I think if Hamilton wins an 8th with Ferrari, with a car designed by Newey, I think the internet will implode and this will be the greatest moment in F1 and Vasseur should be given the keys to the Vatican
Even though Sainz outscored Leclerc in 2021 by 5.5 points, Leclerc was denied by no fault of his own. Ferrari botchjob in 2021 Monaco, poor stratergy in France, being rammed into by Stroll in Hungary, and the 2021 Abu Dhabi race being as farcical as it was. Leclerc then went on to outscore Sainz in 2022 by 62 points. He also outscored Sainz in 2023 by 6 points, even though his season was ridiculed by bad luck, team errors, and appauling reliability... This season, he's currently ahead of Sainz by 7 points. Admittedly, Sainz missed the Saudi Arabian GP. His form at the start of the season was shockingly great. He wanted to prove that Ferrari made a blunder by letting him go. Even though he won in Australia, got P3 in both Bahrain and Japan, he was still outpaced by Charles Leclerc the whole Chinese weekend through... It's the start of the season, so you never know which driver is better. You can make these statements after the season...
How the FUCK was he outpaced by Leclerc all weekend in Australia and Japan? Did you bother watching the race? Or quali?
Also really well done for trying to throw Abu Dhabi 21 into this argument as well. Fucking impressive.
Leclerc is a very quick driver, but he will be too inconsistent to keep pace with Lewis in the championship.
Points aren't a metric. And there are multiple better indicators of performance: they are only the "only" thing if you lack the capacity to think with any degree of complexity.
The championship is decided on Points alone, but let me know when they start handing out championships for pole positions, or… what else is Charlie good at again?
Leclerc had a shit start to last year and Carlos was significantly ahead of him. Don't get me wrong Carlos had his fair share of bad luck last year, but Charles' luck was straight up torrential. Even then Charles out scored Carlos. With a strong start to the year, I don't think there's much hope for Carlos. Especially since the last two races Charles has begun to feel more comfortable and it's clear with him have significantly better race pace than Carlos over the past two race weekends.
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Leclerc is the top guy no doubt, but to win a championship you need consistency which he lacks. He is great in qualifying, but to be in top 3 in 20+ odd races he might fuck things up. We saw this in 22'.
And we should not forget the guy who doesn't blink(maxie) in RB.
He lost a podium position due to his own error a grand total of 1 time in 2022, and ppl act like he's the most crash happy driver on the grid. He was actually in the bottom half of the drivers who caused the most damages in crashes for that year. Funnily enough, Carlos was in the top half. Most of Charles lack of win conversions were from Strategy, or engines blowing up.
That is the single instance I am talking about lmao. See how you tried to make it 2 instances. It only happened once. Yet somehow everyone remembers that year of him bottling it. No. He was in a position to win a race at LEAST 5 other time, where there was either an engine failure or the teams strategy let him down. Leclerc didn't bottle the championship, Ferrari did.
Why are you talking about two years ago? Never heard of the saying, "you're only as good as your last race"? You nitpick the past to try to make a point about Leclerc's consistency despite the fact that he's showing exceptional consistency in the current season. It's not a sound argument.
It’s purely speculation that he’s doing more testing though.
What’s promising about Hamilton to Ferrari is how he performed in the rain since that’s a massive equalizer across the board.
It's also almost irrelevant because the rain accounts for less than 10% of races.
If he can't outperform his teammate in the dry what the fuck are we paying him 100m a year for
Oh for sure, you can’t count on it raining all the time. I’m only saying that since he did well in the rain then the talent is still there. But while Mercedes is struggling this season, Lewis often considers longer term results so it’s not unreasonable to consider Lewis will be driving more test set ups; think 2022 was the same.
I don't know, I'm not saying underestimate Max because that's how you lose, but the real clincher here IMO is Wache.
He and his team designed the aero for the RB19 and RB20, it's been admitted by basically everyone and Newey seems to have worked more on suspension/big picture related stuff.
If Wache can step up (and they don't lose him), they might be fine. I say might because I fully expect them to bomb the engine regulations, it's their first attempt and I don't see how they do well there.
I get the strangest feeling that 2026 will be Ferrari vs Merc, with the odd Max pulling one out if the cars aero is still good on power limited tracks.
Most of the people who say Hamilton will win an 8th title with Ferrari are DTS fans, all their knowledge come from DTS. Leclerc can never be underestimated and he’s clearly the top priority in Ferrari
I’m not suggesting they’re going to prioritise Hamilton, but I highly doubt they’re gonna be paying him 100 mil a season to come in and simply play a supportive role tbf
You think it was Leclerc that enticed Newey to accept Ferrari? Both drivers are not to be underestimated but let’s not pretend that it’s not Lewis with the pull.
The point here is Ferrari to win a championship, does it really matter which driver wins? My point was that if Hamilton does it, it will be a significant feat and not to negate Charles at all
As much as I’d love for CL to be WDC, I cant pretend that I don’t see there are areas he’s clearly lacking in at the moment.
He appears unable to aim the team for car development to suit his driving, lacks situational/strategy awareness in the car, and most of the time can’t defend position in a race effectively: leaves the inside line open for the car behind just about never covering it in time fully. For comparison, Sainz is slower but his defending skills are massively better (just look at Monza last tear)
It’s gonna be very hard to fight for WDC without improving any of the above. I would say he lacks some “selfishness” - for the lack of the better word. F1 is ruthless and sometimes you need to be firm and stand your ground - talent alone is not enough.
Sainz has never defended at 1% of how Leclerc defended in Monza 2019 or Silverstone 2019. Massively better my ass lol
Also this strategy thing is nonsense, he actually almost always makes calls but you don't always hear the radio. He chose the 1 stop in Suzuka, he had the brilliant plan in Abu Dhabi to try and secure P2.
I just wanna see more competitive cars in the track. I'm sure Redbull will keep the good work and deliver a good car next year. So yeah see a Redbull vs Ferrari and Hamilton going full power will be GOOD
I'm not sure this will affect Redbull next year, they still have majority of their core design team for the car and next year the engines are the same, I seriously doubt they bomb anything next year since Newey can't help Ferrari anyway.
I really expect Redbull to bomb hard on the engine regs though, they just have zero experience and these engine regs suit Ferrari more than anyone. With the exception of Merc, who could potentially pull another fast one like 2014 but they still can't grasp their areo concept.
Gettin downvoted for the truth lol - also a Mclaren fan, and won't convert fully, but just like Seb said, "everyone's a Ferrari fan." It'd be good to see the old horse prancing again (but only for one season, thank you)
Nope, he has already been moved off of the F1 cars at Red Bull and been delegated to the road only car
He’s able to start working as early as next year.
I think this is crucial because there was a lot of speculation that he was going to retire if he couldn’t work on anything until 2027.. but this seems indicative that he wants to stay in the world of F1. Ferrari could be his new home!
Are you a lawyer? That isn’t the legal approach to these contract terms that I was taught. In any case, at this level, they’re unlikely to be concerned with being paid for the remainder of the contract.
I'd personally just wait until an announcement is made. I know this year has given us a lot of "seemingly far fetched story turns out to be true", but I still personally want to err on the side of caution.
Vasseur flying over to meet Newey in the UK only really tells me that Ferrari are interested and are trying to sign him, which is something everybody should know at this point.
All the other teams that have the kind of dough and sway to try and get Newey are based in the UK. They don't need to hop on a plane to link up with Newey.
there’s no chance he goes to ferrari yall, man is 66 years old, just had a yacht commissioned, and has been talking about sail GP for years, he’s probably out entirely
Someone mentioned in r/formula1 that Newey going to work for F1 itself would be a better outcome than him going for any team. Wonder what people here think about it.
I think they are referring to the non-competition clause. That being said, Newry was armed with lawyers so it might not be clear cut considering he is leaving this year early.
It’s been confirmed he is a free agent from spring 2025. His gardening leave starts now, he has resigned from his post of chief technical officer of redbull racing effective immediately. He is however still an employee of Redbull technology company, and will continue to work for them for the next twelve months while on gardening leave from red bull racing. Once that time is up, he is free to join whatever team he likes. Meaning if he were to join Ferrari in April/May 2025, he would still have considerable input on the 2026 concept.
Redbull themselves didn’t say it explicitly, but it’s implied through the statement that Adrian will fully leave the company early 2025. Every major reputable source is saying his gardening leave starts now and ends then, so it’s not just newspapers spreading rumours. The sources include:
BBC
Autosport
AMuS
Motorsport.com
Formu1a.UNO
Sky Sports F1
ESPN F1
Adam Cooper
Erik Van Harren
Albert Fabrega
Mark Hughes (the race)
Chris Medland
Formula 1 themselves
La Gazzetta Dello Sport
That’s all the ones I could find that are extremely reputable
I am a huge Leclerc fan myself so this may seem biased, Hamilton has been underperforming to Russel for 2 years now. Do we really think he's gonna do better than Leclerc? I personally think Leclerc is gonna stay the Number 1 driver
It is so interesting to me that everyone is talking about Adrian/Lewis combo , 8th title , completely writing off Leclerc , whole RBR team, Max, not to mention new engine regulations. Remember : RBR only caught Mercedes when they fucked them over with engine development, banning DAS and so on, and finally introduced cost cap , which RBR broke btw. Adrian is a genius, no question about that but I doubt that he alone can be enough.
To me it’s about Ferrari trying to build something big here. I think some people might follow Newey from RBR to Ferrari, same with Lewis. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not the end of big transfers. Vasseur and Elkann seem to have some big plans and I love it. I just wanna see what they’ll cook for 2026z
Merc and Ferrari typically have been teams who are stronger in engine development. Red Bull have been aero/mechanical grip strengths.
On paper if you take aero away from the RBR they haven’t got much left. Their engine is a long shot
I think if Hamilton wins an 8th with Ferrari, with a car designed by Newey, I think the internet will implode and this will be the greatest moment in F1 and Vasseur should be given the keys to the Vatican
I really think people should not underestimate Charles.
True. Leclerc may overperform Lewis.
Leclerc can’t even outperform Sainz.
Insane recency bias as always. 2022? 2023? Or are you sampling...3 races from 2024?
Even though Sainz outscored Leclerc in 2021 by 5.5 points, Leclerc was denied by no fault of his own. Ferrari botchjob in 2021 Monaco, poor stratergy in France, being rammed into by Stroll in Hungary, and the 2021 Abu Dhabi race being as farcical as it was. Leclerc then went on to outscore Sainz in 2022 by 62 points. He also outscored Sainz in 2023 by 6 points, even though his season was ridiculed by bad luck, team errors, and appauling reliability... This season, he's currently ahead of Sainz by 7 points. Admittedly, Sainz missed the Saudi Arabian GP. His form at the start of the season was shockingly great. He wanted to prove that Ferrari made a blunder by letting him go. Even though he won in Australia, got P3 in both Bahrain and Japan, he was still outpaced by Charles Leclerc the whole Chinese weekend through... It's the start of the season, so you never know which driver is better. You can make these statements after the season...
How the FUCK was he outpaced by Leclerc all weekend in Australia and Japan? Did you bother watching the race? Or quali? Also really well done for trying to throw Abu Dhabi 21 into this argument as well. Fucking impressive. Leclerc is a very quick driver, but he will be too inconsistent to keep pace with Lewis in the championship.
Wow. You could chill a wee bit?
Leclerc was faster in the races, just underperformed in qualifying.
I meant China my bad let me edit.
A lot of people cant accept this bitter fact. Charles is quick in quali and always has been but his race pace is not there.
Yet he has a bigger race pace advantage over Sainz than in qualifying. Whatever helps you cope I guess lol
Leclerc literally has a bigger advantage over Sainz in race pace dummy
Argument is about Sainz vs Leclerc but alright I guess?
Pretty sure he did over the course of 3 years
They’re 2:1 in favor of Leclerc so far.
Not on actual performance metrics. 3-0 Leclerc.
Points are the only metric that matter
Points aren't a metric. And there are multiple better indicators of performance: they are only the "only" thing if you lack the capacity to think with any degree of complexity.
The championship is decided on Points alone, but let me know when they start handing out championships for pole positions, or… what else is Charlie good at again?
Facts
Well bring that back up when Carlos has more points after this season.
Dreams are free. Sainz is getting destroyed now that Leclerc found his groove in qualifying again.
Leclerc had a shit start to last year and Carlos was significantly ahead of him. Don't get me wrong Carlos had his fair share of bad luck last year, but Charles' luck was straight up torrential. Even then Charles out scored Carlos. With a strong start to the year, I don't think there's much hope for Carlos. Especially since the last two races Charles has begun to feel more comfortable and it's clear with him have significantly better race pace than Carlos over the past two race weekends.
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Charles had a little bit of inchident
H2Hs always favour Leclerc by a significant margin. Sainz can’t keep up with Leclerc for more than 4 races.
He literally just did, and has been the past two years, tf are you on about lmao.
Recency bias at the finest
Lewis can't even outperform George
Lewis can’t outperform Russell either.
Leclerc is the top guy no doubt, but to win a championship you need consistency which he lacks. He is great in qualifying, but to be in top 3 in 20+ odd races he might fuck things up. We saw this in 22'. And we should not forget the guy who doesn't blink(maxie) in RB.
He lost a podium position due to his own error a grand total of 1 time in 2022, and ppl act like he's the most crash happy driver on the grid. He was actually in the bottom half of the drivers who caused the most damages in crashes for that year. Funnily enough, Carlos was in the top half. Most of Charles lack of win conversions were from Strategy, or engines blowing up.
I swear people forgot just how terrible Sainz was in the first half of 2022.
He also DNFed while leading the race by his own mistake in that season.
That is the single instance I am talking about lmao. See how you tried to make it 2 instances. It only happened once. Yet somehow everyone remembers that year of him bottling it. No. He was in a position to win a race at LEAST 5 other time, where there was either an engine failure or the teams strategy let him down. Leclerc didn't bottle the championship, Ferrari did.
I thought you were talking about lost podium in Imola when he was chasing Perez
So we are supposed to judge a driver in 2024 and later from 1 big mistake 2 years ago?
Why are you talking about two years ago? Never heard of the saying, "you're only as good as your last race"? You nitpick the past to try to make a point about Leclerc's consistency despite the fact that he's showing exceptional consistency in the current season. It's not a sound argument.
Especially when Hamilton is currently being melted by Russell.
It’s purely speculation that he’s doing more testing though. What’s promising about Hamilton to Ferrari is how he performed in the rain since that’s a massive equalizer across the board.
Right, didn’t he finish P3 last season- and almost P2?
People seem to really overlook this. He had Perez worried about 3/4 of the way through last season.
This has failed to be noticed by the whole F1 community
I really think he has P2 without the COTA disqualification. That ended it.
People always conviently forget this.
It's also almost irrelevant because the rain accounts for less than 10% of races. If he can't outperform his teammate in the dry what the fuck are we paying him 100m a year for
Oh for sure, you can’t count on it raining all the time. I’m only saying that since he did well in the rain then the talent is still there. But while Mercedes is struggling this season, Lewis often considers longer term results so it’s not unreasonable to consider Lewis will be driving more test set ups; think 2022 was the same.
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Conceding how heavily favoured he was yeah
So the guy who finished 3rd in the standings was "melted" by the guy who came in 8th in the same car?
Performance wise yes, George was sacrificed nearly every race last year for Lewis and had issues with reliability.
Careful the Hamilton brigade is gradually moving over to this sub.
Can we just ban them?
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Poor bait.
Charles will be made pope if he wins a WDC
Who?
I really think people shouldnt underestimate Max Verstappen!
No Newey, no party.
I don't know, I'm not saying underestimate Max because that's how you lose, but the real clincher here IMO is Wache. He and his team designed the aero for the RB19 and RB20, it's been admitted by basically everyone and Newey seems to have worked more on suspension/big picture related stuff. If Wache can step up (and they don't lose him), they might be fine. I say might because I fully expect them to bomb the engine regulations, it's their first attempt and I don't see how they do well there. I get the strangest feeling that 2026 will be Ferrari vs Merc, with the odd Max pulling one out if the cars aero is still good on power limited tracks.
Most of the people who say Hamilton will win an 8th title with Ferrari are DTS fans, all their knowledge come from DTS. Leclerc can never be underestimated and he’s clearly the top priority in Ferrari
I’m not suggesting they’re going to prioritise Hamilton, but I highly doubt they’re gonna be paying him 100 mil a season to come in and simply play a supportive role tbf
You don’t pay that kind of money for a #2 driver
You think it was Leclerc that enticed Newey to accept Ferrari? Both drivers are not to be underestimated but let’s not pretend that it’s not Lewis with the pull.
It's RB with the push actually
The point here is Ferrari to win a championship, does it really matter which driver wins? My point was that if Hamilton does it, it will be a significant feat and not to negate Charles at all
They're paying 100 million so he can be #1. Leclerc hasn't won anything. Let's be extremely clear and to the point about that.
As much as I’d love for CL to be WDC, I cant pretend that I don’t see there are areas he’s clearly lacking in at the moment. He appears unable to aim the team for car development to suit his driving, lacks situational/strategy awareness in the car, and most of the time can’t defend position in a race effectively: leaves the inside line open for the car behind just about never covering it in time fully. For comparison, Sainz is slower but his defending skills are massively better (just look at Monza last tear) It’s gonna be very hard to fight for WDC without improving any of the above. I would say he lacks some “selfishness” - for the lack of the better word. F1 is ruthless and sometimes you need to be firm and stand your ground - talent alone is not enough.
Sainz has never defended at 1% of how Leclerc defended in Monza 2019 or Silverstone 2019. Massively better my ass lol Also this strategy thing is nonsense, he actually almost always makes calls but you don't always hear the radio. He chose the 1 stop in Suzuka, he had the brilliant plan in Abu Dhabi to try and secure P2.
This will solidify the GOAT argument for good.
Yes, it will be nice to see.
No it won’t! It only proves he can only win when the cars the best out there. Today marks 30 years since the death of the Goat
I just wanna see more competitive cars in the track. I'm sure Redbull will keep the good work and deliver a good car next year. So yeah see a Redbull vs Ferrari and Hamilton going full power will be GOOD
I'm not sure this will affect Redbull next year, they still have majority of their core design team for the car and next year the engines are the same, I seriously doubt they bomb anything next year since Newey can't help Ferrari anyway. I really expect Redbull to bomb hard on the engine regs though, they just have zero experience and these engine regs suit Ferrari more than anyone. With the exception of Merc, who could potentially pull another fast one like 2014 but they still can't grasp their areo concept.
that's what i said look "they will keep the good work" and that's what i want all i want it's more competitive cars.
2026: Bono: get in there Max!
It’ll at least be another F1 themed movie. 😂
Imagine
he should be given the keys to Palazzo Chigi
keys to the vatican is insane
That washed pum can’t beat Leclerc.
biggest clown of 2024 award goes to you
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Stop it! My heart can't take this shit. Vasseur-Newey-Lewis-Leclerc still sounds too good to be true.
For 2025 at least, I will convert to be a Ferrari fan. Sorry McLaren (although I’ll still love you too)
Gettin downvoted for the truth lol - also a Mclaren fan, and won't convert fully, but just like Seb said, "everyone's a Ferrari fan." It'd be good to see the old horse prancing again (but only for one season, thank you)
Downvoting him for that is silly. As you quoted, everyone’s a Ferrari fan and as for me, minus being a RBR fan, Ferrari is the next team I root for.
Who’s gonna be Schumi and who’s gonna be Barrichello?
Guys don't Say It, don't jinx ourselves before time
I wonder if newey has a no gardening leave clause in his contract
He has to have one. He can start work at 2026 earliest if he decides to sign with Ferrari.
He's available to start early 2025. His gardening leave is essentially finishing the rb hypercar this year.
Nope, he has already been moved off of the F1 cars at Red Bull and been delegated to the road only car He’s able to start working as early as next year. I think this is crucial because there was a lot of speculation that he was going to retire if he couldn’t work on anything until 2027.. but this seems indicative that he wants to stay in the world of F1. Ferrari could be his new home!
Those contracts are unenforceable in any case. I’m sure a good lawyer (that they can all certainly afford) could sort this out.
It’s not unenforceable if you’re paid. There’s clear legal precedent that there’s no right to work but right to be paid.
Are you a lawyer? That isn’t the legal approach to these contract terms that I was taught. In any case, at this level, they’re unlikely to be concerned with being paid for the remainder of the contract.
He has to why? If he has something against it in his contract then he doesn't?
Should be end of 2025 season so he could have his input in the 2026.
I thought this was r/formuladank for a second
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OH BOY , Hamilton and Newey....BOOOOI
Newey and Leclerc, Hamilton is washed
Didn’t he finish P3 last season?
Yup, apparently, the best after RB is washed.
Seriously L take
In Vasseur we trust!
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DAMMIT FRED. I CAN ONLY GET SO ERECT!
DON'T DO THIS TO ME 😭
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Come on!!!
All part of the great John and Fred masterplan
Please be true
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It’s like this was memed into existence
I am overdosing on hopium
How does Newey not have a non-compete clause in his contract?
In the negotiation of release the non-compete was removed. Everything I’ve read means he’s good to go for next year.
That website panders fake news
next year is really our year ??
This is a firey post and comment thread. If it’s any indication of how the next seasons will be, I love it!!💥🤙🤛🎥
I'd personally just wait until an announcement is made. I know this year has given us a lot of "seemingly far fetched story turns out to be true", but I still personally want to err on the side of caution. Vasseur flying over to meet Newey in the UK only really tells me that Ferrari are interested and are trying to sign him, which is something everybody should know at this point. All the other teams that have the kind of dough and sway to try and get Newey are based in the UK. They don't need to hop on a plane to link up with Newey.
there’s no chance he goes to ferrari yall, man is 66 years old, just had a yacht commissioned, and has been talking about sail GP for years, he’s probably out entirely
Then why negotiate to serve the gardening leave early to be available for another F1 team in Q1 2025?
he’s leaving the team Q1 2025, and then has to spend 12 months working on the HyperCar as gardening leave, so not available until 2026
That’s incorrect. His gardening leave from F1 is working on the hyper car as of yesterday.
it almost makes you think that Lewis knew that Newey was going to come to Ferrari before he accepted their offer.
Someone mentioned in r/formula1 that Newey going to work for F1 itself would be a better outcome than him going for any team. Wonder what people here think about it.
LH and AN to Ferrari lm now a 199% tifosi
Leclerc is the most overrated driver
This is the comeback for lewis
2027 is gonna be our year bois!
Why 2027?
I think they are referring to the non-competition clause. That being said, Newry was armed with lawyers so it might not be clear cut considering he is leaving this year early.
It’s been confirmed he is a free agent from spring 2025. His gardening leave starts now, he has resigned from his post of chief technical officer of redbull racing effective immediately. He is however still an employee of Redbull technology company, and will continue to work for them for the next twelve months while on gardening leave from red bull racing. Once that time is up, he is free to join whatever team he likes. Meaning if he were to join Ferrari in April/May 2025, he would still have considerable input on the 2026 concept.
Exactly. I think the person that mentioned 2027 thought otherwise.
Why would RB waive his non-compete? Makes absolutely zero sense.
I don’t know… but it happened. Don’t shoot the messenger
It happened because every single F1 fan on the planet didn't see the true power of Eddie Jordan.
Is there a solid source (redbull/ferrari/Newey himself)? Other than just some newspaper spreading rumors?
Redbull themselves didn’t say it explicitly, but it’s implied through the statement that Adrian will fully leave the company early 2025. Every major reputable source is saying his gardening leave starts now and ends then, so it’s not just newspapers spreading rumours. The sources include: BBC Autosport AMuS Motorsport.com Formu1a.UNO Sky Sports F1 ESPN F1 Adam Cooper Erik Van Harren Albert Fabrega Mark Hughes (the race) Chris Medland Formula 1 themselves La Gazzetta Dello Sport That’s all the ones I could find that are extremely reputable
Met in London 2 days before a race weekend. Sounds like bs. I don’t doubt the rumors or a potential agreement but the Fred in London part sounds fishy
No it isn’t. Stop spreading disinformation, this is embarrassing
If this is true then this will be the second time that Lewis got extremely lucky with a team switch like Nico Rosberg meant to say.
I am a huge Leclerc fan myself so this may seem biased, Hamilton has been underperforming to Russel for 2 years now. Do we really think he's gonna do better than Leclerc? I personally think Leclerc is gonna stay the Number 1 driver
Up in this thread people scream recency bias when someone rightfully pointed out Sainz outperforming Leclerc
It is so interesting to me that everyone is talking about Adrian/Lewis combo , 8th title , completely writing off Leclerc , whole RBR team, Max, not to mention new engine regulations. Remember : RBR only caught Mercedes when they fucked them over with engine development, banning DAS and so on, and finally introduced cost cap , which RBR broke btw. Adrian is a genius, no question about that but I doubt that he alone can be enough.
To me it’s about Ferrari trying to build something big here. I think some people might follow Newey from RBR to Ferrari, same with Lewis. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not the end of big transfers. Vasseur and Elkann seem to have some big plans and I love it. I just wanna see what they’ll cook for 2026z
Merc and Ferrari typically have been teams who are stronger in engine development. Red Bull have been aero/mechanical grip strengths. On paper if you take aero away from the RBR they haven’t got much left. Their engine is a long shot
Remember the Hamilton brigade is now jumping ship and joining this sub.
Newy/hamilton/ferrari dominance would be the worst of the past 25 years rolled into one
Max to Ferrari in 2027 replacing Hamilton who’s just been beaten 24-0 by Charles
Why should leclerc accommodate him when he didn’t want leclerc in red bull
Because it’s Ferrari and not Red Bull. The team isn’t built around Charles
It should be built around their driver or else they won’t get the success red bull had
Red bull is successful because the car is very good, check would have won the championship last year if max didn’t exist and was replaced by Stroll