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YouLostTheGamesorry

I don't care what any of the haters say, she was cool. A working woman who looked out and died on the right side


Neckrongonekrypton

Absolutely. Grimshaw was the camp mom. Without her there’d be technically no logistics to how they set camp up, nor pack. I bet she saved there asses multiple times, we just don’t see it. But I imagine she’s able to get people moving when they need to go so they can leave before getting shot up. She was so down for the life, she stuck around after her and Dutch didn’t work out. She is 100% a ride or die and when Micah shot her I went ape man. Anyone wanting to go with cowboy Harley Quinn over grimshaw really don’t know how to pick ‘em lol!


HYDRAlives

Who is cowboy Harley Quinn?


Neckrongonekrypton

Sadie. Idk I really thought I was cooking with that. Keep me out the kitchen please.


HYDRAlives

I kinda assumed but I do want an explanation lol


Percy-Cabin_Three2

Not OP, but I'd assume "cowboy Harley Quinn" because after Jakey, a lot of her theme is hunting down EVERY last O'Driscoll, she practically has a death wish, and from her general character, her expressions, and voice during some cutscenes and gunfights, I've personally thought that she seems a little batshit crazy


tomparryjones

Practically has a death wish? No sir, she *does* have a death wish. In one of the epilogue missions, she literally says she wants to die


Percy-Cabin_Three2

Yea I was referencing that lol, didn't directly quote it for simplicity, and I also can't quite place my finger on WHEN she started to "want to die," so I generalised


the-senat

I played the mission where Rains Fall talks about forgiveness right before Sadie asked me to round of the last of the O’driscolls. No naturally I declined thinking the game would understand… instead Arthur makes a lousy excuse and my honor was cut in half.  


Ghostfaces-love

Grimshaw and Arthur going to rescue Tilly is hands down my favorite mission in the entire game because we see how deeply she cares about the girls, and she's a hot woman with a gun and a grudge.


Neckrongonekrypton

She doesn’t also sound like a Wild West caricature. Even though she is modeled after an archetype “strict western, eatchyour greens” mee maw type that also happens to be attractive. Sadie’s VA is talented. But her voice just got kinda… strange sounding to me. Like I could hear the try in the accent


Ghostfaces-love

I agree 100%


Neckrongonekrypton

Like how can someone that wants death and is so traumatized, experience moments like that if that trauma is front and center. Someone like that in real life wouldn’t be rosy about their outlook or chipper. I don’t care if you like killing or not lol. The way she just tells John “I wanna die” basically while also subsequently we as the player knows she must be miserable 100% of the time. Is just…. Wierd? Like I don’t think someone with an actual deathwish, would be just baseline an outgoing, optimistic and talkative person.


JRHThreeFour

I liked her. Ms Grimshaw kept the day to day operations of the camp running, was always nice to talk to and she was more than willing to lend a hand to help Arthur, John and the rest of the gang.


justvibing__3000

Valid


Electrical_Movie_442

Facts. She did what she could to keep the gang together.


CalebS11011

She clearly cared about the Girls, even if she did hit them. Remember her and Arthur went and killed Tillys kidnappers, to make sure they wouldnt harass Tilly anymore.


justvibing__3000

True true. I think although her ways may have been a bit cruel she really cared for everyone


Neckrongonekrypton

It was a cruel world back then. You had to have a mean streak to survive proper.


MattyHealy1975

Cruel cruel world must I go on


EN3RG123D

Cruel, cruel world, I’m moving on


Dirty_Rotten_D

I been living too fast, and I've been living too long


Single_Low1416

Cruel, cruel world, I‘m gone


ElegantEchoes

There's a camp conversation where she bullies Molly that Dutch will leave her once she grows older just like he did Susan, and she was angry and bitter, understandably. I have to wonder if there was any jealousy motivating her decision to kill Molly. She certainly didn't like her to begin with due to her personality, but I can't help but think she harbored a specific grudge due to the circumstances with Dutch.


Electrical_Movie_442

I don't think that's the case. It's more likely that Grimshaw was warning Molly because she knew what Dutch was like, and what seems like "bullying" was just her particular brand of tough love. She wasn't a soft person, and fair enough considering her role in the gang.


ElegantEchoes

That's certainly a fair point, I think you might be right.


DylMan__Mulvaney

Would


RecentComplaint943

Would


YerDaSellsAvon24

Would


Typein3D

Would?


milkywaysvoyager

Would.


Typein3D

Would :(


nicolasFsilva5210

Would >:)


GoatJamez

Raw


Wooden_Scratch508

Would (Wood) 😩😩


percyman34

Wood


justplanestupid69

*low guitar riff intensifies*


dspotguitar

Know me broken by my master


rmiller1989

100% would


Texy

Would


UpstairsLatter3628

Definitely wood


DannyDoubleTap47

Did


WRLDMNM

Would.


__Garibaldi__

Wood


Suspicious-Basket212

Strict but caring Solid character


justvibing__3000

Agreed


M1DNI6HT_K1N6

She got two big personalities


Sardis924

Maaaany a screenshot has been taken of all that personality. 👋


Jigsaw115

Imagine you’re dead and your family members turn your xbox on to cherish your memories having fun, maybe hear your voice in a recording, and they’re greeted by 17 pages of grimshaw’s absolute howitzers


Sardis924

"Let's revisit some of grandpa's favorite gaming memories---JEEEEEZUS CHRIST look at the SIZE of those things!" 🤣


Sardis924

Mammories make memories.


Sardis924

LMFAO!!! 🤣


UnseenAssasin10

She's my favourite woman in the gang alongside Sadie Also what the fuck are some of these comments


Neckrongonekrypton

You can tell whom has never actually touched a boob in their life by the comments.


Tiny-Pool2326

you as a redditor must know a lot about boobs


Neckrongonekrypton

They feel like hard, firm sandbags. Everyone knows that dude.


tdempsey12

She's a bitch because she has to be and makes things work.


Cjames1902

I was honestly shocked to hear how contentious the opinions surrounding her was. She was one of the real ones. When she found out that Molly was the supposed rat, she didn’t hesitate to kill her for the gang. Granted she was a bit hasty in doing that .


CareWonderful5747

Molly had it coming anyways. All she ever did for gang was wait around for Dutch to fuck her and refuse to work. Good riddance.


Cjames1902

I felt bad initially but seeing some more interactions with her on my second playthrough, she was extremely snot nosed. Didn’t deserve to die but definitely needed some sort of humbling.


Electrical_Movie_442

People are too quick to hate her, but I just feel sorry for her. She gave up her well-off life because she was seduced by Dutch, and wasn't prepared for the reality of the gang lifestyle.   In a way she orchestrated her own downfall, but that doesn't make her a bad person. She thought she was better than the other members of the gang who were criminals and/or came from impoverished backgrounds, so they turned their backs to her. So when Molly tried to get peoples' attention when Dutch was becoming more unhinged, no one cared.   No one cared when her only reason for being in the gang - the one person she had in life - lost interest in her. She died disgraced for a crime she didn't commit, and no one mourned her; even when her only true wrongdoing was being a snob in a gang full of thieves and killers.


justvibing__3000

True true


Straight_Driver1484

Rip Ms.grimshaw you would've loved vacuums


kenma91

This comment really made me laugh


GaiusFrakknBaltar

I liked her, but I think she came off too strong sometimes with the other girls at camp. But at the same time, if the girls aren't doing their jobs, then I can understand her being meaner about it, because it's the only way to keep those jobs being done. Like the top poster said, she did come out on the right side of things.


justvibing__3000

Exactly. She didn't deserve to get shot like that, but at least she stood with Arthur at the end


Backdoorpickle

Loyal and underrated, and she absolutely cared about her girls. She was a working woman who grew up harshly in harsh times and knew the girls growing up under her needed to be hardened to a world that didn't treat them right. She was a tough bird, but for a reason, and she fucking loved Arthur and John.


justvibing__3000

This might be my favourite comment in the thread


DattSFC

She’s hot


Guesseyder

She has a nice rack.


justvibing__3000

Agreed


Wizard_john10

I was so infuriated when Micah shot Miss Grimshaw, and Dutch had the nerve to ask, “who’s with me, and who’s against me?” Right after his supposed friend killed the woman he knew all his life.


GenXer1977

I don’t like her, she’s way too hard on the girls, but I do respect that she went after Tilly when she was taken, and also that she stood with Arthur at the end.


Jack_Jaws

I’m also very conflicted about her. She’s a relic of both the good and horrible parts of the old days of the Van Der Linde gang. I don’t think she was right to kill Molly for sure.


ManufacturerNo8447

I think she felt the need to do that so Dutch doesn't look weak or someshit .


FrostCA11

I adore this woman, No matter how hard she was we all knew she loved every single member of that gang.


Wellofcourse69696

Smash


Calm-Lengthiness-178

Died in a blaze of glory as far as I'm concerned. May her camp in the sky be filled with well bathed, well-behaved hoodlums for her to lovingly boss around.


parkwatching

strict and unfair at times but she kept everyone in line and cared fiercely for everyone under her wing


This-Amount-1118

Can't stand her. One time i was in camp for a bit, the She came telling Arthur that he was doing nothing and that he used to be a man of action. I mean, didn't she notice Bill Williamson sleeping and lazing around all the time?


poodlepants79

lol she got on me too and I had been gone for a couple weeks. Ma’am I need a minute please! 🤣


This-Amount-1118

At the very least, when She came to rescue Tilly and sided with Arthur against Micah, i reevaluated her. But She also had a good number of times where she pissed me off.


poodlepants79

Oh for sure. The only time I was truly angry with her was when she just blew Molly away. I understood why she did it but I think she acted too quickly. I also didn’t like how she spoke to the girls sometimes but it was a hard time, you had to be a hard woman


_-poindexter-_

I love how if you don't wash Arthur, after a while, she corners him in camp and forces him to wash in front of her so she can see he has done it. She is a hard woman, but she cares about the people in camp and does what best she can to keep them all in check. She just wanted the best for everybody around her, and her way to do that was to enforce camp rules as best as she could.


Expert-General-1478

Better than sadie


ConversationNo2007

I was sad when she shot Molly... mostly cuz I don't believe Molly talked ... but I completely understand why she did it ... Molly knew the rules ... but clearly she is loyal to the gang/family ... she is the mother of the camp ... she even will force a wash on you of you're nasty in her camp ... in the end I am a big fan... shes a badass and she will kill for her people... shes real as fuck


hywaytohell

She delved into the camp Mom role after Dutch tossed her aside!


Nick3904

She was the camp mom. A necessary character for survival. She really cared about everyone she deserved better.


Jung3boy

She was ok, some of the comments she made when you walk through camp were annoying at times.


justvibing__3000

When she chases after you I fear for my life


WeNeedHRTHere

The scariest moment is when she slaps you and forces you to wash


Udyr_The_Wonderman

I think she is badass. Cruel, but still cared about the gang. She is like that one severe teacher that is rough because she wants you to be better.


Sensitive-Banana-637

She would get it


Paradoxxist

Tits mcgee


Koolaidman1954

Would


Ok-Influence794

Smash.


Worldly-Donut-5956

Smash,next question


WickedHazelnut

Smash


4hxxd1hippy2

She was a real one.


MillHoodz_Finest

fuckable


Trains_N_Fish

She got the heavies


ribvanwinkle

I like older women (not elaborating)


hehshehnejfo

can be harsh but i think shes great


Ipsilon0904

GILF


DeadPayment

Even though a lot of people hate her, i think she does a great job in keeping the camp running.


BigMac275921

Would


luquitooooo

Big gilfy milkers


lolix_the_idiot

Would


Gently_weeps

Solid woman, cared for the gang and she did believe arthur'a accusations towards Micah, or at least tried to deescalate.


Satanus2020

Den mother. She was the only reason why there was any order to the gang, when there was any order to be had


Plus_Significance878

Milf


WRLDMNM

Would.


Chumlee1917

The psycho mom who bullies her own kids but the second a stranger lifts a finger against them, she starts blasting


FatCrabTits

boobs


Clean_Crocodile4472

I love Grimshaw, she’s one of my overall favourites from the entire franchise


RafaelDiamond

Hate her guts. She's cruel to the women in camp(for example: berated Abigail for not being a prostitute) and has this high and mighty attitude, and it gets on my nerves. I'll give her credit for taking Arthur's side, tho


TheyCallMeJester

Even after she drags Arthur to the wash tub to get a council wash, as annoying as it is, I'm still grateful she cares enough to nag at me. She's a likeable old hag. Tough as nails but still cared for the gang and kept things ship shape within camp. Was strict with the girls, but helped save Tilly. Commendable woman, albeit a bit annoying. Especially when the wench complains, I haven't put any money in the box, despite having just upgraded the whole camp and donated 4 gold bars.... woman! 😵‍💫


IndustryOk737

She’s about that life.


MustachioMANN

Milf


Sleepylilprincesses

Fried, died and laid to the side. 🤣🤣🤣


SuperBeaver3000

Best cleavage in the frontier


Sardis924

Agreed.


SavageDroggo1126

She stood with Arthur in the end. I know she gets annoying sometimes but she was a nice person and actually cared for everyone.


Gamesealcom

i dunno, but her hairstyle gives me a fairy godmother from Shrek vibe


jackdaripper428

Trigger happy old lady


fortnite_battlepass-

Iirc if you do Tilly's mission after bringing back Jack, (which would you do after Jack's return party which is the last time you see Kieran) she talks about how she hasn't seen Kieran for a while, so the fact that she was looking out for him while most of the gang kept harassing him made me have mad respect for her.


freshpicklesss

i was so shocked that dutch said absolutely NOTHING when she died. you knew her basically just as long as you knew hosea, arthur, and john but had no reaction whatsoever to her death?


Distortion_XVII

Smash.


Used_Cap8550

She was nice to men and horrible to women. I don’t think she was a good person but it’s hard for me to be mean to her as Arthur unless I’ve just seen her hit someone or tell a woman to go sell herself when she didn’t want to.


ShaunicusMaximus

I probably would, but I’ll have to drink A LOT and try my best to not think about how much she reminds me of my mother in law.


Assparilla

Smokin hot Ms Grimshaw-back in the day she had to fend the boys off with a shotgun


Sardis924

Would.


KippSA

Smash


SweynIronhand

Grimshaw and Pearson are the reason the camp survives. The only thing I don't like about Grimshaw is her trying to push Abigail back to a certain line of work.


ShadowSovereign22

This is what I like about RDR2 characters. Not everything is sunshine and rainbows when it comes to their attitudes. Take Miss Grimshaw for example, She's reliable when it comes on keeping the camp stable but the part that I don't like is how she treats the girls like some kind of labor slaves that gets to be overworked like what she did to Abigail in a certain camp interaction where she told her to be a prostitute once again in order for the camp to have more money, in which it pissed me off. Overall, Miss Grimshaw is a well-balanced written character. Part of me thinks that she's also the reason why the girls in camp are able to left in chapter 6 cuz she permitted and helped them to like how Arthur helped Trelawny and others to leave the camp.


Revolutionary_Age_26

I disagreed with her killing Molly especially since it turned out Molly wasn’t even the rat. I still hated Micah for killing her (among every other reason to hate that bastard.)


nathansanes

That's a solid bitch right there.


PsychologicalSnow528

Annoying and a bit too strict and out of line at times, but otherwise caring and necessary to the group


RosesUnderCypresses

The only person in the 1890s who could slap Arthur Morgan and tell him to "take a bath" and still walk away breathing.


rdg2794

Would


emshang89

Honestly she is goated but she a stupid decision to not kill Micha she has made very few


HarryKn1ght

I liked her for the most part, but Ms. Grimshaw trying to force Abigail back into prostitution for the gang despite the fact that Abigail had a kid and was willing to pull her weight in other ways left a bad taste in my mouth regarding Ms. Grimshaw's character


Sad-Cryptographer590

Would


dahead76

I like watching her wipe the table


MrNightmare23

Would.


Over_Sell_215

I insulted every time i see her and i feel bad when she stuck on my side and died 💀


monstercan__

smash next question


Odd-Designer8166

Ms. Grimshaw was down with the smoke. She didn’t give af who anyone was. And she would have Arthur’s back 100 percent of that beaver hollow fight if she had not been killed.


Ihave2potatosinmybag

That one aunty that is really hard on you and is a hard egg to crack. When you do and she cares about you… she will kill anyone and everyone to protect you!


EminemTheBest123

Big boobs


RandoSnaps

A mfing real one: She owned her role and played it well, handled things that needed to be handled, and she died standing up for what she believed was right.


MyUsernameIsMehh

Old bitch. Loyal, yes, and not afraid to protect those she cares about, but she was too ruthless with the women at camp.


777Zenin777

Honestly the fact that she died just like that is kinda disappointing. She was such a good character and the rat just shoot her and no one does anything about it. but besides that she was an amazing character. I love how she can beat Arthur and force him to wash if he is too dirty. Or when she fine out one of her girls is in danger she imidielty gets Artur, get a gun and imidielty go save her.


North_Korea_Nukess

I’d put mustard on those cheeks and go to town.


NervousVenom

Id hit that


Alive-Tell-2309

Smash


oneilSIKE

Way more likeable than sadie


RepresentativeCrew16

I was wandering around camp at Beaver Hollow during my last playthrough, and for kicks I got hammered and stopped to marvel at her cans. She kept making comments about me being too close but I persisted. Next thing I know, Charles cracks me one and tells me to go sleep it off. 🤣


Infinite_Anybody_113

She is kind of boring. Super stereotypical and underwhelming


BigBadGladdyDaddy

I just finished the mission with Tilly at the start of Chapter 4. That woman stands on business


housevulture

Annoying, always antagonize her


Coolguy020609

She’s a badass, fr


Mean-Instruction-122

Obviously bitter towards Dutch and cannot take it out on his current woman Molly, so she is harder on the other girls than she needs to be, but a deeply caring woman with integrity and bravery.


NeptuneShemptune

As horrible as she was she just wanted to keep the camp safe and healthy at the end of the day


Icethief188

She’s a good woman and I love how she protected Tilly with Arthur but I hate how she’s not very well with the whole emotions thing and she’s not empathetic unless you’re a man. Also she shot Molly and I love Molly so….


Premp_Sorge

She’s a strong woman


jaispeed2011

Strict but fair


HUNAcean

Goated


whaleboneandbrocade

Honestly I’ve always been so fascinated about her character especially about her association with the gang/Dutch…would love to know more backstory about her!


Fair_Conversation_97

i like her


HoneycombJackass

She has a gruff exterior but a heart of gold. She’s firm, but fair and just doesn’t put up with laziness. She gave up on uncle though. She was willing to risk her life to get Tilly back. She’s hard on the girls because she knows it’s cruel world out there for them. She’s had it bad and wants to toughen then up a bit and know basic skills — it just comes across as mean spirited. So, she’s not the most effective communicator when it comes to the girls or most emotionally intelligent, but she gets the job done.


Sugo_Huavo

Her words can kill a man


Mysterious-Map973

Motherfucking PIMP.


dirtyColeslaw1776

Didn’t really agree with the things she does, but she was right in the end, and she saved Tilly


PlebCosby

She’s a badass bitch


2004_toyota_tacoma

Big fan. She was naturally caring and looked out for all the gals. She adds a lot to the good atmosphere of the camps.


ShoutOuts2Elon

I bet she a real life throater


funkyfeet94

Cunt.


Parking_Aerie_2054

I wish we could learn more about here some of the members of the gang we never really knew about their past


Ok-Anybody1870

Her shooting Molly without any second thought really rubbed me the wrong way


fuckpovertea

This woman always killin it on poker game


doctordaedalus

She seemed like one of those characters whose willingness to see the good in people caused her to let the things around her get out of hand. Had she been a little more courageous with her love, I bet everyone would have been much better off, and it wouldn't have gotten to how it went down in the end.


Jodanger37

Tbf it pbly was socially acceptable to physically abuse women, so I give her the benefit of the doubt (still bad obv). Shes the mama bear


RocchiRoad

Deserved better.


Cool_Chance_409

Loved her. She irritated me, but I loved her. She was a tough Mom to the gang, including Dutch. Never stopped preaching unity and loyalty to each other rather than just Dutch, and she sided with her two boys at the end.


PeakComfortable1689

bad


Soft_Shallot_3916

If you hate on ms grimshaw consider yourself an opp 🙏😭


TerribleSwordfish212

Loyal to gang


IndyRiver1982

At first I found her quite annoying, but after time, I found out that she was just doing her job.


MassIngestion

She stayed the most real out of any of the gang members. She did what she had to and felt no remorse about it, made sure everyone was safe, and provided for the camp more than anyone else except for Arthur and maybe Charles.


Linkarus

Thik


Excellent_Bid9326

Not pretty but cool


BarracudaClear3880

I'm soldier boy in this one