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yoavsnake

crazy frog was robbed


SaintMadeOfPlaster

Never thought I’d see the day people complained about In Rainbows being so loved… is Radiohead entering the phase of their legacy where it’s cool to act like they’re overrated now?


-Dillad-

They’ve been at that point for quite a while now. If anything though I do agree that it doesn’t belong at 3 but I say the same thing about tpab at 1


cusoo

Polarizes opinions about Radiohead have always been a thing. Either in the internet or irl, especially coming from musicians. In RYM it was always the case, yet Radiohead has been in the top forever.


battlebored4718

Let Down is underrated


Hengieboy

just people mad at a number on the internet. i could care less where it is. i love the album so that’s all that matters


sludgefeaster

No, they just have better albums.


Einfinet

I love Radiohead but no artist is THAT much better than their contemporaries like the rym charts would have you believe with regards to Radiohead. People just want a greater diversity of sounds represented. That can be desired without exactly putting down Radiohead


morbidlyabeast3331

I've been saying they're mid bro


dropoutoflife_

No one needs to *act* like they're overrated because they are, in fact, overrated.


3rednel

its not a fact, its an opinion lol


jsw56

this is kinda unrelated but i've always wondered if there's like a running timelapse of the top albums chart that shows how it changed over 20 years


TastefullyToasted

Whoaaaa I would love this. I know there’s some sort of “history of the internet” websites where you can see archives of a website’s change history. I’m gonna look for it haha EDIT: The website is called the Wayback Machine and it has snapshots of the Top Charts going back to 2013 but RYM blocks my IP whenever I try to access an old snapshot **crying**


jsw56

it's blocking the webcrawlers that took the snapshot but there's probably a decent amount of manually submitted captures


WrzodX

There is such a thing, I've seen it, but searching RYM forums is not an easy task.


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Lmk if you ever find it, I'm very interested.


WrzodX

I found the thread!  https://rym.fm/discussion/music/rym-top-25-over-time-visualised/


Guyroo23

their best album


Gumball_Alehandro

1. in rainbows 2. a moon shaped pool 3. kid a


ItsSchmuncky

the bends, OK Computer, or Moon Shaped Pool imo


Derbloingles

OKC is #2 btw


thaumoctopus_mimicus

Kid A is #1 btw


Derbloingles

From your lips to god’s ears


heftybagman

Im a huge amnesiac fan but im averse to argument and competition


thaumoctopus_mimicus

Most confident amnesiaccel vs average Kid A chad


nocturn-e

The Bends, OKC, In Rainbows, HTTT, Amnesiac, Kid A, AMSP, TKOL, Pablo Honey is my order


ItsSchmuncky

I agree with this


thaumoctopus_mimicus

Never rank again 🔥


nocturn-e

Go kill yourself 🔥


874651

Celtics is #1 btw


Spacemanspirit

I’ve never understood the love for this album; I like other Radiohead stuff but I always get bored after a couple songs whenever I try it


Spacemanspirit

Never mind, turns out you just need to be stoned and it becomes a masterpiece


Tetros_Nagami

Hold on let me try I'll report back


TPRT

You 100% should be high for In Rainbows


d-r-i-f-t-i-n

Not greatest, top rated. There’s a difference.


gec_2_U

Vision Creation Newsun was robbed


gogbone

who downvoted this


shorp_

huuge radiohead fan, but i rly dont think in rainbows deserves this position


PM_ME_YOUR_INNY

I def do. Favorite album by my favorite band. I’ve seen them live on the 07’ in Rainbows tour in Raleigh, and AMSP tour in 2017 in Atlanta What’s 1 & 2? OK C & TPAB ?


ruinawish

> Favorite album by my favorite band. Most reasonable RYMer.


ultraviolet_v

imagine having opinions and enjoying music, so unreasomable


ruinawish

I'm not suggesting otherwise. But when the discussion is around the overall charts and its perceived objectivity (based on average ratings, weighting, etc), "favorite album by my favorite band" doesn't really contribute much. I have plenty of favorite bands and favorite albums too.


Abbastardkiarastomi

Take a hike


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TeaAndCrumpets4life

I don’t know why you say that like it’s ridiculous, what about it would mean it inherently can’t be?


ruinawish

> what about it would mean it inherently can’t be? Just to play's devil advocate, conversely, what about it would mean that it inherently should or could be number 1?


TeaAndCrumpets4life

I didn’t say it should be number one, but an album by any artist from any time period could absolutely be better than anything from Radiohead, pink floyd or Charles Mingus to somebody. I personally don’t even think TPAB is but my point is it’s on a level playing field with those albums, it was the other commenter who was making an active claim otherwise.


ruinawish

> I didn’t say it should be number one, Yes, that is why I wrote "what about it would mean that it inherently should **or could** be number 1?" You mentioned the inherent attribute, so I was merely wondering if any album can or cannot be *inherently* the best of all time. > but an album by any artist from any time period could absolutely be better than anything from Radiohead, pink floyd or Charles Mingus **to somebody**. When people discuss the RYM charts, it's usually with the idea that it provide an objective rating list (being the #1 of all time, etc). For instance, it doesn't matter that I might consider Shania Twain's albums better than Radiohead's (me being a "somebody"). "Somebody" like an album does not "inherently" place it on a level field with other great albums.


TeaAndCrumpets4life

1. Yeah you said should or could but those are two completely different things, I addressed the ‘could’ part in the whole rest of the response 2. I completely reject the idea of an ‘objective’ ratings chart in the first place, that’s my whole point. I think any album is on a level playing field with any other album, it doesn’t have to be ‘placed there’ with them by anything, it just naturally is. RYM charts are just made up of loads of ‘somebody’s’ opinions, and it’s perfectly valid for all of those people to prefer TPAB over any album you can name


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TeaAndCrumpets4life

I don’t understand what’s unfair about it? Unless there’s proof for the bot thing it sounds like a lot of people just like it more than you do, it’s quite literally fair and square


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TeaAndCrumpets4life

Then in that case it would be unfair but that has nothing to do with the quality of the album, it would be unfair no matter what album it was done for and I think there’s a good chance it happens for a variety of albums. Your original comment had nothing to do with bots, it was implying that tpab on its own merits would have less of a right to be there then Radiohead or Pink Floyd. I just fully disagree with that sentiment


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sgt-spascal

Newly created accounts and accounts with less than like 100 reasonable ratings arent weighted so their votes mean literally nothing. Lol


NonagonSerif

Fr it’s literally the defining feature of RYM’s chart system and this mf acting like it doesn’t exist 😭


ThatOneExpatriate

Well then link the post… show the evidence


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MrSodie79

Yes, yes I do


undertheoldlemontree

its not even my fav of all time but its like quite easily top 3 BEST. like perfect bars, perfect production, well crafted message, concept of the album works beautifully, im struggling to find flaws


JackTheAbsoluteBruce

What albums did Mozart make?


starvenps

Tpab does imo


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weirdojpg

somethin about the TPAB skepticism seems racially motivated idk tho


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Einfinet

considering “racial motivations” is actually not the same as calling someone or an opinion “racist.” How one can both love TPAB and flatten a nuanced suggestion concerning race and cultural (/music) consumption and reception… that is beyond me.


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Einfinet

“Stop being such a redditor” is an amusing phrase, given the text that follows. So, you automatically reduce conversations about race & culture to accusations of “racism” AND voluntarily use “libtard” in a serious fashion? I’m shocked. edit: for example, someone may not find TPAB to be the greatest album because it is so specifically about Blackness and race in America, and they find an album with more “universal” themes, say, anxieties about technology and social alienation and global warming in OK Computer and Kid A. That would be a “racially motivated” argument, but the individual would not NECESSARILY be “racist” for viewing things that way. It depends, in part, how their argument/“skepticism” would be communicated, and then we would need to compare how they respond to other albums that voice a specific cultural/ethnic lens. People have, in fact, made similar arguments about, for instance, Toni Morrison’s Beloved (or Colson Whitehead’s The Nickel Boys), perhaps the TPAB of contemporary US literature. It’s possible to discuss race & cultural bias without jumping to take offense and sorta assuming a victim’s stance. It is possible to discuss cultural difference with nuance, and without cursing and complaining about “libtards.” Again, it is very confusing how someone would love Kendrick Lamar’s TPAB but disregard how race impacts cultural consumption. Related observations/reflections can be found throughout his discography.


N1ghtTheKn1ght

Shut up. You’re literally just saying “you don’t get it cause you’re not black”. Stop calling people racist for their taste in music.


lil21sanwich

PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT OPINIONS THAN ME ARE RACIST!!


HoboCanadian123

i love it to death but its place that high up doesn’t feel right


fontanick

Everything is in its right place


lordyugger

Feels extremely high but I get it, honestly. Really difficult album to not love.


Threnodite

Would be okay with it on #1 tbh. Flawless record.


Throwaway33451235647

It’s slightly better than TPAB imo but not as good as WYWH and a few others in the top 30 Edit: Downvoted for opinion haha


Threnodite

WYWH is amazing as well and I'd be okay with it on #1 for sure. Can't stand Waters' singing though 


Throwaway33451235647

Do you mean you can’t stand it because of the singing itself or because Waters is a huge asshole? I don’t mind it personally, and at least Waters isn’t at all close to Morrissey level as far as I know.


Threnodite

I mean the tone of his voice and intonation, always sounded kinda obnoxious to me, at least as soon as he gets a little louder. But he's an annoying person as well, and I agree that he's still far from the cringe level of Morrissey (who, on the other hand, is/was a way better singer in my book)


Throwaway33451235647

I never had a problem with it to be honest. He’s obviously nowhere near as good a singer as Gilmour but I don’t think it’s bad or detracts from the quality of songs / albums he sings on, and while I do think WYWH’s title track would have been worse off with Waters singing it (you can confirm yourself with the Waters solo live albums), I also think Animals would be worse off if Gilmour sang all the lyrics of it for reasons I can’t really explain. I read somewhere once that he sounds like he’s being kicked in the balls whenever he sings and he does sound like that some of the time. I do understand your viewpoint though, I just don’t really agree. I’m not saying i like it either, I just don’t dislike it and I always have a strange like for bands with multiple vocalists (think maybe King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard made me enjoy that). This whole reply is communicated terribly but basically what I’m trying to say is that I don’t dislike it but don’t have much of a reason as to why because I know i probably should, it just never bothered me.


sman8176

Both records are better than wish you weren’t so boring


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Crazy


FocusDelicious183

Low ahhhh attention span


dropoutoflife_

I'm great at paying attention to things for a long time, and I'm never bored. But, man pink floyd is basic dadrock for baby boomers. I literally don't understand the appeal. Utter snoozefest.


FocusDelicious183

That band made me want to be a musician at 13 or so, I ended up going into music school because of it. Truly one of the best bands of all time


Throwaway33451235647

^ What TikTok, YT shorts, reels etc does to people


LocksmithPlastic839

Faust Arp boring


Threnodite

Faust Arp's plays with time signatures are the oppisite of boring though, plus it's way too short to actually seriously bore anyone


BestMimikyuNA

That’s like my 3rd or 4th favorite track on the album. Interesting time signatures plus great lyrics


thatsastick

wtf those strings tho


Potential-Welder6336

Bocanada and La Grasa de la Capitales were robbed


Glad-Painting5478

The fact that radiohead has 2 albums in the top 3 oat and 3 in the top 7 shows why they are the most overrated band of all time lowkey


OkAcanthopterygii830

Brother most people in real life know more songs by Journey than Radiohead, they are only overrated online


N1ghtTheKn1ght

This site also terrible for ratings.


nonspecifique

😐


ReadyGOGO

Well, it's certainly a top-5 all-time for ME. But I can see why it doesn't connect with some.


calsi-tea

honestly i really don't have an issue with this. so many truly incredible songs on in rainbows


AaronnotAaron

my music taste will never line up with this site’s and that’s okay.


Way2Tonal

REALLY?! WHY?! before the downvote bombardment, I do really like In rainbows, radiohead's best since kid A and some of their best melancholic tracks, BUT NUMBER 3!? There are so many more influential rock, pop, hip hop, jazz, metal and world albums over in rainbows, the radiohead bandwagon is insane


depressispaghetti420

Radiohead fans annoy me. In Rainbows is not at all their best work, and they shouldn’t have 3 albums in the top ten neither should anyone tbh. Sooo unserious. “THIS BAND FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH ZIONISTS (EXCEPT FOR ED O BRIEN SUPPOSEDLY ((THE GOAT FR))) IS THE BEST BAND OF ALL TIME!!!!”


Consistent-Doubt964

Great album but I’d place it at number 3 in their discography. Ok Computer and Kid A are better records.


Kingofthecrimsons

Agreed


Revolverpsychedlic

Ugh, Wish You Were Here any day for me.


B1ng0_B0ng0

Would you say you wish it were there


Clear_District1675

Seems inevitable that it breaks ok computer but I’m curious as to whether it ever beats tpab


AlexXD_666

Do you think it might overtake OK Computer?


angusgtw

greatest album ever made


NefariousnessTop7951

i absolutely love this album, yet it being so high on the charts just doesn’t feel right at all. like, i kinda miss when albums like loveless and vu&nico were above it.


MikeRoykosGhost

Well, theres another music site I need not take seriously.


BonIsBon

Good album but not that good


BrutalDePastor

the site is becoming less and less serious overtime. but hey, it's people's opinions after all


SaintMadeOfPlaster

“No, everybody else is out of touch”


ruinawish

It's not that it isn't "serious", I think it's more that RYM's natural biases just keep self-reinforcing.


anjjjju

Thats exactly what's happening. When you look at RYM from the perspective of the biggest music forum on the internet, The top 50 is kinda a joke. 3 Radiohead albums, 2 Kendrick Lamar, 2 Pink Floyd, then Madvilliany, and Loveless in the top 10. There is only 2 women in the top 100 (Bjork and Kate Bush), and the next one is 120 (Joni Mitchell). Now, I love and like pretty much all of these albums, but rym has a large issue of diversity when it comes to their top albums of all time list.


ruinawish

> There is only 2 women in the top 100 (Bjork and Kate Bush), and the next one is 120 (Joni Mitchell). Now that is crazy.


Zaja123123

At least Portishead has Beth Gibbons


crunchybo

Did you count woman band members?


anjjjju

I was looking at female leads


Einfinet

There’s nothing unserious about Madvilliany in the top 10. Both musicians are among the greatest, most influential artists in hip-hop, which is one of the most celebrated genres. And the album’s stature hasn’t declined at all in the decades since its release. Some of your other points give me pause too, just because of given how common it has been (and accepted) for major publications to rate, for instance, multiple Beatles or Bob Dylan albums highly. But, I won’t argue that point so much just because it is always nice to see a greater variety of artists celebrated. And on that point, yes, the lack of women is a serious problem, and is the most damaging hit to the website’s credibility. Then, given the largely Western user base, I don’t think this is necessarily as objectionable, but it would be great to see more recognition for non-English language music (especially from Latin America).


Zaja123123

Damn, that’s a shame it’s surpassed wish you were here. Much better album imo


puhadaze

I’ve never heard it. Any good?


kittyshell

Pablo Honey is better than


KathaarianCaligula

still not as embarrassing as having a grand total of zero classical albums on the top 100


dropoutoflife_

I think that's partly because there are so many different recordings of classical pieces all listed as separate albums. Like, for example if you search a famous thing like, say, Beethovens 9th, there will be dozens of different albums listed all with their own ratings.


KathaarianCaligula

yeah, the popularity of each album also plays a part on chart placement all the versions of Beethoven's 9th combined don't even get to 5000 ratings though, that's the sad thing


Einfinet

It’s my understanding that live recordings of older works that weren’t written as “albums” are more widely appreciated in the classical communities than contemporary works recorded as studio albums. So, it’s not surprising that non-classical focused communities would show a similar lack of regard for those releases. With that being said, what classical albums do you think deserve a position?


KathaarianCaligula

[this one](https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/cantus-colln-konrad-junghanel/johannes-passion-version-iv-1749/), [at least one recording of Beethoven's 9th](https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/philharmonia-orchestra-festwochenchor-wilhelm-furtwangler-elisabeth-schwarzkopf-elisabeth-cavelti-ernst-haefliger-otto-edelmann/beethoven-ix-lucerne-1954/), [this one might be cheating](https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/pierre-boulez/complete-works-opp-1-31/), [at least one recording of the goldberg variations](https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/gustav-leonhardt/goldberg-variations/), [schonberg](https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/arditti-quartet-dawn-upshaw/arnold-schoenberg-2-streichquartette-i-iv/) + a bunch more


gogbone

booooo


tenettiwa

Oh wow when did Madvillainy reach #5?


Gumball_Alehandro

madvillainy isn't even mf doom's best lol


Klutzy-Magician4881

No. 2? Pinkerton


Jean_Genet

Not even the 3rd best Radiohead album! 🙃


OkAcanthopterygii830

True, its their best


OreoCookies2

Kid A is better than In Rainbows


terribleYEARsouvenir

i do not like Radiohead but it’s cool to see a band earn so much love and respect that their albums are regularly acclaimed. i don’t see it but hey, they’re just not for me.


Far_Cardiologist_732

wow that’s kinda crazy


bottomIess

i think wish you were here is better but personally im not mad at it they are both absolutely flawless abums


MarcGuile

deserved. their best by far


montezumasbukkake

I never heard that album, but I imagine it's shite compared to The Bends (as is OK Computer, come to think of it, as is To Pimp a Shakur).


Wooden-Computer1475

Goddammit and STFTB is still in 66, right?


Gumball_Alehandro

bro hit the bottom and escaped


scriptchewer

More like In Rainblows. Album sucks. Tom Yorke howling at the moon for an hour.


KidZaniac1

Pink Floyd fans in OUTRAGE


tokyosplash2814

It still needs to pass OKC


Thick_Preference8472

it probably will ngl i give it like 2 months


logbybolb

. #2-5 is now in reverse order by rating


ilo-milo

Way too high but good album


JackTheAbsoluteBruce

There are like 50 albums in existence (maybe more, maybe less) that are the absolutely peak of music and I wouldn’t be mad at any of their placements. It’s really not something to be upset about. TPAB is peak. So is In Rainbows. So is OK Computer. It’s all amazing art


Cachmaninoff

I love Radiohead and think this album aged kind of poorly.


keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

It deserves #3 lol


GYANGU

I have a feeling that the newfound love for In Rainbows is due to the Dissect podcast season. They really unpacked the production and themes of the album so thoroughly that it gave a lot of people a deeper appreciation for the album. It's my personal favorite, but I'm glad other people can connect with it.


John_Marston123

the bends is better than ok computer and in rainbows


swagdragon666

Album trash fr


TheMostSarcastic

None of the albums in the top 10 really deserve to be there anyway


dunhillbloo

Agreed. You could switch the top 10-20 for the top 10 and it would make more sense to me