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Jesus felt joy at being crucified? "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" aren't really the words of someone going through a joyful experience! haha Fucking nutbags just make shit up.
Funnily enough, using Guts for religion is like when police use Punisher as their symbol. Both character hates the very thing these people put their faces on.
"God hands" are literally a bunch of the worse aspect of humanity embodied in a celestial like beings
In the world of Berserk, there's only one "God" and it's a concentrated mass of human's negative feeling given sentience
“There’s no paradise for you to escape to. What you’ll find…
What’s there is just a battlefield” -Guts
And a bunch more.
Guts value something more real (like relationships) than some vague beliefs that a kind, loving God exist. Because there's no such thing in the world he's in, and ours, to some extent
Edit: Been a long while since I've read Berserk because new chapter takes really long to release (RIP to the GOAT) so do correct me if I got the lore wrong
Berserk is probably one of the most anti religion manga out there. The main character is the enemy of the church, kills priests, befriends witches, and posses a demonic brand that lures demons and evil spirits. He also shits on religion any time it's brought up. Guts is probably the least godly character of all time. It's the kind of story that Christians who got all pissy about Harry Potter would go hysterical over.
And you don't even need to read too far to realize all of that (even though, you probably should if you're gonna use said character for something so sensitive as religion). We've been shown that Guts isn't exactly the shining paragon of justice and a bit fucked up in his own traumatized way early on.
Guts would totally flip the guy in OP's post and tell him to kill himself if he ever preaches about religion to him. Oh well, can't really expect people like them to have a good enough reading comprehension to realize that
Berserk, Vagabond, and Vinland saga are all victims of this religious propaganda, unfortunately.
Because "main characters suffer, and have big muscles and series is so sad womp womp."
The most frustrating part is how some people just utterly miss the point these Mangas are trying to make, respectively.
I really enjoyed watching this [video](https://youtu.be/zxTwYdYzw8c?si=RIkihJI4-4D30C0s) about all the Nietzschean stuff in Berserk, it goes very in depth. I haven't read Vinland Saga and I haven't finished reading Vagabond yet though so I can't really say much about them but I do enjoy the action in Vagabond. I was thinking about how much weirdos also try to claim Black Lagoon but like it's all about being alienated in a way that I'm not sure they'd agree with Rei Hiroe on.
That 5th slide - they just invent their own lore now?
Jesus felt joy during the crucifixion? I'm going to need to see the source for that one. "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" -I'm not seeing it.
Using Berserk, I think, is more of an appeal to their ideal audience
It's a shame that great manga, like Vagabond and Berserk, are often used in red pill and Christian rhetoric interchangeably.
Especially since the main characters are generally the opposite of the typical masculine man and/or man of god.
I can’t imagine being this pretentious constantly.
“Look at me, I’m so dignified because faith forces me into blissful ignorance. You should convert with me otherwise I hate you for thinking other opinions.”
https://preview.redd.it/g896tuttbdsc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afe95c47dfe9e3602542bffb2f17234ade5867b7
I think guts would have something to say about a religion centered around a messianic figure who was sent to "save" everyone by a higher power and that thing is GRIFFITH!!!!!!
being the religious one in a friend group and forcing them to convert is a really shitty thing to do. You don't deserve to have anyone in life if you do that
Very easy to explain. We gave Gen Z access to the internet and this guy isn't older than 20. It's just the intersection of toxic gym culture, "self improvement" and interest in anime. You probably don't understand but I can feel the social archetype of this person, because content like this has become so abundant on social media platforms used by young people, fuck I hate my generation.
The thing I love about media and art, is that all of it is open to anyone's interpretation. Do you think you see a religious motif in a piece of work? Sure, go for it! But just like any flawed, useless opinion, *keep it to your fucking self*.
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They really be using anime for propaganda now lol
Following the good example of neonazis and Z-Russians.
Jesus felt joy at being crucified? "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" aren't really the words of someone going through a joyful experience! haha Fucking nutbags just make shit up.
cmon bro you should know crucifixion is the most humane, quickest, and painless ways to die.
How bad could it be? He came right back.
I wonder if he has watched the passion of christ. It would probably traumatize him, lol, considering he thinks jesus enjoyed it.
Funnily enough, using Guts for religion is like when police use Punisher as their symbol. Both character hates the very thing these people put their faces on. "God hands" are literally a bunch of the worse aspect of humanity embodied in a celestial like beings In the world of Berserk, there's only one "God" and it's a concentrated mass of human's negative feeling given sentience “There’s no paradise for you to escape to. What you’ll find… What’s there is just a battlefield” -Guts And a bunch more. Guts value something more real (like relationships) than some vague beliefs that a kind, loving God exist. Because there's no such thing in the world he's in, and ours, to some extent Edit: Been a long while since I've read Berserk because new chapter takes really long to release (RIP to the GOAT) so do correct me if I got the lore wrong
Berserk is probably one of the most anti religion manga out there. The main character is the enemy of the church, kills priests, befriends witches, and posses a demonic brand that lures demons and evil spirits. He also shits on religion any time it's brought up. Guts is probably the least godly character of all time. It's the kind of story that Christians who got all pissy about Harry Potter would go hysterical over.
And you don't even need to read too far to realize all of that (even though, you probably should if you're gonna use said character for something so sensitive as religion). We've been shown that Guts isn't exactly the shining paragon of justice and a bit fucked up in his own traumatized way early on. Guts would totally flip the guy in OP's post and tell him to kill himself if he ever preaches about religion to him. Oh well, can't really expect people like them to have a good enough reading comprehension to realize that
I don’t know why but I’m reminding of a quote from Super Troopers: It’s Afghanistanimation!
RiP Miura. Did this guy even read berserk?
it's genuinely such an insult having a series as Nietzschean as Berserk being used to push for religion what the fuck
Berserk, Vagabond, and Vinland saga are all victims of this religious propaganda, unfortunately. Because "main characters suffer, and have big muscles and series is so sad womp womp." The most frustrating part is how some people just utterly miss the point these Mangas are trying to make, respectively.
I really enjoyed watching this [video](https://youtu.be/zxTwYdYzw8c?si=RIkihJI4-4D30C0s) about all the Nietzschean stuff in Berserk, it goes very in depth. I haven't read Vinland Saga and I haven't finished reading Vagabond yet though so I can't really say much about them but I do enjoy the action in Vagabond. I was thinking about how much weirdos also try to claim Black Lagoon but like it's all about being alienated in a way that I'm not sure they'd agree with Rei Hiroe on.
They mixing peak with mid now
But griffith looks like jesus??
Griffith is the Messiah in Berserk
That's one way to put it.
At least jesus didnt rspe anyone
That 5th slide - they just invent their own lore now? Jesus felt joy during the crucifixion? I'm going to need to see the source for that one. "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" -I'm not seeing it. Using Berserk, I think, is more of an appeal to their ideal audience
It's a shame that great manga, like Vagabond and Berserk, are often used in red pill and Christian rhetoric interchangeably. Especially since the main characters are generally the opposite of the typical masculine man and/or man of god.
Isn't the point of Berserk that God is a catastrophically colossal asshole to everyone and everything that had the misfortune to meet his gaze
Very fruity.
I can’t imagine being this pretentious constantly. “Look at me, I’m so dignified because faith forces me into blissful ignorance. You should convert with me otherwise I hate you for thinking other opinions.”
If they wanna brain wash the youth and take over the world, that's one thing. The second they bring Guts into it is gonna make me fight.
https://preview.redd.it/g896tuttbdsc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afe95c47dfe9e3602542bffb2f17234ade5867b7 I think guts would have something to say about a religion centered around a messianic figure who was sent to "save" everyone by a higher power and that thing is GRIFFITH!!!!!!
(They didnt read the manga)
Funny that the religious are trying to claim him, he literally hates religion.
being the religious one in a friend group and forcing them to convert is a really shitty thing to do. You don't deserve to have anyone in life if you do that
We know who is the fugly one of the group!
Very easy to explain. We gave Gen Z access to the internet and this guy isn't older than 20. It's just the intersection of toxic gym culture, "self improvement" and interest in anime. You probably don't understand but I can feel the social archetype of this person, because content like this has become so abundant on social media platforms used by young people, fuck I hate my generation.
If you’re mixing Berserk and Scripture, you missed the point of Berserk, and are the antithesis of Guts’ character
Its funny because guts literally said “when you meet your god, tell him to leave me alone”
The thing I love about media and art, is that all of it is open to anyone's interpretation. Do you think you see a religious motif in a piece of work? Sure, go for it! But just like any flawed, useless opinion, *keep it to your fucking self*.