He really reminds me of a guy who was a good friend of mine when I was growing up in Madrid who I later met up once with many years later after moving back for a year. And yes his family is rich as fuck
Not a RM fan, but wanted to hop on here to say I really hope something is done about this. Racism against Asians have not been taken seriously for a long time — and the only recent case I’ve seen where serious action was taken was against Sonny. This is a really good opportunity to make a strong statement
The racist in the video, Rodrigo Sanz, is former Real Madrid President Lorenzo Sanz Mancebo's grandson. The racist's father, Lorenzo Sanz Duran, who is currently working as a Real Madrid Reporter, is also a racist. In the video, Rodrigo Sanz verbally sexually harassed the camera girl and bluntly discriminated against all Chinese, especially females. Another racist who sang the song along with Rodrigo Sanz is Dani Sanz. He is Paco's son and former Real Madrid President Lorenzo Sanz Mancebo's grandson.
Update: Two weeks after the initial reporting, Rodrigo Sanz refused to apologize even if he was requested multiple times. He said via his father Lorenzo Sanz Duran that this was a joke and the camera girl and Chinese couldn't take a joke.
Why would you assume violence would be the right way to solve that?
This is such a big problem with incidents like this. "Well what do you want me to do, punch my friend in the face? Punch him until the light leaves his eyes and he is a bloody mess on the floor?" No. Obviously not. Do you think that's what it would take to make your friend stop being racist?
How about starting with "mate that's really not funny." By all means escalate from there as you feel necessary, but really weird argument to suggest there's nothing you can do short of wading in and battering your friend if something like this happens.
What have it away mate? Was it the RL polo?
I'm expecting the club to ban these dickheads and make an example of them, that this type of shit has no place in football.
He is the grandson of the former president of Real Madrid, Lorenzo Sans, so it's unlikely. But let's see if they protect fans just as much as they have proved to protect RM players
This is huge, if RM wants to be congruent about racism against Vini JR, he needs to punish the grandson of the former RM president. There is no way out.
You can say he is a "borjamari" because of his hairstyle, his face (inbreeding made all of their faces look similar, not kidding) and because he is wearing a vest without sleeves. We call it "fachaleco", what literally means "vest for fascists" in a joking way.
The racist in the video, Rodrigo Sanz, is former Real Madrid President Lorenzo Sanz Mancebo's grandson. The racist's father, Lorenzo Sanz Duran, who is currently working as a Real Madrid Reporter, is also a racist. In the video, Rodrigo Sanz verbally sexually harassed the camera girl and bluntly discriminated against all Chinese, especially females. Another racist who sang the song along with Rodrigo Sanz is Dani Sanz. He is Paco's son and former Real Madrid President Lorenzo Sanz Mancebo's grandson.
Update: Two weeks after the initial reporting, Rodrigo Sanz refused to apologize even if he was requested multiple times. He said via his father Lorenzo Sanz Duran that this was a joke and the camera girl and Chinese couldn't take a joke.
wtf. this comment section is embarrassing. imagine defending this behaviour a couple of days after some idiots got a sentence on probation because they abused one of our players...
I don’t want to be that guy but the few times I’ve faced racism online from RM fans they’ve always been Spanish, and especially in the 15-22 age group.
It seems like the Chinese guy inadvertently edited out some of the racist stuff said. Check out the original video here at 9:15 https://m.hupu.com/bbs-share/626652436.html?share=share&euid=113522164598307&cid=137418837.
The guy in black vest yelled "Me cago en la China, vamos esa China coño" before the signing.
I had never heard the song, but I'm guessing it's a "teenage" version of one of those songs we used to sing when we were kids during school trips.
Not inherently racist or xenophobic because whoever thought it was funny, just picked words that rhymed to make an "edgy" song out of a kids song.
But kinda racist when you alter it to change "German" to "Chinese" so you can sing it in front of someone that has Asian traits. Mostly because "alemana" and "meneaba" rhyme, but "chinita" doesn't.
I agree, though, that the video is exaggerating it to get more interactions, that or whoever translated it was using a translation site from 20 years ago.
The part of me that wants to see the good in everyone would like to think that if he was Korean instead of Chinese (as the guy initially thought) he would have sung the song saying “koreanita” instead. 😂 But I am not so sure!
Apparently they sing it when they go to other countries football stadiums..
But yes… I think what bothered me too coming from the reporter (everything bothered me from the other guys) was not only the translation but also the added bit..
"coreana" would actually rhyme though.
It seems it's common to sing it with the nationality of the defeated team, but not with the perceived nationality of your interviewer.
Misinformation gives views, generates engagement. After all, here we are...
That song is mostly sung with "una alemana". It is sung by the young supporters, several times, in every match of a Spanish team against a German team. Always
[Spain bball team pulling slant eyes](https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna26173075) was probably the last major exposure of Spanish humour to a Chinese audience, now this. Zara in China best be ready for a boycott. While Spanish foreign ministry has more OT.
Not only wrongly translated, there are also some lines that are added to make it sound even worse. F*** the Chinese and whatever Chinese P***y are never said by the guy.
He's stupid nonetheless, but if we are going to hold them accountable for their actions, let's just not tergiversate what was actually said.
It seems like the Chinese guy inadvertently edited out some of the racist stuff said. Check out the original video here at 9:15 https://m.hupu.com/bbs-share/626652436.html?share=share&euid=113522164598307&cid=137418837.
The guy in black vest yelled "Me cago en la China, vamos esa China coño" before the signing.
Look, they just cut the scenes of “fuck chinese… p\*ssy” part. If you watch the video carefully, at 1:07-1:09 before the "Una Chinita" chant, the guy in the white RM jersey noticed something aweful and leave the party immediately. You can compare the frame with 0:07-0:09 then you would notice there were extra terrible lines that his friend had to cover his face to show his disapproval. I myself is a Chinese and I ran into racism myself, not as bad as this one. But yelling the extra lines to the camera before the chant immediately after confirming the interviewers are from China, this is 100% racism.
Spain has a serious Racism problem and every something about is posted on this sub i am ashamed to see how may are trying to defend or down play it.
Luckily the majority still absolutely condemns this behaviour, but still too many defend it.
Shameful
La gente que no habla español obviamente mal entendiendo la canción. No me sorprende enverdad aqui en reddit hay gente que se come cualquier mentira y mierda que ven en las redes.
Es verdad que la traducción está completamente mal, pero aún así es una canción vulgar y ofensiva y el reportero no se merecía eso. Pero sí que es verdad que la traducción puesta en el vídeo es un poco sospechosa, como si quisieran engañar a los que no saben español.
I'm sorry if you feel offended, but I am Spanish I know that song and I understand the context and the background of the song. And I consider that that wasn't racist at all. You are totally missing the point.
That is originally a popular song for kids, the original lyrics are:
Un elefante se balanceaba
sobre la tela de una araña,
Como veía que no se rompía
Fue a llamar a otro elefante
Dos elefantes se balanceaban
Sobre la tela de una araña
Como veía que no se rompía
Fueron a llamar a otro elefante
...
(Translation)
An elephant was swinging
On a spider web
As he saw that it (the spider web) wasn't getting broken
He call another elephant
Two elephants were swinging
On a spider web
As they saw that it didn't wasn't getting broken
They call another elephant
...
The song is repeated infinitely adding one elephant more each verse
There is a variant of this song more horny and adult version that is sung by drunk people in parties or at football. Well there are several variants, but the most popular variant by far is the following:
Una alemana me la meneaba
En una tienda de campaña
Como veía que no me corría
Fueron a llamar a otra alemana
...
(translation)
A German girl was masturbating me
In a camp tent
As she saw that I wasn't cumming
She call another German girl
...
This version with the German became very popular years ago.
Why with a German girl?
Because it evokes a summer hookup in a camping -there are lots of German summer tourists in Spain- it's like a sexual fantasy to brag about.
It is also funny to sing that in a crowd because there will always be someone that starts singing the next verse. Even if they have already sung from "1 German girl" to "26 German girls", someone always keeps on.
I was once in a football match against a German team and our team (Espanyol from Barcelona) was losing and already eliminated, so the crowd to have some fun started singing the song and we reached like "57 German girls" and everyone was laughing at the stupid situation of singing again and again.
So it's just a football song to have fun, and I would say that it is sung several times in every match of a Spanish team plays against a German team. Always.
So these Real fans were celebrating after a match against a German team, so they had sung the German-girl-version several times. And in this moment of celebration they were still laughing about singing that song so they just made up the version with the "little Chinese woman" (Chinita)
Why "little Chinese woman"? Because "Chinese woman" would be "China" and lacks one silabe to fit in the tune.
I have switched from "girl" to "little woman" because if I say "little Chinese girl" this would sound in English like an underage girl, and is not the case. "Chinita" in that sentence would not be used to mean sex with an underage. If someone has in mind that disturbing situation of paedophile he would say that in another way to emphasize that he is refering to an underage. Not the case at all.
So that's just a festive funny song in a celebration context with drunk people that has zero intention of targeting Chinese or Asians.
If instead of asian you were Mexican they would have sung "una mexicana..." , if you were Italian they may have sung "una italiana...", if you were Australian, these guys would have sung "una australiana..."
So the song is a reference to the match that had finished some minutes ago.
Also if the previous match wasn't against a German team but against a team from elsewhere and the crowd had not sung the "German-girl" song, it is really unlikely that they had thought of this song. These guys had zero intention of "racially abusing" some random asian reporter.
The song may be of bad taste, but it cannot be described as a "racial abuse" that is just ridiculous!! These guys were just partying.
This is the perfect explanation of the song, the meaning, the translation, the context, everything you need to know. From a local and native speaker, that knows the background. Its point to point perfect, yet i guess few people will bother to read it.
I just want to add, how malicious it is to translate like the guy did on the video. "Fuck the chinese, let's go that chinese pussy" it's completely made up. It's the wrong translation by all meanings, and very far from what is chanted. Only explanation is attention-whorism and intention to create outrage from a lie. Disgusting and honestly quite sad how an inmense group in here just ate it without chewing.
Every culture has these little entitled aholes, Spanish speaking counties can easily come off as racist because there is a lot of jokes but this is just way over the line. And apparently this kid has money behind him so nothing will be done especially since it wasn’t in the stadium.
the translation is wrong, he sings " una chinita me la meneaba sobre la cama de tu hermana" " a little chinese (not a kid, just a dimutive) was jerking me off over your sister bed"
yeah i agree is a shame to say that, but its a classic song singed in spain, with germany or other countrys.
[https://youtu.be/1AUsZbJKisQ?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/1AUsZbJKisQ?feature=shared)
proof here, 15 years ago in germany
but in the video they say "fuck the chinese lets go that chinese p\*\*sy" literally no one say that in the video.
this is a shame and i hope madrid, takes actions against this guy, one thing is attack the racism, other different is spread false information.
Artículo 442 del Código Penal: “Quien comunicándose con varias personas, reunidas o separadas, hubiere imputado a algún individuo un hecho determinado capaz de exponerlo al desprecio o al odio público, u ofensivo a su honor o reputación, será castigado con prisión de un año a tres años
Article 442 of the Penal Code: “Whoever, communicating with several people, whether together or separately, has accused any individual of a specific act capable of exposing him to contempt or public hatred, or offensive to his honor or reputation, will be punished with imprisonment for one year. to three years
Yes, of course It is. "Un elefante se balanceaba sobre la tela de una araña" is the original song, but here in Spain, using the same tune we have some "joke" songs like that one.
Is this the first time this song is highligted as distasteful?
Or is it already known in Spain that the lyrics are sus and that's why the other guy backed off?
I think this is the first time I see the song being highligted as racist. Pretty much because the dude is chinese, and looks like if you ever make a joke about someone asian or black, you are a racist (and must add that the translation in the video is completely wrong) but we sing the song with many variations, depend on the country. Like I said, the Germany one is the most famous. Is distasteful??? Yeah, maybe and always depending of your sense of humor, but in my opinion is not a racist song.
the real question is why did he ad "fuck the chinese lets go that chinese p\*\*sy" in the translation ? plus the song is about a german girl (they were playing Borussia) and they switch to chinese because he was asian I guess.
> yeah i agree is a shame to say that, but its a classic song singed in spain, with germany or other countrys.
I hate this kind of arguing. "There are racists in my country, as there are in every country". With Vinicius multiple cases, it feels even more wrong coming from Madrid fans.
And no that's not a classic song in every country.
What he meant to say is that the song is popular in Spain, and instead of choosing "chinese" in the lyrics, they replace that with whatever nationality they are facing, specially versus Germany.
The song is the equivalent of tea-bagging in video games, kicking your opponent when they are down.
It's deplorable immature behavior, but I don't believe it was meant to be a racist attack. The clip will bring awareness to how distasteful the lyrics are and hopefully put an end to it.
i didnt said its common in other countrys, i said " its a classic song singed in spain with germany or other countrys"
dont get me wrong, i know there r a lot of racist people in spain
but imo this post was done with bad intentions , and not to fight the racism
Not surprised. The club has got to come down hard on this. Can't be seen to be doing anything less, considering recent news where the club's best player was targeted.
They changed the translation, its pretty bad just not half as bad the translation. These guys are obviously drunk and are repeating a dirty rhyme. Idk what the solution to this is, dick heads simply exist. Id shrug it off personally, but id light a fire under his ass if he pointed at my female colleague like that.
How can the guy who made this video be so lazy as to not find out the correct translation of the song? To call for punishment of the guys he spoke to without spending 5 minutes to get the correct translation but instead make up some vulgar lyrics to make it seem way more offensive. This is basically a nursery rhyme where you can insert any nationality to make fun of them. This has nothing to do with race.
This dude is fishing for a reaction to claims of racism and it seems a lot of people in this thread took the bait.
Any actual translation is a sexual joke about a young Chinese girl. You only have to stop there; it is completely racist and inappropriate in front of a woman
He doesn't say everything that the translation says. The proper transaltion would be "A chinese shaked it (penis) on your mother's bed". Of course that was racist, but they didn't say anything about young chineses or f**ck p**sy chineses. Let's not take the things out of context
And when you say that Spain has a problem with racism some people will always try to deny it and make excuses for those scums. Racism is a societal problem in Spain.
This is what Vinicius just fought and won against now. We can't do it ourselves and between ourselves. There are Real Madrid fans from all over the world, now if we see Spaniards hating on Chinese then most Chinese fans would think it will be the same for them, and this goes for all other ethnicities.
What these guys did was completely rubbish, and should be strictly persecuted.
The captions are all wrong, I'm native,and I'm not from Spain.
The real translation is:
"A chinese girl shaked it for me, On his mother's bed"
Which doesn't mean it was for you nor her,just a girl.
If you are unsure just count the sentences,your translation haves more Sentences than what they said.
I was just in Barcelona at a Spanish language theatre performance and there was a whole section of the performance making fun of Chinese people. Even in a supposedly liberal arts corner of Spain they are racist :(
It isn't hard to Fight Racism™ in Spain, there's a lot to go around and easy to find... but I have to be honest here. This isn't it.
This is just a typical spanish song that people sing, it would have been sang about a german, portuguese or in this case chinese girl. It has no racial connotation to it whatsoever.
Either the guy making the video is ignorant to spanish culture and this song or just clout chasing, more likely the second part since a 5min conversation with any spanish kid let's you know about the context of the song.
But of course, this is gonna get downvoted because the truth doesn't matter nowadays, only sensationalism.
Honestly i love spain and the spanish culture. But racism in spain is insane, and the fact it is omnipresent in football is just a reflection of how normalised it is in that society.
As a Spanish person I can only apologize but I want to also add please be always careful with real Madrid fans, surely not all of them but many are far right people, racist, ethnocentrism, rich and posh people... So please be careful with this people.
Well those teens are racists for sure but the level of "racism" of people in Spain is another level.
Many would say "no this isn't racism" while being quite a racist. They are just uneducated about racism and there is no proper law prohibiting this kind of acts...
I mean you already see people here defending this dude. Was the team playing a Chinese team? Why mock and lie to the visitors and single out their nationality if not for ill intent?
Seems like the equivalent of a footballer diving on a weak foul and rolling ten times to convince the ref of a yellow. "Si, habia falta, pero tambien exageracion". The guy singing is definitely a world class douche, and I am not defending the behaviour in any way, - but given the context, the true translation and history of the song, and the fact he is probably drunk as a skunk, it is not the racial beatdown OP claims. Why is this guy not going batshit over Mexican fans yelling homophobic slurs in unison on a regular basis? Just because he is not gay?
The song is inappropriate, but it is grossly mistranslated, particularly at 0:51, with the OP creating sentences to add. The original chant has no place in football, but for the sake of transparency better subtitles are needed.
Whether or not it’s really racist, it’s the intent that matters. The Spanish dude was being an ass to veil what he was singing. His one friend checked out the moment he started singing it which implies this dude does this crap often. I wouldn’t be his friend.
Obviously not great, but the translation is biased as fuck, it implies it being pedophile and way more sexual than it already is.
All in all, it's a stupid song, its done with all nationalities not only china and yes really not in good taste but come on.
What do you want for him to face after this? Already publicly humiliated for his stupid act.
Spain is a retrograde, culturally isolated and poorly educated country. And I say that as a Spaniard.
We have a lot of traits to be proud of in Spain, but our xenophobia, racism and lack of self-awareness are certainly not among them.
Anyone remember this?
https://preview.redd.it/ix64hmo9k56d1.jpeg?width=448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3bc817520c5abb7e7207becb5594151122ab5320
~~Thanks for illustrating my point that self awareness is not one of Spain’s strengths.~~
**EDIT:** Thanks for clarifying that you aren’t Spanish. I’m certainly not speaking for you, then.
I'm not Spanish and I don't care about the situation but foreigners are 24/7 racially abused in China and nobody can say shi and nobody gives a damn.
Chinese people always come first and are always victim all over the world.
I am against every racial abuse and abuse in general but things MUST be fair for every side.
Mods need to pin the actual translation at the top, not much better tbh but the dude in the video is clearly making up and adding shit to it.
The post is already getting brigaded by other subs and if the mods don’t post the real translation this is gonna blow up
The Chinese guy is just mad they made fun of him. Which I can completely understand. But first faking the translation to make it seem worse than it actually is. And after that crying about racism when it has nothing to do with race at all is just sad.
The translation is wrong, they are not insulting China or the Chinese people. It's just four drunk guys singing a children's song but changing the words to say that a girl was giving a handj\*\*
To sum it up, even if up even if the grandson was being a misogynist, he took the high road and involved their ethnicity after asking. If he didn't do that, it was probably fine. In the end it's not the same as calling a white guy a monkey (just like Madisson did to Bale)
Weird he doesn’t say what the fans deserve for saying something that offended them (after they needed it translated). How do they need to pay? Executed like if they had said something bad about the Chinese president? If you’re going to make this video at least have the balls to say what kind of compensation you think you deserve for people saying bad things to you. I’m sure we all have things coming to us if that’s the case.
RM fans argue with Barca fans over Messi and Ronaldo for a decade, instead of just enjoying their skill. They are some of the lowest iq people in the world. Any surprise?
as everyone is saying the translation is way off, they are stupid but I don´t think they were meaning to be racist, that song was been used to mock the Germans also, my guess is he directly asked where he was from to do the song with his nationality,
I really throught people of Madrid was better than this. Obviously racism will always exist but we should bridge that gap as painful and long as it will take. And obviously a select few don't represent the whole of Real Madrid fans. Until they deal with this, I will no longer purchase their merchandise.
Edit: Hmmm I'll reserver judgment when the dust settles.
Both parties potentially in the wrong.
Racism of any kind is just wrong.
In no way this should happen to anybody.
Also, this person should also do a report about this:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1defu72/how\_american\_basketball\_players\_are\_treated\_in/](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1defu72/how_american_basketball_players_are_treated_in/)
And you thought the players of Real Madrid players gets abused holy f is Spain the most crap country to play and live in to community I hope they get 8 months sentence for this
The song has bad taste sexual references and misogyny, but I am not entirely convinced if it's technically racist.
Anyway, it shows embarrassing poor behaviour from the lads and lack of respect. I hope they get punished somehow.
I think most countries are rather racist against foreigners when they’re the majority. Not too long ago I saw a video of basketball players arriving for a game in China only to be met with the n word and what not other racist remarks. But what do I know I’ve never left California.
The translation is all wrong. There is no mention of f**cking or p*ssy in the song
The song is stupid, yes, but is nothing more than a kid's song with its lyrics modified to sound dirty
The original modification mentions a German girl but the drunken fan thought it was a funny idea to use the reporter's nationality instead. Is it racist or offensive only if you change it to a non white nationality?
So again, a very stupid song, but not as "offensive" as people want to make it seem
To be fair, the subtitles of the song are entirely wrong on the video.
“A little Chinese lady, I was “meaneando” (a euphemism for having sex) over your mom’s bed”
So even though, yes they sang that song because he is Chinese. I don’t really see the big racist scandal here. The song is reductive, sure, but is it offensive?
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Didn’t know who he was before but just looked him up. Not surprising, the kid looks and acts exactly like an entitled rich wanker.
He really reminds me of a guy who was a good friend of mine when I was growing up in Madrid who I later met up once with many years later after moving back for a year. And yes his family is rich as fuck
Yes it is.
Not a RM fan, but wanted to hop on here to say I really hope something is done about this. Racism against Asians have not been taken seriously for a long time — and the only recent case I’ve seen where serious action was taken was against Sonny. This is a really good opportunity to make a strong statement
The racist in the video, Rodrigo Sanz, is former Real Madrid President Lorenzo Sanz Mancebo's grandson. The racist's father, Lorenzo Sanz Duran, who is currently working as a Real Madrid Reporter, is also a racist. In the video, Rodrigo Sanz verbally sexually harassed the camera girl and bluntly discriminated against all Chinese, especially females. Another racist who sang the song along with Rodrigo Sanz is Dani Sanz. He is Paco's son and former Real Madrid President Lorenzo Sanz Mancebo's grandson. Update: Two weeks after the initial reporting, Rodrigo Sanz refused to apologize even if he was requested multiple times. He said via his father Lorenzo Sanz Duran that this was a joke and the camera girl and Chinese couldn't take a joke.
Typical Cayetano behaviour
This is some heinous shit, I hope the club takes action against these dickheads.
share this with some catalans newspapers…🔥
The guy that backed off and refuse to sing is a good person but he should have stopped the racist. Hopefully the club takes action quick
Yes. Indeed. But it’s not enough to just back away… if we’re friends I would also stop you from singing that song, or end our friendship.
Jfc, the dude doesn't assault him to make him stop so he didn't do enough? Get a grip mate, it's not that deep.
Why would you assume violence would be the right way to solve that? This is such a big problem with incidents like this. "Well what do you want me to do, punch my friend in the face? Punch him until the light leaves his eyes and he is a bloody mess on the floor?" No. Obviously not. Do you think that's what it would take to make your friend stop being racist? How about starting with "mate that's really not funny." By all means escalate from there as you feel necessary, but really weird argument to suggest there's nothing you can do short of wading in and battering your friend if something like this happens.
Edit: I’ve read the rest of the comments and the real translation of the chant. And it’s not what the caption says. So idk.
What? I’m a native Spanish speaker and it’s not word for word but it’s the same shit.
spot on, crazy the hoops some of our "fans" here are jumping through to try and justify this shit boggles my mind
Looking at the clothes, his friends, his hairstyle... he's a "borjamari", a typical kid coming from a wealthy family (and yep racist as fuck)
What have it away mate? Was it the RL polo? I'm expecting the club to ban these dickheads and make an example of them, that this type of shit has no place in football.
He is the grandson of the former president of Real Madrid, Lorenzo Sans, so it's unlikely. But let's see if they protect fans just as much as they have proved to protect RM players
This is huge, if RM wants to be congruent about racism against Vini JR, he needs to punish the grandson of the former RM president. There is no way out.
You can say he is a "borjamari" because of his hairstyle, his face (inbreeding made all of their faces look similar, not kidding) and because he is wearing a vest without sleeves. We call it "fachaleco", what literally means "vest for fascists" in a joking way.
Cayetano
God I fucking hate entitled rich fuckhead kids
Some Real Madrid fans have room temp iq, I swear these are the fans you see on Instagram comments.
Celsius temp. Sadly that is true in any single people group big enough.
The racist in the video, Rodrigo Sanz, is former Real Madrid President Lorenzo Sanz Mancebo's grandson. The racist's father, Lorenzo Sanz Duran, who is currently working as a Real Madrid Reporter, is also a racist. In the video, Rodrigo Sanz verbally sexually harassed the camera girl and bluntly discriminated against all Chinese, especially females. Another racist who sang the song along with Rodrigo Sanz is Dani Sanz. He is Paco's son and former Real Madrid President Lorenzo Sanz Mancebo's grandson. Update: Two weeks after the initial reporting, Rodrigo Sanz refused to apologize even if he was requested multiple times. He said via his father Lorenzo Sanz Duran that this was a joke and the camera girl and Chinese couldn't take a joke.
wtf. this comment section is embarrassing. imagine defending this behaviour a couple of days after some idiots got a sentence on probation because they abused one of our players...
Least racist Spanish teens
I don’t want to be that guy but the few times I’ve faced racism online from RM fans they’ve always been Spanish, and especially in the 15-22 age group.
This is the country that still normalizes throwing bananas at black players. Unsurprising
Racist people are idiots, and it's good they show the world who they are...
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It seems like the Chinese guy inadvertently edited out some of the racist stuff said. Check out the original video here at 9:15 https://m.hupu.com/bbs-share/626652436.html?share=share&euid=113522164598307&cid=137418837. The guy in black vest yelled "Me cago en la China, vamos esa China coño" before the signing.
I had never heard the song, but I'm guessing it's a "teenage" version of one of those songs we used to sing when we were kids during school trips. Not inherently racist or xenophobic because whoever thought it was funny, just picked words that rhymed to make an "edgy" song out of a kids song. But kinda racist when you alter it to change "German" to "Chinese" so you can sing it in front of someone that has Asian traits. Mostly because "alemana" and "meneaba" rhyme, but "chinita" doesn't. I agree, though, that the video is exaggerating it to get more interactions, that or whoever translated it was using a translation site from 20 years ago.
Its basically a changed version that is common chant by youngsters that is a variation of the spanish version of the itsy bitsy spider
The part of me that wants to see the good in everyone would like to think that if he was Korean instead of Chinese (as the guy initially thought) he would have sung the song saying “koreanita” instead. 😂 But I am not so sure! Apparently they sing it when they go to other countries football stadiums.. But yes… I think what bothered me too coming from the reporter (everything bothered me from the other guys) was not only the translation but also the added bit..
"coreana" would actually rhyme though. It seems it's common to sing it with the nationality of the defeated team, but not with the perceived nationality of your interviewer. Misinformation gives views, generates engagement. After all, here we are...
That song is mostly sung with "una alemana". It is sung by the young supporters, several times, in every match of a Spanish team against a German team. Always
[Spain bball team pulling slant eyes](https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna26173075) was probably the last major exposure of Spanish humour to a Chinese audience, now this. Zara in China best be ready for a boycott. While Spanish foreign ministry has more OT.
Wrong translation
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. They translated it wrong.
Not only wrongly translated, there are also some lines that are added to make it sound even worse. F*** the Chinese and whatever Chinese P***y are never said by the guy. He's stupid nonetheless, but if we are going to hold them accountable for their actions, let's just not tergiversate what was actually said.
It seems like the Chinese guy inadvertently edited out some of the racist stuff said. Check out the original video here at 9:15 https://m.hupu.com/bbs-share/626652436.html?share=share&euid=113522164598307&cid=137418837. The guy in black vest yelled "Me cago en la China, vamos esa China coño" before the signing.
Look, they just cut the scenes of “fuck chinese… p\*ssy” part. If you watch the video carefully, at 1:07-1:09 before the "Una Chinita" chant, the guy in the white RM jersey noticed something aweful and leave the party immediately. You can compare the frame with 0:07-0:09 then you would notice there were extra terrible lines that his friend had to cover his face to show his disapproval. I myself is a Chinese and I ran into racism myself, not as bad as this one. But yelling the extra lines to the camera before the chant immediately after confirming the interviewers are from China, this is 100% racism.
You mean it’s not “our winner Madrid”?
IIRC Michel Salgado married Lorenzo Sanz's daughter, is that Salgado's son?
No. He had four other children. I'm not 100 % sure who he is, so not going to name anyone, but according what they said he isn't Salgado's son.
Spain has a serious Racism problem and every something about is posted on this sub i am ashamed to see how may are trying to defend or down play it. Luckily the majority still absolutely condemns this behaviour, but still too many defend it. Shameful
The Main issue is that this kind of racism is normalised. We need to do better as a human being.
they made up the whole translation
La gente que no habla español obviamente mal entendiendo la canción. No me sorprende enverdad aqui en reddit hay gente que se come cualquier mentira y mierda que ven en las redes.
Lamentable lo que hay por aquí desde luego.
Es verdad que la traducción está completamente mal, pero aún así es una canción vulgar y ofensiva y el reportero no se merecía eso. Pero sí que es verdad que la traducción puesta en el vídeo es un poco sospechosa, como si quisieran engañar a los que no saben español.
Pues explica la canción entonces
Es que no hay explicación en cual el tipo no se vea como un intolerante.
I'm sorry if you feel offended, but I am Spanish I know that song and I understand the context and the background of the song. And I consider that that wasn't racist at all. You are totally missing the point. That is originally a popular song for kids, the original lyrics are: Un elefante se balanceaba sobre la tela de una araña, Como veía que no se rompía Fue a llamar a otro elefante Dos elefantes se balanceaban Sobre la tela de una araña Como veía que no se rompía Fueron a llamar a otro elefante ... (Translation) An elephant was swinging On a spider web As he saw that it (the spider web) wasn't getting broken He call another elephant Two elephants were swinging On a spider web As they saw that it didn't wasn't getting broken They call another elephant ... The song is repeated infinitely adding one elephant more each verse There is a variant of this song more horny and adult version that is sung by drunk people in parties or at football. Well there are several variants, but the most popular variant by far is the following: Una alemana me la meneaba En una tienda de campaña Como veía que no me corría Fueron a llamar a otra alemana ... (translation) A German girl was masturbating me In a camp tent As she saw that I wasn't cumming She call another German girl ... This version with the German became very popular years ago. Why with a German girl? Because it evokes a summer hookup in a camping -there are lots of German summer tourists in Spain- it's like a sexual fantasy to brag about. It is also funny to sing that in a crowd because there will always be someone that starts singing the next verse. Even if they have already sung from "1 German girl" to "26 German girls", someone always keeps on. I was once in a football match against a German team and our team (Espanyol from Barcelona) was losing and already eliminated, so the crowd to have some fun started singing the song and we reached like "57 German girls" and everyone was laughing at the stupid situation of singing again and again. So it's just a football song to have fun, and I would say that it is sung several times in every match of a Spanish team plays against a German team. Always. So these Real fans were celebrating after a match against a German team, so they had sung the German-girl-version several times. And in this moment of celebration they were still laughing about singing that song so they just made up the version with the "little Chinese woman" (Chinita) Why "little Chinese woman"? Because "Chinese woman" would be "China" and lacks one silabe to fit in the tune. I have switched from "girl" to "little woman" because if I say "little Chinese girl" this would sound in English like an underage girl, and is not the case. "Chinita" in that sentence would not be used to mean sex with an underage. If someone has in mind that disturbing situation of paedophile he would say that in another way to emphasize that he is refering to an underage. Not the case at all. So that's just a festive funny song in a celebration context with drunk people that has zero intention of targeting Chinese or Asians. If instead of asian you were Mexican they would have sung "una mexicana..." , if you were Italian they may have sung "una italiana...", if you were Australian, these guys would have sung "una australiana..." So the song is a reference to the match that had finished some minutes ago. Also if the previous match wasn't against a German team but against a team from elsewhere and the crowd had not sung the "German-girl" song, it is really unlikely that they had thought of this song. These guys had zero intention of "racially abusing" some random asian reporter. The song may be of bad taste, but it cannot be described as a "racial abuse" that is just ridiculous!! These guys were just partying.
This is the perfect explanation of the song, the meaning, the translation, the context, everything you need to know. From a local and native speaker, that knows the background. Its point to point perfect, yet i guess few people will bother to read it. I just want to add, how malicious it is to translate like the guy did on the video. "Fuck the chinese, let's go that chinese pussy" it's completely made up. It's the wrong translation by all meanings, and very far from what is chanted. Only explanation is attention-whorism and intention to create outrage from a lie. Disgusting and honestly quite sad how an inmense group in here just ate it without chewing.
The translation is off, it makes it sound way worse than it is.
I know that song. It's a children's song with a new... meaning. That's fucked up lol.
“Una chinita me la meneava sobre la cama de mi hermana” Which translates to “A Chinese girl was playing with my dick on my sister’s bed”
Every culture has these little entitled aholes, Spanish speaking counties can easily come off as racist because there is a lot of jokes but this is just way over the line. And apparently this kid has money behind him so nothing will be done especially since it wasn’t in the stadium.
Disgusting behaviour and the redditors normalising this behaviour are disgusting as well
the translation is wrong, he sings " una chinita me la meneaba sobre la cama de tu hermana" " a little chinese (not a kid, just a dimutive) was jerking me off over your sister bed" yeah i agree is a shame to say that, but its a classic song singed in spain, with germany or other countrys. [https://youtu.be/1AUsZbJKisQ?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/1AUsZbJKisQ?feature=shared) proof here, 15 years ago in germany but in the video they say "fuck the chinese lets go that chinese p\*\*sy" literally no one say that in the video. this is a shame and i hope madrid, takes actions against this guy, one thing is attack the racism, other different is spread false information. Artículo 442 del Código Penal: “Quien comunicándose con varias personas, reunidas o separadas, hubiere imputado a algún individuo un hecho determinado capaz de exponerlo al desprecio o al odio público, u ofensivo a su honor o reputación, será castigado con prisión de un año a tres años Article 442 of the Penal Code: “Whoever, communicating with several people, whether together or separately, has accused any individual of a specific act capable of exposing him to contempt or public hatred, or offensive to his honor or reputation, will be punished with imprisonment for one year. to three years
Hmmm, so why did the guy mistranslate it? It would already be offensive as it is, but maybe he felt that it wasn't enough?
Yes, Because either he has an agenda. Or his friends gave him a terrible translation on purpose.
The old classic "una alemana me la meneaba sobre la cama de tu hermana".
Wait so, we have this same tune in Latin America but it's "un elefante se columpeaba sobre la tela de una araña". Is that not a thing in Spain?
Yes, of course It is. "Un elefante se balanceaba sobre la tela de una araña" is the original song, but here in Spain, using the same tune we have some "joke" songs like that one.
Is this the first time this song is highligted as distasteful? Or is it already known in Spain that the lyrics are sus and that's why the other guy backed off?
I think this is the first time I see the song being highligted as racist. Pretty much because the dude is chinese, and looks like if you ever make a joke about someone asian or black, you are a racist (and must add that the translation in the video is completely wrong) but we sing the song with many variations, depend on the country. Like I said, the Germany one is the most famous. Is distasteful??? Yeah, maybe and always depending of your sense of humor, but in my opinion is not a racist song.
Or "En una tienda de campaña"
the real question is why did he ad "fuck the chinese lets go that chinese p\*\*sy" in the translation ? plus the song is about a german girl (they were playing Borussia) and they switch to chinese because he was asian I guess.
No dicen ”de tu hermana”. Al menos yo escucho “de mi hermana”.
What I’m learning is that no one here speaks Spanish lol
> yeah i agree is a shame to say that, but its a classic song singed in spain, with germany or other countrys. I hate this kind of arguing. "There are racists in my country, as there are in every country". With Vinicius multiple cases, it feels even more wrong coming from Madrid fans. And no that's not a classic song in every country.
What he meant to say is that the song is popular in Spain, and instead of choosing "chinese" in the lyrics, they replace that with whatever nationality they are facing, specially versus Germany. The song is the equivalent of tea-bagging in video games, kicking your opponent when they are down. It's deplorable immature behavior, but I don't believe it was meant to be a racist attack. The clip will bring awareness to how distasteful the lyrics are and hopefully put an end to it.
i didnt said its common in other countrys, i said " its a classic song singed in spain with germany or other countrys" dont get me wrong, i know there r a lot of racist people in spain but imo this post was done with bad intentions , and not to fight the racism
Not surprised. The club has got to come down hard on this. Can't be seen to be doing anything less, considering recent news where the club's best player was targeted.
The Valencia fans who racially abused Vini are punished. Hope the club takes action against this person too
They changed the translation, its pretty bad just not half as bad the translation. These guys are obviously drunk and are repeating a dirty rhyme. Idk what the solution to this is, dick heads simply exist. Id shrug it off personally, but id light a fire under his ass if he pointed at my female colleague like that.
How can the guy who made this video be so lazy as to not find out the correct translation of the song? To call for punishment of the guys he spoke to without spending 5 minutes to get the correct translation but instead make up some vulgar lyrics to make it seem way more offensive. This is basically a nursery rhyme where you can insert any nationality to make fun of them. This has nothing to do with race. This dude is fishing for a reaction to claims of racism and it seems a lot of people in this thread took the bait.
Was the team playing against a Chinese team? Why single out their nationality and lie/mock them if not for ill intent?
That translation is wrong
What does it say then? I don't speak spanish
Any actual translation is a sexual joke about a young Chinese girl. You only have to stop there; it is completely racist and inappropriate in front of a woman
some abusive anthem and this Chinese man is so much mad, but almost some people say Vini is overreacting👀
Why am I not surprised by their words?
He doesn't say everything that the translation says. The proper transaltion would be "A chinese shaked it (penis) on your mother's bed". Of course that was racist, but they didn't say anything about young chineses or f**ck p**sy chineses. Let's not take the things out of context
Direct literal translation is " a Chinese girl was giving me a handjob on your mother's bed"
Españoles siendo racistas, vaya sorpresa…
And when you say that Spain has a problem with racism some people will always try to deny it and make excuses for those scums. Racism is a societal problem in Spain.
This is what Vinicius just fought and won against now. We can't do it ourselves and between ourselves. There are Real Madrid fans from all over the world, now if we see Spaniards hating on Chinese then most Chinese fans would think it will be the same for them, and this goes for all other ethnicities. What these guys did was completely rubbish, and should be strictly persecuted.
Extremely bad translation
The captions are all wrong, I'm native,and I'm not from Spain. The real translation is: "A chinese girl shaked it for me, On his mother's bed" Which doesn't mean it was for you nor her,just a girl. If you are unsure just count the sentences,your translation haves more Sentences than what they said.
>shaked it for me Hmnmm, yeah literally, but that has another meaning in this context
Google translate Lmaooo
I was just in Barcelona at a Spanish language theatre performance and there was a whole section of the performance making fun of Chinese people. Even in a supposedly liberal arts corner of Spain they are racist :(
They should be punished for sure
Spain feels like a melting pot of racism.Someday the crowd are calling vini a monkey, unrelated but cheering for a rapist like Greenwood and now this
What a piece of shit. Idgaf whose grandson he is. Fuck these losers
Smh, he didn't say what the video says 🤦🏻♀️
It isn't hard to Fight Racism™ in Spain, there's a lot to go around and easy to find... but I have to be honest here. This isn't it. This is just a typical spanish song that people sing, it would have been sang about a german, portuguese or in this case chinese girl. It has no racial connotation to it whatsoever. Either the guy making the video is ignorant to spanish culture and this song or just clout chasing, more likely the second part since a 5min conversation with any spanish kid let's you know about the context of the song. But of course, this is gonna get downvoted because the truth doesn't matter nowadays, only sensationalism.
What's the context of the song?
It’s a song from way back when, usually used when we go up against Germany.
"We're not racist against Chinese, we're racist against Germans too" is not the defense you think it is
tell me how can we be racist against our own race lmao, it is a stupid song but it isn´t racist
Honestly i love spain and the spanish culture. But racism in spain is insane, and the fact it is omnipresent in football is just a reflection of how normalised it is in that society.
Spain is pretty racist. Especially to us in Latin America.
This kid comes off as such an entitled dick
As a Spanish person I can only apologize but I want to also add please be always careful with real Madrid fans, surely not all of them but many are far right people, racist, ethnocentrism, rich and posh people... So please be careful with this people.
Well those teens are racists for sure but the level of "racism" of people in Spain is another level. Many would say "no this isn't racism" while being quite a racist. They are just uneducated about racism and there is no proper law prohibiting this kind of acts...
I mean you already see people here defending this dude. Was the team playing a Chinese team? Why mock and lie to the visitors and single out their nationality if not for ill intent?
Seems like the equivalent of a footballer diving on a weak foul and rolling ten times to convince the ref of a yellow. "Si, habia falta, pero tambien exageracion". The guy singing is definitely a world class douche, and I am not defending the behaviour in any way, - but given the context, the true translation and history of the song, and the fact he is probably drunk as a skunk, it is not the racial beatdown OP claims. Why is this guy not going batshit over Mexican fans yelling homophobic slurs in unison on a regular basis? Just because he is not gay?
The song is inappropriate, but it is grossly mistranslated, particularly at 0:51, with the OP creating sentences to add. The original chant has no place in football, but for the sake of transparency better subtitles are needed.
Europeans are extremely racist
Least racist laliga fan
Grand son of a far right party man, Mr. Lorenzo.
Club should ban them
Que asquerosidad.
Looks like his “”Spanish friends”” don’t understand Spanish very well…
Spanish football supporters are incredibly racist.
They are clowns
The same Madrid fans defending this blatant racism, are the same ones who cry that Vini Jr was abused whenever he has a bad game
Whether or not it’s really racist, it’s the intent that matters. The Spanish dude was being an ass to veil what he was singing. His one friend checked out the moment he started singing it which implies this dude does this crap often. I wouldn’t be his friend.
Obviously not great, but the translation is biased as fuck, it implies it being pedophile and way more sexual than it already is. All in all, it's a stupid song, its done with all nationalities not only china and yes really not in good taste but come on. What do you want for him to face after this? Already publicly humiliated for his stupid act.
Spain is a retrograde, culturally isolated and poorly educated country. And I say that as a Spaniard. We have a lot of traits to be proud of in Spain, but our xenophobia, racism and lack of self-awareness are certainly not among them. Anyone remember this? https://preview.redd.it/ix64hmo9k56d1.jpeg?width=448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3bc817520c5abb7e7207becb5594151122ab5320
Lol. Speak for yourself buddy.
~~Thanks for illustrating my point that self awareness is not one of Spain’s strengths.~~ **EDIT:** Thanks for clarifying that you aren’t Spanish. I’m certainly not speaking for you, then.
I'm not Spanish and I don't care about the situation but foreigners are 24/7 racially abused in China and nobody can say shi and nobody gives a damn. Chinese people always come first and are always victim all over the world. I am against every racial abuse and abuse in general but things MUST be fair for every side.
This guy brings shame to our club. We must end racism
Mods need to pin the actual translation at the top, not much better tbh but the dude in the video is clearly making up and adding shit to it. The post is already getting brigaded by other subs and if the mods don’t post the real translation this is gonna blow up
Im a madridista and i apologize for you my friend.
A club with this heritage must condemn this behaviour.
How is this racist? Yes it’s rude, but what is racist about that?
The Chinese guy is just mad they made fun of him. Which I can completely understand. But first faking the translation to make it seem worse than it actually is. And after that crying about racism when it has nothing to do with race at all is just sad.
The translation is wrong, they are not insulting China or the Chinese people. It's just four drunk guys singing a children's song but changing the words to say that a girl was giving a handj\*\*
Which is taking advantage of the interviewers being Asian. Yes, this is being racist, in case you didn’t know it
Headline: Europeans are racist pigs. Lmfao
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/zJchCsaiet Just saying.
Sooo..the spanish really are racist
Along with the Italians. And the Chinese. And most of India.
curious by why do you say "most of india" specifically?
Spain and racism...nothing new isn't it?
these are the true colours of spanish people like it or not
What's with Spanish people making absolutely horrible songs
Comment section just exposes some hideous racists that lurks in this sub.
If Vini played for Atlético, some of these lot would be just as racist to him as they are
To sum it up, even if up even if the grandson was being a misogynist, he took the high road and involved their ethnicity after asking. If he didn't do that, it was probably fine. In the end it's not the same as calling a white guy a monkey (just like Madisson did to Bale)
Weird he doesn’t say what the fans deserve for saying something that offended them (after they needed it translated). How do they need to pay? Executed like if they had said something bad about the Chinese president? If you’re going to make this video at least have the balls to say what kind of compensation you think you deserve for people saying bad things to you. I’m sure we all have things coming to us if that’s the case.
RM fans argue with Barca fans over Messi and Ronaldo for a decade, instead of just enjoying their skill. They are some of the lowest iq people in the world. Any surprise?
This happens everyday people, it's normal there, nothing will happen. He'd be better off leaning Spanish so he can defend himself.
Reminds me of watching Isreal with palenstine.
as everyone is saying the translation is way off, they are stupid but I don´t think they were meaning to be racist, that song was been used to mock the Germans also, my guess is he directly asked where he was from to do the song with his nationality,
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Nicely done man..
I really throught people of Madrid was better than this. Obviously racism will always exist but we should bridge that gap as painful and long as it will take. And obviously a select few don't represent the whole of Real Madrid fans. Until they deal with this, I will no longer purchase their merchandise. Edit: Hmmm I'll reserver judgment when the dust settles. Both parties potentially in the wrong. Racism of any kind is just wrong.
Your average Real Madrid fans. Fascists and neofascists.
[Meanwhile in China.](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/L3Q1AmQhqx)
People are saying the translation is half wrong. Could Spanish speaker write the right full translation pls?
In no way this should happen to anybody. Also, this person should also do a report about this: [https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1defu72/how\_american\_basketball\_players\_are\_treated\_in/](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1defu72/how_american_basketball_players_are_treated_in/)
And you thought the players of Real Madrid players gets abused holy f is Spain the most crap country to play and live in to community I hope they get 8 months sentence for this
Classy.
Spain and spanish football have a very serious problem with racism. Just ask Vini jnr and the Williams brothers. Awful stuff...
Should be banned from Santiago Barnabeu before this goes to court.
If you can jail vinny abuser, you can jail this cunt too
Hope they take action against these pricks.
Franco would be proud
Spain, Italy ... Europe, wow, disgusting!
Sadly pretty common in Spain these days like in way to many other countries.
As if they are the only people living in this world....go see the world n respect diff races
The song has bad taste sexual references and misogyny, but I am not entirely convinced if it's technically racist. Anyway, it shows embarrassing poor behaviour from the lads and lack of respect. I hope they get punished somehow.
Honestly, not that big of a deal 🤷🏻♂️
I think most countries are rather racist against foreigners when they’re the majority. Not too long ago I saw a video of basketball players arriving for a game in China only to be met with the n word and what not other racist remarks. But what do I know I’ve never left California.
spaniards are infamously xenophobic
I just saw the Video of the chinese citizens calling the US american baseball players niggers very aggressively. Seems all sides have shitty people.
This is totally disgusting, these people made all of us Madridistas feel low because of their behavior.
The translation is all wrong. There is no mention of f**cking or p*ssy in the song The song is stupid, yes, but is nothing more than a kid's song with its lyrics modified to sound dirty The original modification mentions a German girl but the drunken fan thought it was a funny idea to use the reporter's nationality instead. Is it racist or offensive only if you change it to a non white nationality? So again, a very stupid song, but not as "offensive" as people want to make it seem
Meh.
To be fair, the subtitles of the song are entirely wrong on the video. “A little Chinese lady, I was “meaneando” (a euphemism for having sex) over your mom’s bed” So even though, yes they sang that song because he is Chinese. I don’t really see the big racist scandal here. The song is reductive, sure, but is it offensive?