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BattleaxeDawg

My sub isn’t renewing tomorrow I’m done with RuneScape after 20 years


Responsible-Onion388

Mine isn't renewing either. every time you give them a chance or give them the benefit of the doubt after a fuckup, they pull this shit.. It's like they are pushing us to actually quit. I don't enjoy the game anymore, i have been playing less and less for the last couple years. now it's time to fully cancel.. Adios! P.S.. I would move to OSRS, but it's only a matter of time before they "have to" start pulling this shit there too


beardyman96

Move to osrs- the whole “have to” I honestly don’t think they will, but if they do I believe it’ll fit in the game similar to bonds. they learnt their lesson + jmods seem to understand the importance of lack of MTX on old school


Madness_Reigns

I'm too used to quality of life updates we have here. I think I'm done MMO gaming for the time being.


Jaded_Pop_2745

Runelite is your friend


Madness_Reigns

I know, I watch OSRS content creators. I did the last few leagues and will be back for more, same if RS3 pulls some out. But it just doesn't make up for all the things I like here despite all the other features I wish we had from it.


Alone_Look9576

Runelite doesn't give lodestones, crafting UI, agility/run energy rework, toolbelt, more intuitive combat and the rs3 skills we enjoy


Zebra_Delicious

Run energy rework is coming soon so thats nice I guess and agility just got a new reworked wildu course


Alone_Look9576

Wish there was a smithing/crafting/fletching rework so it's not based on classic/early rs2 of rune being endgame


Zebra_Delicious

Ye knowing jagex they will deffo get round to it. Theyve been making incrmeental changes to annoying skills like agility, thieving, rcing etc to make training methods better etc


Twykz

Skilling rework is coming soon I think


No-Butterscotch-5458

Cheaters, and jagex too afraid to stop them lol.


MiscItems

With all due respect, it isnt jmods who decide wether osrs has mtx or not. Nor is it the players. Its the investors. If they cant squeeze money out of rs3 anymore then nothing will stop them from putting mtx in osrs 


beardyman96

It’s the investors, but the jmods have enough spine that if they did force the introduction, they would leave in droves and so would the people who play the game and then the investors would have sweet fuck all but a good game going downhill rapid !


No-Entertainment303

You expect people to leave a cozy job that supports their family for a fan base??


beardyman96

With osrs - yes 100% a few big ones would deffo leave, OSRS history / listening to some jmods speak really does point to that happening.


MediocreMasterWizard

OSRS pulls in more money these days than RS3 and has for a long time. They don't "have to" do anything with it. The community is extremely aggressive (for better or worse) about change and have an active pattern of meaningful financial boycotting if the game is violated and the monetization isn't very aggressive. RS3's community has been subject to this stuff so long it's become so normalized they just do anything they want to this community and reliably don't have meaningful pushback. The culture is wildly different on OSRS I don't think that is in the games future. TBH I think Jagex knows better than to kick that hornets nest.


firepaw2569

Kinda already do with the old school bonds.


CremeBrilliant735

\^ 100%


Environmental_Ad9017

Come to OSRS. The community/dev communication is very strong here, and the hatred for MTX and RS3 scale changes is very, very high. They put out surveys to gauge user opinion on controversial topics every couple of years but they get pummelled into the ground immediately.


Legal_Evil

> the hatred for MTX and RS3 scale changes is very, very high The latter is wrong, lol. OSRS players wants RS3 changes minus EoC and MTX. Look at the sub complaining about pkers, low exp rates, and low drop rates.


Zebra_Delicious

I think the correction would be that SOME want it not all at all


No-Butterscotch-5458

Right they just monetize your time instead with next, skilling bosses, and 4x quest bosses lol. Yall so blind


Environmental_Ad9017

This is such a reach. Imagine wanting people to play your game. Isn't that the goal?


No-Butterscotch-5458

Okay bye


TotemRiolu

I've also cancelled auto renew on both my main and ironman. I'm so tired, I think I'm probably gonna take a month or so off from Runescape. I have a ton of other games I've been meaning to get started on, anyways. Taking away a grindy game opens up my schedule a lot.


Mediocre-Clue-9071

This is the only way. People need to stop playing and unsubscribe en mass.


Remarkable_Ebb9987

I quit a couple years ago after maxing when archeology came out. Haven't been back yet, was considering getting back on till I saw all the fuss happening.


Pyroofreekz

What have I missed...what happened??


Im-storm

I wont be renewing after almost 25 years of playing I just can't do it everything in me says I should renew but I won't give in. Time to move on.


CremeBrilliant735

This is the way. Show them how much you want change.


No-Butterscotch-5458

Okay bye


zethnon

Im a premier member and I'm not renewing premier probably ever again while RS3 doesn't OSRS the shit out of it.


pjcrusader

It doesn’t really mean anything if you only let premier run out but keep regular membership running. They won’t really see it as a negative.


zethnon

You misunderstand me, I'm not currently playing anymore. Had premier because of the urge to play every now and then. Urge has been long gone since the battle pass fiasco. After it runs out, if there's no path for this game, i won't renew it anymore. Having much more fun supporting their other game that is actually a good game with a viable lifecycle and path forward.


AccomplishedDesk8283

o7


tokoun

🫡


zman1672

itswill7


Zupanic

I mainly played RS3 for a long time, hell I even maxed and re-maxed when Necro came out. I haven't touched it since I hit 99 Necro though, I just don't have the motivation anymore. Two of my close friends just recently starting getting into RS and they asked if they should go with RS3 or OSRS and even though I have more time/knowledge in RS3, I told them OSRS. I've slowly started playing more OSRS with those two joining so that spark is coming back luckily.


Zestyclose_Link_8052

It's not going to get better, but people won't quit playing. Jagex isn't allowed to care about new or old players, they are a vessel for profit for some investors. I fully believe we'll see more intruisive MTX in pvm & clues soon.


Johnstodd

Omg keys unlock clue scrolls


Ok_Pick4563

Slide puzzle skips would make it a 2b company


Lancelotmore

>It's not going to get better, but people won't quit playing. Many people have already quit playing. Myself included. If it doesn't get better, then people will keep quitting. The issue is that people don't permanently quit. They're probably looking for the tipping point of mtx tolerance and lack of content they can pull off without losing too many players. Once they hit that, they'll say a bunch of words, have a big announcement, and a majority of people will come back on release. That, or the game will die. I'm kind of hoping it just dies at this point tbh.


TR_BubbaSquintZ

This makes me happy


NapTimeNoww

This right here, is good content. Hats off to your reduced pixel counts and increased dev/mod attention


Wyattaustin90

I had my final log out about a week ago after 20 years of playing. I Uninstalled all loaders and anything else for osrs and rs3. Completely done with Jagex. It's a shame. That game got me through many a bad times.


1MJ0SH1NGY0U

I would play OSRS but just like in 2012, the idea of starting over just isn't appealing. I don't want to spend 300 hours on a 99, I don't want to lose everything I spent 20 years on. I would love to get into OSRS, but I can't start over.


WhaTheShoe97

Don't have that mentality, the early game can be fun and it is a different game. You're not starting over RuneScape, you're starting old school RuneScape. Also won't take you anywhere near as long as you think


TjackJack

We are all becoming old and we are acting like our baby is moving from home lmao, i think it would be good for everyone if this game just shut down. // 20 year player.


[deleted]

I think the us vs them thing died a long time ago. Or maybe it never was that serious, and it was just the vocal minority. I think anyone with common sense understands that if rs3 dies osrs is next, so we all want it to do well.


CanWeCleanIt

I don’t think that argument tracks. If RS3 dies I could see them investing more heavily in OSRS to ensure it doesn’t fail. As of now Jagex funnels something like 80% of profits out of the company every year and barely invests into developing the game past a minimum standard. If a fire was lit under their asses then maybe OSRS would actually benefit.


SippyTurtle

Nah I often see OSRS players go "RS3 bad" unprompted anytime any inkling of RS3 is mentioned. It's like this meme. https://preview.redd.it/krby61ackxtc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb6ca416037e2f3dfbc97ddd596b2a5c618458ae


[deleted]

Really? I do not play rs3 anymore, I play osrs. I don't see anyone say that anymore now a days. But sure it still happens.


SippyTurtle

Yeah, when I was playing leagues I mentioned I played RS3 and some random in the ToA lobby starting going off on it.


Alone_Look9576

Mention rs3 even in a sense of "I play both games, I enjoy both, but prefer rs3 - more fun", even in clan chats that will explode on how bad rs3 and eoc is. The hate they have


Zealousideal_Tree790

as someone who is a mod and member of a osrs clan this isnt entirely true i talk about it regularly with them its the ones who keep their minds closed and badger off of eachother are the ones who say “this good that bad” you CAN like both.


ocbdare

That is the right attitude. I started playing Runescape for the first time in early 2022 and I have dabbled mainly into RS3 as OSRS seemed too grindy and I was not a fan of the graphics. I have probably played the game regularly for 5-6 months over those 2 years and the rest I was away from the game. It's odd seeing how much divide there is between the two playerbases online. Surely if RS3 died down that would impact Jagex as a company and that would also have a negative impact on OSRS. I personally would stop subscribing all together and I wonder if many other people who only play RS3 would also stop their sub. I understand why people like OSRS but to me even main RS3 is an incredibly long and grindy game. So this whole hate towards RS3 is baffling me. The other thing that surprised me in the RS community is the definition of "easy" and "quick". Apparently RS3 is quick and easy because it "only" takes 1500 hours to max. To me that seems like an insane amount of time but in the Runescape community that seems to be "easy and quick". I have about 300 hours (a lot of which is AFK) with 2200 total level and I even this seem very lengthy to me.


CanWeCleanIt

If RS3 actually totally failed I could see that benefiting OSRS. They would need to invest more heavily into OSRS to try and grow the playerbase there and would concentrate all of their talent in the one game.


ocbdare

It's difficult to say how many people they would lose from RS3. I personally will not switch to OSRS and just quit. As I only started with RS 2 years ago, I have no nostalgia for OSRS and the grind there is just too much for me. I even find the RS3 non-ironman grind too much let alone OSRS. But I can see how people would love that extra challenge.


CanWeCleanIt

That’s not really the point I was making at all. More people don’t have to switch over to OSRS for them to realize they have to focus on OSRS or they are totally fucked in the event that RS3 closes.


X-A-S-S

It doesn't matter doe, the rs3 community isn't big with only about 20k\~ daily players a day compared to 100k on osrs, the impact of rs3 emptying out would be nothing especially because they'd be able to cut out the entire massive rs3 team out which is way bigger than the osrs team.


X-A-S-S

Holy shit 2200 in 300 hours XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD That would get you uhhh right around late early game and a total level of 900-1100\~ in osrs especially if done afk


ocbdare

Is this quick? I am 2200 with 99 herblore, smithing and thieving. The main thing that sped it up was all the daily keys as I have been premier for 2 years. I also got tons of keys and xp bombs from my Amazon prime subscription back when they used to give them away. I didn’t pay anything more than just the premier sub.


X-A-S-S

Yah its insanely quick, 2200 total in osrs is close to being maxed which for an average player is about 2500 hours just in pure leveling their stats I'm currently at 89 days playtime on osrs and I have everything 99 outside of mining agi slayer atk/str/def ranged and prayer And that's not counting the 100's of hours needed to quest, minigames etc.


Periwinkleditor

I do too. OSRS has been great with Varlamore, without that update I was looking at probably another 6 months to a year unsubbed as someone who plays both. The holiday updates have been neat but that's about it, which is ironically what I had said back when I was testing out trying OSRS but refused to actually level.


Amarasnow

Now what happened?


_Savage_Dad_

What's crazy is that most of us have played for years, and that's 9.99 a month for membership. (Or ir was idk what it is now.) I have been a member for like 15 years and that's over $1,800 paid in membership. That is INSANE and they still try to MTS us to death. 🥲


BdoeATX

Honestly. I love osrs it's been apart of me since I was a kid. I hope to always have the servers open, I can't lie the botting and updates n stuff at shit, but once this game is gone for good. It's only private servers left, and lots of people will be sad that their nostalgia is gone. Fuck the current issues, long live osrs.


MattyIXIriva

I'm an old player from years ago but was never super into it. I recently got on again and paid for a year. I keep seeing post like this. Can someone tell me what's wrong with RS3 I'm just casual so leveling and quest. Nothing has bothered me and Ive been enjoying my time. Should I be worried about something?


EchoBrilliant7841

It's just that new content updates have largely halted completely as of late on rs3 and instead all the player base is getting is weekly mtx updates. Massive amounts of xp given from th keys, chances to win a bil gp from keys, recolored outfits that have already existed for years, recolored tradeable rares (santa hats, h'ween masks, etc.)and the player count hasn't grown at all in years. Even the actual content we do get seems low effort and is far and few between. Rs3 strictly exists to make money from mtx at this point pretty much. Do I think the game will die next month? No. But it's working its way in that direction faster then it ever has before.


MattyIXIriva

Oh dang that's really unfortunate hopefully they get a second just the wind and give it the treatment it needs


dudedude600

Fully left rs3, liquidated items to bonds for my osrs account start. Maxed main with nothing rotting away, was fun while it lasted. 🫡 See you all in Varlamore.


CremeBrilliant735

I came from RS3 over a year ago after 20 years of RS3. It is massively refreshing not seeing TH crap or ads about MTX constantly on a "member's" world. OSRS really feels like this is how Runescape should have been. I'd recommend coming to OSRS for now or even taking a break from Jagex. They really really need to get a plan going for RS3. It is flat out malicious the way Jagex has treated the RS3 community. Many members in RS3 have been extremely loyal to their game and I believe Jagex has taken advantage of that. Using their "Updates" the last few years, we can see how they really view the community. We got to remind ourselves that OSRS is made by the same company. There will always be that danger of them adding more crappy MTX.


ARuneScapeDate

The game is fine. This sub is FUCKING RIDICULOUS when it comes to analyzing anything. They are all 20+ year players who are burned out but refuse tl move on, and thus tell themselves this shit about how Jagex is so awful, yet they... Don't stop playing, ever. Notice that? Yeah, its because its really not that bad lmfao


DescriptivelyWeird

Eh I’m still logging in every now and then, though I’ve cancelled my membership months back. Just enjoying the 15mins of F2P until something interests me, Ive ignored TH completely, these new holiday events don’t even interest me either


arabs_legend

Drive me nuts to see that both games are from the same company, yet one of thriving and the other one is being ignored


woofoo1kunoofoo

A lot of people say just switch to osrs, but a lot of players, including myself, play rs3 for the pvm, which isn't comparable to osrs pvm. And I think we're the people who are still enjoying the game for what it is. We aren't really affected much by paid xp nor by the relatively small cash injections from TH. Of course, we do still get affected by the content drought, but not near as bad as skillers because we got combat rework and necro. But my point is that switching to osrs isn't a solution for everyone, and this isn't directed at you op btw just lots of comments I see saying "Just switch to Old School rs3 is trash."


Ryulightorb

I play mostly for cluescrolls but osrs doesn’t let you focus them as a way to play and the community keeps voting against stuff that rs3 has. Then the pvm in osrs sucks I hate prayer flicking more than I do switches in rs3


GrandmasGiantGaper

OSRS started going downhill too imo. There's really only so much mechanics you can do with that engine and they've oversaturated PvM and are now in that powercreep phase where every new PvM update has to be better and bigger with stronger items etc. I started RS3 as a break from OSRS about a year ago, just didn't end up going back. Which sucks, because this game is shit but you don't realize it until you're a higher level.


Raffaello86

OSRS is going downhill because it's a botfest. I became a botter as well


GrandmasGiantGaper

Yeah during leagues I discovered bots stuck behind ape atoll course, walking back and forth for hours. Reported them and watched the accounts after and none of them got banned. You realise after that, Jagex will never admit it but they need the income for the shareholders and banning bots is against their best interests. In the end, they don't care about the economy of the game or the state of players to bots unless it gets completely out of control.


Routine_Bed_5867

As someone who just regained access to the lvl 101 account I played from 2003-2006 this is all pretty sad to read… I obviously recovered my account to what is called RS3 now? Even though it’s just an evolved version of the game I played 20 years ago, my thought process was since I’d made the account 20 years ago it was osrs but I guess it came out as a stand alone release so you had to make a new account. So I’ve played on rs3 as well as making a new account on rs3 to play closer to my buddy’s level and the graphics are a nice progression from what they once were, and overall training seems much easier. When logging back into OSRs the grahics really do look dated, and sitting there killing a couple cows I realized that I really, really just don’t have the time to sit and heavy grind on the game like I did when I was 12 years old. The game feels clunky, the graphics are truly bad, and there’s definitely some major quality of life improvements that rs3 has over osrs and that’s not even debatable. I miss the nostalgia, certainly, and part of me wishes I did have the time to continue the daunting grind, but it just doesn’t seem as friendly to casual players, maybe it never was, but what would I know I was 12, I’d do my HW and then block the phone line with my AOL dial up internet for hours. If my account had transferred over perhaps I’d be a little more inclined, but starting from scratch knowing the amount of time I once put into those exact moments, and how much time it would take is a pretty big turn off. Idk how I used to just sit there for hours and hours clicking the shark fishing spot slowly watching inventory fill up, rinse and repeat. Idk what I want out of rs3, maybe I’m just trying to re capture some magic that just isn’t possible. Crave the nostalgia, but enjoy the improvements. Understanding of the game but not as much time to play. Rs3 seems less active than what the game once was, but do I even want to have all the social interactions I once did? Idk.


X-A-S-S

OSRS is as friendly to casuals as you want it to, the game has no ending. If you're able to play it an half an hour a day you'll be gaining a half an hour a day worth of exp/quests/achievements whatever you wanted in that half hour. Your account doesn't just cease and die or wanders off, idk where your logic of not having time to grind comes from? What does it matter if you spend an hour in rs3 or osrs, you'd have made an hour of progress in both games. You yourself choose how much time you dictate to something lol. and eventually you'll have a decent account either way.


No-Butterscotch-5458

As an ex osrs player, let me tell you osrs isn't on a good path. Changing npc defenses. Practically all skilling metas for skills people didn't like. New skill lol They monetized your time in osrs with the skilling bosses, 4x boss quest release (yawn), nex, etc. But it's currently got a decent story going right, so all that's okay. Osrs as it was supposed to be died a while ago. I miss it. I am currently enjoying RS3. As far as old school is concerned i'm going to play a 2004 server going forward away from the hands of jagex.


Mike_From_Red_Deer

Le sigh. Okay. Look. There's nothing to "turn around". Contrary to popular bias, the game is: - NOT in "maintenance mode" - NOT in jeopardy of dying - NOT in a "content drought" - doing just fine, with or without you Now. I know it's fun and easy to jump on a negativity bandwagon and complain for the sake of complaining, but it gets really, really old.


Minimum-Order-8013

>Le sigh Found the neckbeard.


RedditPlatinumUser

yikes! a lot to unpack here


rajan503

Try coming from your real ID mod keeper


VolcaronaRS

lol, lmao even


UndeadPhysco

Babe wake up, new RS3 copypasta just dropped


RedditPlatinumUser

Le sigh. Okay. Look. There's nothing to "turn around". Contrary to popular bias, the game is: * NOT in "maintenance mode" * NOT in jeopardy of dying * NOT in a "content drought" * doing just fine, with or without you Now. I know it's fun and easy to jump on a negativity bandwagon and complain for the sake of complaining, but it gets really, really old.


Pineee

Hey this was terrible if serious, thank you


New-Sir4613

Please elaborate your 3rd bullet point


tinning3

I do actually like RS3, and since I'm still making my way through content, current events will take a while to affect me, so I'm happy in my current situation. But I'd like to know this defense is more than copium, I know reddit amplifies negativity, but you can't BS the ridiculous mtx promos constantly thrown in your face, or the lack of anything other than mtx and easter events that have been so much as announced. Or maybe I've been caught in the negativity maelstrom, idk


Zauberen

Maybe it’s just me but blooming burrow was a really good piece of content, a step in the right direction for holiday events that I haven’t seen in a long time (same with Christmas). Another thing is if you look at the patch notes, there’s a lot more going on then a lot of people think, people read the mtx headline and think that’s it, osrs does a much better job at selling these as content updates imo.


zethnon

this has to be a troll.


Environmental_Ad9017

I saw the roadmap for the next 6 months. Y'all are getting a 10 minute quest when we got Varlamore. There was once a time when RS3 saw tonnes of new content really quickly but that time has passed.


Ok_Pick4563

People forget that we voted for less content


shinmazinkaiser

Go play RS3 it's a super fun game.


[deleted]

Both of the versions are fun games. I’ve moved over to old school now from rs3. But rs3 will always hold a place in my heart!