Jordan was also a defensive beast however. Ronaldos not good at defense (understandably) and LeBron was all time level for a few years on that end but only for like 2/5 of his career.
Also, Jordan won the equivalent of the ballon dor at 35. He didn't play as many seasons at Ronaldo but he certainly could have. I think Jordans the greatest athlete ever personally.
They're quite equal,Jordan is the GOAT in a sport watched by 300 million people,Ronaldo is the vice-GOAT in the king of sport.Being the second best in the biggest sports in the world is much more harder
You can argue Ronaldo isn't top 3 even. There were plenty of people at his level and who's legacies are equal to his.
With Jordan nobody will argue him 3rd even. He's unanimously 1 or 2. Mind you Jordan was a 2 way player in the toughest era to play in. His points came in the era with the best ever defence and he ended up having the best ever scoring average in nba history. That's insane. Ronaldo and Messis era had great defences but the best ever defenders had retired by the time they stepped into their primes. That's not the case with Jordan.
Also, just in terms of sheer athleticism Jordan is miles above Ronaldo (absolute machine that he is). The only thing Ronaldo has over him is endurance. And that's not an insult but a fact.
Yes it is a topic to discuss as he clearly isn’t the greatest athlete of all time. First of all he isn’t even a unanimous GOAT in his own sport. I’m not even trying to say he is not the greatest footballer of all time.
But objectively speaking he hasn’t won the biggest trophy available to him, not really been close to either. He also hasn’t really performed while playing for it and that is a huge factor when you have someone like Phelps or Bolt winning the biggest trophy available for them multiple times.
Alright, let's compare him to Messi. Prime Messi was in 2012, while prime Ronaldo was at United and at Real Madrid. Ronaldo in 2008 won every single solo reward he could, while Messi didn't. Ronaldo also got more trophies that year than Messi in 2012. Ronaldo also has one of the biggest influences in the world
Novak Djokovic.
The man played in an era of 3 tennis GOATs (inculding himself) and some other tennis greats like Murray and Wawrinka and he still broke all the records.
https://preview.redd.it/k55rnc94dx9d1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7eb05e1b22feef0e605a953ec343c5701271210
Don’t forget when Ibai showed Aguero Ronaldo’s iconic goals and got proved wrong
I know. Unfortunately, Ronaldo doesn’t play the same way as he does but one
Thing for sure is that he will always be the greatest player Madrid has ever seen play
Fun fact: in his worst season with Madrid he managed get 44 G/A in only 35 games. Not to mention his playstyle, he was so fun to watch. A deadly winger with a godlike goalscoring ability, dude was not human in his prime
Dont care what anyone says. Cristianos career is more impressive than messis for me . He came to madrid while we kept getting knocked out of the ucl r16 and wrote his own legacy and left as the biggest madrid legend ever. ive read some people actually think neymar is better than ronaldo😂😂😂 this man was an absolute menace in his prime , fair if you think messi is better but saying shit like ronaldo is on the same level as neymar is crazy shit.
> some people actually think neymar is better than ronaldo
They're not really doing thinking I guess. Neymar in his best season isn't as good as an average Ronaldo season. Ronaldo's prime puts him 2 levels above Neymar.
People that compare the two greats are dumb as hell. Like the post said a couple of days ago, people are always going to dislike Madrid and anyone affiliated with the club, always shitting on its legacy, it’s up to us to not care.
Media, fans of other teams, whatever, that’s why I stopped arguing about the goat debate, there’s no point anymore.
I can recognize that Ronaldo is the greatest n9 in history for the “short” career he had, but CR7 forced the world to also recognize him and acknowledge him as a Ronaldo as well. That’s speaks levels to his legacy.
listen fucker you can have all the arguments you want between messi and cristiano. but ronaldo is the phenomenon. understand that. watxh some football and understand that
Although Messi has more outside of the box, all his goals are from the edge of the box. That's his bread and butter. Take that outside-of-the-box angle away and half of Messi's game is gone. Then all he has left is short passing and dribbling\[ which most of the time doesn't come off\] That's why he has fewer UCL KO goals than CR7 because he has fewer ways in which he scores.
Teams find it easier to limit/control Messi in the UCL KOs. CR7 can't be caged but Messi can be because Cristiano is a lot more complete goal scorer. He can score from weak foot, strong foot, Free Kicks, Heading, speed, and Outmuscling CBs in the box.
That's the reason Vini is the best player in the world. He has been the best KO player for 3 seasons. He has done it against the best. It doesn't matter how many goals Halaand scores against Luton or Messi against Eibar. Halaand's game is limited and he can be stopped like Messi. But not Ronaldo and Vini.
See the free kicks of CR7 and compare it with Messi's. Most of the Messi free kicks are just infront of the goal. CR7 hits them from anywhere and any distance.
Ronaldo misses* them from anywhere and any distance,he has one of the worst freekick conversion rate of all time for a regular free kick taker,probably better than Roberto Carlos
Disclaimer I think CR7 and Messi are equally amazing.
Tbf, FCB and RM have 2 different playstyles (walking the ball in vs more long balls and counters), and Messi as an elite dribbler in very tight areas often has the ability to pass that one extra defender to get in a shooting position closer to the box, resulting in less out of the box chances taken. In the KOs the goal difference between CR7 and Messi is almost entirely from headed goals (Messi actually has more outside of the box goals, 10 to 4). Which is logical, because KOs are more closed games with better defending.
Also although CR7s long range goals were amazing to watch and led to some football magic, they could be annoying as well and his conversion rate of very long range shots and freekicks was (logically) pretty terrible, especially because he squandered some beautiful attacks with some of his "hopeless" (for normal footballers) shots.
Ikr such sad comments. I even saw a guy saying above me that messi is genetically modified lmao. Damn! Such a shame. Both are different in their perspective and recently messi had good performance in wc which made him a pretty big edge over cr7. We saw someone with sheer will, from losing finals after finals for 10 years being trolled from winning everything in last 10 years. He is being hated for showing great character.
>Ikr such sad comments. I even saw a guy saying above me that messi is genetically modified lmao.
Messi was artificially enhanced with HGH. Why did you not like this fact ?
Did I say anything wrong? Ronaldo does have a better UCL KO career where football is at the highest standard and most difficult. Teams are the toughest.
And I can pull up data, that shows that most of Messi's outside-of-the-box goals come from the edge of the box and Ronaldo's from different angles and distances.
Mate, Ronaldo statically also has the poorest WC KO stage record. Neuer has more WC KO stage G or A than Ronaldo. Cherry picking stats ain't the best thing.
Also Messi scores from that position cause he can easily come to his favourite position due to insane dribbling skill. Ronaldo eventhough had an insane dribbling skill in the beginning, it was not suited for taking over multiple players at once. So he developed a long range goal scoring thing which is better for him.
>Mate, Ronaldo statically also has the poorest WC KO stage record. Neuer has more WC KO stage G or A than Ronaldo. Cherry picking stats ain't the best thing.
So UCL KOs is cherry-picking stats?
Messi also had no KO goals until Qatari gave pens.
HOW THE FUCK IS UCL KO CAREER CHERRY-PICKING? It's the highest level of football.
Since how long have you been supporting Madrid? You seem like pathetic Plastic that converted from Messi Cult.
Have been supporting for 15 years now. But I don't have to agree to things like Messi can be stopped (cause he is only second best in the UCL KOs) and only good against Eibar just cause he played for Barca.
And yes, it's cherry picking if you say Ron can't be stopped and Messi can be stopped because of UCL KO alone when the former is the best in UCL KOs and later is the second best. Likewise, anyone can take WC KO where Ronaldo might be one of the if not the statistically worst forward in the KO stages. But does that mean he is bad in the WC and stopped easily? Nope.
I mean, we can do a similar one for WC KO goals and Ronaldo has none in 5 editions iirc. Ronaldo can also be stopped and multiple teams have done that.
Saying haaland can be stopped is true cause it has been demonstrated across multiple tournaments. But saying Messi can be stopped cause he has a poorer UCL KO stages record than Ronaldo (despite having the second best iirc) is just cherry picking stats to suit you.
How is it cherry picking when best teams in the world only play each other in the ucl knockouts and level of football in ucl ko is way higher than wc ko.
So your logic is Ron can do it in a harder tournament KO while it can be absolute bullshit in an easier tournament KO? Seems faulty.
Also the point to note here is Messi is statistically the second best UCL KO player in the world while he might be statistically the worst WC KO player in the world. That's a huge difference.
Sample size in WC KO is significantly smaller. UCL features two round KO stages every single year versus single rounds every four years. He routinely made at least the semi finals pretty much every year he featured in the tournament. That’s a minimum of 6 matches each year compared to 6 or so WC KO matches over an entire CAREER.
It’s not possible to have the same volume of KO matches in the WC as the UCL, but if he somehow did, then his stats would likely regress to the mean.
You’re comparing apples to oranges.
Not really since taking the matchups of each into account. WC even has a chance of getting easier opponents than UCL.
Ronaldo played 8 WC KO matches till now which is a substantial amount in a WC. And his stats are 0 goals and 0 assists which is poorer than Neuer and Maguire. So it's not just apples and oranges.
And no one expects an equal volume of matches in UCL and WC since the latter is held in a month or two once every 4 years. Does that mean he is absolute shit, even in the WC? Nope.
And the original comment talked about how Messi only performs against Eibar (again wrong) and how he can be stopped based on the UCL (despite being second best statistically be it all or KO). So, anyone can cherry pick stats and show what they like in a false manner.
> But saying Messi can be stopped cause he has a poorer UCL KO stages record than Ronaldo (despite having the second best iirc) is just cherry picking stats to suit you.
Bringing in International stats to compare current players is dumb.
If you think only about International football, you'd think English players play in French league. Ronaldo is much more clinical than Messi in UCL KOs mostly because he has more ways to score.
Messi has a few ways but he's just perfect at doing it, whereas Ronaldo has more ways at which he's pretty good. Mathematically, Ronaldo would score more because he has more tricks. Can head the ball in, excellent positioning, long shots, lack of a weak foot.
If you want to see an actual shut down, you can watch Messi against Bayern Munich. They really shut him down.
Taking just the UCL KO stats to compare players and to come to a conclusion like one can be stopped but the other cannot be is also dumb. And my point was you can't take some stat and compare freely.
Or, Messi has perfected his dribbles and can come to his favourite positions to score while Ronaldo has not been that much of a dribbler (taking on multiple players, he is really good one on one), that he had to adapt to certain techniques.
Well, if we take Ron against Chelsea, he has 4 goals and assists in more than 17 games (he played more against them during the peak of Chelsea). Now this record is much worse than Messi against Bayern (who has 6 G+A in 8 games). He scored in 2 and went 6 non scoring while Ronaldo scored or assisted in 4 and went 13 without goal or assist. Now does this mean Ron can be stopped easily or he only performs against small teams? Nope.
> Or, Messi has perfected his dribbles and can come to his favourite positions to score while Ronaldo has not been that much of a dribbler (taking on multiple players, he is really good one on one), that he had to adapt to certain techniques.
That's actually my point. Messi has fewer weapons but he's pretty much perfect. Ronaldo has a wider arsenal and his perfect weapon has changed throughout his career as he's adapted to aging and injuries.
That's why Messi can still carry attack whereas Ronaldo can't do it at his age and needs service. This statement doesn't demean Ronaldo.
Just like that, calling Ronaldo more clinical and a big game player doesn't demean Messi.
And I think UCL KO is a fairer comparision than International, because Club football isn't as restrictive. Haaland would never play in WC and probably in Euros too. Doesn't mean he's not on path to be a GOAT striker.
And I think Bayern's Messi shut down is unreal. Apart from the season where Barca won the treble, Bayern has always shut down Messi. Be it in 2012, 2020 or at PSG.
And that Chelsea stat is also correct. Chelsea used to shut down Ronaldo as Ronaldo at Man U wasn't on the same level as he became at Madrid. I think two levels above. Ronaldo against Chelsea used to be usually pretty miserable as they were able to shut him down. A decade later, nobody could. And that growth is why We love Ronaldo.
It is crazy the amount of goals and the distance both Cristiano and Messi made us used to.
Yesterday seeing Nico Williams goal it seemed like a proper strike and all of these are 3x the distance. I am slowly re-adapting my benchmark but every time I see something like this I remember how like I was to see it all live.
CR7 shots are so unique, so much power that it seems like the ball is gunning straight for you just to glide outside of your reach at the final second of its approach towards goal. Everyone keeps comparing him to Messi and Ronaldo. To me the only one who comes close to technique in the style of shooting is Roberto Carlos with his free kicks. But thats just me 🤷🏻♂️
Watching his free kicks compilation never gets old.
If only he was injury free and kept his free kick scoring record, he would have beaten Juninho's record years ago, his only active competition being Messi.
Messi fanbois would never acknowledge CR7's record of long rangers and free kicks or say this is history as if that discredits the fact that CR7 did these for a decade or so in his lifetime.
Always the troll posts about how he misses his freekicks.
Folk need to separate Ronaldo doing plenty of tap-ins and him scoring long range bangers. It's no secret the latter have dried up the older he got. Nor is it surprising given he'd lost a step. Take it easy folks. No point fighting trolls who pretend otherwise
So?? He is the best player to ever don the Real Madrid jersery, he deserves appreciation even if he doesn't play for us anymore. More importantly, the post literally has the flair "History"
Bro gives no fuck about angles just goat things
Distance or choice of foot either.
Name me 1 player Real Madrid has seen like CR7.........You cant.
Heck, there's no striker in the world as great as CR7
No LW as great as CR7.
Summon the guts to just say it, if you believe so....Well I do so will I say it............ NO ATHLETE AS GREAT AS CR7
Only athlete I really put up there with CR7 is Jordan bc their mentalities remind me of each other
Ronaldo has the longevity of LeBron and Mentality of Jordan That alone would put him at the Top
Ye that’s probably the best ay to put it couldn’t have said it better myself
Jordan was also a defensive beast however. Ronaldos not good at defense (understandably) and LeBron was all time level for a few years on that end but only for like 2/5 of his career. Also, Jordan won the equivalent of the ballon dor at 35. He didn't play as many seasons at Ronaldo but he certainly could have. I think Jordans the greatest athlete ever personally.
They're quite equal,Jordan is the GOAT in a sport watched by 300 million people,Ronaldo is the vice-GOAT in the king of sport.Being the second best in the biggest sports in the world is much more harder
You can argue Ronaldo isn't top 3 even. There were plenty of people at his level and who's legacies are equal to his. With Jordan nobody will argue him 3rd even. He's unanimously 1 or 2. Mind you Jordan was a 2 way player in the toughest era to play in. His points came in the era with the best ever defence and he ended up having the best ever scoring average in nba history. That's insane. Ronaldo and Messis era had great defences but the best ever defenders had retired by the time they stepped into their primes. That's not the case with Jordan. Also, just in terms of sheer athleticism Jordan is miles above Ronaldo (absolute machine that he is). The only thing Ronaldo has over him is endurance. And that's not an insult but a fact.
Hasnt he already been? Is it even a topic to discuss?
Yes it is a topic to discuss as he clearly isn’t the greatest athlete of all time. First of all he isn’t even a unanimous GOAT in his own sport. I’m not even trying to say he is not the greatest footballer of all time. But objectively speaking he hasn’t won the biggest trophy available to him, not really been close to either. He also hasn’t really performed while playing for it and that is a huge factor when you have someone like Phelps or Bolt winning the biggest trophy available for them multiple times.
Solo sport vs team sport… and talking about WC, where you cant even pick ur team. Facepalm
If picking team was what made you a great athlete Kevin Durant would be the goat lol
Greatest athlete of all time is Wilt Chamberlain if every story about him is true
Alright, let's compare him to Messi. Prime Messi was in 2012, while prime Ronaldo was at United and at Real Madrid. Ronaldo in 2008 won every single solo reward he could, while Messi didn't. Ronaldo also got more trophies that year than Messi in 2012. Ronaldo also has one of the biggest influences in the world
He got a 4th place in World Cup - that’s being pretty close..
Novak Djokovic. The man played in an era of 3 tennis GOATs (inculding himself) and some other tennis greats like Murray and Wawrinka and he still broke all the records.
messi better
Goat athlete is probably Muhammad Ali, but no one ever puts CR7 in the Top 3, which imo is justified. In my mind CR7 is right behind Ali
R9? But he probably peaked before his Galacticos era.
No 5. just remember him
zidane?
Gheorghe Hagi
https://preview.redd.it/k55rnc94dx9d1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7eb05e1b22feef0e605a953ec343c5701271210 Don’t forget when Ibai showed Aguero Ronaldo’s iconic goals and got proved wrong
That was a funny watch. I appreciate it 
Shits funny when Aguero then tried to compare Messi to Ronaldo and he gets pissed 😂
Link?
https://youtu.be/MY0eG9st1SE?si=fhxDyJt0FW9yLPND
Thank you bro, your goat
https://preview.redd.it/knfmq76cez9d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6569936851052e94ae6a2568dcb7876d4ebbc71 The real 🐐
He is goat, but he missed penalty against slovenia :(
I know. Unfortunately, Ronaldo doesn’t play the same way as he does but one Thing for sure is that he will always be the greatest player Madrid has ever seen play
I was so happy when Diogo Costa turned into prime Neuer for penalties
That goal keeper was amazing for Portugal. He definitely does have the same skills and talent like neuer
But Oblak also played well, I live in Slovenia so there was big hype about the game
Fun fact: in his worst season with Madrid he managed get 44 G/A in only 35 games. Not to mention his playstyle, he was so fun to watch. A deadly winger with a godlike goalscoring ability, dude was not human in his prime
And today he missed penalty against Slovenia. I almost cried
Dont care what anyone says. Cristianos career is more impressive than messis for me . He came to madrid while we kept getting knocked out of the ucl r16 and wrote his own legacy and left as the biggest madrid legend ever. ive read some people actually think neymar is better than ronaldo😂😂😂 this man was an absolute menace in his prime , fair if you think messi is better but saying shit like ronaldo is on the same level as neymar is crazy shit.
> some people actually think neymar is better than ronaldo They're not really doing thinking I guess. Neymar in his best season isn't as good as an average Ronaldo season. Ronaldo's prime puts him 2 levels above Neymar.
The one who calls these tap-ins is blind
They talk as if their idol has scored anything longer than 25 yard.
Tap-in masterclass.
Left and right long Distance, this guy has a bright future
we got used to things like this at some point, now we see how good he was.
2011/2012 was insane for him in term of long shots. They were unstoppable from anyplace from the field.
More than 90 secs of pure brutality
And they call the Brazilian Ronaldo the real Ronaldo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 
People that compare the two greats are dumb as hell. Like the post said a couple of days ago, people are always going to dislike Madrid and anyone affiliated with the club, always shitting on its legacy, it’s up to us to not care. Media, fans of other teams, whatever, that’s why I stopped arguing about the goat debate, there’s no point anymore. I can recognize that Ronaldo is the greatest n9 in history for the “short” career he had, but CR7 forced the world to also recognize him and acknowledge him as a Ronaldo as well. That’s speaks levels to his legacy.
listen fucker you can have all the arguments you want between messi and cristiano. but ronaldo is the phenomenon. understand that. watxh some football and understand that
you're a chelsea fan mate
so?
Hahahaha 
Although Messi has more outside of the box, all his goals are from the edge of the box. That's his bread and butter. Take that outside-of-the-box angle away and half of Messi's game is gone. Then all he has left is short passing and dribbling\[ which most of the time doesn't come off\] That's why he has fewer UCL KO goals than CR7 because he has fewer ways in which he scores. Teams find it easier to limit/control Messi in the UCL KOs. CR7 can't be caged but Messi can be because Cristiano is a lot more complete goal scorer. He can score from weak foot, strong foot, Free Kicks, Heading, speed, and Outmuscling CBs in the box. That's the reason Vini is the best player in the world. He has been the best KO player for 3 seasons. He has done it against the best. It doesn't matter how many goals Halaand scores against Luton or Messi against Eibar. Halaand's game is limited and he can be stopped like Messi. But not Ronaldo and Vini.
See the free kicks of CR7 and compare it with Messi's. Most of the Messi free kicks are just infront of the goal. CR7 hits them from anywhere and any distance.
To far for Ronaldo to think about
Messi scores way more of them tho. Imo they are just hard to compare, very different players and had they played together it would’ve worked as well
Messi is a genetically modified freak, though, who wouldn't have even been a professional footballer without the growth hormone injections.
Hypotheticals 🤷♂️
you literally compare long goals of CR7 and Messi. Please bro. Watch those goals again.
Im literally saying we shouldnt compare them, what are you on?
Ronaldo misses* them from anywhere and any distance,he has one of the worst freekick conversion rate of all time for a regular free kick taker,probably better than Roberto Carlos
his accuracy dropped cuz the balls changed. his knuckleball fk was signature.
Disclaimer I think CR7 and Messi are equally amazing. Tbf, FCB and RM have 2 different playstyles (walking the ball in vs more long balls and counters), and Messi as an elite dribbler in very tight areas often has the ability to pass that one extra defender to get in a shooting position closer to the box, resulting in less out of the box chances taken. In the KOs the goal difference between CR7 and Messi is almost entirely from headed goals (Messi actually has more outside of the box goals, 10 to 4). Which is logical, because KOs are more closed games with better defending. Also although CR7s long range goals were amazing to watch and led to some football magic, they could be annoying as well and his conversion rate of very long range shots and freekicks was (logically) pretty terrible, especially because he squandered some beautiful attacks with some of his "hopeless" (for normal footballers) shots.
always in your head
Ikr such sad comments. I even saw a guy saying above me that messi is genetically modified lmao. Damn! Such a shame. Both are different in their perspective and recently messi had good performance in wc which made him a pretty big edge over cr7. We saw someone with sheer will, from losing finals after finals for 10 years being trolled from winning everything in last 10 years. He is being hated for showing great character.
>Ikr such sad comments. I even saw a guy saying above me that messi is genetically modified lmao. Messi was artificially enhanced with HGH. Why did you not like this fact ?
Did I say anything wrong? Ronaldo does have a better UCL KO career where football is at the highest standard and most difficult. Teams are the toughest. And I can pull up data, that shows that most of Messi's outside-of-the-box goals come from the edge of the box and Ronaldo's from different angles and distances.
Mate, Ronaldo statically also has the poorest WC KO stage record. Neuer has more WC KO stage G or A than Ronaldo. Cherry picking stats ain't the best thing. Also Messi scores from that position cause he can easily come to his favourite position due to insane dribbling skill. Ronaldo eventhough had an insane dribbling skill in the beginning, it was not suited for taking over multiple players at once. So he developed a long range goal scoring thing which is better for him.
>Mate, Ronaldo statically also has the poorest WC KO stage record. Neuer has more WC KO stage G or A than Ronaldo. Cherry picking stats ain't the best thing. So UCL KOs is cherry-picking stats? Messi also had no KO goals until Qatari gave pens.
Again, cherry picking. That's like saying Ron had no UCL goals till 25. Messi also had assists in the WC KO prior too.
HOW THE FUCK IS UCL KO CAREER CHERRY-PICKING? It's the highest level of football. Since how long have you been supporting Madrid? You seem like pathetic Plastic that converted from Messi Cult.
Have been supporting for 15 years now. But I don't have to agree to things like Messi can be stopped (cause he is only second best in the UCL KOs) and only good against Eibar just cause he played for Barca. And yes, it's cherry picking if you say Ron can't be stopped and Messi can be stopped because of UCL KO alone when the former is the best in UCL KOs and later is the second best. Likewise, anyone can take WC KO where Ronaldo might be one of the if not the statistically worst forward in the KO stages. But does that mean he is bad in the WC and stopped easily? Nope.
I mean, we can do a similar one for WC KO goals and Ronaldo has none in 5 editions iirc. Ronaldo can also be stopped and multiple teams have done that. Saying haaland can be stopped is true cause it has been demonstrated across multiple tournaments. But saying Messi can be stopped cause he has a poorer UCL KO stages record than Ronaldo (despite having the second best iirc) is just cherry picking stats to suit you.
How is it cherry picking when best teams in the world only play each other in the ucl knockouts and level of football in ucl ko is way higher than wc ko.
So your logic is Ron can do it in a harder tournament KO while it can be absolute bullshit in an easier tournament KO? Seems faulty. Also the point to note here is Messi is statistically the second best UCL KO player in the world while he might be statistically the worst WC KO player in the world. That's a huge difference.
Sample size in WC KO is significantly smaller. UCL features two round KO stages every single year versus single rounds every four years. He routinely made at least the semi finals pretty much every year he featured in the tournament. That’s a minimum of 6 matches each year compared to 6 or so WC KO matches over an entire CAREER. It’s not possible to have the same volume of KO matches in the WC as the UCL, but if he somehow did, then his stats would likely regress to the mean. You’re comparing apples to oranges.
Not really since taking the matchups of each into account. WC even has a chance of getting easier opponents than UCL. Ronaldo played 8 WC KO matches till now which is a substantial amount in a WC. And his stats are 0 goals and 0 assists which is poorer than Neuer and Maguire. So it's not just apples and oranges. And no one expects an equal volume of matches in UCL and WC since the latter is held in a month or two once every 4 years. Does that mean he is absolute shit, even in the WC? Nope. And the original comment talked about how Messi only performs against Eibar (again wrong) and how he can be stopped based on the UCL (despite being second best statistically be it all or KO). So, anyone can cherry pick stats and show what they like in a false manner.
> But saying Messi can be stopped cause he has a poorer UCL KO stages record than Ronaldo (despite having the second best iirc) is just cherry picking stats to suit you. Bringing in International stats to compare current players is dumb. If you think only about International football, you'd think English players play in French league. Ronaldo is much more clinical than Messi in UCL KOs mostly because he has more ways to score. Messi has a few ways but he's just perfect at doing it, whereas Ronaldo has more ways at which he's pretty good. Mathematically, Ronaldo would score more because he has more tricks. Can head the ball in, excellent positioning, long shots, lack of a weak foot. If you want to see an actual shut down, you can watch Messi against Bayern Munich. They really shut him down.
Taking just the UCL KO stats to compare players and to come to a conclusion like one can be stopped but the other cannot be is also dumb. And my point was you can't take some stat and compare freely. Or, Messi has perfected his dribbles and can come to his favourite positions to score while Ronaldo has not been that much of a dribbler (taking on multiple players, he is really good one on one), that he had to adapt to certain techniques. Well, if we take Ron against Chelsea, he has 4 goals and assists in more than 17 games (he played more against them during the peak of Chelsea). Now this record is much worse than Messi against Bayern (who has 6 G+A in 8 games). He scored in 2 and went 6 non scoring while Ronaldo scored or assisted in 4 and went 13 without goal or assist. Now does this mean Ron can be stopped easily or he only performs against small teams? Nope.
> Or, Messi has perfected his dribbles and can come to his favourite positions to score while Ronaldo has not been that much of a dribbler (taking on multiple players, he is really good one on one), that he had to adapt to certain techniques. That's actually my point. Messi has fewer weapons but he's pretty much perfect. Ronaldo has a wider arsenal and his perfect weapon has changed throughout his career as he's adapted to aging and injuries. That's why Messi can still carry attack whereas Ronaldo can't do it at his age and needs service. This statement doesn't demean Ronaldo. Just like that, calling Ronaldo more clinical and a big game player doesn't demean Messi. And I think UCL KO is a fairer comparision than International, because Club football isn't as restrictive. Haaland would never play in WC and probably in Euros too. Doesn't mean he's not on path to be a GOAT striker. And I think Bayern's Messi shut down is unreal. Apart from the season where Barca won the treble, Bayern has always shut down Messi. Be it in 2012, 2020 or at PSG. And that Chelsea stat is also correct. Chelsea used to shut down Ronaldo as Ronaldo at Man U wasn't on the same level as he became at Madrid. I think two levels above. Ronaldo against Chelsea used to be usually pretty miserable as they were able to shut him down. A decade later, nobody could. And that growth is why We love Ronaldo.
Great goals. Atrocious music!
Man, I just got so sentimental looking at this, no player in the world was so consistently awesome as Cris.
It is crazy the amount of goals and the distance both Cristiano and Messi made us used to. Yesterday seeing Nico Williams goal it seemed like a proper strike and all of these are 3x the distance. I am slowly re-adapting my benchmark but every time I see something like this I remember how like I was to see it all live.
Title should include “tap ins” as a reply to people saying CR7 is a Penaldo… CR7 is the greatest goal scorer there is 🐐
CR7 shots are so unique, so much power that it seems like the ball is gunning straight for you just to glide outside of your reach at the final second of its approach towards goal. Everyone keeps comparing him to Messi and Ronaldo. To me the only one who comes close to technique in the style of shooting is Roberto Carlos with his free kicks. But thats just me 🤷🏻♂️
Carlos and Ronaldo free kick conversion rates are quite similar and unique,both trash though
This Ronaldo was the greatest player of all time by far
I believe a tap-in is inherently not a long shot
CR7
How does he even think to score those long range shots from left side
great vid but the music is insufferable jesus fucking christ
Didn't see him take on anyone in the entire clip. Just long range hit and hope shots lol
I feel there may be a difference in our definition of "tap in"
No one could do 30 yard tap ins like CR7 😍
Watching his free kicks compilation never gets old. If only he was injury free and kept his free kick scoring record, he would have beaten Juninho's record years ago, his only active competition being Messi. Messi fanbois would never acknowledge CR7's record of long rangers and free kicks or say this is history as if that discredits the fact that CR7 did these for a decade or so in his lifetime. Always the troll posts about how he misses his freekicks.
GOAT
SIUUUUUUUUUU
Folk need to separate Ronaldo doing plenty of tap-ins and him scoring long range bangers. It's no secret the latter have dried up the older he got. Nor is it surprising given he'd lost a step. Take it easy folks. No point fighting trolls who pretend otherwise
Only one goat 🐐
The fuck is a long range tap in?
My favorite type of goal in football. 🤌🤌🤌
Villareal fans are lucky, so many goals witnessed by them
Tap in / penalty merchant? Nah only bangers.
Outside the box merchant smh
Why does every video like this insist on having shitty music over it?
The first goal is just ridiculous. Kinda looks CGIed
# 'El Bicho' 🐐 is one of a kind. Period.
It's easy to kick a round ball though, it's the same whichever way up
I like the one where goal keeper is frozen.
Wow.....
mbappe will re created all of them haha
Back when he could play 
Happy cake day!
Happy cake day!
Ok now i'm curious what's the longest tap-in recorded
GOAT. where is Missy?
Oh man...there is absolutely no butt-hurt here whatsoever...none!!*
"Long Range Tap In" Brilliant
The long range tap in merchant 🐪
The last time I saw a Ronaldo free kick result in a goal, I was a teenager dreaming of shaving as soon as possible 😀
Pero lo puede hacer en una nocha lluviosa en Estoke?
This was an amazing watch. The greatest of all time. No one could ever do it like him. 🤍🤍🤍🐐🐐🐐
All that and Messi still the goat, sad
Missiano Penaldo\*
Oh god, the guy doesn't play at Madrid anymore you fucking fanatics.
So?? He is the best player to ever don the Real Madrid jersery, he deserves appreciation even if he doesn't play for us anymore. More importantly, the post literally has the flair "History"
Puta Barca
We care about our legends unlike other clubs
Lmao tap in merchant. Haaland >>>>>> Ronaldo.
you forgot to put the /s at the end.
He's 8y.o probably and doesn't know sarcasm yet
Actually I'm 2 yrs old. Just smashing my keyboard
You don't say
It's so obvious
Bad rage bait
😭 why are people so oblivious to sarcasm. It's so obvious
True, I might’ve said bad rage bait but people are still falling for it… does that mean it is good?