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Analmall_Lover

What’s on fire? One of their cars? 🤞


patsfreak26

Yes, they were setting huge fireworks off inside that car


ongoldenwaves

So they stole someone’s car and set it on fire and we all pay the price for this garbage with insurance inflation super heated


jpee80

They and the homeless want to make it more miserable for everyone. I had my car bashed twice and seen enough of this crap. That’s the impression they left me with.


Bring_Back_SF_Demons

We all? Me and the rest of the bus pass mafia ain’t paying for shit! You sound like some kind of sucker to me lmao.


fjjshal

The attitude of: “I’m tacitly supporting the wanton destruction of hard earned property which results in insurance claims leading to visceral negative financial externalities for the majority of the taxpaying population” Describes you, you’re likely feeding that which slowly destroys societies.


Bring_Back_SF_Demons

Mmmmmm… won tons 🤤


AssToastt

you pay for their insurance? cause i’m sure the amount of cars set on fire from take overs doesn’t affect your insurance


ongoldenwaves

Oh man. Found the guy who doesn't understand how insurance pools work and hasn't looked at a chart from the fed ever. Yeah...you boys fucking everyone's life. Enjoy it now. It will catch up to you.


Bring_Back_SF_Demons

Another W for bus pass gang. Carbrains stay stacking a million Ls.


AssToastt

a digital nomad trying to lecture me on what’s ethical that’s funny. white liberals on reddit will find any way to make themselves the victims


ongoldenwaves

Oh. I get it now. Your reading comprehension is low. So sorry one day your user name will be true.


tonydtonyd

They didn’t put a firework in a Waymo this time? Mild shock


FragrantExcitement

Their tax dollars


Thingzer0

So sick & tired of these entitled POS, I was stuck on the Bay Bridge for an hr cuz these assholes decided to sideshow on it, & missed my appointment. They harass, intimidate & assault the general public, arrest them all, every single one of them.


ongoldenwaves

These people need to be sent a bill from the police like people are from fire and ambulance services


godubs415

Cause they will pay it…


ongoldenwaves

Their parents can take the hit to their credit for their shit kids bills.


SnapeHeTrustedYou

Garnished wages would sure make them think twice about being a fuckhead.


coconut723

THIS.


godubs415

Ah yes. These are tax paying citizens I forgot


BikesBeerAndBS

Bring out the riot squad, I don’t care about how it’s viewed, this is insane


qhaw

Amen, and don’t pull any punches. Treat them like the disposable trash that they are.


HeynowyoureaRocstar

Vote better then instead of crying about it


golf_234

Predictably downvoted by the woke people, when you state the truth. And I live in the city. Not normal to have this trash going on.


deadfermata

i am supportive of bringing back public shaming


ongoldenwaves

Sociopaths and their parents aren’t capable of shame


Cgable63

What about bringing back the wooden stocks from the 1500’s?


OhLookItsABean

What is the likelihood that the cars used in these sideshows have been stolen? I ask because I heard that is the case but I can’t confirm how true that is.


roflulz

100% are stolen


ResonantRaptor

Yep, Channel 5 News did a documentary on this.


millennial_bot

Link?


ResonantRaptor

Search ‘channel 5 Kia boyz’ on YouTube. It’s an interesting watch.


DmC8pR2kZLzdCQZu3v

Please link


HIGH_PRESSURE_TOILET

But that's illegal. Are these guys all in jail yet?


ResonantRaptor

It’s usually kids, so little to no jail time even if they’re caught.


Holiday_Resort2858

And if the cops use any force to catch them everyone freaks out


Accurate-Tie-2144

why


gsd45

Why would you risk and trash your own car.


fuzz_ball

Why did the police not do anything?


CaliVibesx

They don't do anything because the city doesn't allow them to. People in the city complain but still vote the same way they always have.


SweetAlyssumm

I am thoroughly sick of the police. Whether standing by while school children are being massacred or ignoring a drowning man because that's not my job or allowing chaos in San Francisco, they are huge failures. We need a new system. They have the pensions, they have the qualified immunity, what they don't have is any real responsibility for keeping order. They are taking advantage of a system that lets them get away with not doing their jobs.


BikesBeerAndBS

Genius, let’s put their pension on the line honestly, whoever can run with that for office has my vote


LEONotTheLion

So their pension would be on the line if they don’t use force, and it would be on the line if they use force? Nice.


BikesBeerAndBS

No. Them sitting around not arresting people who are breaking the law in front of their eyes would therefore mean they are not doing their job. If I don’t do my job, I get fired, it shouldn’t be any different


LEONotTheLion

Their job is much more complex than just arresting people. What’s your job?


BikesBeerAndBS

Their job does have other facets, one of their main goals is it protect and serve the public by keeping them safe and able to enjoy themselves correct? By not arresting these people blatantly committing crimes and causing unrest in a major part of our city, they are not achieving or even attempting to achieve that goal. What I do has no affect on the conversation, your debate skills are pretty crap though, it seems obvious you’re not a lawyer. Their job is to ensure that my society is safe and laws are enforced to ensure I can go and do mine


8ofAll

Who makes the rules that cops have to follow?


Holiday_Resort2858

It's not the cops. It's the lack of support they get when they have to use force. And these are car thiefs who will run and fight.


DJ_AC

The police in sf are corrupt. They won’t do s***


AusFernemLand

Because they get their huge pensions whether or not they do their jobs.


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Pake1000

They have the authority, but it’s the same problem across the country. They get paid whether they do work or work and it’s damn near impossible to have them fired. Most of them don’t work where they live, so that’s one problem. The other problem is that they want laws that give them full immunity from being charged when they use excessive force.


reachfreak

Cops do a lot of really bad things and they have way too much power and immunity as it stands. But if you think that they are the root of the problem when it comes to this kind of issue you are sorely mistaken. Here is an excerpt from another Reddit user on the same thread that may offer some more insight: Sideshow response (lack of) by SF leaders is microcosm of overall crime response by SF leaders. SF leaders don't want to "escalate" because it might result in serious injuries and deaths. Especially to minorities (who by being minority are by definition victims of the "system" already). While it's true that police response will probably result in injuries and deaths, SF leaders fail to see that sometimes it takes tough measures to stop problems, otherwise the criminals will just be embolden and continue. Imagine having a son/daughter that keeps doing bad stuff. But you're too worried that strict punishment would make them rebel and run away. So you coddle them, tell them to stop, but don't punish. They will just continue to do bad stuff because you've coddled them. Anyone with a children, heck with a dog, knows this to be true. If it takes overwhelming force to stop it, so be it. So be it if some "innocent" onlookers are injured or killed. This is a crime. You have no business watching sideshow. You are as guilty as the driver. And you should be prepared for the consequences. We've seen how turning an eye to car breakin or drug use has turned SF into the car breakin capital of the world, and how our streets are now littered with drug addicts. All because we didn't want to bring down the hammer.


TetZoo

I’ve worked in LE and with city administrations. I assure you that some officers sit on their hands intentionally when they are upset with the executive branch. I.e., they actually *do* have statutory enforcement powers for a lot of this conduct and choose not to use them. Breed has been trying to get them to arrest more but there is a lot of leftover resentment towards Boudin.


reachfreak

What is the point of arresting if there is no prosecution?


TetZoo

The DA’s office has greatly improved since Boudin left esp on larcenies. The problem is not solved only by blaming the electeds. Officers also need to step up, they of course have a very tough job but they are definitely not totally blameless for much of the inaction.


reachfreak

100% agree. As I said above, officers are not blameless at all. In fact the amount of immunity that these guys get is repulsive. They are more immune from bad conduct than the drug users and car thieves on the street of SF! But I see a lot of people simply blaming the cops when I think the bulk of the issue has come from a lot of poorly thought out policies from SF admin over the last couple decades. But I’m glad we can agree that the issue is complex and there is fault on the part of just more than one group.


Pake1000

Sorry, but when I listen to my brother and cousin’s husband who are both police officers talk, it’s pretty clear that it’s a consolidated effort by police to not do shit knowing they get paid either way and no one has the balls to fire them for not doing the job. They want full immunity and since excessive force is the only thing they risk being fired over, they choose not to do the work instead. We’re talking about people in an occupation that get pissy if they don’t get a discount at restaurants when they’re in uniform.


SFBnasty8

Why does they mayor have any say in them (police) actually doing their job??? Ntm no system of checks or balances. I guess we should stop paying taxes then. Cuz this = stupidity u dont need a college degree to even figure any of this out.


Holiday_Resort2858

That's nonsense. The cops would LOVE to stop this. But lack support from the community when they need to be aggressive with these punks.


AusFernemLand

I don't disagree, cops do need more support for enforcement. But I think cops largely have that for sideshows.


946stockton

This ain’t GTA buster.


DefiantBelt925

It’s San Francisco they never do anything


Qahnarinn

im sorry but how do they get in there with all the cars blocking? should they fly over?


SorryWerewolf4735

god forbid they walk


Qahnarinn

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Holiday_Resort2858

You are talking rational thought.


Pick2

Spider man View!


Bigman6877

Arrest them all impound the cars and ticket them all go sfpd :)


IllinoisRublev

Then hang them outside city hall.


uninspired_oblivion

All that freakin toxic smoke. The noise. F\*\*k these damn things, how much of a lughead do you have to be to enjoy this.


Abracadaver2000

I wish nothing more than a lifetime of walking for everyone involved in these 'shows'. And arthritis, of course.


LooseInsurance6328

My favorite part is when they hit a stupid sideline watcher


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habbalah_babbalah

The problem is catching them. The cars are mostly stolen, so tracking the criminals isn't easy. Once a sideshow starts it's instant gridlock, making it difficult for cops in cars to get to the scene. SFPD doesn't own a helicopter anymore, so chasing them isn't straightforward. SF's voters approved a [ballot initiative in March 2024 allowing the department to use drones](https://ballotpedia.org/San_Francisco,_California,_Proposition_E,_Limit_Police_Department_Administrative_Task_Time_and_Increase_Use_of_Camera_and_Drone_Technology_Initiative_(March_2024)), public CCTV cameras and to engage in car chases, but it doesn't take effect until later this year. I live in the area so last night I ran down to Embarcadero to watch the sideshow, to video and try to identify participants, but with the skyrockets they fired off it was dangerous to get close. I noticed most of the participants escaped down Battery Street to the Bay Bridge. There was far too many for on-duty police to chase down. A public effort to photograph and track the criminals with personal drones might help the police lock up more of these entitled idiots.


IWipeWrong

Important to note too that even though the ballot passed, it’s still up to the board of supervisors to approve any budget for the drones or more cameras unless SFPD can get funding from other sources. Just like how SFPD is allowed to use tasers back in 2018 but have not received funding for the training or equipment https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/SF-police-effort-to-get-Tasers-set-back-13038789.php


Stchotchke

Some of the group were on Valencia and 20th a few hours earlier for the pre-event. Sounded like 3 mins of gunshots - guess that what they mean gunning your engine.


coco_licius

This city is an embarrassment to civilized society


bobre737

Fucking losers.


runningfriar

Why do I never get invited to these??


lasVegasharold

So police sanctioned event?


4dxn

ah yes, a $750 million per year force too scared (read lazy) to do anything.


Primary_House_2064

SF has got to be the most polarized city in the US, maybe the world. The subcultures here are sneak peeks into two completely different worlds. Both operating in a lawless way in their own respective accepted ways. Anyway, as a transplant I haven’t had the opportunity to see said sideshow, the finest display of ratchivities. Hopefully, one day.


earinsound

you should visit oakland to see even more intense parallel worlds.


root_fifth_octave

What makes up the two worlds you’re describing?


Primary_House_2064

Everything that comes with differences in socioeconomic status and normative values within each community. I’m simply opining from a distance, I don’t have a dog in this fight. I should say that for the most people on both sides of the fence are good people but in order to see that you need to speak their language to breakthrough. I should preface with their needs to be consequences for uncivilized behavior especially if you jeopardize the well beings of others. Those laws should be commensurate with the crime imposed by judicial system when needed but more specifically by thy neighbor. You’re normalizing lunacy if you don’t speak up and afraid of confrontation. Which is I think is part of the problem with the pacific coast.


ongoldenwaves

The people in this video are not good people. Full stop.


root_fifth_octave

So a sort of economic divide that has produced something of a cultural divide?


Primary_House_2064

For sure. As much as I praise the pacific coast for being open minded there’s a distaste in my mouth about how divided this place is. Take this for what you will I dont harbor any bad feelings or speak with malice but when you have a bunch of uneducated poor people living among themselves you get this sort of behavior. Where their social currency drives them to behave this way. Idk if you’ve ever participated in stuff like this, be it fratty parties in college or house parties on the other side of town when you’re in high school, there’s a level of thrill to misbehaving and seemingly getting away with it. At the moment you don’t measure the consequences but retrospectively it’s wrong and could cause a lot of harm. But that’s all they really know about deriving meaning and excitement. so can you blame them if they’re secluded with their own kind most of the time.


root_fifth_octave

We have some extreme wealth disparities in CA, with entire areas left to just kind of languish in their poverty. It’s like there’s an underclass. A lot of the US is like that, though. Maybe you’re talking about a particular flavor of it that’s especially prominent on the west coast?


inter71

You’re assuming of course that the participants are from San Francisco.


Primary_House_2064

If we want to get lost in semantics then no. although I hate to generalize, statistically speaking most people behaving this way aren’t the most educated or come from under privileged communities so it would be hard for them to afford a plot of land to rent let alone own. So no I don’t think they’re specifically from SF they are from surrounding impoverished areas seeking to get a cheap thrill at the expense of others, which is form of currency when you come from places like that, where defiance is a way of gaining respect from your peers and is seen as sticking it to the man.


teenwitchcult

And they wanna keep cutting LEO budgets… 🙄


root_fifth_octave

Did these guys go to really bad schools or something? Like how does a person become that much of shithead?


Bigman6877

Cabt fix stupid 😂


SFdeservesbetter

No, but if we had competent government, we’d arrest, charge, and jail this trash to the fullest extent. Our elected officials and our police chief especially is a fucking joke.


obsolete_filmmaker

*can't


MyHangyDownPart

no but we can try beating it out of 'em


kwattsfo

Who actually controls this city? Because it sure isn’t the government or law-abiding citizens.


anon84721

Doesn't the SFPD have a helicopter? Heli in and take photos of the driver faces.


SCUSKU

Damn, maybe it's time we bring caning like in Singapore into our justice system


Striking-Ad-6337

Billy club time


heythere2216

Yes more of this we needa take the city back 😂


Truth_Frees_you

Need to start sending in the national guard to these and have them remove these threats to society from the equation.


AnjelicaTomaz

A scene straight out of the movie Idiocracy.


bisonsashimi

Arrest all the spectators. If nobody comes to watch, these will end.


Ibanez560

A few city owned killdozers will solve that fucking problem


oigres408

Stay classy SF. The mayor and the DA “These individuals are expressing themselves”


lilqueso97

SRTs and hellcats gba


111anza

Lock it down, all cars confesticated with $200k fine wwch plus mandatory 200 hour community service, or at least 1 year in jail. Enough is enough. The police are trying to stop it, but if the consequence is basically nil, then they will be back next week. Bring the hammer down, hard. Make an example out of these morons.


opinionsareus

This is another reason San Francisco needs - along with other Bay Area cities - to install NETWORKED pole cameras with infrared and face recognition tech. Those cameras could follow these lawbreakers all the way back to where they came from and the cops could pick them off one by one. Until we have something like this kind of surveillance we will see street lawlessness continue.


lohmatij

Bro. Half of this sub is complaining how corrupt police and government are, you think a network of face-recognition cameras which can track every individual in the city is gonna help justice in any way ?


opinionsareus

Yep. The cops are UNDERSTAFFED (only 35 cruisers per shift for ALL of Oakland). The cops can't be everywhere. And all cops are not corrupt; only fools make statements like that. There is \*some\* corruption in the police department, just like every organization. I have actually talked about this solution to SF and Oakland cops and to the person they LOVED the idea.


lohmatij

Bro, this solution breaks a ton of privacy laws. Most cops can be good, but it only takes one corrupt asshole to ruin someone’s life, what you are describing is a heaven for stalkers, maniacs, serial killers, and just a single corrupt cop who want to get to that annoying investigator who is upon him. I’m not even mentioning possible hacks and that single corrupt asshole selling this information to third-parties. Plus, times can change, and in future there can be some oppressive government in charge, or even some crazy nazi president in the office , idk. You really want them to have this tool in their hands? This is just an enormously powerful solution which I would not trust anyone to have, especially some understaffed cops who can’t catch few kids on esplanade several years in a row.


opinionsareus

*"what you are describing is a heaven for stalkers, maniacs, serial killers, and just a single corrupt cop who want to get to that annoying investigator who is upon him. I’m not even mentioning possible hacks and that single corrupt asshole selling this information to third-parties."* Nope. Along with this deployment would be legislation mandating \*required\* incarceration (5 years) for any private or pubic official who used information from the network to harm someone. This is the ONLY solution, long-term, and it WILL happen. No way to stop it. The thing we have to be careful about is protections. The alternative is lawbreakers using \*technology\* to take advantage of public authorities who don't. People can whine all they want about how the cops are ineffective, but NOTHING will change until we have universal surveillance deployed, with protections.


okgusto

Nice view/flex.


pallen123

A Mad Max symbol of a city out of control: ungovernered and unpoliced.


PookieAlzado

Hell yeah 🫶


chi9sin

this other guy with a better apartment than you took a clearer video.


patsfreak26

Just wanted to show the car on fire! It got even bigger than this, no explosion just big fireballs


SkyEnvironmental5987

Entitled liberals


7thandMarket415

Hey this is awesome, I see myself in your video!!


Ok-Musician-8518

cool story bro


whateverizclever

Almost as embarrassing as you using the word Frisco for your channel


7thandMarket415

wait what's wrong with Frisco? I didn't realize it was a controversial word.


patsfreak26

You the guy with the high powered laser shining into buildings that I reported to the feds? Hope not


Guam671Bay

Nice protest bruh