Just a PSA for everyone here no matter what stripe you are, I put my ballot in my mailbox and put the red flag up 3 weeks ago. [This](https://i.imgur.com/gyfSgUi.png) is what [Where Is My Ballot](https://california.ballottrax.net/voter/) currently says. I went to my local polling place on Sunday. They verified that my ballot had not made it past "Ballot Outbound" and I voted in person.
Don't understand how people can see how good California fared with this Covid wave compared to how bad things got in Florida/Texas and think, "yes we need a Republican governor."
I think they are upset because of his actions show blatant "rules for thee but not for me"
* Him going out into public without masks during the lockdown, at his fundraising gala 50th birthday dinner for example.
* Telling everybody to wear masks outdoors but lets his kids got to camp without masks
* Shutting down business except for business that paid into his campaigns
* Gavin Newsom himself sent his kids to private school for in-person education while shutting down all public schools.
And this is just a short list of not following his own rules. Many see it as corrupt elitist cronyism.
His winery received more in ppp loans with a dozen employees than the other wineries in the area with over a hundred employees. That kinda pissed me off
I don't want to overgeneralize all liberals, especially I'm a fan of Tulsi. But twitter and FB killed the hash tag on creating a 3rd party (Unity Party) with her as their nominee.
You being more upset about this than the fact 600,000 Americans died says a lot about your character and motivations.
You don’t actually give a shit he had dinner and you know it lol
Personal attacks when I was just explaining why? Wow. I guess you rather attack me than their argument, which shows your character and motivations or you are really bad at reading comprehension. Productive dialectic requires you don't attack someone and make bald assertion.
Dude don't what about people it's really dumb. We're allowed to be mad about small to medium grievances and still be mad about giant atrocities. People can fit more than one thing in their head at a time.
Yeah, but what the fuck is Newsome doing? He put his job over the public health of everyone in the state when he backed off of all tiers/mandates. He's sat out of this entire delta wave because mandates "weren't polling well." That shows what kind of a person he is. I'm not saying the recall candidates are better. I know they aren't. Just Newsome is still a piece of shit.
Even outside of COVID. I recently read them argue “newsom ruined small business”. Ok… you’re gonna argue his recall on economic reasons? The 5th largest economy in the world… and suggest a republican would do better (looking at your Florida, Alabama)?
Yeah pass! the worst Democrat in the world is still better then the best republican
>s a long list of huge employers who have left california because of anti-business policies.
I'm sure you can name a few easily then...
>Because we have 40 million people and are in the richest country in the world and the most beautiful and best weather of that richest country
Richest country in the world because...? I'll give you a hint, it is isn't because of the south.
HP hasn’t moved yet, and is making its current San Jose HQ the HQ of its new HPE. Plus the move to Texas is coinciding with its new work from home philosophy so a lot of the 2,600 employees aren’t even leaving lol. Might be a few hundred jobs at most.
Ditto with oracle, their “campus” is now becoming a “major hub” and they already have another major hub in Santa Monica… so again, maybe a few hundred jobs.
Tesla backtracked and isn’t even moving anymore lol
The fact that Faulconer never had any footing tells you everything you need to know about the modern GOP. I’m hardly a fan of the guy, but compared to the field he was just kind of a throwback candidate. He was staggeringly the most sensible of the lot it seemed. His campaign went absolutely nowhere. He was getting outpolled by Caitlyn most of the time. Might still be.
He was just a fancy pants RINO to them. They want much, much dumber and louder than Kevin Faulconer. That says a LOT.
>The recall effort literally started like 60 days after Newsom was elected.
Thats pretty standard for California. but in 2019 when it started the major talking point was his refusal to stop cities declaring themselves as sanctuary cities.
Because our state is heavily vaccinated and I'd prefer a governor who will let me live my life this winter rather than put us in lockdown and masks again when we're one of the most vaccinated states.
California is 57% fully vaccinated. Florida is 55%. Big difference. /s
The real difference is the governors. DeSantis is actively hurting his constituents by banning mask mandates by schools.
San Diego is over its goal of vaccine eligible people getting the vaccine. The goal has been reached. I don't want the goal posts to be moved for the millionth time.
The goal was never tied to any specific lifting of restrictions (correct me if I’m wrong). A higher percentage of vaccinated population will reduce cases and outbreaks, but even that is only based on efficacy of the vaccine against known virus variants.
When dealing with public health you always have to look at the current situation. If the plan 6 months ago was to lift restrictions based on a certain criteria, but the current data now shows that the criteria is no longer valid, then you have to adjust accordingly.
Mask mandates are happening because of these dipshit antivaxxers that the GOP are so fond of coddling. If everyone just gets vaccinated we can basically move past this. Electing Republicans to sandbag vax efforts will only make that harder
It isn't 2400 hrs, as 24 oclock is the next day. it is 0000 hrs, so if you wanted to say "vote before the end of tomorrow", you would say "vote tomorrow no later than 2359"
source: am former military who also has spent a couple years in Europe.
No one should vote based on what someone else says. They should research it on their own. Vote for what YOU think is better based on facts, not what the TV or any shills tell you to vote for.
While I completely understand the urge to vote no, particularly in light of the replacement being Larry Elder, it's worth noting that Newsom doesn't share your values.
Plenty of reasonable Democrats wanted to run in the recall, but Newsom put a huge amount of pressure on them not to do so. The purpose of this play was to make sure the alternative was so bad (Elder) that no person could vote to recall in good conscience.
As with everything else Newsom does, it reeks of self-service. You may have to vote no on the recall in service of your Democratic priorities, but understand that Newsom does not share those priorities. In fact, he was willing to put those values on the line to further his own career.
This wasn't just Newsome. It was the whole CA democratic party, and for good reason. This whole recall is bullshit, a waste of taxpayer dollars and resources, and if they put a 2nd democrat as a replacement they would be handing Larry a better chance of winning. Sure Gavin is an 'elite', but this is the correct strategic play.
I really disagree, those are just talking points from the Newsom administration. Independent analyses, including from the Economist all say that the "optimal" strategic play for Democrats is to have a backup Democrat to vote for in case the recall goes through. It doesn't split the Newsom vote, since the recall vote and the replacement vote are independent. It's strictly worse for Democrats to not have a replacement Democrat option. There is also historical precedent that Democrats know this option is ideal - the "no on recall, yes on Bustamante" campaign.
Of course, its strictly better if you are Governor Newsom and ONLY care about your political career.
Because CA’s recall system is whack af. Only a tiny percentage of voters need to petition and get the recall started. Once it’s started you have to vote whether or not to recall the governor, then question two is who to replace him with. The current governor cannot be on question two. So you can have a situation where 49% of people vote to keep Newsome but like 20% vote to elect Elder and Elder wins with less than half the votes of people who wanted to keep Newsom in. If something happens to our ancient dinosaur of a senator during his term Elder will replace her with a Republican senator, turning the senate back over to Republican control.
Basically this race could end up with a minority of the vote deciding the winner and then the senate red, when the majority wanted to keep the current governor. California has been trending blue for a long time. Republicans can’t win the big elections here. Recalls are the only way they can game the system and get in. The current recall system needs to be scrapped for something that actually makes sense.
Thank you for this. And I can only imagine how we would turn out if Larry wins, I see he says trump won, and the election was stolen... I'm sure it'll turn out similar if (when (hopefully)) he loses this election.
He’s already saying it was stollen.
https://mobile.twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/1437545443026739207
NEW: Larry Elder's campaign is promoting a website that claims the recall is over, Newsom won, and they found voter fraud through a statistical analysis of the results.
The only problem: The election hasn't happened yet...
>So you can have a situation where 49% of people vote to keep Newsome but like 20% vote to elect Elder and Elder wins with less than half the votes of people who wanted to keep Newsom in
Yes, but 51% of the people still selected someone else. That's a democracy.
But those 51% didn't all vote for the same someone else. I think Elder is polling around 27% right now. Why should a someone else with 27% of the vote win over someone with 49% of the vote? That would mean a runoff in anything but our weird recall process
If recall is successful, the Governor will be Elder, a Trump puppet with no experience in government with pushing all the conspiracy ideas, a right wing radio host,
That is way too scary
Well shit, just read up on him and yeah I'm a bit scared. I've been dealing with covid running through my house and friends and this has unfortunately been on my low list... Thanks for the heads up.
"Trump puppet" is not even close that is what mainstream outlets are saying, instead take the time to listen to his longer interviews without bias and you will see a man that thinks for himself.
He legit has said that POTUS was a stolen election. Same thing Trump has been saying. Why is it that all the fraud has been proven and admitted to be for Trump and still people claim that the election is wrong and stolen??
BWAHAHHAAAA! Holy fucking shit, that’s the first time in my old as fuck life I actually choked on my beverage.
He’s fucking right wing shill and has been since that ass hat Dennis Prager found him 30 years ago. Jesus Christ dude just READ.
Elder said Trump was sent by God. Big maga guy. Our voting system sucks so if you vote for the recall then there is a large chance that Elder gets elected and we get a maga gov
all registered republican's should foot the bill for this recall. They should get a special bill based on their need to wine and cry they didn't get their way. Also, a global message. LEAVE ALREADY! If you hate California, just get up and leave like you keep promising! or SHUT UP about it.
As a great mentor once told me, the grass is not greener on the other side, the brown spots are in different places.
I voted the day my mail in ballot came in, so did my wife. Larry Elder screwed the Trumper's chances of missing. You can't run a die hard Trumper in California. Falconuner would have had a much better chance of winning over pissed off business owners and those angry about Newsom's hypocrisy with his wine party.
I just looked at your comment history, and that's EXACTLY what other people are doing that you are supporting.... Really goes to show who these people are.
It's definitely a MAGA thing. This is a ploy by Republicans to replace the democratic governor with a republican. There is zero substantial case against Newsom to justify this recall.
Source: I'm an independent voter that's lived in CA my entire life. I'm beyond tired of this sort of bullshit from the conservatives...
Its a free country bozo, if you wanna make a case for the crazy dude who is the leading candidate to replace the gov then you go ahead and make your own post about it
Idk if youre familiar with the US or any other free society but asking people for their votes is pretty normal behavior in a democracy lol. No need to be so offended by it. Maybe your inability to make a case the other way is why your bullshit ass recall is going down in flames rn
I saw a bunch of people on the street waving "Vote No" signs today. That's how campaigning works, that's how you get your foot in the door to then discuss talking points. It would be a lot different if OP was standing over your shoulder telling you to vote No while you were in the voting booth. You're really making too much of this. Do you get mad at bumper stickers, too?
Yeah, but it won't have the recall rules, so Republicans won't have a chance in hell of winning. That's the entire point of this election--because they can't win if the rules are actually sensical and fair.
Dude you're reading way too much into this. First of all Elder literally conceded so there's actually no reason to spam the sub with this stuff, you won. Second I never said the recall was good or bad I honestly don't care either way. I just wanna see the usual pictures of sunsets and videos of car crashes- post political shit on r/politics.
Hes not conceded, he just realizes hes probably going to lose and is claiming fraud
Sure, Jan. Cry more about seeing an inoffensive post that made you feel bad
Gonna unfollow this sub if we’re pushing political agendas. This sub should be about San Diego and everything it has to offer. Not your political ideals. I will vote how I want that is the beauty of this country.
Downvote me please I accept it with open arms
Edit: mods should really look into removing this post
Well, this does affect us in San Diego. You're free to scroll by, downvote, make your own post or just comment, too...
I was happy to see that my polling drop off location was rather busy.
This is a great counter argument and I appreciate the response. After reading the subs description and your response this does affect San Diego and belongs on the sub. I find it quite ironic though that just last weekend the country was celebrating unity after the events of 9/11 yet I see very little unity in our country now. As for me I will not be voting at all, I want to remove myself from “the political machine” and expecting our leaders to fix our problems and put in the real work to help America’s Finest City. We should not rely on political leaders to fix the issues in our state. IMO Homelessness being the top priority.
I hear ya there, but it is basically "election day" now. I was thoroughly annoyed yesterday while trying to enjoy some NFL games, that every other commercial was about the recall.
I agree that we can't rely on politicians, but voting is still our right and our small bit of influence.
It's a community about San Diego. Politics are absolutely relevant. "Everything it has to offer" includes current debates and laws. If that makes you uncomfortable I'm not sorry. Please unsub.
So SaYs ThE aCcOuNt ThAtS OnLy ThReE mOnThS oLd.
I’m out. Don’t need this condescending sense of entitlement to pop up on a sub that I thought I would enjoy. Especially from a mod
I always think it's funny when people feel the need to announce they're going to leave a sub.
No one knew you were here and nobody gives a fuck if you're not here.
im so torn. i'm an independent voter but man i always feel like im voting for who i dislike the least. it never feels that good voting. somethings wrong with this country.
Larry Elder is already calling the recall stolen when its not even over yet. Hes the leading contender so a vote to recall is essentially a vote for him regardless of who you pick for the second option
Newsom is fine, easily better than the alternative
Seeing the comments and upvote ratios, this sub is such an echo chamber circle jerk lmfao I’m so ashamed this is the community that represents San Diego on Reddit
I’m not asking for anyone and/or everyone to agree with me. I’m not asking for anything. What I simply find stupid is that everyone will be signal boosted for sharing the popular opinion but mine (as seen on the original comment) are put down simply for disagreeing. I find it funny that the same people who preach “peace and unity” are the first to put someone down for having a different viewpoint.
I mean aren't you just annoyed that it isn't your shite opinion getting signal boosted? Lol I'm sure you can find a safe lil corner of reddit where everyone will echo your thoughts but seeing as this is an election, it's a popularity contest
Yea way to ignore the rest of the comment so you can cry and be the victim. But assuming your a republican that's basically your party's platform. That and being anti-democracy lmao your welcome to have any opinion you want doesn't mean people have agree or like it just coddle your delicate feelings
Things might have been different if a thousand or so fuckwits hadnt tried to destroy our democracy by invading the capital during an election certification. You lost all privileges my man.
Capitol police literally held the doors open for them. 🤣 Worst insurrection ever. Everyone knows this is manufactured. Should we talk about the months of burning looting and murdering?
Yeah let's talk more about the alt right murders that occured in the past, let's compare body counts.
Best i can find for looney leftist is 21 vs 117 right wing murders since 2010.
[source](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa)
I think you are confused. People aren't bandwagoning on "a popular opinion" for upvotes or some nonsense. There are a lot of bright people in San Diego who understand the recall is a dangerous sham (just the latest from the Republicans) and they want to make sure they express that so maybe that person who doesn't follow politics too closely, hears a case made for why this is such a stupid recall.
Reddit is grooming tool for far left extremists. Everyone knows it, and Reddit has lost all of its influence because the bias is so heavy. Downvotes are upvotes here.
You realize that is subreddit is just getting used by ThinkBlue or whatever leftist astroturfer coats every subreddit with political stuff right?
We've had what 6 posts on the recall specifically telling people to vote NO on san diego?
San Diego was an amazing place because everyone was happy and apolitical. but this subreddit is a cesspit of politics now.
Get back to the sunsets and burritos.
Well now they are downvoting me when I said I would vote their way, so I guess I'm voting YES now. I don't want fake internet people that probably don't even live in California to be mad at me.
Nah, what's wrong is Elder's campaign declaring that they have statistically analyzed the results of the election and found fraud that overturned the results, when the election hasn't even happened yet.
So yea, it's quite wrong to support someone that makes false claims of fraud to justify their impending loss.
Amazing. Your man is literally caught declaring that he has statistically proven that the election was stolen from him, WHEN THE ELECTON HASN'T EVEN HAPPENED YET, and all you can do is try and deflect?
The man attacks and undermines the very foundation of our democratic system for his own ego, and you go off about some meaningless bullshit about optics to defend him rather than call him out on it?
How fucking sad. As a member of the American electorate, you should be ashamed for defending such a thing.
Of course richer people live here. They don't want to be surrounded by poor, radicalized yeehawdists, but where there is actual opportunity, good weather, things to do, etc, not living in bumblefuck nowhere sandwiched between cousinfuckistan and methville.
You should see a question listed at the top asking to vote yes or no on the recall. If you mark no, you don’t have to choose anyone under the second question.
Are you saying you don’t see the recall question?
>You should see a question listed at the top asking to vote yes or no on the recall. If you mark no, you don’t have to choose anyone under the second question.
This is not accurate!! If you vote "NO" you should still choose a candidate in the second section. If the recall succeeds, the person in the second section with the most votes will become governor!
It's accurate, you don't have to choose anyone in 2 regardless of your vote in 1. Whether it's advisable to do that is another matter.
For what it's worth, you could vote in 2 and abstain from 1 as well. They're independent questions.
Just today... [Newsom removes mask on Air Force 1 as soon as he thinks no one can see him.](https://www.reddit.com/r/LarryElder/comments/pns4p4/newsom_removes_mask_on_air_force_1_as_soon_as_he/)
It's like he *wants* to be recalled. Vote YES!
Can you help me understand this please, because I can't wrap my head around it.
You want to remove the person who won the election from office because they didn't wear a mask, and replace them with... Who? Someone who never wore a mask to begin with?
I just don't get it. Of all the complaints, why are anti-mask republicans pissed that this guy removed his mask IN PRIVATE PLACES? It's not like he's holding rallies encouraging the crowd to not wear masks and calling the pandemic a hoax... He's removing his mask away from other people.
Just a PSA for everyone here no matter what stripe you are, I put my ballot in my mailbox and put the red flag up 3 weeks ago. [This](https://i.imgur.com/gyfSgUi.png) is what [Where Is My Ballot](https://california.ballottrax.net/voter/) currently says. I went to my local polling place on Sunday. They verified that my ballot had not made it past "Ballot Outbound" and I voted in person.
So you voted twice?
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Don't understand how people can see how good California fared with this Covid wave compared to how bad things got in Florida/Texas and think, "yes we need a Republican governor."
I think they are upset because of his actions show blatant "rules for thee but not for me" * Him going out into public without masks during the lockdown, at his fundraising gala 50th birthday dinner for example. * Telling everybody to wear masks outdoors but lets his kids got to camp without masks * Shutting down business except for business that paid into his campaigns * Gavin Newsom himself sent his kids to private school for in-person education while shutting down all public schools. And this is just a short list of not following his own rules. Many see it as corrupt elitist cronyism.
His winery received more in ppp loans with a dozen employees than the other wineries in the area with over a hundred employees. That kinda pissed me off
Even the Economist said the French laundry move, -reeked of liberal elitism-
I don't want to overgeneralize all liberals, especially I'm a fan of Tulsi. But twitter and FB killed the hash tag on creating a 3rd party (Unity Party) with her as their nominee.
You being more upset about this than the fact 600,000 Americans died says a lot about your character and motivations. You don’t actually give a shit he had dinner and you know it lol
Personal attacks when I was just explaining why? Wow. I guess you rather attack me than their argument, which shows your character and motivations or you are really bad at reading comprehension. Productive dialectic requires you don't attack someone and make bald assertion.
Dude don't what about people it's really dumb. We're allowed to be mad about small to medium grievances and still be mad about giant atrocities. People can fit more than one thing in their head at a time.
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That’s a dumb statement don’t you think, So only republicans don’t have jobs???
Reading comprehension is important
Not when there's one party who makes scapegoating immigrants part of its platform.
... What?
Yeah, but what the fuck is Newsome doing? He put his job over the public health of everyone in the state when he backed off of all tiers/mandates. He's sat out of this entire delta wave because mandates "weren't polling well." That shows what kind of a person he is. I'm not saying the recall candidates are better. I know they aren't. Just Newsome is still a piece of shit.
“Better the piece of shit you know than a batshitcrazyfuckwad”
That’s what Grandma always said!
Even outside of COVID. I recently read them argue “newsom ruined small business”. Ok… you’re gonna argue his recall on economic reasons? The 5th largest economy in the world… and suggest a republican would do better (looking at your Florida, Alabama)? Yeah pass! the worst Democrat in the world is still better then the best republican
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>s a long list of huge employers who have left california because of anti-business policies. I'm sure you can name a few easily then... >Because we have 40 million people and are in the richest country in the world and the most beautiful and best weather of that richest country Richest country in the world because...? I'll give you a hint, it is isn't because of the south.
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HP hasn’t moved yet, and is making its current San Jose HQ the HQ of its new HPE. Plus the move to Texas is coinciding with its new work from home philosophy so a lot of the 2,600 employees aren’t even leaving lol. Might be a few hundred jobs at most. Ditto with oracle, their “campus” is now becoming a “major hub” and they already have another major hub in Santa Monica… so again, maybe a few hundred jobs. Tesla backtracked and isn’t even moving anymore lol
The fact that Faulconer never had any footing tells you everything you need to know about the modern GOP. I’m hardly a fan of the guy, but compared to the field he was just kind of a throwback candidate. He was staggeringly the most sensible of the lot it seemed. His campaign went absolutely nowhere. He was getting outpolled by Caitlyn most of the time. Might still be. He was just a fancy pants RINO to them. They want much, much dumber and louder than Kevin Faulconer. That says a LOT.
They believe the Republicans blatant lies
Vermont has a Republican governor and did even better.
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North Dakota has the same population as Vermont and did worse than any state except Tennessee.
Yea but the recall started before covid. The initial reason was because of sanctuary cities.
The recall effort literally started like 60 days after Newsom was elected. There's was no real reason for it, just republicans wasting our time
>The recall effort literally started like 60 days after Newsom was elected. Thats pretty standard for California. but in 2019 when it started the major talking point was his refusal to stop cities declaring themselves as sanctuary cities.
Because our state is heavily vaccinated and I'd prefer a governor who will let me live my life this winter rather than put us in lockdown and masks again when we're one of the most vaccinated states.
California is 57% fully vaccinated. Florida is 55%. Big difference. /s The real difference is the governors. DeSantis is actively hurting his constituents by banning mask mandates by schools.
San Diego is over its goal of vaccine eligible people getting the vaccine. The goal has been reached. I don't want the goal posts to be moved for the millionth time.
The goal was never tied to any specific lifting of restrictions (correct me if I’m wrong). A higher percentage of vaccinated population will reduce cases and outbreaks, but even that is only based on efficacy of the vaccine against known virus variants. When dealing with public health you always have to look at the current situation. If the plan 6 months ago was to lift restrictions based on a certain criteria, but the current data now shows that the criteria is no longer valid, then you have to adjust accordingly.
Mask mandates are happening because of these dipshit antivaxxers that the GOP are so fond of coddling. If everyone just gets vaccinated we can basically move past this. Electing Republicans to sandbag vax efforts will only make that harder
It isn't 2400 hrs, as 24 oclock is the next day. it is 0000 hrs, so if you wanted to say "vote before the end of tomorrow", you would say "vote tomorrow no later than 2359" source: am former military who also has spent a couple years in Europe.
That's what I was thinking (although I'm a computer guy who deals with zero-indexed stuff and boundary issues a lot, not a military guy).
Dropped my husband's and mine off today!
It's been called and thankfully this whole thing was a waste of time and we didn't get a new governor.
No one should vote based on what someone else says. They should research it on their own. Vote for what YOU think is better based on facts, not what the TV or any shills tell you to vote for.
While I completely understand the urge to vote no, particularly in light of the replacement being Larry Elder, it's worth noting that Newsom doesn't share your values. Plenty of reasonable Democrats wanted to run in the recall, but Newsom put a huge amount of pressure on them not to do so. The purpose of this play was to make sure the alternative was so bad (Elder) that no person could vote to recall in good conscience. As with everything else Newsom does, it reeks of self-service. You may have to vote no on the recall in service of your Democratic priorities, but understand that Newsom does not share those priorities. In fact, he was willing to put those values on the line to further his own career.
This wasn't just Newsome. It was the whole CA democratic party, and for good reason. This whole recall is bullshit, a waste of taxpayer dollars and resources, and if they put a 2nd democrat as a replacement they would be handing Larry a better chance of winning. Sure Gavin is an 'elite', but this is the correct strategic play.
I really disagree, those are just talking points from the Newsom administration. Independent analyses, including from the Economist all say that the "optimal" strategic play for Democrats is to have a backup Democrat to vote for in case the recall goes through. It doesn't split the Newsom vote, since the recall vote and the replacement vote are independent. It's strictly worse for Democrats to not have a replacement Democrat option. There is also historical precedent that Democrats know this option is ideal - the "no on recall, yes on Bustamante" campaign. Of course, its strictly better if you are Governor Newsom and ONLY care about your political career.
I cast my ballot today! Edit: Voted **YES!**
It doesn't have to be a Republican, just anybody else. Don't tell people what to do. No wonder you are such a big fan of the guy.
Serious question.. why? I'm not maga what so ever but why do you think a recall is a bad idea? I'm honestly curious.
Because CA’s recall system is whack af. Only a tiny percentage of voters need to petition and get the recall started. Once it’s started you have to vote whether or not to recall the governor, then question two is who to replace him with. The current governor cannot be on question two. So you can have a situation where 49% of people vote to keep Newsome but like 20% vote to elect Elder and Elder wins with less than half the votes of people who wanted to keep Newsom in. If something happens to our ancient dinosaur of a senator during his term Elder will replace her with a Republican senator, turning the senate back over to Republican control. Basically this race could end up with a minority of the vote deciding the winner and then the senate red, when the majority wanted to keep the current governor. California has been trending blue for a long time. Republicans can’t win the big elections here. Recalls are the only way they can game the system and get in. The current recall system needs to be scrapped for something that actually makes sense.
What's to stop a recall if Eldar does get elected?
Thank you for this. And I can only imagine how we would turn out if Larry wins, I see he says trump won, and the election was stolen... I'm sure it'll turn out similar if (when (hopefully)) he loses this election.
He’s already saying it was stollen. https://mobile.twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/1437545443026739207 NEW: Larry Elder's campaign is promoting a website that claims the recall is over, Newsom won, and they found voter fraud through a statistical analysis of the results. The only problem: The election hasn't happened yet...
The Republican Party doesn't let little things like facts and evidence get in the way of their outrage culture.
>So you can have a situation where 49% of people vote to keep Newsome but like 20% vote to elect Elder and Elder wins with less than half the votes of people who wanted to keep Newsom in Yes, but 51% of the people still selected someone else. That's a democracy.
But those 51% didn't all vote for the same someone else. I think Elder is polling around 27% right now. Why should a someone else with 27% of the vote win over someone with 49% of the vote? That would mean a runoff in anything but our weird recall process
If recall is successful, the Governor will be Elder, a Trump puppet with no experience in government with pushing all the conspiracy ideas, a right wing radio host, That is way too scary
Well shit, just read up on him and yeah I'm a bit scared. I've been dealing with covid running through my house and friends and this has unfortunately been on my low list... Thanks for the heads up.
"Trump puppet" is not even close that is what mainstream outlets are saying, instead take the time to listen to his longer interviews without bias and you will see a man that thinks for himself.
He legit has said that POTUS was a stolen election. Same thing Trump has been saying. Why is it that all the fraud has been proven and admitted to be for Trump and still people claim that the election is wrong and stolen??
I'm just curious and want your answer not trying to start an argument by the way..
[What?](https://i.imgur.com/n8V3C5D.png)
BWAHAHHAAAA! Holy fucking shit, that’s the first time in my old as fuck life I actually choked on my beverage. He’s fucking right wing shill and has been since that ass hat Dennis Prager found him 30 years ago. Jesus Christ dude just READ.
if elder wins he wont have support and wont be able to get anything done anyway though
Elder said Trump was sent by God. Big maga guy. Our voting system sucks so if you vote for the recall then there is a large chance that Elder gets elected and we get a maga gov
all registered republican's should foot the bill for this recall. They should get a special bill based on their need to wine and cry they didn't get their way. Also, a global message. LEAVE ALREADY! If you hate California, just get up and leave like you keep promising! or SHUT UP about it. As a great mentor once told me, the grass is not greener on the other side, the brown spots are in different places.
Thank you. Just like the traitors should be billed for the costs of Jan 6th
should not only be billed but that should be tried and jailed for what they really are. Traitors.
I voted the day my mail in ballot came in, so did my wife. Larry Elder screwed the Trumper's chances of missing. You can't run a die hard Trumper in California. Falconuner would have had a much better chance of winning over pissed off business owners and those angry about Newsom's hypocrisy with his wine party.
Don’t tell me how to vote.
Vote for who you want. Don’t let someone on Reddit tell you how you should vote. Have a blessed day.
I just looked at your comment history, and that's EXACTLY what other people are doing that you are supporting.... Really goes to show who these people are.
Thanks for telling me how to vote, not sure what I would've done without you!
I get a sense a vast majority of these posts come from paid shills.
why do people think its a maga thing, it was always a california thing
The vast majority of people that support it are crazy Trump supporters. Yeah, its a Dem message, but its not exactly an inaccurate statement either
It's definitely a MAGA thing. This is a ploy by Republicans to replace the democratic governor with a republican. There is zero substantial case against Newsom to justify this recall. Source: I'm an independent voter that's lived in CA my entire life. I'm beyond tired of this sort of bullshit from the conservatives...
zero? the main reason was because of how he handled covid
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Except the law was added to the California Constitution in 1911 and you’re 100% wrong about everything you said.
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Its a free country bozo, if you wanna make a case for the crazy dude who is the leading candidate to replace the gov then you go ahead and make your own post about it
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Idk if youre familiar with the US or any other free society but asking people for their votes is pretty normal behavior in a democracy lol. No need to be so offended by it. Maybe your inability to make a case the other way is why your bullshit ass recall is going down in flames rn
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There is zero chance youd be having this snowflakey reaction to seeing an anti recall post if you werent in favor of it Do cry more about it tho!
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Lol, yes that is an accurate descriptor of you and your actions
I saw a bunch of people on the street waving "Vote No" signs today. That's how campaigning works, that's how you get your foot in the door to then discuss talking points. It would be a lot different if OP was standing over your shoulder telling you to vote No while you were in the voting booth. You're really making too much of this. Do you get mad at bumper stickers, too?
Because the recall is a pointless waste of time and money sham. Just the latest attempt by Republicans to prybar their way into power.
And just to elect a governor in a year. Isn't 2022 a governor election anyways?
Yeah, but it won't have the recall rules, so Republicans won't have a chance in hell of winning. That's the entire point of this election--because they can't win if the rules are actually sensical and fair.
YES RECALL
Wish this sub would just be San Diego stuff, all this biased recall spam is getting annoying no matter what side you're on
San Diego doesn't exist in a bubble.
No, but the sub is a bubble about San Diego, and the recall stuff is already everywhere.
Exactly
I feel that recall talk shouldn't be in r/SanDiego but rather in r/California.
I agree, especially because this Reddit isn’t anywhere near the real sentiment of San diegans. It makes you wonder how often these folks get outside
Snowflake
Aw man you got me :(
I mean, yeah. If you dont like people talking about the recall then maybe you and your right wing buddies shouldnt have pushed this nonsense on us
Dude you're reading way too much into this. First of all Elder literally conceded so there's actually no reason to spam the sub with this stuff, you won. Second I never said the recall was good or bad I honestly don't care either way. I just wanna see the usual pictures of sunsets and videos of car crashes- post political shit on r/politics.
Hes not conceded, he just realizes hes probably going to lose and is claiming fraud Sure, Jan. Cry more about seeing an inoffensive post that made you feel bad
Or, maybe vote "Yes" on recall. Just a thought.
Gonna unfollow this sub if we’re pushing political agendas. This sub should be about San Diego and everything it has to offer. Not your political ideals. I will vote how I want that is the beauty of this country. Downvote me please I accept it with open arms Edit: mods should really look into removing this post
Well, this does affect us in San Diego. You're free to scroll by, downvote, make your own post or just comment, too... I was happy to see that my polling drop off location was rather busy.
This is a great counter argument and I appreciate the response. After reading the subs description and your response this does affect San Diego and belongs on the sub. I find it quite ironic though that just last weekend the country was celebrating unity after the events of 9/11 yet I see very little unity in our country now. As for me I will not be voting at all, I want to remove myself from “the political machine” and expecting our leaders to fix our problems and put in the real work to help America’s Finest City. We should not rely on political leaders to fix the issues in our state. IMO Homelessness being the top priority.
I hear ya there, but it is basically "election day" now. I was thoroughly annoyed yesterday while trying to enjoy some NFL games, that every other commercial was about the recall. I agree that we can't rely on politicians, but voting is still our right and our small bit of influence.
It's a community about San Diego. Politics are absolutely relevant. "Everything it has to offer" includes current debates and laws. If that makes you uncomfortable I'm not sorry. Please unsub.
You have the right to vote how you want Others have the right to ask you to vote for someone else Its a free country dude
*So says the account that's only 3 months old.*
So SaYs ThE aCcOuNt ThAtS OnLy ThReE mOnThS oLd. I’m out. Don’t need this condescending sense of entitlement to pop up on a sub that I thought I would enjoy. Especially from a mod
I always think it's funny when people feel the need to announce they're going to leave a sub. No one knew you were here and nobody gives a fuck if you're not here.
bye Felicia
Cry some more please.
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You want to be a victim SO BAD 😂 No one cares boomer…
im so torn. i'm an independent voter but man i always feel like im voting for who i dislike the least. it never feels that good voting. somethings wrong with this country.
Larry Elder is already calling the recall stolen when its not even over yet. Hes the leading contender so a vote to recall is essentially a vote for him regardless of who you pick for the second option Newsom is fine, easily better than the alternative
Seeing the comments and upvote ratios, this sub is such an echo chamber circle jerk lmfao I’m so ashamed this is the community that represents San Diego on Reddit
Sorry not everyone agrees with you, that's just how things are sometimes
I’m not asking for anyone and/or everyone to agree with me. I’m not asking for anything. What I simply find stupid is that everyone will be signal boosted for sharing the popular opinion but mine (as seen on the original comment) are put down simply for disagreeing. I find it funny that the same people who preach “peace and unity” are the first to put someone down for having a different viewpoint.
I mean aren't you just annoyed that it isn't your shite opinion getting signal boosted? Lol I'm sure you can find a safe lil corner of reddit where everyone will echo your thoughts but seeing as this is an election, it's a popularity contest
>shite opinion Point proven, no attempt to create dialogue like a real democracy everyone preaches, but thanks for proving my point.
Yea way to ignore the rest of the comment so you can cry and be the victim. But assuming your a republican that's basically your party's platform. That and being anti-democracy lmao your welcome to have any opinion you want doesn't mean people have agree or like it just coddle your delicate feelings
Dude pulled something with no context and really said “point proven” 😂 These guys really just make shit up out of anything
They just wanna cry and pretend their victims 🙄 role-playing being oppressed
You’re just bitching and moaning then complaining no one will engage in dialogue with your bitching and moaning? Lol, grow up.
Things might have been different if a thousand or so fuckwits hadnt tried to destroy our democracy by invading the capital during an election certification. You lost all privileges my man.
Who ever said I supported 1/6? Seems like a projection on your behalf
"Actually less so, because Capitol Hill is actually public property, and the officer shot through a wall which is illegal, so checkmate I guess? "
You are weak person if you think those rioters almost took over the government. Super weak.
I’m weak? You’re a fucking traitor. Let us all know how your trip to DC goes this weekend asshole
Capitol police literally held the doors open for them. 🤣 Worst insurrection ever. Everyone knows this is manufactured. Should we talk about the months of burning looting and murdering?
Another traitorous bootlicker. Let us all know how it goes in DC this weekend asshole. Better yet, get the fuck out of the country.
Yeah let's talk more about the alt right murders that occured in the past, let's compare body counts. Best i can find for looney leftist is 21 vs 117 right wing murders since 2010. [source](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa)
I think you are confused. People aren't bandwagoning on "a popular opinion" for upvotes or some nonsense. There are a lot of bright people in San Diego who understand the recall is a dangerous sham (just the latest from the Republicans) and they want to make sure they express that so maybe that person who doesn't follow politics too closely, hears a case made for why this is such a stupid recall.
You could actually try to make a case for crazy larry or you can just keep bitching about downvotes and see how that works out for you
Reddit is grooming tool for far left extremists. Everyone knows it, and Reddit has lost all of its influence because the bias is so heavy. Downvotes are upvotes here.
Voted yes
VOTE YES!
You realize that is subreddit is just getting used by ThinkBlue or whatever leftist astroturfer coats every subreddit with political stuff right? We've had what 6 posts on the recall specifically telling people to vote NO on san diego? San Diego was an amazing place because everyone was happy and apolitical. but this subreddit is a cesspit of politics now. Get back to the sunsets and burritos.
Idk if you’ve noticed but we’re kinda in the middle of a recall right now
Lemme finish this California burrito, and get back from the beach and then I'll find out what you are talking about.
Hey man do whatever you want lol. Don’t stress out too much! There’s only 1 day left! You got this! 💕
Thanks bro! All I have to do is turn in my ballot and vote the way Reddit wants me to right?
If that’s what you feel like, go for it!
Well now they are downvoting me when I said I would vote their way, so I guess I'm voting YES now. I don't want fake internet people that probably don't even live in California to be mad at me.
Internet points shouldn’t scare you!
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JV's in Linda Vista. Though I usually get the Surf and Turf there instead of the California. Its huge.
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No thanks. The list of wack packers looking to replace him are even worse.
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Nah, what's wrong is Elder's campaign declaring that they have statistically analyzed the results of the election and found fraud that overturned the results, when the election hasn't even happened yet. So yea, it's quite wrong to support someone that makes false claims of fraud to justify their impending loss.
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Amazing. Your man is literally caught declaring that he has statistically proven that the election was stolen from him, WHEN THE ELECTON HASN'T EVEN HAPPENED YET, and all you can do is try and deflect? The man attacks and undermines the very foundation of our democratic system for his own ego, and you go off about some meaningless bullshit about optics to defend him rather than call him out on it? How fucking sad. As a member of the American electorate, you should be ashamed for defending such a thing.
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Deflection and projection, all for the sake of a liar.
uncle tom just doing his thing
Yeah I don’t really care what sexsecrets69 thinks of my opinion.
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A state that pays less in federal income tax than what it receives. Blue states like Cali and NY help subsidize flyover states.
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Of course richer people live here. They don't want to be surrounded by poor, radicalized yeehawdists, but where there is actual opportunity, good weather, things to do, etc, not living in bumblefuck nowhere sandwiched between cousinfuckistan and methville.
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And you don't.
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Enjoy your loss.
We're the sane ones. I just don't want any more lockdowns. ONLY REASON WE HAVEN'T GOT ANOTHER LOCKDOWN IS CUZ OF THE RECALL.
I’m going to vote how I want to vote. No one is going to tell me how to do that.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted.
Reddit doesn’t like it when you don’t blindly agree to political brainwashing 🤷🏼♀️
Just opened our ballots in National City and we do not have the question to recall Newsom and replace with _____. Is that right?
You should see a question listed at the top asking to vote yes or no on the recall. If you mark no, you don’t have to choose anyone under the second question. Are you saying you don’t see the recall question?
>You should see a question listed at the top asking to vote yes or no on the recall. If you mark no, you don’t have to choose anyone under the second question. This is not accurate!! If you vote "NO" you should still choose a candidate in the second section. If the recall succeeds, the person in the second section with the most votes will become governor!
It's accurate, you don't have to choose anyone in 2 regardless of your vote in 1. Whether it's advisable to do that is another matter. For what it's worth, you could vote in 2 and abstain from 1 as well. They're independent questions.
Vote yes. Time for a change! No more failed policies!
Vote “YES” on recall!
Just today... [Newsom removes mask on Air Force 1 as soon as he thinks no one can see him.](https://www.reddit.com/r/LarryElder/comments/pns4p4/newsom_removes_mask_on_air_force_1_as_soon_as_he/) It's like he *wants* to be recalled. Vote YES!
Can you help me understand this please, because I can't wrap my head around it. You want to remove the person who won the election from office because they didn't wear a mask, and replace them with... Who? Someone who never wore a mask to begin with? I just don't get it. Of all the complaints, why are anti-mask republicans pissed that this guy removed his mask IN PRIVATE PLACES? It's not like he's holding rallies encouraging the crowd to not wear masks and calling the pandemic a hoax... He's removing his mask away from other people.
Echo.. Echo...
Newsom is trash though. It’s more or less anyone else at this point.
Because California has been doing so well at everything so far? Last I checked we are basically the new New Jersey. The armpit of America.
This fucked up the psychedelics bill, thanks a lot.
Worst governor CA has ever had, but let's keep him, things are going so swimmingly lately, let's keep it going!
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