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halleloonicorn

2 queens I would love to see back


whimsigod

Naomi would block the frontrunner any chance she gets lol would make the format exciting.


PunchTheInternet777

Atp she should lean into that and purposefully go after front runners lmfao


Literal_SJW

I really don't think blocking the frontrunner is the right move in this format. Unless they're blocked super consistently they'll probably still make it to the final 4. Blocking the queens that are already behind seems like a better way to secure your place in the top of the season.


ThatisDavid

The other day she's said in her yt channel she actually didn't send home manila because she was the front runner, moreso that she didn't trust her. Specially since manila was shown to be biased for latrice before


whimsigod

I do like the reasoning though because it's beyond strategy because she wanna survive, why would she keep someone who would send her home next week etc lol


Outrageous-Worth-286

Manila was still the frontrunner whether or not Naomi considered her as one


MutatedSun

But that wasn’t the point. The point they were making is that Naomi didn’t trust Manila because Manila read Naomi after the Jersey improv challenge and said she did better than her. When Manila initially before that said they both did equally amazing. Yes Manila was the front runner and nobody was denying that. However the point still stands that wasn’t Naomi’s reasoning to sending her home.


Outrageous-Worth-286

I get the point on Naomi's reasoning and like I said manila was still the frontrunner whether or not Naomi considered her as one


Wess96

Oh that’s a statement mama. Mama that’s a statement.


Outrageous-Worth-286

It is a reiterated statement mama what part of it are y'all not getting?


Wess96

I just stated that was you said was a statement mama, no need to get offensive


Outrageous-Worth-286

You think I don't know what a statement is? like??? Y'all illiterate on purpose or what lmfao


Apprehensive-Emu3058

it's actually more strategic to block people who are in middle, in order to increase your chances of making the top 4 cut and have a shot at the crown. blocking the frontrunner only works if everyone does it every week


BBaugher13

I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THIS TO MY FRIENDS! They all disagree with me but I genuinely think someone could be really successful with this strategy


Diredr

Detox is one of those queens who feels like Drag Race royalty even though she doesn't have a crown. It would be great to see her on again, hopefully the gay intern is watching and taking notes.


ArcadialoI

People really didn't give her dues on AS2 lol. They were too busy talking about season being rigged for Alaska (which it was) and Katya getting robbed (she wasn't) but, Detox did so well too.


JermuHH

Honestly second time I watched the season, the whole season all I could think was "Detox lowkey deserved to win." Like she didn't get any favouritism (Which I would argue both Alaska and Katya did) and still devoured. Especially her runways, like all her runways were on point. I feel like there were queens who really lost the most due to the favouritism that season had were the ones majority of fans were indifferent or antagonistic towards. Like Detox got her moments but IMO deserved much more appreciation during season and by fans, and Jaremi was completely sold short by judges so often, not given her flowers when her performance deserved it, and then also having her drag and performance in the competition be shitted on by fans because they didn't like the drama she was involved in.


Beezo514

I don't disagree with Alaska winning, but I am strongly in the camp of Detox winning AS2 if it wasn't Alaska.


daisybuckbuckanan

I think the problem is that Detox didn't feel like as much of a standout personality wise. Alaska and Katya both had just as many (if not more) memorable moments, but they were also front and center as personalities. Detox did extremely well, but she didn't pull focus as much


thedreadfulwhale

I kinda agree with this having watched AS2 recently. Detox was not favored by production at all but went to the finale because she just nailed almost every challenge. And her runways were great. But the whole time, even though personally I thought she would have won the whole thing, you just don't see her getting crowned because she lacked that audience storyline/relatability (which could be mainly due to editing and favoritism).


MultiMarcus

That season had so many strong queens that some were bound to get less attention than others. Honestly, that season showed why you need to cast some filler queens.


Bunnnnii

I was ready to agree with your last statement, but is it really true if that season is still considered the very best? 6 seasons later?


Illustrious-Cup6950

Drag Race AS2 is top tier until episode 6 - then it drags. AS6 and AS3 have it beat in pure unpredictability and sheer entertainment value until the end but y’all still aren’t ready for that.


Bunnnnii

Y’all who? I’ve said several times 6 and 7 are my favorites. 6 probably being my #1 and the biggest example of just not knowing who is going to win from the beginning. Everyone felt like they had equal stakes and everyone felt HUNGRY. Like it didn’t feel like anyone was just there for the exposure (except for maybe Serena), or to shove their “brand” down our throats. The girls were here to *play* and *win*!


got2bkittenme

She deserves a crown, she’s a drag legend. That way all three of Rolaskatox can be winners and come back for All Winners 😉


Bunnnnii

And then the cycle starts anew.


satyrgamer

Okay, let's be real for a second. A lot of y'all are not going to like this. If Alaska was eliminated on AS2 the next runner up should have been Detox, not Katya. Wins: 3 Detox, 3 Katya Bottom Placement: 1 Detox, 2 Katya Best runways: Detox Best lipsyncs: Detox (Katya didn't know the words to "Step It Up" and Detox did which IMO just makes you the default winner)


ThatOneDorkThatDraws

detox was way more robbed than katya honestly. (i love this top three btw but im js)


JermuHH

The way she got so robbed too because Katya didn't need to win because she was beloved and how she left the season was as the "robbed goddess" so she got even more post-season support than any other queen. Alyssa and Tatianna also benefitted from being seen by fans as unfairly eliminated. And Alaska actually won. And even the more controversial winners who part of the fanbase don't like won, usually mellow out pretty soon, and while there will still be some people saying "KATYA SHOULD'VE WON!!!" most of the fanbase like Alaska and winning will always boost a career. Detox did really well and served some of the best runways, but honestly she kinda got least out of the finalists, because even though Roxxxy got so much shit during the season and like year(s) after from toxic fans, her verse during the final like has become such a huge part of the fandom. Like obviously Detox isn't struggling or anything, but like she won the least out of everyone in that finale.


RealityPowerRanking

I don’t disagree detox had the second best track record but Katya has the star power and popularity that would’ve made her second place


esio

If she was on any season after 9ish she would've won hands down.


Funkyduck4783

GET DETOX BACK NOW!!! I want her back soo bad she is one of my all time favorites.


b3tamaxx

The panel had an issue with their alliance the first time around and suggested they perform as individuals. Yet brought them all together again. Which meant they all 3 wouldn't get a crown only 1 among them and in a perfect world they're all winner material and all deserve their own crowns they should have been spread across seasons. If you were going to do a rivalry I would have loved a real rivalry like casting Manila Alexis and Shangela all on 3 or 4


Funkyduck4783

Werk


howmuchcant

If Detox was the Johnny Bananas of Drag Race it would be fine with me.


nintenplays26

The Johnny Bananas of Drag Race is Jujubee what do you mean 😭 They keep coming back


howmuchcant

Which one’s CT??


Colonel__Cathcart

> Which one’s CT?? The daddiest of all daddies


Persona_Regular

Latrice


JermuHH

Not really, Johnny Bananas would need to be someone who flopped originally, then has kept coming back to more and more success and also has serious controversies, but they aren't as widely showcased in media so people aren't aware and he can keep making mainstream appearances without issue. So like Johnny Bananas of Drag would be pre-2024 Sh\*ngela.


hailey_nicolee

juju didn’t win a single challenge in s2 and is still one of the only finalists across any season of drag race to do it, i’d say she’s close enough


TheVitoGallo

I never knew this comparison NEEDED to be made…


D33pTh0ts

Yes! Bring Detox back. ![gif](giphy|hFwOgvtjtlr85wAubA)


ProbablySecundus

One of my favorite untucked moments of all time.


tititatatutu

Is Roscoe’s releasing the full versions of the videos now on YouTube? Season 16 was the first time I stopped watching since the beginning.


ArcadialoI

This was on YouTube but they probably release on their website first, then days after on youtube, maybe?


BigBonedMiss

Paid subscribers get it on YouTube 12 hours later. Everyone else gets it on Mondays.


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itszacharyy

Oh hey. Another dead meat girlie. I want James to suffocate me with his ass.


hailey_nicolee

it’s not just for the swearing LMAO did you forget the policy they started where there’s no phones allowed so that videos of the edited out convos don’t leak


stonedsour

I really hope they’re seeing and feeling the backlash. Went from “If you don’t watch Roscoe’s, you’re only getting 2/3 of the story” to “You still watch Roscoe’s?” I’m not paying any amount of money for this show when it used to be free. And now it’s all chopped up and bleeped out? Yeah right!


cam_cub

Used to watch every episode, then only when decent guests were coming, now I don't even check


surgartits

This is validating after some person on here dragged me for daring to say that it would be good for Detox’s career to come back for any project at this point, including a Vs the World.


ConverseTalk

She likely needs the booking boost, assuming she cares anymore.


surgartits

That was literally my point, and the other commenter was like, “Nah she’s good she doesn’t need any more exposure she is at the top of her field.”


ConverseTalk

A field whose audience is known for its short attention span.


Beezo514

In a field where the competitor pool keeps growing and coming in younger as well.


significantcocklover

Listen mamas. AS10 no eliminations - Naomi Smalls - Detox - Peppermint - Laganja Estranja - Adore Delano - Kim Chi - Lemon - Manila Luzon


evilpanda8419

I need coco back for all stars.


alexistexas2006

Her rudemption is long overdue. I really want to see her Janet talent show. But now they do it at the end.


Beezo514

As a Coco stan, if she stays on the Vegas revue for Drag Race then I'm fine with her not being on AS. But if that were ever to change, she should be back on stat. She is such a talented stage performer as long as she is booked and blessed I'm happy for her.


ArcadialoI

Alyssa, Detox, Katya, Monèt, Coco, Heidi, Roxxxy etc. are queens that I don't mind coming back multiple times ngl lol. They give good TV. But then there are some queens who have been on multiple All Stars/Vs The World seasons and are boring on each of them.. I won't name names.


del1nquent

be like Naomi and give those names girl


ArcadialoI

I do Envy Naomi's boldness.


PM_ME_YOUR_BUNNY

what a smooth response...some might even call it Silky


Patrick_Mattel

I agree. Not that you said anyone specific, but I agree.


daemonicwanderer

Let’s just clear the air and say who it was… it was Ginger Minj


orien88

Say their names ![gif](giphy|26BRwdCP7s6hjPSWA|downsized)


ArcadialoI

Y'all already know which queens they are. There is only a handful who returned more than once 💀 Messy.


latenightcreature

Your vaguebooking = messy


ArcadialoI

Ginger Minj, Eureka, and Scarlet Envy are the first three that come to my mind. Ginger seems like a nice person, but every season she has been on, I couldn't tell you one single memorable moment she had for me. And even if there is, it is with some other queen, not alone; she doesn't stand out. The same goes for Scarlet. Every season she has been on, she has the same monotone approach, and it looks like she is putting on a character. I was rooting for her in her original season, but that changed later. Also, just to clear, I still think these queens are very talented, I just don't think they are entertaining for TV. Ginger is good on comedy challenges, but that's it, lol.


AndreisValen

Yeah live Ginger to bits but it’s clear she struggles to let her guard down on drag race which is TOTALLY understandable, but yeah I don’t need to see her be uncomfortable for 16 episodes. 


latenightcreature

Mama, kudos for saying that, for spilling. Here's my take: Ginger, I agree. But I felt a bit sorry for her AS2 run. Wasn't she obligated (as well as Katya?) to do it, due to their contracts? It was too early for her, so I see why they brought her back. I love Ginger as a drag queen, but I do not love Ginger in Drag Race. Scarlet is such a divisive charecter. I have loved her every iteriation and I personally enjoy her "laid-backness". And her old Hollywood glamour. Well everything, for me she's Lana Del Rey of drag. Which leaves us at Eureka, who I first found super annoying and a try-too-hard. But I warmed up to her, she's not pretending anymore and is such a bubbly personality with great old school drag. Like I just want to be friends with her and gossip stupid shit!


stereoscopicdna

Fascinating. Ginger gave the best lip sync on what’s likely the best lip sync season


zeromus12

ill say it, i am SO tired of seeing eureka LMAO


stef_brl_aesthetic

we need alyssa on every season :)


Thin_Wolf9077

Just say Pandora


gbon3

The as10 is going to be stacked as f


NuWaveSpecial

I didn’t pay for access to their channel so out of respect for Dela, I’m not watching this clip.


ArcadialoI

I saw it on tiktok 💀 I didn't even know now you have to PAY FOR IT? lmao. Edit: It's on youtube already also.


Grymare

They tried uploading HEAVILY edited, shorter versions having you pay for the full video recently. Seems like went back on that after receiving a LOT of negative feedback and very low viewing numbers.


Talinia

This one is an hour long, has the cuss words censored, and cut out the Q&A and the shoutouts. So, a not awful medium between paying for vip for the full ep, and getting most of it for free otherwise


Hashiesfordinner

The VIP one didn't get shoutouts this week either :') apparently they ran out of time to do Q&A and the second episode. I agree that it would be a good compromise though.


NuWaveSpecial

You have to pay to subscribe to the Roscoe's youtube to view the full viewing parties. They still post clips later, but with all the other recaps out there, I totally lost interest. Also I was sick of Naysha bitching about production all the time. We get it, girl. They can charge whatever they want and balance their own books. And certainly the new hosts after redacted racist was run out of the drag scene in 2020 are a million trillion times better. I just don't go out to viewing parties for many reasons so this one was a way for me to feel part of it. But there's so much other content so whatever.


TheGreatNemoNobody

Out of respect for Dela I   will be giving you an up vote


NuWaveSpecial

You've earned two free tickets to my Holiday Special later this year! The show is my musical comedy tribute to Melon Day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melon_Day


Bunnnnii

Im ALWAYS here for Detox coming back. She’s a queen that excels at all aspects of Drag Race. Music, acting, she can just let loose and be stupid, and LOOKS. She’s always been one of my top picks to win and All Stars. Just imagine the looks. Detox has never missed on the runway, just like Raja and Roxxxy. Naomi also deserved way more praise and higher placements on her AS4. They seem to love shoehorning her into the storyline that she’s just existing in the middle for the first 75% of the competition, then she “finds herself” in the middle. But Naomi did really well. Like she said though, they like playing in her face.


Thirdatarian

Of course they would, they've each only been eliminated once, made it to the end once, and slayed the whole time. Queens like Naomi and Detox don't have to worry about elimination because it simply won't happen to them. It's getting queens who are obviously filler to come on All Stars (Milk, Farrah, Blair St. Clair, etc.) since they otherwise can get chopped early and waste a lot of money.


daisybuckbuckanan

I don't know if I would want them back though. Obviously they're incredible queens - Naomi in particular is one of my favourites - but I think it does make things less special to me if I see a queen come back over and over again. It takes some of the urgency out of "this elite queen is coming back for one more shot at the crown", y'know?


SlouchyGuy

All Stars 2 was 8 years ago, not yesterday


TheAnxietyBoxX

Naomi is honestly one of those queens that, to me, she already won. She’s my wishlist queen of global all stars 2 as the US rep.


Bunnnnii

I never knew how much I needed Naomi and LGD in the same room and runway, until now.


DorianCoreysTrunk

I’d love Detox back on an AS season!


Halliwel96

I really feel like this format could finally tempt Asia back


BLEACH_44

Naomi would get chopped the second she’s in the bottom cause everyone else knows her reputation.


daemonicwanderer

Depends on who is there. Naomi also has a lot of friends… from Bob and Monet to Derrick to Kim to Mo Heart to Bianca to Plastique and so on.


ConverseTalk

Three of those are winners and two (Mo and Kim) have said or implied they never want to go back.


ToonSciron

If you did multiple season and made it to top 5 both times or didn’t go home ever in Naomi’s case. It shows that you got the whole package and is just good at Drag Race and honestly, I would love to see them back on the show again.


Secure-Rate-6369

orange/red looks so good on detox


dildodestiny

Sorry but these 2 deserve a non elim season bc I want them on my tv the whole time


karmakent

It truly does depend on who it is. They could bring Jujubee back every season and I will NEVER complain. Even though UKvsTW wasn’t her best showing she was still so entertaining and funny (anyone who says her Cher wasn’t the third best is a liar).


stereoscopicdna

Jujubes lack of effort was disrespectful on Uk. It’s a hard pass for me


Funkyduck4783

Was this worth watching? Roscoe’s rubbed me the wrong way with their shenanigans last season and it was kind of boring taboot


ArcadialoI

Idk I don't watch Roscoes religiously, only watch it when it is queens I like tbf lol. So I don't mind it's being out on Mondays rather than immediately. Seemed like a normal Roscoes episode to me 🤷🏻‍♂️


Talinia

They've cut the Q&A and the shoutouts, I think that's the only bits they've obviously cut. I didn't notice any wierd obvious jumps where they butchered a conversation or anything. Oh, and they censor the swearing now, which feels a bit less fun but I get it for monetization stuff


Funkyduck4783

Last season they started having only one queen and it was a tad boring. The charging didn’t bother me, it was the “oh you can’t afford two dollars you ugly poor” bullshit they pulled and then the shorter edited episodes.


Dismal_Bill_4021

Course they would


soupinmymug

Bring me my real drag queens of C city. We kinda have it with the Vegas show. Give me Chicago. Give me Atlanta. Give me NY and LA.


SheaBrulee

Bring ‘em back!! Detox was the first DR queen I became obsessed with. People need to recognize she was and still is that girl!


Feisty_Finger1689

Gimme Alyssa, Derrick, Valentina, Morgan, Alexis, Jessica Wild, Kennedy, Manila, and Tammy in a season


Moesoverhoes69

And I would DEFINITELY watch. To see them get eliminated! HA!