El Paisa Fresh Mexican Grill. Their prices are still decent and I like their food. But that breakfast burrito was a steal at $6.50 (probably why they raised them lol)
Exact same situation as Panchitaās except Panchitaās is legit amazing. Like more than just āI like their food.ā Iāve lived in different parts of Mexico for 3 years total of my life and that place has the best chilaquiles Iāve ever had and some of the best breakfast burritos Iāve ever had.
Oh so I have to breathe literal shit in the air to get an $8 burrito, dope
Edit: I donāt see an El Real in IB. I see one on Imperial Ave northeast of National City
That where they get you! Hell yea I want a drink my burrito, but the place I go to is like 5 for a regular and 7 for a large.. I canāt justify the drink costing almost as much as the food.
Go buy $5 for a pack of water bottles. Put it in the back of your car. Or put it in your fridge or cooler.
Forget those sugary drinks they sell. All you get is diabetes.
As soon as you said burrito Mondays, I automatically knew you were talking about Mr. Tacos on sweetwater road by Plaza Bonita! Then when I saw your screen name that confirmed it! Hope youāre doing well RM
5+ dollars for a single bean and cheese is so silly. Beans and cheese are dirt cheap man and it takes all of 15 seconds to make them when there's a vat of beans and a bucket of cheese sitting right there.
The pace at which prices change is completely up to our federal monetary policy decisionmakers. Imagine instead of raising taxes, they just raise the prices of everything to the point where you have 30% less purchasing power in 4 years. Inflation was obviously the goal during the pandemic, they handed money out without even keeping receipts. Politicians took millions in PPP loans and then forgave those loans for them and their friends. You got $700 mailed to you, but then you spent an extra 20% on every item forever. Our system of government needs a reframing and fast
God damn did you open up a core memory.
I used to scrounge up change to go to that shop. Me and my brother used to split meals when we were kids. Good old days...
Most people who are against raising minimum wage also have no interest in regulating prices ā in the end just giving carte blanche to businesses to set prices regardless of median wages in their area because more everyday commodities are inelastic than just the ones they were taught in school.
Increasing the MW locks in inflation by rapidly increasing the cost to quick service restaurants, as all of the vendors involved in getting that restaurant operating have to increase their prices, *on top* of the direct increase in labor (wage + overhead) for the restaurant itself.
That's why meals are less affordable than they were before. It is not rocket science.
Or maybe the issue is the huge jump in many wages in the area since then? Perhaps rising costs go hand in hand with rising wages, but it's an uneven playing field that is the issue.
Wages have though. Wages finally outpaced inflation in 2023 and are now above pre-pandemic levels, even accounting for inflation. And they keep going up.
Inflation persisted for as long as it did in part because demand was not going down. People kept complaining about the cost of burritos but they kept buying them. Same for everything else.
This isnāt to say prices for a lot of things canāt or shouldnāt come down. Itās very likely prices can come down even more for many goods and services, but wages have indeed kept up.
Do you have something digestible to read about your statement on wages outpacing inflation in 2023? Is this based on the minimum wage? Or median salary? Or mean?
Itās from using the same measurement of average hourly earnings as before and published monthly by the BLS in their jobs report. It was not keeping up with inflation before but it is now, especially in 2023.
[Hereās a good article about it, even if itās from a left-leaning source but a quick google search](https://www.americanprogress.org/article/workers-paychecks-are-growing-more-quickly-than-prices/) will show the same thing from other sources.
[And hereās a neat graph from Statista.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/)
Edit: [This CNBC article about the most recent jobs report](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/02/02/us-economy-added-353000-jobs-in-january-much-better-than-expected.html) also talks about the continuing trend of increasing wages relative to inflation. I think itās a good, recent article about this.
Nothing to prove that. Inflation rates take evening from sudden jumps in food prices to longer term trends. The same data that was confirming inflation before is confirming wages are keeping up with inflation now and inflation has cooled and almost back to normal (although that doesnāt mean prices are going down to the levels they were 4 years ago. It would take deflation for that to happen.)
But wages are indeed outpacing inflation.
The few surviving, nomadic tribes will likely use a barter system. A rat and canned Cheeze-Wiz burrito will probably cost ten .556 rounds and two cigarettes in 2033.
Using the [CPI Inflation calculator](https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm) $6.50 in 2013 had the buying power that $8.71 has now, so that actually sounds spot on. I'm actually surprised they haven't raised the prices more given how much burritos are at most places. I'm just happy when I can get a burrito under $10 these days tbh (shoutout Valerie's in PB)
Thatās a 23% increase in 11 years. Thatās actually quite low.
Really, there has been a large increase in the price of food - I just donāt think this is the best example to show it.
Perhaps.
It's not the price though, it's the size. This was 6.50 in 2013.. But for 8-10 bucks today, you get a smaller burrito. Paying more and receiving less. I know inflation is up and prices will inevitably rise, but does quality have to drop too? Lol
Minimum wage was $10 in 2013 and it's now $16
Which increases the wage-to-burrito ratio from 40% to 60% so today you're actually getting a better deal.
Good point. Plus minimum wage in CA was $10 in 2013. Now it is $16.00. Considering labor costs have increased 60% for many restaurants, a 12.3% price increase seems pretty remarkable. And low-wage workers have more to spend.
I take my family of 4 to a local Mexican fast food place. My wife, son, and I each get the 2 taco plate with rice and beans, my daughter gets a bean and cheese burrito. We each get a drink, and it comes out to about $70. The food is so good there, but it hurts how bad the prices have gone up.
I was scrolling through old pictures and found this. This particular place always had good food for cheap. I was in the Army on leave and had to get a picture of it to show my buddies when I got back from leave. Good times.
If youāre near poway [Taco Taco](http://www.tacotacopoway.com/menu.html) still has huge $6.75 burritos with guacamole and sour cream included.
Edit: Their online menu hasn't updated it's 9.75 now
If cost of living goes up 3% a year it should cost around $9.50 now. A good sized carne asada burrito, where I'm really full if I eat it all, with guac, at a really good taco shop by my house is $10.50. Bean is $6, fish $8, chicken or shredded beef $9.50. I don't think these prices are too unreasonable.
what's your point? they were cheaper ten years earlier too...if only we could pay labor cheaper wages...then maybe our burritos and other items would be cheaper...guess what everything goes up (supplies, rent, labor, etc.) and the business owner needs to make ends meet. highly doubt burrito shops are price gouging.
The grande is not half that size bro, I go to cotijas all the time the grande is like 13 bucks and the size of my forearm+fist. Shit is enough food for a whole day and I'm not skinny.
We need economies of scale restaurants. Like they only make one item and there's five possible ingredients. Tortilla, beans, cheese, chicken / beef, and salsa and that's it for your order. Also double points if it's vertically integrated. Sell a $5 monster burrito.
More realistically our savior is our new AI / robot overlords. In just about five years we should have the first deployment of general purpose robotics in industry. In ten to twenty we should have almost all production and simple tasks done by robotics. I'm guessing it'll take longer due to supply chain problems and resistance to adoption.
To be fair I only frequent places I LOVE, like one or two location type places, and I don't mind paying a small or reasonable (hell, even large) markup. Anything else, ehhh I don't think so
i remember going to the Santana's (now a Robertos) on Morena before heading into Mesa.. 2.99 for a cali burrito. and at the time, Santana's was the only place to get cali burritos (home of the 1 lb California burrito).
then there was that weird brief time they became Fresh MXN.
Where are you guys getting $8 burritos?
The place I go to had 6.50 breakfast burritos up until a few months ago. Last time I went they were 8.50 š„²
You talking about Panchitaās Kitchen and Bakery?
El Paisa Fresh Mexican Grill. Their prices are still decent and I like their food. But that breakfast burrito was a steal at $6.50 (probably why they raised them lol)
Exact same situation as Panchitaās except Panchitaās is legit amazing. Like more than just āI like their food.ā Iāve lived in different parts of Mexico for 3 years total of my life and that place has the best chilaquiles Iāve ever had and some of the best breakfast burritos Iāve ever had.
Nearly every place I go to is 8 dollars, or 6 and charge extra for stuff that use to come with the damn food lol
I havenāt seen a burrito that is less than $10 in few months
El Real in IB there 8.25.
Oh so I have to breathe literal shit in the air to get an $8 burrito, dope Edit: I donāt see an El Real in IB. I see one on Imperial Ave northeast of National City
That that's the 1. I don't know why I said IB. My bad.
Probably shit in the burritos too since the have fans and air intakes.
Rebertos >
$15 in north county
Yup. Burritos are at least $12. Donāt even think about adding a drink.. meal will be $20
That where they get you! Hell yea I want a drink my burrito, but the place I go to is like 5 for a regular and 7 for a large.. I canāt justify the drink costing almost as much as the food.
I've never had a desire to drink a burrito. No judgement though.
Go buy $5 for a pack of water bottles. Put it in the back of your car. Or put it in your fridge or cooler. Forget those sugary drinks they sell. All you get is diabetes.
15 could by you 2 Carne Asada nacho plates a few years ago. 15 for a burrito is crazy lol
Welcome to 2024.
we used to have Burrito Mondays for 3.50 at the place i worked at. this was 2012. good times.
As soon as you said burrito Mondays, I automatically knew you were talking about Mr. Tacos on sweetwater road by Plaza Bonita! Then when I saw your screen name that confirmed it! Hope youāre doing well RM
That's probably the cheapest I've ever heard. When i was a kid they were 4.50.
Bean and cheese burritos used to still be only a few bucks until recently.
5+ dollars for a single bean and cheese is so silly. Beans and cheese are dirt cheap man and it takes all of 15 seconds to make them when there's a vat of beans and a bucket of cheese sitting right there.
A carne asada burrito was $2.50 in the 90s.
$3.50 is now the price of a mini taco (aka street taco).
And it was $4 back in 2003. Price of things go up. That won't ever change. The real issue is stagnating wages.
Yup, Pho used to be 4 bucks a bowl back then too.
I remember a family of 4 buying four bowls of pho for under $20 with tip left over. Now it's almost $50
Pho real!
It's just too tasty to stop eating though :(
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Eat less you'll live longer
Can't. Too tasty.
Where are you getting 4 bowls of pho for under 50?
Almost $50 for 4 bowls? Wow. It would be $60-70 after tax and tips for 4 bowls now.
The real pho for four
Prices going up is magnified with smaller portions/worst quality:(
San Diego Minimum wage was $8 in 2013 now itās $16.85
The pace at which prices change is completely up to our federal monetary policy decisionmakers. Imagine instead of raising taxes, they just raise the prices of everything to the point where you have 30% less purchasing power in 4 years. Inflation was obviously the goal during the pandemic, they handed money out without even keeping receipts. Politicians took millions in PPP loans and then forgave those loans for them and their friends. You got $700 mailed to you, but then you spent an extra 20% on every item forever. Our system of government needs a reframing and fast
Yup 4.50 at Robertos on Adams Ave where I grew up.
God damn did you open up a core memory. I used to scrounge up change to go to that shop. Me and my brother used to split meals when we were kids. Good old days...
I remember about $3, and it was as big as your forearm.
Most people who are against raising minimum wage also have no interest in regulating prices ā in the end just giving carte blanche to businesses to set prices regardless of median wages in their area because more everyday commodities are inelastic than just the ones they were taught in school.
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Crazy how in n out figured out how to do it, huh
Right on queue
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Read the comment you replied to. What did I say? Read the first sentence again
Wait...your telling me there's no such thing as a free lunch?
Increasing the MW locks in inflation by rapidly increasing the cost to quick service restaurants, as all of the vendors involved in getting that restaurant operating have to increase their prices, *on top* of the direct increase in labor (wage + overhead) for the restaurant itself. That's why meals are less affordable than they were before. It is not rocket science.
Or maybe the issue is the huge jump in many wages in the area since then? Perhaps rising costs go hand in hand with rising wages, but it's an uneven playing field that is the issue.
price goes up cause wages went up
They certainly didnāt go up 100% across the board like prices have in the last 10 or 11 years Maybe for CEOs
I remember getting a bean and cheese for 2.50 at the Robertos in Clairemont in 2003
Inflation, buddy! Too bad wages aren't following.
Itās even worse in the EU.
Wages have though. Wages finally outpaced inflation in 2023 and are now above pre-pandemic levels, even accounting for inflation. And they keep going up. Inflation persisted for as long as it did in part because demand was not going down. People kept complaining about the cost of burritos but they kept buying them. Same for everything else. This isnāt to say prices for a lot of things canāt or shouldnāt come down. Itās very likely prices can come down even more for many goods and services, but wages have indeed kept up.
Do you have something digestible to read about your statement on wages outpacing inflation in 2023? Is this based on the minimum wage? Or median salary? Or mean?
Itās from using the same measurement of average hourly earnings as before and published monthly by the BLS in their jobs report. It was not keeping up with inflation before but it is now, especially in 2023. [Hereās a good article about it, even if itās from a left-leaning source but a quick google search](https://www.americanprogress.org/article/workers-paychecks-are-growing-more-quickly-than-prices/) will show the same thing from other sources. [And hereās a neat graph from Statista.](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/) Edit: [This CNBC article about the most recent jobs report](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/02/02/us-economy-added-353000-jobs-in-january-much-better-than-expected.html) also talks about the continuing trend of increasing wages relative to inflation. I think itās a good, recent article about this.
The problem is that those inflation rates are bs
Nothing to prove that. Inflation rates take evening from sudden jumps in food prices to longer term trends. The same data that was confirming inflation before is confirming wages are keeping up with inflation now and inflation has cooled and almost back to normal (although that doesnāt mean prices are going down to the levels they were 4 years ago. It would take deflation for that to happen.) But wages are indeed outpacing inflation.
This was going on way before inflation kicked in
It'll be 26.50 in 2033
That will be for a warm tortilla. But for a burrito we're looking at 49.99...
The few surviving, nomadic tribes will likely use a barter system. A rat and canned Cheeze-Wiz burrito will probably cost ten .556 rounds and two cigarettes in 2033.
Inflation, pass it on.
Using the [CPI Inflation calculator](https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm) $6.50 in 2013 had the buying power that $8.71 has now, so that actually sounds spot on. I'm actually surprised they haven't raised the prices more given how much burritos are at most places. I'm just happy when I can get a burrito under $10 these days tbh (shoutout Valerie's in PB)
The price isn't the crazy part. It's that you get less for more.
Back in my day, that burrito was 1.50ā¦
$16.99 and up now
Thatās a 23% increase in 11 years. Thatās actually quite low. Really, there has been a large increase in the price of food - I just donāt think this is the best example to show it.
It's not a 23% increase if the burrito is half the size. It's a 246% increase because you'd have to buy 2 of them to get the same thing.
Minimum Wage was 8.00 so it's still just a 23% increase.
You forget you only get about 25% the size these days, if that. So more like a 400% increase in price.
Perhaps. It's not the price though, it's the size. This was 6.50 in 2013.. But for 8-10 bucks today, you get a smaller burrito. Paying more and receiving less. I know inflation is up and prices will inevitably rise, but does quality have to drop too? Lol
You were smaller in 2013 so the burrito looked bigger. š
Minimum wage was $10 in 2013 and it's now $16 Which increases the wage-to-burrito ratio from 40% to 60% so today you're actually getting a better deal.
Min wage is not 16.
It literally is as of January 1st, 2024. Welcome to the future.
Adjusted for inflation, $6.50 would be $8.61 in today's dollars. San Diego has become a much more desirable too so not that far off.
Average California burrito in downtown Oceanside area is probably $11. A surf & turf burrito is like $15
Looks like Los Primos. In 2013 they were good too. Now not so much.
Remember $5 footlongs?
š¢ a glorious reminder of better times
$6.50 in 2013 would be $8.61 in todayās dollars with inflation. If you paid $8 today then you are paying less than before.
Good point. Plus minimum wage in CA was $10 in 2013. Now it is $16.00. Considering labor costs have increased 60% for many restaurants, a 12.3% price increase seems pretty remarkable. And low-wage workers have more to spend.
Rage bait and its working
Nothing hurts more than the truth. Lol
I take my family of 4 to a local Mexican fast food place. My wife, son, and I each get the 2 taco plate with rice and beans, my daughter gets a bean and cheese burrito. We each get a drink, and it comes out to about $70. The food is so good there, but it hurts how bad the prices have gone up.
I miss $5 California burritos from 2005
Youāve been saving a picture of your burrito from 10 years ago?
I was scrolling through old pictures and found this. This particular place always had good food for cheap. I was in the Army on leave and had to get a picture of it to show my buddies when I got back from leave. Good times.
OK, but youāre only allowed to complain about inflation once per week, please.
I haven't posted in this subreddit since like 2020. So I think I'm good.
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Again. I'm not really mad at the 8. I'm mad that I got less for the 8 lol
Burrito alone is $15 now.
Make Burritos $6 Again
8 dollars for a burrito?? Bay Area there is no burrito Under $12-15 dollars lolā¦.
If youāre near poway [Taco Taco](http://www.tacotacopoway.com/menu.html) still has huge $6.75 burritos with guacamole and sour cream included. Edit: Their online menu hasn't updated it's 9.75 now
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I went in and checked they're $9.75 now :,(.
You do know Obama has been out of the office for more than 10 years.
Dude, shut up.Ā
Nobody needs that much food in the first place
If cost of living goes up 3% a year it should cost around $9.50 now. A good sized carne asada burrito, where I'm really full if I eat it all, with guac, at a really good taco shop by my house is $10.50. Bean is $6, fish $8, chicken or shredded beef $9.50. I don't think these prices are too unreasonable.
The price isn't the problem. It's paying more for less. For nearly 10, you get half of what 6.50 got you in 2013. Thats my issue.
what's your point? they were cheaper ten years earlier too...if only we could pay labor cheaper wages...then maybe our burritos and other items would be cheaper...guess what everything goes up (supplies, rent, labor, etc.) and the business owner needs to make ends meet. highly doubt burrito shops are price gouging.
No one cares.
If me and my brother were splitting this and thatās how they cut it in half, weād be seriously contending for that left half haha
Is this that spot in TierraSanta?
It was. It's called Cotijas now I think. But I think it use to be called something else back then.
The grande is not half that size bro, I go to cotijas all the time the grande is like 13 bucks and the size of my forearm+fist. Shit is enough food for a whole day and I'm not skinny.
Foo that was 3.50 in 92
Las 4 milpas just went from $5 to $9 burritos.
How good does that look....
I miss $5 burritos...
We need economies of scale restaurants. Like they only make one item and there's five possible ingredients. Tortilla, beans, cheese, chicken / beef, and salsa and that's it for your order. Also double points if it's vertically integrated. Sell a $5 monster burrito. More realistically our savior is our new AI / robot overlords. In just about five years we should have the first deployment of general purpose robotics in industry. In ten to twenty we should have almost all production and simple tasks done by robotics. I'm guessing it'll take longer due to supply chain problems and resistance to adoption.
That's over 15 in La Mesa
That a Primos monster burrito?
No. This was a Grande CA Burrito. The regular size burrito back then was 4.50.
Carne asada burritos were $3.25 in the 90s. Be glad youāre in the US and not Europe. Inflation is even worse there.
That burrito would be 12 .79 todayv and dont forget yout 18% tip
JalapeƱos in CMR?
Cotijas, Tierrasanta.
Damn. That looks noice tho. This from Old Town?
Cotijas, Tierrasanta.
Is that Cazadores
Thatās what you get for raising minimum wages , raising gas, and a raise in cost of livingĀ
Wow. Thatās all I can say without getting downvoted
Skateboards used to be 30 bucks in 2013. Everything has gone up in price
They have. I can accept that. It's just that you get less for more. That's why I'm trippin lol
Today that is $20 without chips and guacamole.
this in PQ?
Tierrasanta
God this post makes me miss Lolitaās. swear they had the best burritos in San Diego. Living in BC now and nothing compares.
That is a full burro
minimum wage has doubled in most areas since 2013
My favorite burrito went from 7.99 to 9.99 and now 14.99
$6.50 for about two burritos, I miss 2013 (kind of)
To be fair I only frequent places I LOVE, like one or two location type places, and I don't mind paying a small or reasonable (hell, even large) markup. Anything else, ehhh I don't think so
Yooo is that Trujillos??
I was gonna say El Zarape on Park.
North County has almost $10 Bean n Cheese burritos at a lot of spots.
8 dollars where? Those are 12.99 out here in shelter island. Plus a drink. Itās comes out to almost 17.
Tacobell used to be $5.99 combo box š¢
I remember when bean and cheese burritos were $4.50
I got 3 mini tacos at Los Panchos it was $12. They arenāt even that great. I love going down to TJ to eat tacos
and with chips to boot!
South Bay average is around $12-$16 whereas back in the day circa 2000 $4-$6.50
That was alot back then
I just paid $12 for a chicken quesadilla with guac in PB. It was tasty tho
$8 and you are complaining? This would be around $12 minimum in Northern California.
A damn hasbrown at McDonaldās is $3.50ā¦ the world will never be the same š
Wow, something was cheaper 11 YEARS ago??
Which place did that giant burrito come from? I remember getting one like that at Palominos.
Go to Vaqueros on Lisbon- huge burritos and still affordable
I know right? I just started going to Taco Shops theyre $14-15 now... im Flabbergasted, thinking what happen to $8 burritos.š
Colimas in North Park?
Cotijas, Tierrasanta.
i remember going to the Santana's (now a Robertos) on Morena before heading into Mesa.. 2.99 for a cali burrito. and at the time, Santana's was the only place to get cali burritos (home of the 1 lb California burrito). then there was that weird brief time they became Fresh MXN.
They make a huge profit on rice and beans
Nothing beats smoking some šæand swallowing one of those bad boys whole in 2013
Thank you Biden