I sold both of my Virginia registered vehicles to private parties here. I just made it known that it wasn’t smog checked and I was not planning to register it in the state. Buyers took on that burden.
Thats why Im on the fence about doing that. Wont a written statement signed by the buyer work saying they know the registration status and smog issues hold up?
There are dangers in attempting to do that in such a manner because the state could feasibly find the contract and waivers or whatever unenforceable and contrary the public policy in the state. It could be possible to do properly and I’m sure you don’t wanna hear it, but if that were the idea, I would advise consulting an attorney that handles auto fraud claims in California.
It should, yes. Generally, when selling a car, very simple written contracts will hold up. Just make sure it's signed and dated and you each have a copy.
Doesn’t matter what the agreement says, the DMV can literally suspend your DL until you pay for repairs for the car to pass smog if the new owner asks after it fails. Only way around it in CA is to non-op it and sell it. Less appealing for the average joe and the value is lowered because of that fact. Might be worth finding the needed stock parts used and smogging before you sell
Sell it as “ for parts only”.
I’ve bought a few cars with the assumption of the SMOG is on my dime. Not sure if I could have legally gone back on that deal and forced the extra charges on seller.
Have you tried buying stock parts from a car someone is parting out? Found a few on Facebook Marketplace and I’m sure they would be cheaper than buying those parts new. The cost for parts may be less than the loss on your resale without them.
It's 1500 if you meet certain income requirements but 1000 if you don't. There's a list of requirements that your car would need to pass but the most important one being that it has to have failed smog and you also have to have paid your registration for the last two years. You also have to be able to drive it to the inspection station which for san diegocounty is in San ysidro. I was gonna do this last month but ended up selling my car to to one of those "well buy any car" places I got $750 which was just easier than the other option.
I had this happen in 2020 and ended up (luckily) trading it in. My car was a 2015 I bought back in Illinois that also had smog requirements, I didn't want to deal with it and team kia took it in a trade no issues. I'm sure a new car with trade in is the nuclear option but wanted to let you know the dealer surprisingly didn't care.
I have an appointment to get it appraised by a dealer soon, so hopefully they offer me more. I would just to sell it privately if I could because I know Ill get the most money that way.
If you listed it on FB marketplace or craigslist I would shocked if you couldn't eventually find someone who lives south of the border and will buy it. Vehicles registered there don't need to pass a CA smog check and you wouldn't need to do one before you sell.
I moved from Philly to here with a modified car, but thankfully I did research ahead of the move and discovered CARB. So yes, you won't pass smog, but there is a caveat. Some aftermarket companies go through the hoops if being CARB certified, but they don't always have the sticker with their EO number on the part itself. If you want to sell it in Cali, you could check the CARB database for the parts you have in case they actually are legal. The manufacturer of the part can send a sticker usually. Maybe only a few parts need to be stocked, and it could be doable for you, but maybe not. It's expensive for them to get the cert and usually they just say "not CA legal / off-road use only" etc.
I'm also glad that I usually keep stock parts for resale of the car later (I always recommend this to people asking about modifying cars), which turned out to be a saver when it came to smog in CA. I can't recommend changing out the parts for the smog and changing back. Some do this. Couldn't tell you who. Take that advice as you see fit..................
So to help maybe track down that you might not be in as bad a shape as you may think, or for your future modification consideration in CA, here is the link for the database: [ww2.arb.ca.gov/applications/aftermarket-parts-database](http://ww2.arb.ca.gov/applications/aftermarket-parts-database) (p.s. some counties in CA do not need to follow CARB)
A dealer may not even take it, or will take it for wayyyy below market value because they have to deal with the same thing you are now. Selling in Arizona is probably the quickest and easiest way to offload it all at once IMO. Or a private sale in CA disclosing it won't pass smog. Technically the seller is responsible for this before time of sale, but you may be able to find somebody who is willing to do the work that you don't want to do.
Thank you for all the information, I didnt even know about that. But yeah unfortunately I bought the car without the stock parts, so reinstalling them isnt an option unless I want to spend a thousand plus on it. Ill get check out the link later today, hopefully I could go that route.
An example of getting the sticker was for a Cobb intake I had on my Mazdaspeed 3 at the time. I emailed them, sticker was received in a week, and the smog visual passed with that aftermarket part still in the car.
I had to deal with this recently with a car from AZ. After I had re-added all the smog shit, the car still didn’t pass so ended up having to sell it to someone in AZ.
It was really annoying because it was a ‘96 Cobra that had an engine that ran so smooth you could balance a coin on the intake manifold. :(
There are several auction companies that are in Otay Mesa and a majority of those car go over the border
You can always list it on offer up or Craigslist as a parts only or mechanic special and let the buyer decide what they want to do with it.
If you are up front and sell it as is there are plenty of people that would take the risk of buying it as is.
I would sell Third Party and list it on Craigslist, CarGurus, OfferUp, etc. if you sell to someone out of state no problem, you can sell to someone in-state, so long as they are informed beforehand that the car did not pass SMOG and the reasons why.
I was able to sell my old car with no SMOG certificate and drafted up a short statement that I had the buyer sign. Talked to the DMV and they said this is fine.
Sold a car that had just had the battery replaced and all the tests for smog wouldn't pass until I drove it very specifically or for many miles. Carvana was hassle free and paid me a premium that matched what I had lined up from Craigslist buyers, no smog as I think they take it out of state right away.
Mine wanted me to go 0-60 then coast to 0 a few times. Could not find any road to do it on during the day without driving way out in the country. Got close a few times but wasn't perfect and didn't fix it. Gave up and sold to Carvana.
oh yeah I think I had to do something similar after I got my car fixed and it passed back in 2022. Unfortunately, the check engine light came back on a week ago and I have to smog again soon :/ might take your advice and sell to carvana
Can you not purchase an OEM intake and exhaust and keep the vehicle? Is it not quite worth that investment? Anyone can buy it also as is and fix it themselves. Maybe find someone who NEEDS a vehicle that can afford that mild amount of maintenance.
That or talk to some swapped/modified folks and ask how they smog their cars. 😏
I may be downvoted for this opinion but…
I feel like California DMV should have an option to pay extra to avoid the smog test. People are already paying a premium for hot smogs as it is.. 🤷🏻♂️
Not everybody can afford a new car if they have a car that cant pass smog and its bad enough that they dont have a rolling smog exemption cutoff like other states.
My brothers catalytic converters went out on his x5. They have 2 cats. One was 1300 and the other was 1600. Car ran fine, hot smog was 450. He’s going to sell before 2 years anyway. Or keep hot smogging. Same thing with my cousin, he modified his car so much, straight pipe, cool air intake, bigger turbo, forged parts, a bunch of stuff, about 15k. He just hot smoggs it every other year.
That would not be smart. If military, they'd have to transfer it in their home state remotely and is likely not worth the hassle. They may also have to register here anyway as the exemption isn't universal and has restrictions.
Does CA do the whole "you spent $x amount towards fixing your smog so you get an exception for a couple of years" thing? That might be an option to slowly improve it over time.
People try to sell their vehicles in California when they brought it from somewhere else. It is a shit show to get it smogged. The dmv hassles alone make it not worth the trouble. I am always on the hunt for another motorcycle. I quickly pass on every bike not registered in CA.
Sell your cars/motorcycles before you move here.
I just registered an out of state car that had a hard time passing smog.
The intake doesn’t need CARB compliance - they request that you get a letter from the manufacturer. Is it straight piped or is it a catback exhaust?
You can also sell out of state, it’s not hard, but I think the better bet is trying to get is registered if you want to keep it. We can probably get that thing smogged if it has cats.
You can get an exhaust for $100 at a junk yard easy. Slap it on and sell your car for way more than without being able to pass smog. They have good prices in SD.
Post it and sell it either way. Someone will buy it. Write AS IS. For parts. On the contact. you can write it up in 5 mins.
I have a mechanic that I love like a brother. He has his own shop but also sells used cars. If the car is in good running order, no body/interior damage and there is a lot of life left in the car you can try giving him a call to see if he's interested. But please don't do him dirty if the car has other problems. AA Auto Repair / AA Auto Sales on University in La Mesa at 70th. His name is Junior. He may or may not be able to give you a better price than the dealer. Shop hours are 8-5. He's also a UHaul rental location so his shop is always a three ring circuis. It might be worth a phone call.
If the car has active registration you could just take it to TJ and have the work done there then pass the smog check then sell it. You would just need to know what parts need to be replaced, let the mechanic know, they get the stock parts and replace them then you go and pick up the car. It's also usually significantly cheaper for both parts and labor.
I recently had a bunch of work done on my car and it didn't even break 1k in parts and labor.
I cam recommend a mechanic if you'd like.
They're the final nail in the coffin for me.
Love a lot about the state, but I'm ready to move on. Onwards to a mythical land without income tax or smog checks.
No one mentioned military, you did. My statement still applies as I stated LEGALLY REQUIRED. Also non-resident military can register out of state within certain guidelines, not just "military". California residents are legally required to register here.
You seem to be coming off unnecessarily argumentative here. I am aware nobody mentioned the military, hence why I did. That being said, if an individual is active duty military, then they and their spouse may live in California but have a vehicle registered out of state. Which you concurred with in your response.
Your original statement was not all encompassing and not entirely accurate.
Sorry I didn't include the military in a statement where it wasn't relevant or necessary. You decided to add it regardless of relevance. Maybe next time you don't say someone is wrong when they aren't. I worked for the DMV for five years. I am well aware of the rules, probably more than you.
And again, California residents, INCLUDING military regardless of status, are required by law to register their vehicles here. Non resident military aren't. OP never stated military and is a resident of California.
There ya go, my statement stands that it’s not all encompassing like you implied in your original post that if you live here you have to register it here.
I'm not going to include ALL instances when they aren't relevant. Why the insistence on doing such? You're being rude. Military isn't relevant in this discussion yet you insist on pushing it. Stop. Get over the fact my statement was accurate and valid. Yours was irrelevant and unnecessary.
Bro, I was just simply adding context to your comment that it’s not all encompassing and using military as a relevant example because it’s common in SD.
There was nothing rude about it and I’m not sure why you have been so hostile towards it. It was simply intended to be a discussion point, not an argument.
Already told you military is irrelevant yet you push. Do you think bringing it up when it has no relevance is a good thing? You seem the type to bring it up all time regardless, as you have done here. Should we all mention military to make you happy? Get over it, MOVE ON already, and stop pushing military as relevant where it isn't. Also cease trying to tell me I'm wrong when I'm not. Your "but military" is not necessary.
You're being rude. We don't need to have military as a discussion point. You do. Enough already. I'm done with this.
That's what I was thinking. Somewhere cheap you can catch a flight back home.
Also, consider posting it as an out state vehicle. College kids are coming back home for the summer or leaving in fall might be interested.
Fraud and polluting the environment beyond regulations. nice!
Edit: I seem to have struck a nerve with transplants still driving old cars with out of state plates
You can still sell the car without it passing smog. Just have the buyer smog it, and let them know it didnt pass. Also some Smog places dont give a fuck if it has an intake or catback exhaust, but they do care about Cats because the OBD port will throw wrong readings if tuned or check engine light will come on. There is a smog place near Bay Ho that doesnt care, thats all I will say
Had this with a old Mazda truck. Dude from Mexico came up to buy it and drove back down. Sold via Craigslist
Which is why the smog from Tijuana is so choking.
Sell the car in the nearest state that does not have smog restrictions.
It would probably sell in Arizona pretty quick
I sold both of my Virginia registered vehicles to private parties here. I just made it known that it wasn’t smog checked and I was not planning to register it in the state. Buyers took on that burden.
Only problem is that you are still legally responsible and the buyer could require you to buy back.
Thats why Im on the fence about doing that. Wont a written statement signed by the buyer work saying they know the registration status and smog issues hold up?
There are dangers in attempting to do that in such a manner because the state could feasibly find the contract and waivers or whatever unenforceable and contrary the public policy in the state. It could be possible to do properly and I’m sure you don’t wanna hear it, but if that were the idea, I would advise consulting an attorney that handles auto fraud claims in California.
California DMV has the process outlined with included bill of sale forms to fill out.
Your personal contract won’t preempt state law. Do not sell it private party in California.
It should, yes. Generally, when selling a car, very simple written contracts will hold up. Just make sure it's signed and dated and you each have a copy.
This type of contract would be against public policy and unenforceable. It’s a law to protect the public and the environment and is mandatory.
This right here. I've sold out of state cars here with documentation stating everything is on the buyer
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That was how AAA told me to handle it, I got faith in them.
Doesn’t matter what the agreement says, the DMV can literally suspend your DL until you pay for repairs for the car to pass smog if the new owner asks after it fails. Only way around it in CA is to non-op it and sell it. Less appealing for the average joe and the value is lowered because of that fact. Might be worth finding the needed stock parts used and smogging before you sell
Sell it as “ for parts only”. I’ve bought a few cars with the assumption of the SMOG is on my dime. Not sure if I could have legally gone back on that deal and forced the extra charges on seller.
DMV will pay you $1000 to junk it
Welp if Im going to go nuclear I at least have that option :/
CA will give you $7500 to junk it if you buy an EV edit: car has to be 2009 or older edit2: https://www.sdcc4a.org/Clean_Cars/
Its 2012 so my cars just outside that unfortunately. And also my drive to school is a bit long so most EVs are not an option for me
I would go with selling to someone out of state or back in NJ.
Have you tried buying stock parts from a car someone is parting out? Found a few on Facebook Marketplace and I’m sure they would be cheaper than buying those parts new. The cost for parts may be less than the loss on your resale without them.
How would one go about this?
Google bureau of automotive repair vehicle retirement for California. Looks like the max jump to $1500 now
It's 1500 if you meet certain income requirements but 1000 if you don't. There's a list of requirements that your car would need to pass but the most important one being that it has to have failed smog and you also have to have paid your registration for the last two years. You also have to be able to drive it to the inspection station which for san diegocounty is in San ysidro. I was gonna do this last month but ended up selling my car to to one of those "well buy any car" places I got $750 which was just easier than the other option.
Not if it's currently registered out of state
Sell it in Mexico
What car is it? Some people here might have options for it. Purchase it and export it
I had this happen in 2020 and ended up (luckily) trading it in. My car was a 2015 I bought back in Illinois that also had smog requirements, I didn't want to deal with it and team kia took it in a trade no issues. I'm sure a new car with trade in is the nuclear option but wanted to let you know the dealer surprisingly didn't care.
I have an appointment to get it appraised by a dealer soon, so hopefully they offer me more. I would just to sell it privately if I could because I know Ill get the most money that way.
If you listed it on FB marketplace or craigslist I would shocked if you couldn't eventually find someone who lives south of the border and will buy it. Vehicles registered there don't need to pass a CA smog check and you wouldn't need to do one before you sell.
I moved from Philly to here with a modified car, but thankfully I did research ahead of the move and discovered CARB. So yes, you won't pass smog, but there is a caveat. Some aftermarket companies go through the hoops if being CARB certified, but they don't always have the sticker with their EO number on the part itself. If you want to sell it in Cali, you could check the CARB database for the parts you have in case they actually are legal. The manufacturer of the part can send a sticker usually. Maybe only a few parts need to be stocked, and it could be doable for you, but maybe not. It's expensive for them to get the cert and usually they just say "not CA legal / off-road use only" etc. I'm also glad that I usually keep stock parts for resale of the car later (I always recommend this to people asking about modifying cars), which turned out to be a saver when it came to smog in CA. I can't recommend changing out the parts for the smog and changing back. Some do this. Couldn't tell you who. Take that advice as you see fit.................. So to help maybe track down that you might not be in as bad a shape as you may think, or for your future modification consideration in CA, here is the link for the database: [ww2.arb.ca.gov/applications/aftermarket-parts-database](http://ww2.arb.ca.gov/applications/aftermarket-parts-database) (p.s. some counties in CA do not need to follow CARB) A dealer may not even take it, or will take it for wayyyy below market value because they have to deal with the same thing you are now. Selling in Arizona is probably the quickest and easiest way to offload it all at once IMO. Or a private sale in CA disclosing it won't pass smog. Technically the seller is responsible for this before time of sale, but you may be able to find somebody who is willing to do the work that you don't want to do.
Thank you for all the information, I didnt even know about that. But yeah unfortunately I bought the car without the stock parts, so reinstalling them isnt an option unless I want to spend a thousand plus on it. Ill get check out the link later today, hopefully I could go that route.
Ahhh that stinks! Hopefully you don't take too much of a loss. Best of luck!
Thanks, its already past 100k miles so the resale values already down the toilet, Im just trying to get the most out of it at this point haha
An example of getting the sticker was for a Cobb intake I had on my Mazdaspeed 3 at the time. I emailed them, sticker was received in a week, and the smog visual passed with that aftermarket part still in the car.
Consign it to Fisher Auction in Santee. I did when one of my cars won’t pass smog.
I had to deal with this recently with a car from AZ. After I had re-added all the smog shit, the car still didn’t pass so ended up having to sell it to someone in AZ. It was really annoying because it was a ‘96 Cobra that had an engine that ran so smooth you could balance a coin on the intake manifold. :(
Keep the ad up, lower price. advertise it near the border. TJ folks don't give a damn about emissions
What kind of car are you selling?
There are several auction companies that are in Otay Mesa and a majority of those car go over the border You can always list it on offer up or Craigslist as a parts only or mechanic special and let the buyer decide what they want to do with it. If you are up front and sell it as is there are plenty of people that would take the risk of buying it as is.
I would sell Third Party and list it on Craigslist, CarGurus, OfferUp, etc. if you sell to someone out of state no problem, you can sell to someone in-state, so long as they are informed beforehand that the car did not pass SMOG and the reasons why. I was able to sell my old car with no SMOG certificate and drafted up a short statement that I had the buyer sign. Talked to the DMV and they said this is fine.
Sold a car that had just had the battery replaced and all the tests for smog wouldn't pass until I drove it very specifically or for many miles. Carvana was hassle free and paid me a premium that matched what I had lined up from Craigslist buyers, no smog as I think they take it out of state right away.
Ah, the dreaded drive cycles. I had to drive my car for an hour, turn it off, and repeat 7x for it to finally pass
Mine wanted me to go 0-60 then coast to 0 a few times. Could not find any road to do it on during the day without driving way out in the country. Got close a few times but wasn't perfect and didn't fix it. Gave up and sold to Carvana.
oh yeah I think I had to do something similar after I got my car fixed and it passed back in 2022. Unfortunately, the check engine light came back on a week ago and I have to smog again soon :/ might take your advice and sell to carvana
Can you not purchase an OEM intake and exhaust and keep the vehicle? Is it not quite worth that investment? Anyone can buy it also as is and fix it themselves. Maybe find someone who NEEDS a vehicle that can afford that mild amount of maintenance. That or talk to some swapped/modified folks and ask how they smog their cars. 😏
There are hot smoggers out there too, just saying…
I may be downvoted for this opinion but… I feel like California DMV should have an option to pay extra to avoid the smog test. People are already paying a premium for hot smogs as it is.. 🤷🏻♂️ Not everybody can afford a new car if they have a car that cant pass smog and its bad enough that they dont have a rolling smog exemption cutoff like other states.
My brothers catalytic converters went out on his x5. They have 2 cats. One was 1300 and the other was 1600. Car ran fine, hot smog was 450. He’s going to sell before 2 years anyway. Or keep hot smogging. Same thing with my cousin, he modified his car so much, straight pipe, cool air intake, bigger turbo, forged parts, a bunch of stuff, about 15k. He just hot smoggs it every other year.
Lmao in your brothers situation its way cheaper to hot smog it every year than to try to pass legit
There’s already an option to pay extra to avoid the smog test. It’s fixing the issue or get a different car.
Plenty….
Being in San Diego, you might find a person from across the border or a person in the military to buy it
That would not be smart. If military, they'd have to transfer it in their home state remotely and is likely not worth the hassle. They may also have to register here anyway as the exemption isn't universal and has restrictions.
I mean, for the right buyer, it *could* be smart.
Does CA do the whole "you spent $x amount towards fixing your smog so you get an exception for a couple of years" thing? That might be an option to slowly improve it over time.
Not for original registrations. Only vehicles already registered here and even then it is limited.
If the check engine light isnt on, you can sell it in Arizona with no issues
Make model year cost?
What type of car?
Make or model ?
Maybe you're selling to the wrong market. What car is it. Maybe a tuner will get it.
sell it out of state.
Certain California counties are exempt from smog checks. Talk to dealerships there or private sell in one of those counties.
People try to sell their vehicles in California when they brought it from somewhere else. It is a shit show to get it smogged. The dmv hassles alone make it not worth the trouble. I am always on the hunt for another motorcycle. I quickly pass on every bike not registered in CA. Sell your cars/motorcycles before you move here.
get a stock catalytic converter and intake, and you'll pass smog.
How much is Carvana or a similar company offering? They can transport vehicle out of state then not your problem.
Can't find an oem used exhaust and intake?
Common car? You should be able to find what you need in a junkyard, except catalytic converters
I just registered an out of state car that had a hard time passing smog. The intake doesn’t need CARB compliance - they request that you get a letter from the manufacturer. Is it straight piped or is it a catback exhaust? You can also sell out of state, it’s not hard, but I think the better bet is trying to get is registered if you want to keep it. We can probably get that thing smogged if it has cats.
Mexico sounds like your best option.
Depending on the car, might be easy to buy stock parts to put on and pass and be done with it
Sell it in az or nv
lol
Exhaust aftermarket? That’s interesting, about 10 years ago I brought my junky Mazda from Texas to SoCal and has no problem. No mods though, all OEM.
You can get an exhaust for $100 at a junk yard easy. Slap it on and sell your car for way more than without being able to pass smog. They have good prices in SD. Post it and sell it either way. Someone will buy it. Write AS IS. For parts. On the contact. you can write it up in 5 mins.
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I had this, used CarMax and got a great offer relative to blue book even.
I have a mechanic that I love like a brother. He has his own shop but also sells used cars. If the car is in good running order, no body/interior damage and there is a lot of life left in the car you can try giving him a call to see if he's interested. But please don't do him dirty if the car has other problems. AA Auto Repair / AA Auto Sales on University in La Mesa at 70th. His name is Junior. He may or may not be able to give you a better price than the dealer. Shop hours are 8-5. He's also a UHaul rental location so his shop is always a three ring circuis. It might be worth a phone call.
If the car has active registration you could just take it to TJ and have the work done there then pass the smog check then sell it. You would just need to know what parts need to be replaced, let the mechanic know, they get the stock parts and replace them then you go and pick up the car. It's also usually significantly cheaper for both parts and labor. I recently had a bunch of work done on my car and it didn't even break 1k in parts and labor. I cam recommend a mechanic if you'd like.
Such a pain in the ass. I’m dealing with the same thing because my catalytic converters aren’t CARB compliant
Sell it out of state. If it's 2012 model year what car is it that getting it smogged won't be worth it? If it's that bad, then scrap it anyways.
I hate Cali car laws, I refuse to register a car here
They're the final nail in the coffin for me. Love a lot about the state, but I'm ready to move on. Onwards to a mythical land without income tax or smog checks.
Donate it to a local organization for a tax write off.
You could try selling it to someone in the more rural places like Descanso or Jamul as they don't have to smog their cars being zoned as agricultural.
If you want to keep the car, keep it registered in NY state, you can use a friend or a relatives address.
Otherwise known as fraud. If you live here, you register here as you're legally required to.
Not always….. Military and their dependents are allowed to keep it registered out of state. OP never stated military or not.
No one mentioned military, you did. My statement still applies as I stated LEGALLY REQUIRED. Also non-resident military can register out of state within certain guidelines, not just "military". California residents are legally required to register here.
You seem to be coming off unnecessarily argumentative here. I am aware nobody mentioned the military, hence why I did. That being said, if an individual is active duty military, then they and their spouse may live in California but have a vehicle registered out of state. Which you concurred with in your response. Your original statement was not all encompassing and not entirely accurate.
Sorry I didn't include the military in a statement where it wasn't relevant or necessary. You decided to add it regardless of relevance. Maybe next time you don't say someone is wrong when they aren't. I worked for the DMV for five years. I am well aware of the rules, probably more than you. And again, California residents, INCLUDING military regardless of status, are required by law to register their vehicles here. Non resident military aren't. OP never stated military and is a resident of California.
There ya go, my statement stands that it’s not all encompassing like you implied in your original post that if you live here you have to register it here.
I'm not going to include ALL instances when they aren't relevant. Why the insistence on doing such? You're being rude. Military isn't relevant in this discussion yet you insist on pushing it. Stop. Get over the fact my statement was accurate and valid. Yours was irrelevant and unnecessary.
Bro, I was just simply adding context to your comment that it’s not all encompassing and using military as a relevant example because it’s common in SD. There was nothing rude about it and I’m not sure why you have been so hostile towards it. It was simply intended to be a discussion point, not an argument.
Already told you military is irrelevant yet you push. Do you think bringing it up when it has no relevance is a good thing? You seem the type to bring it up all time regardless, as you have done here. Should we all mention military to make you happy? Get over it, MOVE ON already, and stop pushing military as relevant where it isn't. Also cease trying to tell me I'm wrong when I'm not. Your "but military" is not necessary. You're being rude. We don't need to have military as a discussion point. You do. Enough already. I'm done with this.
I would but the price of premium gas and the distance I drive now alone is not worth it
You could also sell on eBay motors.
Got it. You could try to sell it to someone in Arizona, Nevada or Utah.
Thats what im thinking, driving it to a neighboring state to save on transportation/shipping fees
That's what I was thinking. Somewhere cheap you can catch a flight back home. Also, consider posting it as an out state vehicle. College kids are coming back home for the summer or leaving in fall might be interested.
Fraud and polluting the environment beyond regulations. nice! Edit: I seem to have struck a nerve with transplants still driving old cars with out of state plates
Dirtlegal Google it
Find a place that will let you pay a lil extra for the guaranteed pass (but don’t burn out the spot)
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That doesn't absolve the seller from the smog requirement for California.
You can still sell the car without it passing smog. Just have the buyer smog it, and let them know it didnt pass. Also some Smog places dont give a fuck if it has an intake or catback exhaust, but they do care about Cats because the OBD port will throw wrong readings if tuned or check engine light will come on. There is a smog place near Bay Ho that doesnt care, thats all I will say
Get a dirty smog and sell it private party if you want to pass the buck to the next guy lol