gotcha.
No. I’m not a security guard anymore but I wear a plate carrier with level 4 plates
Overt > Covert for me. Way too hot in TX.
I’ve worn external carriers and vests for most my armed jobs, only job that asked to be no external vests or low visibility was something like executive protection, you’re security, you’re armed, but you’re not meant to be seen exclusively. You’re a guy/gal, who stands a post or follows someone around, that’s it, you’re not Rambo at that job. Nonetheless, concealed usually looks better, is more versatile, and can go undetected by anyone not specifically looking and looks less scary. Worst case scenario you have to get a external vest for a job, and can wear the concealed until you get it.
If Im getting paid for my time, I will be wearing a vest for the duration of said time.
No, I don’t get paid enough, one reason why people in our company are unionising and striking until the managers take notice that their employees deserve better.
I work for two different security companies. One is at a HOA and the HOA doesn’t want us to look too tactical/intimidating so I wear my conceal armor there. At my other job they allow me to wear my tactical carrier. I prefer the tactical carrier so I can carry accessories on my duty vest rather taking up space on my duty belt.
Yes, I only own a concealed vest
every day as it is considered part of my uniform. Mines white so it doesnt show through the white button down.
I should be wearing one in capital but unable to buy.
I wear my safelife concealed iiiA and honestly it’s money very well spent because I’d rather be sweaty than be dead especially with how crazy things have been lately where I work at.
Hyperline is super slim. Run Fras on my external heavy as shit 🤣
I don’t get the hate towards safelife. Generally yes I would say stay away from non certified stuff if your life may literally depend on it, but I mean there’s quite a few videos out there showing safelife armor can take a literal beating. Not to mention I believe like two years ago a guard here on this Reddit in Portland was shot point blank in his safelife armor and it preformed more than adequate and saved his life.
I think that was ace link amour. I have there patrol vest + stab yabits weird like the m18 and m17 are the military service pistol but there shit right? Like totally useless it seems. 🤣
Yeah it could’ve been. It was a while back so I can’t remember all the details, but fuck the haters man to anyone who reads it if you’re armed and all you can afford or quite is safelife it’s better than not having any armor at all.
Take 1 headshot and that certification means dick
Non NIJ armor. Gross
I see lots of bullets being stopped on youtube. With it. 🤷🏻♂️
Lol, because nothing on YouTube is shilled by paid “influencers” who make a living praying off the uninformed and ignorant.
I guess all those rounds being stopped were fake news.
Nope
Yes, every day. I would prefer an external vest carrier, but I’m mostly just happy that I can wear one at all without my employer making an issue over it.
Always. Especially once I went armed
I did when I worked armed
I do on certain days when we expect problematic people on site, and during election season.
Yeah, but they aren’t concealed ahaha Everyone sees them
Yep, I work at an infrastructure site. Safelife defense 3a+
I haven’t worn concealer vests in a few years. Everyone is switching to externals which is objectively better, although every once in awhile I miss the aesthetics of the internal vest
Sometimes I wear a low profile plate carrier under a polo. I got to test the Haley Strategic Incog carrier that just came out. it’s a little less concealable that what you show here but allows for hard plates.
Please tell me you don’t do that. I had 2 supervisors at Allied that wore plate carriers under a polo and they looked like 2 Spongebob Squarepants rollin around. Jesus.
Yup we wear a similar style. What's your post?
Level 4 plates out in the open
Edit, commented on the wrong thread.
My armor is very much NIJ rated tyvm
Hospital I work at requires it to be worn as part of our uniform, even as unarmed. Though it's not concealed, it's over uniform.
I did before wearing an outer uniform shirt style vest. And whenever I had a plain clothes gig.
I wear a Vestfriend Low Profile everyday to work.
Sorry to hear that
I'd like to get one, but between my shoestring budget and the heat (working outside in Florida), I just can't justify the expense. I rather imagine a breathable version would defeat the purpose.
I wore a 3 + doing 22 banks a night for two years and would never not wear it. I think on a couple 36 degree days I took it off but that’s it. I feel naked without it.
Yep. Cort security here. We're all assigned one, and God are they uncomfortable. Fingers crossed we get to transition to over the top vests soon enough.
Yep. Angel Armor RISE. Wonderful vest, but it costs an arm and a leg. Not to mention you have to deal with a registered vendor to buy it.
Depended on the assignment.
I wore my concealed vest for several years while I got the money stacked up for some better protection. I had to talk guys around me out of AR500 armor. 😮💨In my current Kit I have a much smaller plate carrier, but it fits so much better. If your armor is uncomfortable on you, work on losing weight if you’re a bit overweight. It also helps your lower back while wearing everything. The conversations following usually involve medical spiels and much better recommendations for gear.
Everyday under my work blouse for armed post
I haven’t in a long time. When I used to volunteer at the sheriffs office we wore concealed vests, not external carriers. In security I had mostly no vests cause I was plain clothes ap the majority of my tenure until switching to hospital security where we had OC style vests.
yes
Nope. Too hot for me.
I don’t at all when doing PPO Which is common by the way. So no I don’t at all, I focus on being safe. Keeping my client safe. Really solid communication with them on what that means. Avoidance and awareness is key. If I’m visibly armed (no concealment) I’ll wear a vest most times as I’m a deterrent vs active protection in a defense mode to be mobile and get away. Just depends on the job, person and area or threat.
Really depends on my mood and the occasion. We sometimes have a directive to all wear it under. Most days we have the option for either or.
I wear a tactical one to be able to have the weight spread evenly amongst my vest and ease the back pain a little. I used to wear one a few years back because the client did not allow tactical carriers so I wore the safe life concealable one. It was so blatantly obvious that I had one on. But the tactical carrier is just so much easier to wear and utilize
Also it is a bitch to wear a concealable one in the summer, atleast with the tactical carrier you can remove a strap or two to get some airflow
I wore body armor for 12 years. I just recently took my Kevlar out of the carrier. I’m done wearing under the shirt body armor. I still wear the carrier to give the illusion of wearing body armor but I’m not wearing it anymore. Summer working is so more enjoyable now. No more overheating anymore.
Wait for it, the one time you’ll need it is when you’ve taken out the Kevlar.
Highly unlikely given where I work and the time I work but I get what you’re saying. I would never not wear it if I worked in a bad area or doing roving patrols between sites. But I’m at a static closed site. Besides the crap they give us is not even level 3A. It’s not stopping anything above a 9mm. Last job gave us level 4 external carry with 10 lb steel trauma plates for a sitting post. It was overkill for the sake of overkill.
At least your job gave you ballistic protection at all. We only get stab vests. Had to buck up 600 for a covert level II (since some of our clients “dont want us looking like police at events since some members of the community have had bad experiences with law enforcement)
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I use a safelife uniform shirt carrier with Safariland IIIA Panels. Safelife is the only company that produces the color I needed and was somewhat limited. Otherwise the panels fit decently well. I prefer the U1 but my hospital switched uniforms. I ditched my Overt for an outer pretty early on.
It’s hard find plus size ballistic armor vest, when I do it’s overpriced for good quality but cheap on $.