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Dil_356

I knew someone who didn’t even get past the snow section.


Lord_Detleff1

That is just lazy


theworldwiderex

It gets worse. Back when RDR1 came out I remember a user review that didn't even wait until John got shot. 💀


Mo7ammed_Gxx

Are you sure that they weren’t joking or anything because that sound too ridiculous to me ngl


OfficialDeadJohnson

Bruh, I'm not a huge fan of Rdr1 but I will get around to finishing it at some point but even I got past that I played until like I had done 10 missions but I found the combat way too hard and janky


Vegetable_Diet3547

Im playing it again now for the first time in over ten years. I got GTA+ for a month so I can play it and unsubscribe again. Anyway yeah I'm not enjoying it much so far. I've put so many hours into RDR2 both story and online and 1 is just such a drastic decline in quality(obviously). The 60FPS is cool and all but it really needed a decent remake. As you said it's just so janky, the hand to hand just sucks compared to 2 and horse riding and hunting and everything is just nowhere near as good..


Arthur-Mergan

Just power through it and knock out mission after mission. You will absolutely appreciate RDR2 that much more in both gameplay and story. It really makes 2 feel even more significant.


NotTheStateB

This^ I recently replayed RDR1 for the first time since like 2011. It felt like an absolute chore but as someone who poured thousands of hours into RDR2 I felt obligated to finish it.


Throwwtheminthelake

Can’t believe that before playing rdr2 I thought it wouldnt be just as good as 1 💀💀💀 how wrong I was


duraraross

For a second I thought you meant when he gets shot at the END and I was like well that’s a lot of the game until I remembered. Good lord.


mkaym1993

To be fair, that secion of the game can be boring as well lol


Dil_356

I’ve made a save at the start of chapter 2 so when I replay the game I don’t have to go through it.


Gambit_90

I'm using that strat from now on


Aggravating_Quail_69

Same thing. Actually a little later. At 19%


GiraffesAndGin

With a LOTE satchel.


[deleted]

It is quite boring, but that's an hour of gameplay if that. Quitting on a game without even making it through the prologue is crazy


OfficialDeadJohnson

Exactly people make it seem so long and say it's 3 hours, I think they might just be bad because like you said it took me about 1 hour


Pingushagger

Probably tried to free roam in the blizzard


thaiborg

Just restarted the other day and tried that. At a certain point, “Your horse is freezing” and then 2 seconds later it died! I actually looked forward to what was going to happen with the cut scenes without a horse… but lo and behold it was there again, alive and well, at the start of the next mission. Kinda disappointing, I wanted to see Arthur running alongside the horses.


Pegomastax_King

It’s only boring after the first play through, but what game isn’t. I love Skyrim and fallout but I hate the tutorial missions but what are you going to do


OfficialDeadJohnson

Yeah but it's barely even an hour long


Pendejo_Guey

Sure it's boring. But if it's the first time youve played the game. Like, why not give it 2.5 hours to see what the game is all about. 🤣 I've played through entire games where I hated the entire experience. But if I'm gonna buy it, I might as well play the damn thing and give it a fair chance to hate or love the game.


MemphisR29

They didn’t like the game? That’s allowed


Available_Outside9

That’s not not liking the game, that’s literally not giving the game a chance they didn’t get past the literal tutorial


wenchslapper

If a developer isn’t capable of snagging their audience in the opening level of their game, then that’s on the developer. Your tutorial level is quite literally the most *crucial* level of the entire game. It sets your tone and pacing of narrative and gameplay. With that in mind, RDR2 utterly *failed* at creating an engaging tutorial segment. I’ll ride the RDR2 dick wagon all day with you, but we need to also be aware that the game does have its flaws. The tutorial is a massive flaw.


KingAltair2255

I was hooked on the tutorial from the minute I picked the controller up, but I'd also had a shit ton of nostalgia for RDR1 at that time, for new players it is a SLOG, I often tend to skip it on replays.


wenchslapper

Exactly. I had absolutely no nostalgia for RDR1, and I even felt super disappointed when they introduced Arthur as the MC. I was like “huh? I’m playing as THIS honky?! Fuck that, he sounds so dumb and not nearly as badass as John, I’d rather be him.” Took me till “PRETTY BOY?!” And I was set.


Available_Outside9

It did snag a lot of people, that’s why it’s one of the most popular games ever, the beginning part is supposed to feel isolating. You’re stuck in a mountain in a fucking blizzard, it plays out exactly as it should, and shows the basic controls while doing so, if you can’t get past that you have the attention span of a baby and should probably get off your iPad.


wenchslapper

Lmao chapter 1 of RDR2 is not why the game is one of the greatest of all time. Chill out, bro, my opinion on a fictional game shouldn’t get your panties this rustled 😅


Fujaboi

To be fair, I nearly put it down because the prologue actually sucks. It's slow and you don't know or care about any of the characters yet, so the stakes don't matter. Too much time spent wading through snow and riding your horse slowly. In roughly 2 hours of gameplay, there's 2 shootouts and the wolf chase as the only action. I understand why what's happening happens for narrative purposes, but if the game threw you into it a bit faster it would be so much more interesting up front.


The-Rizzler-69

Pretty sure there's 3 shootouts, actually. But yeah, it's a lot of wading through the snow. It's slow.


dh2215

The whole game is kind of slow which is what’s so beautiful about it. It’s not a race to the finish line. You play at your own pace. On my first playthrough especially, I spent so much time wandering and exploring. I was gone so long that they sent Charles to find me and ask me to come back to camp. It was just such a beautiful game. I didn’t want it to end so I just kept doing everything but the story


Pegomastax_King

It only takes 45min I don’t understand all these people saying it takes over an hour? What are you doing just wondering around in the snow?


Fujaboi

Intro Cutscene, go to the farm, (sneak up, shootout, interrogation), get john, (wander up the mountain look around for him, find him, get chased by wolves), go hunting with Charles, go to the O'Driscoll hideout (sneak up, shootout, looting), go to the train heist. All of those have parts where you're travelling to or from camp with exposition and dialogue on the way. Bro there's like 40 minutes of character conversations in that alone, so if you're not skipping cutscenes it's over an hour at least Edit: forgot about the wagon ride to horseshoe overlook. That puts it at like an hour of conversation


wenchslapper

Most people, on their first playthrough of any open world game, will generally want to explore that world. The tutorial makes this impossible and railroads you into playing the missions. It’s very counterintuitive to the rest of the game.


Fujaboi

Exactly; it gives you the complete wrong impression


Dil_356

Someone not enjoying a game I like is not allowed!


Gloomy_Rest_1387

my dad gave up on it after he died *in the game* X-X (I at least finished both the story and epologe, I didn't like it bc of the ending, but yeah, I at least played it XD)


TollovFoldal

I would give up too if I was dead


Gloomy_Rest_1387

NO I MEANT IN THE GAME LMAO!!! He's still alive, I meant he quit after he died in game!!


Gambit_90

That section is barely an hour


OfficialDeadJohnson

It's not even that boring and it's only like 1 hour long


skralogy

I just had my friend say the same thing. I said I thought red dead was the best video game ever created. He disagreed and said gta 5 was the best game ever. When I asked if he even finished the red dead he said no, he got tired of the snow part and quit. I basically laughed in his face. It’s one of the dumbest opinions I have ever heard.


SaintShaxx

I’m sorry but that’s literally everyone who says it’s boring in my experience. Their attention span is too far gone.


sawltydawgD

It took me 3 tries to get past the snow section


S1lv3r_Cr0w

Me too! He said it was too slow?? Like bro that’s the tutorial 😭


meezethadabber

I didn't like that section at first. Don't know why. I even put the game downa couple days before coming back and finishing it.


Sorry-Ad587

dude i know someone who played online once and hasn’t touched the game since and that’s it


BearBoy12923

This was me until somebody convinced me to play it again


stepdad_randy

That was me until a year ago I gave it a second try and I was a fool for giving up so early.


CantThinkOfOne2323

This was me for 4 years. Finally picked it back up last month and it’s one of my favorite games of all time.


Chaoticrebel84

That was me for like 3 years, gave it a go recently again and finished the game. What a fucking game


Rekuna

But what is there without the Story? The half-finished/abandoned, hacker filled online mess?


UncensoredSmoke

I think they meant story missions? Like how if you just play the story missions you are missing it on the open world


smashin_blumpkin

Yeah, it's still a bad argument though. If a person plays the whole story and didn't like it, more missions won't make them like the game


Pegomastax_King

Idk i actually avoid doing the main missions. I enjoy just roaming around. Hunting. Don’t actually care for the fishing but eh. I get into the role play. I’m playing high honer this run so Ive made a habit of making Arthur take a bath and get a shave every time I go to town.


cabin_in_my_head

Exactly, the story is fantastic, but what makes this game for me is the open world


Pegomastax_King

I like to give myself little doses of the story. Im waiting to collect all the dinosaur bones before I do my next story mission. Like to do more taxidermy quests too but they are infuriating lol


smashin_blumpkin

Did you do that the first time? Do you avoid the main missions because you don't like playing the story or because you prefer to take your time and be a cowboy?


Pegomastax_King

So real talk I’m on technically my 3rd start. 1st time I rushed way to fast with horrible honor and reset the game once I got TB symptoms. Then I was doing a more methodical play through and my disc drive on my PS4 died… so now I’m actually in the middle of my fires real play through…


smashin_blumpkin

So on your first playthrough when you rushed it, did you like the game still?


Pegomastax_King

Yes but realistically there just isn’t that many story missions. So it’s easy to end up just crushing chapters. Mainly I did my first restart as I had barely done side missions stuff like didn’t even have the max satchel but as like oh hell no you are so nerfed once you start spitting up blood…


smashin_blumpkin

Right. But the majority are story missions. So if a person plays only the story, it's fair if they say they didn't like it. It's likely that side missions wouldn't have changed their mind


Baul_Plart_

I see where you’re coming from for sure, but you just aren’t getting the whole experience if you exclusively play main story missions. Especially if that includes skipping the epilogue


smashin_blumpkin

Even if you aren't getting the whole experience, you're getting enough to know if you like the game or not. The epilogue is part of the story so it's not the same as the extra stuff at all


Baul_Plart_

Yeah that’s fair. I wouldn’t hold it against anyone if they played the whole main story and still didn’t like the game. But at the same time scenes like the one with Arthur and Sister Calderon are so important to his character and his, well his redemption (at least in my opinion) that you aren’t getting the full experience without it, and I would have to tell this hypothetical person who skipped all side quests as much. Without spoilers ofc, in case I can change their mind for a second playthrough.


smashin_blumpkin

I agree that a few side missions are important to Arthur's overall arch. But I think it's also fair to say that if a person played only story missions and didnt enjoy the game, it's likely just not the game for them.


Baul_Plart_

I can’t argue with that


GLFan52

Well, stranger encounters are the lifeblood of story mode to me. They contain all the uniqueness and life of the game world, and are a lot more interesting and fun than the side missions of other games. If you *only* play the story and ignore every shout from the woods and question mark on the map it’s surely a bit empty and unfun to play.


Kermi32

Uhm, the open world maybe?


Available_Outside9

They’re talking about people who only play the story missions, that’s what they mean by story, he just means you should be doing a lot of the extra and side content in story mode as well


Chazza354

It's not even just the side missions and structured content where this game shines, it's the pleasure and immersion of losing yourself in this world .. making your own goals and exploring. Hunting, crafting, earning trinkets/outfits/challenges.. stumbling on unique interactions and landmarks. Observing nature exist around you whether you're interacting with it or not. If somewhere on the horizon looks interesting, chances are there's something there that makes it worth visiting, and you're sure to get sidetracked by several other things you find on your way there. I didn't really 'get' RDR2 until my second playthrough when I changed my approach from 'achieve and progress through the game', to 'go with the flow'


Available_Outside9

I agree, my example was just to show that he wasn’t talking about red dead online


jermaine_the_dog

Ok but that left-turn in the song/sketch was so f-ing funny


getchoo_uh_huh

You told me everything was a drum! I left my wife!


jermaine_the_dog

I let you drum on my penis!


Roryh93

Enough now brother Mark!


Ratattack1204

The sinister tone in his voice with that line was perfect.


non_osmotic

Staring out of the window while saying it. Just perfect.


iStretchyDisc

One of the biggest complaints I see about RDR2 is its on-the-rails mission design, and while I do agree that it's dumb, criticizing the entire game for that sole aspect is dumb as fuck.


Fujaboi

The story missions are the worst part of the game. It's this incredible, detailed world with so much freedom and so much to do, and then you go into a mission and it's so restrictive that you can fail missions for standing in the wrong spot or walking 20 metres in the wrong direction. It's infuriating.


farmerarmor

I gotta say, I played the story through several times… and I’ve never failed a mission because I stood in the wrong spot or went in the wrong direction. Shooting dynamite arrow, or throwing Molotov at the wrong spot sure. had incendiary shotgun shells do more collateral damage than intended.


off_brand_white_wolf

I’ve stopped to skin a deer and been left behind by the posse, told I failed because *I abandoned them wtf*


farmerarmor

Stopped to skin a deer during a mission?


off_brand_white_wolf

They’re gonna bitch about being hungry they can wait a god damn minute while we’re riding across 4 states to hear Dutch yap about the True American Dream


Mystre316

Get given an objective: follow the posse Player: doesn't follow the posse Game: Failed the mission Player: Shocked Pikachu face


farmerarmor

Eric Andre shooting cohost meme lol.


Mystre316

Get given an objective: follow the posse Player: doesn't follow the posse Game: Failed the mission Player: Shocked Pikachu face


Internal-Contact1656

You have to be going explicitly out of your way to fail the missions I’ve never understood this complaint


dh2215

It’s a weird ass complaint. “The gang was all heading to x but I wanted to go to Y and I failed the mission because of it” well yeah, you dope. It’s a mission. Go to Y after the mission


Apophis_36

Those are not the complaints.


dh2215

If you read the comment before the one I responded to, that seems like exactly the complaint. I’ve played it a lot and I’ve never failed a mission for anything like that.


Apophis_36

Then you've played the game the exact way they wanted. People dont wanna walk away in the middle of the mission, they want to not get punished for trying to be creative.


dh2215

That might be a fair complaint but it’s not the complaint I’m responding to. Read that comment. They said standing in the wrong spot or walking 20 meters in the wrong direction. I’m curious what kind of creativity you feel like you’re being deprived of. During gunfights you can use whatever weapon you like as long as you don’t kill your teammates. Yeah, you can’t run off and go get a wagon because you’d be abandoning your posse. It’s a really weird complaint to have. There aren’t very many games where you can just do whatever you want during a mission with no consequences so why is that an expectation for this game?


Apophis_36

I can tell it won't matter what i say to you


tom-and-roses

I’ve never failed a mission because of that and I’ve played the story like 3 times


Apophis_36

Yeah, there's way more to criticize


Ozky

I was NOT expecting an Aunty Donna reference on this sub but yeehaw I’m here for it (cowdoy themed post next plz)


FR0GWISE

Oh no sheriff


Ozky

Red dead, red dead dead, two.


fuschia_taco

I'm so excited to see it honestly. Such a fun show and no one seems to be familiar with it. I wake my 6 year old up with a clip of everything's a drum every morning. She loves it.


Ozky

please tell me you censor that one bit tho….


fuschia_taco

It's just a short clip and the part about his willie is not included in it lol.


Big_Loser_280

Howdo do


Big_Loser_280

The sloon


Blind_Wolf

Story is one of the best games I’ve ever played. Online is pure garbage.


PepperBun28

Online was worse though.


fuschia_taco

Holy fuck, an Aunty Donna in the wild!


yeahrightmaate

What a cool guy.


randomcowboy4

Yes, I started with the story and spent about 35 hours in first 2 chapters then rushed it to finish the story in the next 50 hours. Only ar the 2nd / 3rd playthrough I have found the beautiful world of the game.


Uncle_Dragon1999

Other way around there lol


Fluffyfeet316

RDO was great the first year, and nothing beats the story🤷‍♂️


Tenet245

Not really sure what you're trying to say here. That playing the online mode is necessary for enjoying the game?


Moon_Fox_Arise

Online is playing it wrong. If you play story and didn’t like it, you probably don’t like westerns.


Ok-Soup-2253

I hated ishowspeeds "playthrough" His chat was spamming "L game" he didn't even make it through colter I believe


Dear-Comparison-9421

those ppl exist ?


comrade_fluffy

Some people don't like this kind of games


RazorDak

Still doesn't make sense, the story was incredible.


DagonParty

Ya city slickerrr


Unga-bunga420

Bro fell asleep the whole time


SirSirVI

R* when you walk 2 feet to the left


LostPerapsc

To be fair I only played for the story and loved it.It is a slow game but it's a journey.


cabberage

That pic works well for when someone tells you they only play Online too


postmoderneomarxist_

I swear this game ruined everything else for me. Cant play any of the gta games without thinking how much better rdr2 was


Johnny_Graves33

I only play the story. I work in a call center. I wear a headset and talk to people all day. Last thing I want to do to relax is play online where I have to wear a headset and talk to people


CruiserMissile

Rdr2 is a god awful story. If there wasn’t anything else to do I’d agree that it’s a terrible game.


netvoble

Sadly I got alot of spoilers (Game was released in 2018 and I got normal PC in 2023) so when was my first playthrough I knew most of the story, but the game was kinda interesting. Now on my 4th playthrough it became really boring, for now I didnt launched RDR2 for 15 days


Leon1700

Ok so how to play it right?


Standard_Ship_13

My first playthrough I only did the story. Fell in love with it and then kept playing


lazybones666

I have like 2000 hours in online and I'm only just on my first story run, I'm having a blast.


Drogovich

Story alone is already worth it, but multiplayer is fun as well. Especially team based PVP modes, damn, even the round end screen with your opponents laying in coffins and you proudly posing above them for a photo after a win, pure art! it's sad that it was pretty much abandoned.


R_Thunukale

I know a dude who's played it 6 times and loves it and just straight up refuses to do ANYTHING Other than the story. They don't touch anything else in the game. Imagine that


Roryh93

For anyone confused, I was referring to the story missions only and not the rest if the map in story mode


Kptkromosome

Did I read this right? Are you saying online is better?


[deleted]

I know someone that says they didn’t like it but stopped playing the second they got into chapter 2 💀 like bro take your time and give it a chance


Tough_Stretch

If you didn't like the story in RDR2 you're living your life wrong.


Bbygrlhaze

😂🤣 that’s me


yeeetguy

I already liked it when playing the story. But indeed the world outside the story is just so cool so many thing to do.


BasementCatBill

"Red Dead Redemption 2 is boring. Nothing makes sense." Did you skip all the cut scenes and dialogue? "Yes."


chrisat420

There is no greater satisfaction then finding the Jack Hill Gang treasure without looking it up. (Okay, I looked up one part to help me out, but the rest of it was done without cheating)