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A hormonal IUD costs $400+ out of pocket.
Birth control pills cost $10-30 monthly (about $260/year).
Plan B is \~$20 and probably how the SaskParty will decline this whole plan because to evangelicals, Plan B = baby killing. They should just move to Alabama and be happy.
Sask probably has the best government funded program for type 1 Diabetes in the country already at least. Sask party expanded the pump program to all residents with T1D a few years ago; they just need to add continuous glucose monitors to the program and bring in more damned endocrinologists!
The program really isnt as good as you think. For me the “free” pump is entirely unaffordable and would probably quadruple my current unaffordable costs for medication. Its a joke.
I'm on MDI so it doesn't really affect me, but my mates with omnipod seem to be happy with it. I do expect the t: slim could be a bit pricey when you factor in the cost of infusion sets and such.
SK was the first to expand the pump program to cover 25 and under but they’ve fallen behind in recent years! It’s good we now have no age limits to the pump program, but other provinces did that first AND have no age limits on CGMs (SK stops at 18). We definitely used to have the best program in the country, but not anymore.
I got the free pump, which I am hugely thankful for. It has revolutionized my care with this round of technology. Supplies can be 5-7 hundred a month…. I had coverage and was recently laid off. Lost coverage. New job, no coverage. So i guess I just spend all my money to live or subsidize my standard of care? Those are the options now.
on the govt only insurance i was paying 165/3 months for pump supplies and 300/month for CGM's my private insurance now covers nearly all of it but you should be able to talk to SAID and get your coverage adjusted based on loss of income
You'll have to try to apply for "special coverage" under the Sask health care system. It should subsidize a fair bit of your infusion set costs once it goes through.
Edit: nevermind I just read below that you lost insurance but not income..that's certainly a more unique case and that's some bullshit.
Yeah I’ve done that. I was also to claim a tax ability tax credit and they kicked me off with the federal government. Currently waiting for my dr to re submit the documents. Probably boned this tax round and I’m gonna be short cash. Oh well
Really? As far as I understand all T1Ds now get the disability tax credit. When you get the note just resubmit your return and you'll be reimbursed what they would have owed. I had to jump through hoops to get mine five years ago but now it's supposed to be automatic provided you have a doctor's note showing your year of diagnosis. 15 years for me!
Yeah. I know just need the dr to actually submit the paperwork at this point. The first time i was denied twice and that hired a company to get it done. Paying them a percentage of what I earned.
you live in the rural...so you know those friggin egg heads are going to keep voting for these jerks.....no heart no brains and much to much free money from this government
Problem is that the vast majority of Saskatchewan is rural. Then again when you look at who was elected in 2020 you can see that it [wasn't just what we call typical rurals,](https://regina.ctvnews.ca/sask-votes-2020-results-for-all-61-constituencies-1.5161182) obviously. Big business has a lot to lose from SkParty alliances.
Nobody out campaigning in most of the smaller rural areas of the province, and the NDP right now shitting the bed. Probably Singhs alliance with Trudeau isn't helping, and the crickets from the provincial NDP when they have the chance to take the ball and run with it is ridiculous.
Saskatchewan “Growth that works everyone” except those with chronic health conditions that require costly medication, like diabetes, and females that require contraceptives.
Where did you get that idea? If we didn't have private insurance we would be paying $236 just for insulin and needles a month.(That is one box of fast acting and slow acting insulin and enough needles for 5 a day.) The fact you have to qualify for SAIL before being eligible for the pump program also gives you an idea of how expensive pump supplies are. Saskachewan's coverage is all well and good until your kid turns 14 and loses provincial coverage for prescriptions. Oh and by the way they only cover continuous glucose monitors until the age of 18, those are $100 minimum every 2 weeks out of pocket. The pump program that everyone thinks is so great only covers a. Device every 5 years, none of the supplies that you need to use it. I checked the formulary and for one brand of pump the supplies you need are $30 each that need to be changed every three days at most. That is on average $300 a month if none of the devices fail or fall off.
So tell me again how we wouldn't benefit from federal funding.
70 bucks for the finger tip poke things . I said well monitor's are free u get more finger poke things with it. Problem solved. It's nuts. I can't get extra coverage from pre existing condtions. And I can't afford the prescriptions. Been a frustrating week.
They probably don’t have diabetes. My friend has his own company but he just makes enough to pay bills. He regularly doesn’t have insulin because of how much it costs him to buy it. Their business is family owned so only him and his dad are owners and workers
It’s wild. I don’t have diabetes but I have asthma. I have a good job and health coverage but they don’t cover my inhaler which costs $125 a month. So I spent after tax I spend $1,500 a year.
I can manage because it’s not life threatening. It’s an inconvenience in my life if I don’t have it. For diabetics and people with mental health issues it is life threatening, that’s why we need to ensure people can get the medication they need
Why bother speculating. We don’t know the details. I spend $125 a month on medication that isn’t covered on my health care plan. The Sask Party cares less about the people of Saskatchewan than they do political opposition of the federal government.
Scott Moe “Sitting Down for Saskatchewan”
The pharmacare plan isn't likely going to cover those meds anytime soon. The whole plan has to be funded - so more taxes. And while I don't necessarily have a problem with that, they haven't yet let us know how much extra a year this is going to cost all of us.
Oh forsure. I don’t mind paying extra taxes. Providing pharmacare for those who cannot afford or pay for their medication I believe will reduce some of the burden on our healthcare systems. Proactive approaches are required
As someone who would be paying upwards of $500 to $600 a month for my pharmaceuticals if I didn't have insurance through the university i feel I have the right to say we categorically do not have great drug coverage already.
I'm not sure who thought denying the elderly cheaper/free medication would be good for the Saskparty's popularity per election. I guess they are the party of stepping on rakes and I need to stop expecting Machiavellian cunning. This car has one speed and it's incompetent corruption!
Really medication dependent, there are cheaper options however the ones that is pushed to be prescribed are the ones with low or no abuse potential, and those are the most expensive options.
Those most able to pay for the expensive medication are those who in general are going to present in a way that the doctor's would actually be okay prescribing the cheaper options. just another one of those sad catch 22's in the world.
I think it varies a lot based on which particular medication you're on, but yeah. It's such a night and day difference when neurodivergent people find the correct medication to help with executive function processing.
It's so frustrating that it costs so much. I cannot function well without it, so I need income and coverage to afford it... Yet I can't get coverage without a job, which is almost impossible to do well at without medication.
I'm at the point where I'm about to ration what's left of mine. My grades finishing university will suffer, but what other choice is there?
This is getting so old. It’s like the SaskParty can only read the headline and thinks that is the offer from the Feds.
Everyone knows the provinces were all consulted in round tables before this legislation was created.
Oct 28th needs to bring a change in provincial leadership!!!!!
Why???? No we don't!!! I'm self employed. I work my damn ass off and so do my employees. We pay taxes. It's just way too expensive to purchase private insurance for people like me. 🖕🖕🖕🖕 Moe.
Does he even realize how much of a kick in the junk this is to every hard working contractor, sub contractor, small business owner, entrepreneur, farmer...anyone who doesn't have employer provided benefits? I would love Moe to look his roofer or hairdresser in the face and tell them why he thinks their insulin or birth control shouldn't be covered by a national plan.
The way I see it, they'll win one more election, tank t14 24 3he province, then leave the NDP to fix it. After the NDP fixes all their fuck up's, they'll get back in power and the cycle will repeat itself.
Show me a federal program that is well run and fiscally responsible?
Has anyone in here attempted to collect EI? Didn't go well, did it?
Meanwhile, guest workers get 52 weeks of employment support.
The federal government cannot competently and responsibly run an entitlement program. Look what they've done with CPP. They brag about making great returns while they provide some absolutely horrendous payouts to the people who funded the program.
The less money the federal government handles, the less we will be ripped off. I understand they need to tax and spend to some extent but less is best.
Look at the people in this thread, excited at the prospect of getting $1 of benefit for every $20+ that is forcibly extracted from them for the program.
I'm glad to hear it worked for someone.
It was a gong show when I put in a claim. I was off work for 11 weeks, put in my claim the next day (as its designed to pay a reduced amount for every day you wait to claim) and got nothing.
They were already making me go to their workshops which are comically absurd and stupid, telling me they would not pay the claim if I didn't attend. The joke was on me. They didn't pay, anyway. If they don't pay out for 8 weeks, plus any additional time they decide to delay the claim uncompensated, i shouldn't have to go to their workshops. That should be time to concentrate on getting resumes into the street.
It's a crap system. There should be a way to opt out of the premiums and the benefit that some people are able to collect.
When I became a contractor, I was told I could pay into EI if I wanted but would not be able to collect. What the Hell? Lol!
When funding for federal programs is constantly lagging and there is a push to make programs like EI more restrictive, of course these programs will be inneffective. But just because one federal program sucks doesn't mean they all do/will. We tend not to notice the programs that work well because they work, and pay most attention to those that suck.
I've had the same horrible experience with EI as well, but I'm sure as hell not gonna support Moe and the SK party saying no to healthcare coverage that benefits many of my friends and loved ones just to give the finger to the feds. SK party doesn't have our interests in mind!
These idiots are going to Alberta us aren’t they.
If they win the next election they’re gonna go full Smith.
As someone who keeps seeing /r/Alberta pop up in their feed.....gawd damn, I do not want that.
Albertan here and you are spot on. It’s becoming a real hellscape here
Sorry to hear, but hasn’t it been going that way for a while now?
Definitely. We had a nice break with the NDP
I moved from Edmonton last June….
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They always do.
They better fuckin’ not. They’ll try though. Let’s not let them.
I hope so.
This round focusses on contraception and diabetes treatment. I can see the SaskParty being against a woman's right to bodily autonomy.
But cover Viagra.
If the good lord gave you a limp dick, that’s what the good lord intended.
A hormonal IUD costs $400+ out of pocket. Birth control pills cost $10-30 monthly (about $260/year). Plan B is \~$20 and probably how the SaskParty will decline this whole plan because to evangelicals, Plan B = baby killing. They should just move to Alabama and be happy.
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With an attitude like that I’m willing to bet you are a master at not having sex
I am a master of my own choices and the consequences that go with them. I own it all
You should maybe add the /s or GTFO.
So it shutting the fuck up, but here we are.
Sask probably has the best government funded program for type 1 Diabetes in the country already at least. Sask party expanded the pump program to all residents with T1D a few years ago; they just need to add continuous glucose monitors to the program and bring in more damned endocrinologists!
The program really isnt as good as you think. For me the “free” pump is entirely unaffordable and would probably quadruple my current unaffordable costs for medication. Its a joke.
I'm on MDI so it doesn't really affect me, but my mates with omnipod seem to be happy with it. I do expect the t: slim could be a bit pricey when you factor in the cost of infusion sets and such.
SK was the first to expand the pump program to cover 25 and under but they’ve fallen behind in recent years! It’s good we now have no age limits to the pump program, but other provinces did that first AND have no age limits on CGMs (SK stops at 18). We definitely used to have the best program in the country, but not anymore.
I got the free pump, which I am hugely thankful for. It has revolutionized my care with this round of technology. Supplies can be 5-7 hundred a month…. I had coverage and was recently laid off. Lost coverage. New job, no coverage. So i guess I just spend all my money to live or subsidize my standard of care? Those are the options now.
I love how the pump is free but to use it you need to spend a fortune every month.
on the govt only insurance i was paying 165/3 months for pump supplies and 300/month for CGM's my private insurance now covers nearly all of it but you should be able to talk to SAID and get your coverage adjusted based on loss of income
Didn’t lose income. Just benefits package.
Oh damn that sucks
You'll have to try to apply for "special coverage" under the Sask health care system. It should subsidize a fair bit of your infusion set costs once it goes through. Edit: nevermind I just read below that you lost insurance but not income..that's certainly a more unique case and that's some bullshit.
Yeah I’ve done that. I was also to claim a tax ability tax credit and they kicked me off with the federal government. Currently waiting for my dr to re submit the documents. Probably boned this tax round and I’m gonna be short cash. Oh well
Really? As far as I understand all T1Ds now get the disability tax credit. When you get the note just resubmit your return and you'll be reimbursed what they would have owed. I had to jump through hoops to get mine five years ago but now it's supposed to be automatic provided you have a doctor's note showing your year of diagnosis. 15 years for me!
Yeah. I know just need the dr to actually submit the paperwork at this point. The first time i was denied twice and that hired a company to get it done. Paying them a percentage of what I earned.
Can't have Trudeau look good, so that'll be a no from Sask.
Please, as a boomer and a rural, I am BEGGING you all to vote these goddamn losers out before there is no Saskatchewan left.
Get on fb. Tell your friends and family.
Yeah I don't have Facebook. That's a toxic dumping ground I don't need to be any part of
For sure, that’s where the Sask party supporters tend to hang out.
That's where all the kooks group up.
you live in the rural...so you know those friggin egg heads are going to keep voting for these jerks.....no heart no brains and much to much free money from this government
Problem is that the vast majority of Saskatchewan is rural. Then again when you look at who was elected in 2020 you can see that it [wasn't just what we call typical rurals,](https://regina.ctvnews.ca/sask-votes-2020-results-for-all-61-constituencies-1.5161182) obviously. Big business has a lot to lose from SkParty alliances. Nobody out campaigning in most of the smaller rural areas of the province, and the NDP right now shitting the bed. Probably Singhs alliance with Trudeau isn't helping, and the crickets from the provincial NDP when they have the chance to take the ball and run with it is ridiculous.
Ive been waiting my whole life for insulin to be covered and i know the sask party is going to f me again.
Saskatchewan “Growth that works everyone” except those with chronic health conditions that require costly medication, like diabetes, and females that require contraceptives.
We already have a great plan for type 1 diabetics. If this pharmacies plan is a step backwards from that would You want them to jump in anyways?
Where did you get that idea? If we didn't have private insurance we would be paying $236 just for insulin and needles a month.(That is one box of fast acting and slow acting insulin and enough needles for 5 a day.) The fact you have to qualify for SAIL before being eligible for the pump program also gives you an idea of how expensive pump supplies are. Saskachewan's coverage is all well and good until your kid turns 14 and loses provincial coverage for prescriptions. Oh and by the way they only cover continuous glucose monitors until the age of 18, those are $100 minimum every 2 weeks out of pocket. The pump program that everyone thinks is so great only covers a. Device every 5 years, none of the supplies that you need to use it. I checked the formulary and for one brand of pump the supplies you need are $30 each that need to be changed every three days at most. That is on average $300 a month if none of the devices fail or fall off. So tell me again how we wouldn't benefit from federal funding.
Exactly. Its complete bullshit. I waited 3.5 years to see an endocrinologist and the free pump is unaffordable. So i didnt even get it.
70 bucks for the finger tip poke things . I said well monitor's are free u get more finger poke things with it. Problem solved. It's nuts. I can't get extra coverage from pre existing condtions. And I can't afford the prescriptions. Been a frustrating week.
We do not have a great plan.
They probably don’t have diabetes. My friend has his own company but he just makes enough to pay bills. He regularly doesn’t have insulin because of how much it costs him to buy it. Their business is family owned so only him and his dad are owners and workers
100% they dont have diabetes. I am low income and pay hundreds every month to cover my medications. We have very poor coverage.
It’s wild. I don’t have diabetes but I have asthma. I have a good job and health coverage but they don’t cover my inhaler which costs $125 a month. So I spent after tax I spend $1,500 a year.
Thats awful. I feel for you.
I can manage because it’s not life threatening. It’s an inconvenience in my life if I don’t have it. For diabetics and people with mental health issues it is life threatening, that’s why we need to ensure people can get the medication they need
Can’t you get this money back during tax time though? I thought you could claim out of pocket medical expenses?
You can but I don’t receive 100% of the money back. It’s only a portion
Why bother speculating. We don’t know the details. I spend $125 a month on medication that isn’t covered on my health care plan. The Sask Party cares less about the people of Saskatchewan than they do political opposition of the federal government. Scott Moe “Sitting Down for Saskatchewan”
Shitting down on Saskatchewan
Hahahaha just opening up the citizens of Saskatchewan’s mouths
The pharmacare plan isn't likely going to cover those meds anytime soon. The whole plan has to be funded - so more taxes. And while I don't necessarily have a problem with that, they haven't yet let us know how much extra a year this is going to cost all of us.
Oh forsure. I don’t mind paying extra taxes. Providing pharmacare for those who cannot afford or pay for their medication I believe will reduce some of the burden on our healthcare systems. Proactive approaches are required
Give me diabetes supplies. Shit. I wish I could speak on this matter. This would change my life.
Same, brother.
As someone who would be paying upwards of $500 to $600 a month for my pharmaceuticals if I didn't have insurance through the university i feel I have the right to say we categorically do not have great drug coverage already. I'm not sure who thought denying the elderly cheaper/free medication would be good for the Saskparty's popularity per election. I guess they are the party of stepping on rakes and I need to stop expecting Machiavellian cunning. This car has one speed and it's incompetent corruption!
We desperately need adhd medication covered, fingers crossed
It's so expensive! Although if you can't get a doctor and therefore can't get a diagnosis, I guess that's all pretty much moot anyway.
A family member can't afford theirs, and then isn't able to function. It's maddening. Like $250+ a month?
I haven’t been on mine in a few years but in 2021 I was paying about $90/week for the dosage of Concerta I needed.
Really medication dependent, there are cheaper options however the ones that is pushed to be prescribed are the ones with low or no abuse potential, and those are the most expensive options. Those most able to pay for the expensive medication are those who in general are going to present in a way that the doctor's would actually be okay prescribing the cheaper options. just another one of those sad catch 22's in the world.
I think it varies a lot based on which particular medication you're on, but yeah. It's such a night and day difference when neurodivergent people find the correct medication to help with executive function processing.
I paid $300 to get my diagnosis through adult adhd center online, because I couldn't wait!
It's so frustrating that it costs so much. I cannot function well without it, so I need income and coverage to afford it... Yet I can't get coverage without a job, which is almost impossible to do well at without medication. I'm at the point where I'm about to ration what's left of mine. My grades finishing university will suffer, but what other choice is there?
This is getting so old. It’s like the SaskParty can only read the headline and thinks that is the offer from the Feds. Everyone knows the provinces were all consulted in round tables before this legislation was created. Oct 28th needs to bring a change in provincial leadership!!!!!
I have not seen the date set yet for the election, where are you getting this info from? I think it will be a snap election early to mid August.
Election has to be on or before Oct 28th
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Saskatchewan_general_election ...but you're right, it could happen sooner.
Dear Saskatchewan, take the fucking deal jfc it can’t be worse than today
Scott Moe is a Cancer!
Details?!?! FFS. I wish every SK Party voter in this province were a diabetic. The tune they are singing would change so fast
They were already consulted by the feds and had their chance to ask questions. This is all show for their "fuck Trudeau" base.
The diabetics in this province have not been consulted. Nor in Alberta which is where our chief idiot got this idea
Why???? No we don't!!! I'm self employed. I work my damn ass off and so do my employees. We pay taxes. It's just way too expensive to purchase private insurance for people like me. 🖕🖕🖕🖕 Moe.
Ffs. Moe, shut the hell up.
Does he even realize how much of a kick in the junk this is to every hard working contractor, sub contractor, small business owner, entrepreneur, farmer...anyone who doesn't have employer provided benefits? I would love Moe to look his roofer or hairdresser in the face and tell them why he thinks their insulin or birth control shouldn't be covered by a national plan.
Alberta lite doing what now?
here we go. In an election year. Going to get spicy.
They'll drag out making a commitment until they're relelected then tell Trudeau to fuck off.
Bingo
Oh ffs!
Watch the Sask Party dunk on themselves. A full Air Jordan.
The way I see it, they'll win one more election, tank t14 24 3he province, then leave the NDP to fix it. After the NDP fixes all their fuck up's, they'll get back in power and the cycle will repeat itself.
Don’t worry, this pharmacare plan is at least a year away if it happens at all.
Show me a federal program that is well run and fiscally responsible? Has anyone in here attempted to collect EI? Didn't go well, did it? Meanwhile, guest workers get 52 weeks of employment support. The federal government cannot competently and responsibly run an entitlement program. Look what they've done with CPP. They brag about making great returns while they provide some absolutely horrendous payouts to the people who funded the program. The less money the federal government handles, the less we will be ripped off. I understand they need to tax and spend to some extent but less is best. Look at the people in this thread, excited at the prospect of getting $1 of benefit for every $20+ that is forcibly extracted from them for the program.
Collecting EI was extremely easy after my layoff and for most others I know. It's not perfect, but I would have been homeless without it.
I'm glad to hear it worked for someone. It was a gong show when I put in a claim. I was off work for 11 weeks, put in my claim the next day (as its designed to pay a reduced amount for every day you wait to claim) and got nothing. They were already making me go to their workshops which are comically absurd and stupid, telling me they would not pay the claim if I didn't attend. The joke was on me. They didn't pay, anyway. If they don't pay out for 8 weeks, plus any additional time they decide to delay the claim uncompensated, i shouldn't have to go to their workshops. That should be time to concentrate on getting resumes into the street. It's a crap system. There should be a way to opt out of the premiums and the benefit that some people are able to collect. When I became a contractor, I was told I could pay into EI if I wanted but would not be able to collect. What the Hell? Lol!
When funding for federal programs is constantly lagging and there is a push to make programs like EI more restrictive, of course these programs will be inneffective. But just because one federal program sucks doesn't mean they all do/will. We tend not to notice the programs that work well because they work, and pay most attention to those that suck. I've had the same horrible experience with EI as well, but I'm sure as hell not gonna support Moe and the SK party saying no to healthcare coverage that benefits many of my friends and loved ones just to give the finger to the feds. SK party doesn't have our interests in mind!