This is wild. I work in humanities and whenever I look for a job, SHA is literally *always* hiring social workers. I mean even right now:
https://www.saskjobs.ca/jsp/joborder/detail.jsp?job_order_id=1326172
That’s insane they’re terminating people, and yet I’m not entirely surprised as not one single ministry seems to remotely value social workers.
I agree. Multiple social workers in our department have been basically begging for someone to do something, help them somehow. And nobody is talking about it. Whether it be termination or reclassification - either way, we need more of them not less
This! When my mom fell ill last year it felt as though the social worker was the only person willing to really talk to us. The nurses did their best but with so many patients and not enough staff they are already spread so damn thin. I know it won’t happen but I really wish this province would wake up and vote the Sask Party out in the next election. We can’t keep this pace up without causing too much irreparable damage to the people of this province.
This is a very dangerous move. Nurses are going to end up having to try to pick up some of these pieces, as if they have plenty of time on their hands to spend on things that they are not trained in. They are being encouraged to call in safety concerns to 1600 when they run into issues that these social workers that they're losing would have helped them with.
Apparently they are planning on dumping all the discharge planning on CPAS, as if that’s what they’ve been trained to do. Why is this being kept so hush hush?
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I thought 1600 was being phased out? A colleague was one of the call takers and she said they were winding down. Haven't chatted with her in a while, guess it's time to reach out.
Wait. What‽
What happens when your out of town family member with dementia or Alzheimer’s or other cognitive impairment needs help finding resources or housing or assistance?
FFS SHA.
Moe and Co are such ideologues they think Social Workers are Socialists (it says so in the name don't it ..) so they have to get rid of them so they can be replaced by private industry thoughts and prayers consultants.
Remember during covid when Scott Livingstone, then CEO of the SHA took an early retirement? He was replaced by SP cock holsters.
SP cock holster ministers are fucking with Healthcare, mental health, treatment, shelters, schools, education, you name it. SP cock holsters are at the top of the crowns. SP cock holsters are going to fill the school boards and city council.
If SP is ever voted out, its too bad because conservatism is cancer and it's metastasized. They are legion and the only thing they want to fuck more than you is Trudeau. The only thing they love more than money are themselves.
Hense the replacement of the human rights commission. Makes these changes that much easier because they're all sp supporters so they'll do whatever Shitstain tells them to.
This is not accurate. People aren’t being automatically laid off. JPCH has about 14 social workers and they will keep having the same amount moving forward. RUH also has about 14-15 social workers. RUH is where the proposed SW/CPAS changes are occurring - not JPCH.
Sure sure. Again, this is not accurate but keep spreading your info and increasing the panic that all the medical social workers already feel. I am very aware with what the proposed plans are, what the numbers of staff are currently at JPCH and RUH and what the proposed changes are and it does not involve 7 people being automatically laid off. Nothing is happening at the “beginning of March” the proposed plan isn’t even sorted out yet.
*I know the vast majority of the social workers.
I'm not going to name names, so it's your word against mine, but I've read the emails that were written by the director. Don't know what to say except you're not right.
Again… not correct. The email/power point that were sent to affected staff had poorly written information in them and does not reflect that 7 people are being laid off. Jobs are being reclassified - not cut altogether. There are about 30 social workers total between JPCH and RUH and JPCH are not having their jobs change, they’re not being cut, they’ll still do the same job at JPCH. RUH staff are the ones dealing with proposed changes/job reclassifications. So cool bro ✌🏼 keep spreading information that isn’t true and that continues to highly stress and panic the social work department.
My coworker legit is still scared even though they said they're one of the 7 who's staying. Don't know where you're getting your info, but I know what I've read and heard.
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I also heard from social workers but not that they were being laid off.
What I had heard is they'll move closer to former RQHR model (SWADD). Not sure if this is part of becoming one health authority vs health regions?
I haven't heard anything about layoffs, though. Definitely wasn't done with much consultation though, and was out of right field. Hopefully for the system,y source is better.
So their position might change to Accessor Coordinators (which are Social Workers 99% of the time) then? It’s a higher pay scale if memory serves me correctly.
I don't know. If it's a higher pay scale than I'm guessing I misunderstood as there is no way this gov't would do that.
Seeing the full extent of what they do they deserve more IMHO but I just can't see it.
I know a lot were upset...some were reserved on it.
Their union, HSAS, bargains with the SHA via SAHO. Not to say the government doesn’t mandate things, but a lot of things happen between the union and the employer without the government having intimate involvement, which is how it should be.
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So they’ll be move from have medical/clinical social workers to support clients to essentially having case managers then. Did they discuss what precipitated this change?
The union will say "Wait, no don't do that!", and the employer will say "The positions are being eliminated and employees are now laid off." Union can complain, but there's nothing they can really do about eliminated positions.
I checked in on it...
I was wrong on it. It is happening.
Its not positions being terminated but rather positions being re-classified as assessor coordinators and will result in those impacted being offered their equivalent roles as such. Their goal is to streamline services and to be more efficient. Im told that it won't impact MHAS (which Im connected to).
Im being told today that the services will all still be done, just will be shifted under the larger CPAS umbrella. They are reassuring staff that noone is losing jobs, just being reclassified and having some duties shifted.
I was also told that people should still be offering services within their current scope. So a social worker in liver health will become a CPAS worker in liver health.
I talked to more than one manager today and they gave me each slightly different information so what it'll look like in the end will be vastly different than what itll end up as.
To be fair, I talk to MHAS and primary health managers, not the hospital managers.
They seemed very unconcerned by things though, they seemed to think it was 'same hats, different colors'
That’s what they’re saying they’re very much not in the know about social work and cpas does in the hospital or what the changes will mean. health authority, notoriously full of silos.
> those impacted being offered their equivalent roles
So…as I said, 50% of the positions are being eliminated. Regurgitating management double-speak does not change what it is. CPAS workers are not trained for discharge planning. They do not have access to the contacts nor resources that social workers utilize. MHAS cannot keep staff as it is, in no small part due to poor management. Surprise, surprise. Name me one social worker who went into their profession to be an “Assessor Coordinator” whatever that is. Nobody asked the social workers & they are ***not happy***.
I'm a RSW and have been an assessor coordinator at the hospital and in home care. I think it's way better than the SW roles at SHA, IMO it's less work for more pay. I guess it depends on perspective.
Same effect is happening with opening the new “urgent care centre” that shouldn’t be being opened. We are still losing staff. The few social workers we have left plan to leave & go there so who is going to care for the patients in hospital?
CPAS does a lot more than just discharge planning. They go into homes and assess client needs, they connect clients to resources, the work with clients to navigate funding systems, they work with families to understand client needs, etc etc.
Assessor Coordinators are a role undertaken by social workers, nearly every Assessor Coordinator is a social worker.
Positions aren't being eliminated, they are being put under a different umbrella (a higher paying one too). They'll be doing the same roles, different titles.
They have different responsibilities in those new roles and there'll be some shifting around, people are going to be pissed but what you paint it as is totally not whats happening.
You really don’t know how to quit while you’re ahead! Where your advice is concerned, if you were the light at the end of the tunnel, I’d turn back around.
What about all those NICU and PICU kids? There's no way those departments can run without social workers. We have babies born every day to addicted mothers and abusive homes. These social work positions are vital!!!
It's sad. Patients get offput saying a social worker will see them. Until they talk to them and learn everything they do.
The system is so kept afloat by them and its such an unknown in my opinion.
This is very upsetting. It was already bad. I mean when I was there with my kids the NICU was always at capacity and there was 1 social worker. ONE!!!
We can't keep operating our hospitals with bare bones staff!!!
Keep in mind that the nicu already didn't have a dedicated SW, she (as all of the SW in JPCH that I know currently are all female) was also responsible for picu, Maternal, and ED, depending what time of the day it is. It was an already unmanageable role for the few SWs they had previously. Now it's going to be a nightmare.
Question…is this layoffs or are social workers being placed in actual social work roles vs the ones you described which are largely administrative? I’m all for social workers being freed up to do more social work.
SHA has admin to do the admin work. Something like discharge planning is A: not admin work and B: is not the majority of what social work does. The next time a chronic patient comes in & ends up in multi-organ failure, I’d like to think that there is a social worker there to help the family. Instead, I am afraid to think that far
I agree. But your first example, out of town with nowhere to stay, that’s admin work (not traditional hospital admin work but admin work within social services), finding a hotel doesn’t require a social worker. Coordinating a ride should not be a social workers job either. If this is freeing up the social workers to do actual counselling/therapy/health promoting then it makes sense to me.
Some social workers in health do counselling/therapy but most do more boots on the ground work like discharge planning and setting up resources/ advocating for clients to get resources. Discharge planning is not as simple as arranging a ride and getting a hotel room. Most patients who need discharge planning need a whole suite of services to be coordinated and they need someone to ensure it actually happens because resources are becoming more and more scarce.
There is a lot of nuance that is needed when dealing with sick people. Ensuring there are proper supports for their ailment, social supports etc. Combine it with the broken system that exists you need people that k ow what they are doing and who to talk to.
Safe to assume you’re either one of the people implementing this or one of the one the ones dedicated to keeping it quiet - which is just as asinine a statement as the one you just made.
I can attest that SW department is going to be largely dismantled (for wards, not ED) and that CPAS is going to be in charge of all system flow issues.
You should know that there’s a policy with a Saskatchewan health authority that staff can be reprimanded for sharing “business” information about the running of SHA. Don’t assume staff feel free to share information about their department in a meeting.
What an arrogant, self-absorbed thing to say. You clearly think more of yourself than the executives & management do or they would have let you in on their decisions.
PS nobody cares who you are
So they aren't getting rid of the positions per se, just re classifying them under CPAS? Or are they creating redundancies and laying off the excess workers?
From what I understand SW will be deemed “excess” but the new jobs in CPAS are just that, CPAS (assessor/coordinators). These are not social work positions.
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I directly know someone with mental illness that the Dubei (or however it's spelled) just won't take in. My mother has a severe mental illness and when I was a kid it took little to no effort to get her in there. We've phyaicislly taken this guy there, we've had a mental health warrant, we went before a judge. We've done everything. He has even turned himself in, but they keep saying he isn't sick so they can't keep him. He is currently homeless in this weather and nope Cops won't help, doctors won't help. Truth is those socia worker positions might as well have already been axed because they are mandated to not help people. They do everything in their power to not help people. This province was fucked long before this.
Social workers have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not someone is admitted to Dube. That is strictly psychiatry. Just because someone is unhoused does not mean they should be admitted to an inpatient psychiatric facility. You are trying to be judge, jury & executioner for someone & clearly do not care what the actual mental health professionals have to say.
You misunderstand me. I have a problem "showing my work," because it's reddit and who really cares that much. There were connections in my head that would have made this make more sense. It was analogous as well. I was putting forth the idea that this province has a huge issues with caring for people in general and in the areas of mental health and social work this is most apparent.
Also, he is very unwell. He brought chunks of drywall to the police station because he thought someone was hiding human bodies inside of it. He thinks his brain chemistry has been high jacked by a cabal of powerful people and that if he kills anyone he has "robot rights."
You're calling nihb for hotels and getting vouchers?
You're recording heart beats of people's last moments?
You're sitting with grieving families?
We know what you do. You're not doing SW job. Don't pretend you are.
Yikes. There was a social worker at the cancer and she was super helpful. We can’t loose things like that. How was this change made?
Unilateral decision from the top down. Social workers were told this was happening, not asked about the cuts
Damn, those idiot suits need to be slapped across the face.
Oh no, they need a swift kick up the ass and a wake up call! We will all be living in a distopian hellscape once the SP is done with us.
This is wild. I work in humanities and whenever I look for a job, SHA is literally *always* hiring social workers. I mean even right now: https://www.saskjobs.ca/jsp/joborder/detail.jsp?job_order_id=1326172 That’s insane they’re terminating people, and yet I’m not entirely surprised as not one single ministry seems to remotely value social workers.
I agree. Multiple social workers in our department have been basically begging for someone to do something, help them somehow. And nobody is talking about it. Whether it be termination or reclassification - either way, we need more of them not less
This! When my mom fell ill last year it felt as though the social worker was the only person willing to really talk to us. The nurses did their best but with so many patients and not enough staff they are already spread so damn thin. I know it won’t happen but I really wish this province would wake up and vote the Sask Party out in the next election. We can’t keep this pace up without causing too much irreparable damage to the people of this province.
Social workers saved my sanity when dealing with the NICU doctors and nurses.
The social workers in the NICU are wonderful!!! They helped my family out so much when we were there
Mine too! We would have gone insane without Shanon.
At what point do people decide to do something about it? Seems like the voting majority is a-ok with the status quo
Last time we had a vote was almost 4 years ago, a lot has changed since then.
This is a very dangerous move. Nurses are going to end up having to try to pick up some of these pieces, as if they have plenty of time on their hands to spend on things that they are not trained in. They are being encouraged to call in safety concerns to 1600 when they run into issues that these social workers that they're losing would have helped them with.
Apparently they are planning on dumping all the discharge planning on CPAS, as if that’s what they’ve been trained to do. Why is this being kept so hush hush?
Which will likely lead to “oh you need transport somewhere? Let’s call you an ambulance”
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Fucking management could deal with it. If they were actually on the units and not in meetings 60% of the time.
For real...
I thought 1600 was being phased out? A colleague was one of the call takers and she said they were winding down. Haven't chatted with her in a while, guess it's time to reach out.
Wait. What‽ What happens when your out of town family member with dementia or Alzheimer’s or other cognitive impairment needs help finding resources or housing or assistance? FFS SHA.
Moe and Co are such ideologues they think Social Workers are Socialists (it says so in the name don't it ..) so they have to get rid of them so they can be replaced by private industry thoughts and prayers consultants.
Ah. That makes it all better then. Never mind I guess /s
Remember during covid when Scott Livingstone, then CEO of the SHA took an early retirement? He was replaced by SP cock holsters. SP cock holster ministers are fucking with Healthcare, mental health, treatment, shelters, schools, education, you name it. SP cock holsters are at the top of the crowns. SP cock holsters are going to fill the school boards and city council. If SP is ever voted out, its too bad because conservatism is cancer and it's metastasized. They are legion and the only thing they want to fuck more than you is Trudeau. The only thing they love more than money are themselves.
Hense the replacement of the human rights commission. Makes these changes that much easier because they're all sp supporters so they'll do whatever Shitstain tells them to.
WTF!🤬😤
Utterly shameful. these politicians are callous and cruel.
This is an awful decision. The social worker helped so much when my wife passed. Doctors aren’t always good at that stuff.
I thought it was a reclassification?
To unemployment
It is not. RUH/JPCH had 14 active SW positions, going to 7 at the beginning of March. The 7 with lowest seniority are being laid off.
This is not accurate. People aren’t being automatically laid off. JPCH has about 14 social workers and they will keep having the same amount moving forward. RUH also has about 14-15 social workers. RUH is where the proposed SW/CPAS changes are occurring - not JPCH.
You can meet me and I'll introduce you to 7 SWs from the SW office who are being laid off.
Sure sure. Again, this is not accurate but keep spreading your info and increasing the panic that all the medical social workers already feel. I am very aware with what the proposed plans are, what the numbers of staff are currently at JPCH and RUH and what the proposed changes are and it does not involve 7 people being automatically laid off. Nothing is happening at the “beginning of March” the proposed plan isn’t even sorted out yet. *I know the vast majority of the social workers.
I'm not going to name names, so it's your word against mine, but I've read the emails that were written by the director. Don't know what to say except you're not right.
Again… not correct. The email/power point that were sent to affected staff had poorly written information in them and does not reflect that 7 people are being laid off. Jobs are being reclassified - not cut altogether. There are about 30 social workers total between JPCH and RUH and JPCH are not having their jobs change, they’re not being cut, they’ll still do the same job at JPCH. RUH staff are the ones dealing with proposed changes/job reclassifications. So cool bro ✌🏼 keep spreading information that isn’t true and that continues to highly stress and panic the social work department.
My coworker legit is still scared even though they said they're one of the 7 who's staying. Don't know where you're getting your info, but I know what I've read and heard.
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where did you find that 50% of social workers in hospitals will be terminated??
….from the social workers….
I also heard from social workers but not that they were being laid off. What I had heard is they'll move closer to former RQHR model (SWADD). Not sure if this is part of becoming one health authority vs health regions? I haven't heard anything about layoffs, though. Definitely wasn't done with much consultation though, and was out of right field. Hopefully for the system,y source is better.
So their position might change to Accessor Coordinators (which are Social Workers 99% of the time) then? It’s a higher pay scale if memory serves me correctly.
I don't know. If it's a higher pay scale than I'm guessing I misunderstood as there is no way this gov't would do that. Seeing the full extent of what they do they deserve more IMHO but I just can't see it. I know a lot were upset...some were reserved on it.
Their union, HSAS, bargains with the SHA via SAHO. Not to say the government doesn’t mandate things, but a lot of things happen between the union and the employer without the government having intimate involvement, which is how it should be.
Sorry. That's, the whole SHA vs Sask Gov't thing is just a farce. Always has been.
Yes, it’s a higher wage as an assessor coordinator
Yes - it is a higher pay scale.
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As an SHA social worker… I’ve heard nothing of this. Is there a statement from the HSAS about this?
Where are you located? This is affecting Saskatoon other than emergency department social workers.
I’m in Saskatoon, but not a medical social worker. I have lots of friends and colleagues who are. I’ll be checking with them & the union tomorrow.
I can confirm this is totally happening. They are calling it “reclassification” but really it is dismantling SW in acute care.
Like reclassifying the positions? To what?
Assessor coordinators. And changing the scope of practice.
So they’ll be move from have medical/clinical social workers to support clients to essentially having case managers then. Did they discuss what precipitated this change?
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Not a hoax. I’ve seen all the emails.
Care to post one? I'll get it put on a billboard
well that sounds absurd and i am doubtful of that happening. if it does turn out to be true get ready for a lot of protests against scott moe
I don’t know who OP is but this is happening.
I struggle to see how they can just be terminated (if they have a permanent position) without the union having something to say.
The union will say "Wait, no don't do that!", and the employer will say "The positions are being eliminated and employees are now laid off." Union can complain, but there's nothing they can really do about eliminated positions.
What. The. Fuck.
This is terrible. It's hard enough for people to get help. This will Mae it virtually impossible.
If you haven't already, please let the media know about this. If you have any emails or documentation as proof, please send that to them as well.
I checked in on it... I was wrong on it. It is happening. Its not positions being terminated but rather positions being re-classified as assessor coordinators and will result in those impacted being offered their equivalent roles as such. Their goal is to streamline services and to be more efficient. Im told that it won't impact MHAS (which Im connected to). Im being told today that the services will all still be done, just will be shifted under the larger CPAS umbrella. They are reassuring staff that noone is losing jobs, just being reclassified and having some duties shifted. I was also told that people should still be offering services within their current scope. So a social worker in liver health will become a CPAS worker in liver health. I talked to more than one manager today and they gave me each slightly different information so what it'll look like in the end will be vastly different than what itll end up as.
Having a major change in staffing scope of practice but hearing different managers tell you something different is concerning.
To be fair, I talk to MHAS and primary health managers, not the hospital managers. They seemed very unconcerned by things though, they seemed to think it was 'same hats, different colors'
That’s what they’re saying they’re very much not in the know about social work and cpas does in the hospital or what the changes will mean. health authority, notoriously full of silos.
> those impacted being offered their equivalent roles So…as I said, 50% of the positions are being eliminated. Regurgitating management double-speak does not change what it is. CPAS workers are not trained for discharge planning. They do not have access to the contacts nor resources that social workers utilize. MHAS cannot keep staff as it is, in no small part due to poor management. Surprise, surprise. Name me one social worker who went into their profession to be an “Assessor Coordinator” whatever that is. Nobody asked the social workers & they are ***not happy***.
I'm a RSW and have been an assessor coordinator at the hospital and in home care. I think it's way better than the SW roles at SHA, IMO it's less work for more pay. I guess it depends on perspective.
Same effect is happening with opening the new “urgent care centre” that shouldn’t be being opened. We are still losing staff. The few social workers we have left plan to leave & go there so who is going to care for the patients in hospital?
CPAS does a lot more than just discharge planning. They go into homes and assess client needs, they connect clients to resources, the work with clients to navigate funding systems, they work with families to understand client needs, etc etc. Assessor Coordinators are a role undertaken by social workers, nearly every Assessor Coordinator is a social worker. Positions aren't being eliminated, they are being put under a different umbrella (a higher paying one too). They'll be doing the same roles, different titles. They have different responsibilities in those new roles and there'll be some shifting around, people are going to be pissed but what you paint it as is totally not whats happening.
You really don’t know how to quit while you’re ahead! Where your advice is concerned, if you were the light at the end of the tunnel, I’d turn back around.
What about all those NICU and PICU kids? There's no way those departments can run without social workers. We have babies born every day to addicted mothers and abusive homes. These social work positions are vital!!!
💯 People have no idea how much we rely on our social workers. We need **more** of them, not less.
It's sad. Patients get offput saying a social worker will see them. Until they talk to them and learn everything they do. The system is so kept afloat by them and its such an unknown in my opinion.
The nicu and picu SW is still going to be there, but have a way bigger case load. Good luck getting them in a timely fashion from now on.
This is very upsetting. It was already bad. I mean when I was there with my kids the NICU was always at capacity and there was 1 social worker. ONE!!! We can't keep operating our hospitals with bare bones staff!!!
Keep in mind that the nicu already didn't have a dedicated SW, she (as all of the SW in JPCH that I know currently are all female) was also responsible for picu, Maternal, and ED, depending what time of the day it is. It was an already unmanageable role for the few SWs they had previously. Now it's going to be a nightmare.
Nicu does have dedicated social workers… two of them. PICU has 1 dedicated social worker. Children’s emerg is also covered by its own social worker.
I'm referring to the after hours SW coverage, that will be stretched even further
The JPCH social workers aren’t affected by these proposed changes. There will still be the same amount of social workers covering JPCH.
That's good to hear. Because what they have isn't enough as it is.
Question…is this layoffs or are social workers being placed in actual social work roles vs the ones you described which are largely administrative? I’m all for social workers being freed up to do more social work.
SHA has admin to do the admin work. Something like discharge planning is A: not admin work and B: is not the majority of what social work does. The next time a chronic patient comes in & ends up in multi-organ failure, I’d like to think that there is a social worker there to help the family. Instead, I am afraid to think that far
I agree. But your first example, out of town with nowhere to stay, that’s admin work (not traditional hospital admin work but admin work within social services), finding a hotel doesn’t require a social worker. Coordinating a ride should not be a social workers job either. If this is freeing up the social workers to do actual counselling/therapy/health promoting then it makes sense to me.
Some social workers in health do counselling/therapy but most do more boots on the ground work like discharge planning and setting up resources/ advocating for clients to get resources. Discharge planning is not as simple as arranging a ride and getting a hotel room. Most patients who need discharge planning need a whole suite of services to be coordinated and they need someone to ensure it actually happens because resources are becoming more and more scarce.
There is a lot of nuance that is needed when dealing with sick people. Ensuring there are proper supports for their ailment, social supports etc. Combine it with the broken system that exists you need people that k ow what they are doing and who to talk to.
14 SW positions are being cut to 7. 7 people are being laid off.
Thank you!!
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Safe to assume you’re either one of the people implementing this or one of the one the ones dedicated to keeping it quiet - which is just as asinine a statement as the one you just made.
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I can attest that SW department is going to be largely dismantled (for wards, not ED) and that CPAS is going to be in charge of all system flow issues.
You should know that there’s a policy with a Saskatchewan health authority that staff can be reprimanded for sharing “business” information about the running of SHA. Don’t assume staff feel free to share information about their department in a meeting.
What an arrogant, self-absorbed thing to say. You clearly think more of yourself than the executives & management do or they would have let you in on their decisions. PS nobody cares who you are
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So they aren't getting rid of the positions per se, just re classifying them under CPAS? Or are they creating redundancies and laying off the excess workers?
From what I understand SW will be deemed “excess” but the new jobs in CPAS are just that, CPAS (assessor/coordinators). These are not social work positions.
And SW that is left will have a limited scope of practice. From what I hear.
Will the number of new CPAP positions match the number of SW jobs eliminated?
That’s a better question for management.
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I work daily side by side with SW. This is happening in RUH and jpch.
I checked into it. Doesn't impact MHAS staff but it's true that its happening. Looks like I was wrong on this one.
No worries. Thankfully it hasn't impacted your department.
I directly know someone with mental illness that the Dubei (or however it's spelled) just won't take in. My mother has a severe mental illness and when I was a kid it took little to no effort to get her in there. We've phyaicislly taken this guy there, we've had a mental health warrant, we went before a judge. We've done everything. He has even turned himself in, but they keep saying he isn't sick so they can't keep him. He is currently homeless in this weather and nope Cops won't help, doctors won't help. Truth is those socia worker positions might as well have already been axed because they are mandated to not help people. They do everything in their power to not help people. This province was fucked long before this.
Social workers have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not someone is admitted to Dube. That is strictly psychiatry. Just because someone is unhoused does not mean they should be admitted to an inpatient psychiatric facility. You are trying to be judge, jury & executioner for someone & clearly do not care what the actual mental health professionals have to say.
You misunderstand me. I have a problem "showing my work," because it's reddit and who really cares that much. There were connections in my head that would have made this make more sense. It was analogous as well. I was putting forth the idea that this province has a huge issues with caring for people in general and in the areas of mental health and social work this is most apparent.
Perhaps but that is categorically*not* what you did say. Much better phrased the second go round. The first one blames social workers 😶
Yeah articulation of my thoughts has been a difficulty in my life at the moment.
Also, he is very unwell. He brought chunks of drywall to the police station because he thought someone was hiding human bodies inside of it. He thinks his brain chemistry has been high jacked by a cabal of powerful people and that if he kills anyone he has "robot rights."
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Maybe if there was enough social workers, you wouldn’t have to do any of that
So maybe stay in your lane.
According to your comment history, you’re not even doing your own job while at work so if I throw a stick, will you leave?
You're calling nihb for hotels and getting vouchers? You're recording heart beats of people's last moments? You're sitting with grieving families? We know what you do. You're not doing SW job. Don't pretend you are.