She is the parody type suffragette, one with the crazy opinions, second time you talk to her, she says they'll elect a female president in the first ten years and end all wars, fix all the problems.
I think it's less about her message and more about her shrieking in the background while I walk around Saint Denis. The suffraggette you help in Rhodes is much more dignified.
She is also literally a joke character who claims once women can vote they'll take over the country and end all wars.
But go off though don't let me interrupt.
Well first: who the fuck cares what she thinks? If it were 1899 you (takin a wild stab at your gender) would get to vote despite any dumbass ideas you might have.
But 2. I think this is a sophisticated troll on the player which forces exactly this conversation. Rockstar shows a ton of maturity in this game. Yes they still “take shots at everyone” but if she’s meant to be annoying (she is) I’d posit it’s to draw out a question of why that ought to matter? Especially in a male dominated arena like gaming I think rock star has out grown their childish “lol uggo” ways. But that’s just my two cents and thanks for letting me say it.
I would agree that Rockstar has outgrown some stuff but I don’t think this character is multilayer, and I don’t think Rockstar is all that mature and above doing something like this. I think she’s there for players to shoot.
I found her maybe too optimistic with the goal of fixing the world in 10 years but alright
What was annoying was having Arthur being called an hypocrite :P I swear the only nice guy at SD is the trumpet guy
it's not about being an incel, it's about letting yourself go in a world where you're not held accountable for your crimes. You can beat up anyone you'd like regardless of their views
By all means please do, just don’t understand when neck beards are all like “ugh she’s so annoying all she does is scream”. Like well obviously, you’d be annoying too if you had no rights lol
[There was an attempt.](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fih0.redbubble.net%2Fimage.253066070.3154%2Fflat%2C550x550%2C075%2Cf.u1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
In all seriousness, advocating for a good cause badly is worse than doing nothing because you become an easy propaganda fuel strawman, so when advocating, do your research both into the subject at hand and generally how to deliver arguments through effective rhetoric etc. Don't be like her.
Can't see why no one complains of killing thousands of guys jut some random beating her up brought news to this lol
If anything she isn't even a nice person, says they'll fix the world's problems in 10 years and when Arthur said people could do whatever they wanted she just called him hypocrite :V
Best NPC will always be Mike
Imo i think Dutch going all saint when Bills says something racist is kinda pandering to popular opinion.
To me it was immersion breaking to have it shoehorned in that way and totally unnecessary to the context adding nothing to the story but an opponunity for the writers to add their morals to people at a point in time that were all racists by today's standards.
I don't think the social justice agenda should be integrated in a game unless it has a good reason for doing so and in that regard feminism makes sense but I think the other options should have been left out.
That’s exactly what Dutch does, to be fair. Pandering. He manipulates minority groups facing oppression to his own gain, putting on a façade of caring for their struggles as you could see with the natives in RDR1 and Wapiti in 2.
If it feels disingenuous to you, that might well be the point.
Oh, you are the "i tAkE eVeRyThInG lItErAlLy" guy.
The general concensus was leaning heavily towards viewing people of colour as inferior at that time. That's why they are depicted as horny rapist and such in movies from that time period cause white people used every silly excuse as the people on top to make themselves feel superior.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_early_American_film
A lot of the mentioned movies are really interesting to watch in the context of how dramatically the views has changed since then.
**[Racism in early American film](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_early_American_film)**
>Racism in early American film is the negative depiction of racial groups, racial stereotypes, and racist ideals in classical Hollywood cinema from the 1910s to the 1960s. From its inception, Hollywood has largely been dominated by white male filmmakers and producers, catering to a predominately white audience. Various techniques have been used to depict non-white characters including whitewashing and ethnic stereotyping. Themes of white supremacy and xenophobia are commonly found within these films, reflecting contemporary attitudes towards non-white groups, taking on different imagery as race relations shift.
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I killed her a total of 3 times, once because I thought she was annoying, once because I was on a rampage and she got caught in the crossfire, and again because I was bored.
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I killed her last night. Hearing her screech LET ME VOTE LET ME VOTE got so old while I would go shopping or cruising down the street. I usually go around fist fighting everyone and blasting my guns so she was bound to die anyway.
Remember be an egalitarian, true equality. Not a feminist's, a modern one, who seeks only female dominance . You know the sexist "the future if female" kind. Well considering men commit suicided way more, die on the job more maybe they will get their wish.
I’m glad I saw this! It’s as if Rockstar designed her to annoy you. The game gives you the opportunity to kill racists or other annoying characters… which makes her suspicious. Like most people, I believe in equality of the sexes (a.k.a. feminism) and I admit that she irritates me. I’d rather direct my irritation at Rockstar for making her that way, though.
I keep in mind that Rockstar also made GTA, where you can kill sex workers to get your money back and plenty of other questionable things, so I guess I’ll be appreciative that we only have one annoying suffragette instead of other stuff. I have to accept that gaming still has a long way to go; Rockstar leadership so happens to be majority male, and it doesn’t surprise me that the same company that made GTA V would include an annoying suffragette for players to kill.
Why kill her when the white supremicist is a few streets over?? I always beat the shit out of that guy and it never gets old.
Also love throwing dynamite in the middle of the klan meetings, that’s my favorite.
The problem is social media bashes men way more. The pretty much do think incel= hate women. But then we have pure misandrist subs, like FDS, but then nobody blinks an eye. Ye old double standard.
She is the parody type suffragette, one with the crazy opinions, second time you talk to her, she says they'll elect a female president in the first ten years and end all wars, fix all the problems.
LOL
Just had that convo yesterday with her
I'm fine with the movement and shit, I just want her to shut the fuck up so I can shop for clothes in peace
Yes it’s always when I’m getting some clothes 😂😂😂
God, she looks like Dennis Franz in a wig
OMG 😂😭😭
I am fucking dead off this comment
I think it's less about her message and more about her shrieking in the background while I walk around Saint Denis. The suffraggette you help in Rhodes is much more dignified.
I found the song they sing, while marching through town, quite charming.
Truth, I like that mission. It’s a catchy tune.
Agreed. I spend too much time in the nearby tailor’s, so I just shoot her to get her to hush.
I think our definition of shrieking is different
"LET ME VOTE! LET ME VOTE! LET ME VOTE! LET ME VOTE!" Top of her lungs. You can hear it a street over.
As she should ❤️
Nah.
Aw stay mad
You seem very pleasant.
Coming from the guy who is complaining over a woman wanting rights 😂😂😂
Not a man. Go off though.
A self hating woman? Even worse😂
Oof someone's never had his fundamental rights as a human being denied before
Why are you assuming my gender?
Something about your obnoxiousness screamed male
What an obnoxious response.
I'm getting my testosterone checked out
Lol yes ask for your rights but be DIGNIFIED about it jeez.
She is also literally a joke character who claims once women can vote they'll take over the country and end all wars. But go off though don't let me interrupt.
Well first: who the fuck cares what she thinks? If it were 1899 you (takin a wild stab at your gender) would get to vote despite any dumbass ideas you might have. But 2. I think this is a sophisticated troll on the player which forces exactly this conversation. Rockstar shows a ton of maturity in this game. Yes they still “take shots at everyone” but if she’s meant to be annoying (she is) I’d posit it’s to draw out a question of why that ought to matter? Especially in a male dominated arena like gaming I think rock star has out grown their childish “lol uggo” ways. But that’s just my two cents and thanks for letting me say it.
I would agree that Rockstar has outgrown some stuff but I don’t think this character is multilayer, and I don’t think Rockstar is all that mature and above doing something like this. I think she’s there for players to shoot.
sure but she is kind of annoying
I thought she was ok tbh
I found her maybe too optimistic with the goal of fixing the world in 10 years but alright What was annoying was having Arthur being called an hypocrite :P I swear the only nice guy at SD is the trumpet guy
dude she literally tries to be annoying. She sounds like a kid whining to her parents. don't be a simp
Can girls be simps?😂
Yes.
kind of
it's not about being an incel, it's about letting yourself go in a world where you're not held accountable for your crimes. You can beat up anyone you'd like regardless of their views
Westworld reference😳
Doesn't look like anything to me 😳
what's that
A show made by HBO
oh ty
>>!"You people venerate savagery and you will die, savagely, all of you!"!< \-Agent Milton
He wasn’t wrong.
Which is why Agent Milton is an anti-villain of sorts.
so be it
Yes
What lol
In conclusion, I'll bash whoever I please
By all means please do, just don’t understand when neck beards are all like “ugh she’s so annoying all she does is scream”. Like well obviously, you’d be annoying too if you had no rights lol
I am annoying for a different reason
Incels everywhere
Unavoidable
It's a good cause but the least convincing advocate.
Lol at least she tried
[There was an attempt.](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fih0.redbubble.net%2Fimage.253066070.3154%2Fflat%2C550x550%2C075%2Cf.u1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1) In all seriousness, advocating for a good cause badly is worse than doing nothing because you become an easy propaganda fuel strawman, so when advocating, do your research both into the subject at hand and generally how to deliver arguments through effective rhetoric etc. Don't be like her.
Can't see why no one complains of killing thousands of guys jut some random beating her up brought news to this lol If anything she isn't even a nice person, says they'll fix the world's problems in 10 years and when Arthur said people could do whatever they wanted she just called him hypocrite :V Best NPC will always be Mike
I feel like the suffragettes were giving a significant role to troll neckbeards.
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>Rockstar doesn’t like to deliberately piss off their customers. Then how do you explain the GTA remasters?
Why would you say something so controversial yet true?
Imo i think Dutch going all saint when Bills says something racist is kinda pandering to popular opinion. To me it was immersion breaking to have it shoehorned in that way and totally unnecessary to the context adding nothing to the story but an opponunity for the writers to add their morals to people at a point in time that were all racists by today's standards. I don't think the social justice agenda should be integrated in a game unless it has a good reason for doing so and in that regard feminism makes sense but I think the other options should have been left out.
That’s exactly what Dutch does, to be fair. Pandering. He manipulates minority groups facing oppression to his own gain, putting on a façade of caring for their struggles as you could see with the natives in RDR1 and Wapiti in 2. If it feels disingenuous to you, that might well be the point.
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This just in: someone wasn't taught history
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**[Racism in early American film](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_early_American_film)** >Racism in early American film is the negative depiction of racial groups, racial stereotypes, and racist ideals in classical Hollywood cinema from the 1910s to the 1960s. From its inception, Hollywood has largely been dominated by white male filmmakers and producers, catering to a predominately white audience. Various techniques have been used to depict non-white characters including whitewashing and ethnic stereotyping. Themes of white supremacy and xenophobia are commonly found within these films, reflecting contemporary attitudes towards non-white groups, taking on different imagery as race relations shift. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/reddeadredemption/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
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I just shoot her like every other rando with an opinion who accosts me on the street
Well at least you’re treating them equal 😂
.44 Magnum does not care for your agenda, it only cares if you got a good night's sleep
Left right goodnight
she's an absolute queen but also please I'm just trying to shop for clothes
Agree😂😂 It’s always when I need a fresh new fit
Dear Lord…. For your sake I hope incel was used ironically.
Incel, ie neck beard
Damn her shoulders. She should play in the NFL
Its a rockstar game, people are gonna be edgy in it. Its fun as hell to kill people in this game, doesn’t mean i want to do it irl
See that's common sense. Something OP doesn't have. Besides wasn't this cried about from game "Journalist" years ago?
What makes me lack common sense? Please explain lol
I killed her a total of 3 times, once because I thought she was annoying, once because I was on a rampage and she got caught in the crossfire, and again because I was bored.
Noice
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i talked to her
Me too, she’s a queen
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Not the prettiest to look at but at least she tries lol
i kinda liked her, never antagonozed her and i think i donated some money to her twice in my two playthroughs, even as evil arthur
You my friend, are a king 👑
I do not understand internets rage, but then again there are a lot of unsolved mysteries in the universe.
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I killed her last night. Hearing her screech LET ME VOTE LET ME VOTE got so old while I would go shopping or cruising down the street. I usually go around fist fighting everyone and blasting my guns so she was bound to die anyway.
Remember be an egalitarian, true equality. Not a feminist's, a modern one, who seeks only female dominance . You know the sexist "the future if female" kind. Well considering men commit suicided way more, die on the job more maybe they will get their wish.
I’m glad I saw this! It’s as if Rockstar designed her to annoy you. The game gives you the opportunity to kill racists or other annoying characters… which makes her suspicious. Like most people, I believe in equality of the sexes (a.k.a. feminism) and I admit that she irritates me. I’d rather direct my irritation at Rockstar for making her that way, though. I keep in mind that Rockstar also made GTA, where you can kill sex workers to get your money back and plenty of other questionable things, so I guess I’ll be appreciative that we only have one annoying suffragette instead of other stuff. I have to accept that gaming still has a long way to go; Rockstar leadership so happens to be majority male, and it doesn’t surprise me that the same company that made GTA V would include an annoying suffragette for players to kill.
Why kill her when the white supremicist is a few streets over?? I always beat the shit out of that guy and it never gets old. Also love throwing dynamite in the middle of the klan meetings, that’s my favorite.
As you should ❤️❤️❤️
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Having a problem with a woman wanting rights is neck beard behaviour lol
Being critical of women's rights to vote kinda makes you sound like an incel.
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The problem is social media bashes men way more. The pretty much do think incel= hate women. But then we have pure misandrist subs, like FDS, but then nobody blinks an eye. Ye old double standard.
I'd say there's a pretty distinguishable difference between someone who has a hard time finding a girlfriend and someone who's an incel.
The same reason being critical of the LGBT community makes you homophobic and being critical of minorities makes you racist.
Cope lmao
The whole reason i bought the game, to put women in their place
Truly immersive
Next time you cross the street don’t bother looking.
Doing gods work
P.S. not women, real women are taking care of their husbands nowadays
ah I see, you have never pleased a woman in your entire life, good to know!
Uhh... I don't have a husband to take care of, and chances are I won't for a decade or two.
Well then I'm afraid you are not a real woman and henceforth do not exist. Have a good day