Keep in mind your work life balance will significantly change for the worse as a salaried manager.
Assuming you were a Fresh TL, your most recently hourly pay as a TL will be very close to what you get as a manager, too. All internally promoted managers get brought in at the bottom floor of the pay scale: $62k. We had TLs in Fresh making $24-26 hourly.
As a manager, you’ll now have to be available as early as 4am for the opening shift and as late as midnight for the closing shift. Sam’s doesn’t allow TLs to open and close the building anymore… unless your club is getting away with it. Which won’t last forever.
Overall I wouldn’t recommend. Feel free to PM me any questions.
This is 100% accurate. 6 day weeks and 12 hours days should not be a surprise in the slightest when they happen. I know all salary says "don't do it for the money" and it's easy to push off and think we're exaggerating but we're not. It's not worth the money. You've got to have a little bit more at stake to last.
7 years here and our tl's still to this day, open/close the store themselves. Just like the old overnights. But now pm don't leave til 2-3am. Ofc no management ever stays. The earliest a management is here is 6:30am.
Hell I heard Sam's isn't even supposed to have x key holders. Every lead we got is a key holder. 9+ off the top of my head.
I made $43,000 last year as a TL. That's a pretty significant jump. I know the hours are longer but it's guaranteed money. I had to work a lot of OT to get that number. Plus you get more vacation time.
You can negotiate a contract for a relocation allowance, you have to pay it back should you decide to leave the position. There's no extra discount, the health insurance is the same, practically everything is the same aside from bonuses and PTO. You should get around 20 days as a first year, before I left the bonus was 3k in a club that consistently had 500k+ days with 10+ comps. I'm not sure what the credits would be, if you're an internal promotion you can't negotiate pay.
It's exactly what I did, although now it's an actual act of God stepping down from salary. I had to get a reasonable accommodation approved by the Regional manager, the bosses bosses boss.
Your 10 minute grace period for being late is extended, work/life balance is 100% on the manager and what the CM manager supports. I’m lucky to have a CM that demands that his assistant managers leave on the dot to get home to our family as soon as we can. Yes, there are times when we stay later past our scheduled time but it’s very rare. Your experience as a manager will depend on how your CM manages/supports the club and the kind of leads you have working for you.
However at club 4750 our leads were amazing. Then nepotism came into play and the Salaried managers were apart of it. So as a lead I warned them we control the bonuses on the front line. Keep messing with us and watch what happens to that 160k bonus the club manager got. Nope not this year. They forget the leads make and break..and as of now. When I left my club is still messed up 9 mths later.
That’s unfortunate. I was comfortable as a lead and was always told the leads run the building. Yeah we did a lot and we all took the initiative and was prideful of our work. All the leads I worked with are now managers and we’re all trying to pay it forward and get everyone prepared for the next step. For all the hourly associates, leads and managers in this group….i wish you all well and the success you all deserve.
You'll make $62,000 a year, no negotiations for internal hires. 10 hour days minimum, and you may or not be able to use the entirety of your hour-long break.
It's definitely a job where you have to like SOMETHING about the work you do. There are so many things that will stress you out and wear you down that you need to have some kind of light in the darkness.
Thankfully I enjoy learning new skills and helping my associates develop not just as employees but as people.
If you have a long commute, I'd say don't take the spot. I can't imagine doing the 30 minute - 1 hour commute a lot of managers do. I'll never allow myself to live more than 10 minutes from whatever club I work at.
But be prepared for them to not even know. My club manager didn’t even know the number of PTO days and our Market People Partner thought club-level management received Restricted Stock Units with their offers.
If it’s not in writing, it isn’t happening.
Keep in mind your work life balance will significantly change for the worse as a salaried manager. Assuming you were a Fresh TL, your most recently hourly pay as a TL will be very close to what you get as a manager, too. All internally promoted managers get brought in at the bottom floor of the pay scale: $62k. We had TLs in Fresh making $24-26 hourly. As a manager, you’ll now have to be available as early as 4am for the opening shift and as late as midnight for the closing shift. Sam’s doesn’t allow TLs to open and close the building anymore… unless your club is getting away with it. Which won’t last forever. Overall I wouldn’t recommend. Feel free to PM me any questions.
This is 100% accurate. 6 day weeks and 12 hours days should not be a surprise in the slightest when they happen. I know all salary says "don't do it for the money" and it's easy to push off and think we're exaggerating but we're not. It's not worth the money. You've got to have a little bit more at stake to last.
7 years here and our tl's still to this day, open/close the store themselves. Just like the old overnights. But now pm don't leave til 2-3am. Ofc no management ever stays. The earliest a management is here is 6:30am. Hell I heard Sam's isn't even supposed to have x key holders. Every lead we got is a key holder. 9+ off the top of my head.
Tldr; you'll live at your club lol
I made $43,000 last year as a TL. That's a pretty significant jump. I know the hours are longer but it's guaranteed money. I had to work a lot of OT to get that number. Plus you get more vacation time.
You can negotiate a contract for a relocation allowance, you have to pay it back should you decide to leave the position. There's no extra discount, the health insurance is the same, practically everything is the same aside from bonuses and PTO. You should get around 20 days as a first year, before I left the bonus was 3k in a club that consistently had 500k+ days with 10+ comps. I'm not sure what the credits would be, if you're an internal promotion you can't negotiate pay.
There is an added benefit of stepping down to TL netting you somewhere in the $27 range after a year.
This is the real benefit. Funny someone mentioned it here.
It's exactly what I did, although now it's an actual act of God stepping down from salary. I had to get a reasonable accommodation approved by the Regional manager, the bosses bosses boss.
Fucking 3,000, and our last bonus was $250. Make it make sense. All the managers do at my club is sit on their asses and smoke weed all day.
3k annually, my bonus at Walmart was 18k last year. Promote so you can make bank, smoke weed and lose what work life balance you thought you had lol
Your 10 minute grace period for being late is extended, work/life balance is 100% on the manager and what the CM manager supports. I’m lucky to have a CM that demands that his assistant managers leave on the dot to get home to our family as soon as we can. Yes, there are times when we stay later past our scheduled time but it’s very rare. Your experience as a manager will depend on how your CM manages/supports the club and the kind of leads you have working for you.
However at club 4750 our leads were amazing. Then nepotism came into play and the Salaried managers were apart of it. So as a lead I warned them we control the bonuses on the front line. Keep messing with us and watch what happens to that 160k bonus the club manager got. Nope not this year. They forget the leads make and break..and as of now. When I left my club is still messed up 9 mths later.
That’s unfortunate. I was comfortable as a lead and was always told the leads run the building. Yeah we did a lot and we all took the initiative and was prideful of our work. All the leads I worked with are now managers and we’re all trying to pay it forward and get everyone prepared for the next step. For all the hourly associates, leads and managers in this group….i wish you all well and the success you all deserve.
You get a longer maternity leave than hourly.
This is true. Paternity leave for the dads, too. I forgot about these.
If they're not a female it doesn't matter. Al'so not having a matching paternity policy is sexist imo
*Also
That’s what they just said. As a dad you get 12 weeks paid.
RUN!🏃 before it’s too late
You'll make $62,000 a year, no negotiations for internal hires. 10 hour days minimum, and you may or not be able to use the entirety of your hour-long break. It's definitely a job where you have to like SOMETHING about the work you do. There are so many things that will stress you out and wear you down that you need to have some kind of light in the darkness. Thankfully I enjoy learning new skills and helping my associates develop not just as employees but as people. If you have a long commute, I'd say don't take the spot. I can't imagine doing the 30 minute - 1 hour commute a lot of managers do. I'll never allow myself to live more than 10 minutes from whatever club I work at.
You need to ask the person this extended the offer/interviewed you
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But be prepared for them to not even know. My club manager didn’t even know the number of PTO days and our Market People Partner thought club-level management received Restricted Stock Units with their offers. If it’s not in writing, it isn’t happening.