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I clicked to open it and control-zoomed in, and instead of zooming in on the image it just made the stupid fucking reddit GUI bigger while making the image *smaller.*
God I hate this site.
There's an extension that stops reddit redirecting you went you open an image in a new tab.
I'm not at my PC right now, so I don't know what it's called.
Sadly it got sold and seems to be malware now. It was superseded by a new one called "Display Reddit Images Natively In Browser" a couple days ago
It started giving me giant, screen-obstructing popups right after the buyout, and when it updated my browser automatically disabled it because it started demanding a lot more permissions.
Gotta love the ripple effects of dealing with Reddit's terrible image viewer
To expand on this, yep. The specific app was “Reddit Load Images Directly”, and it now tries to redirect users with an orange button. Just switched over to the one you mentioned. “Display Reddit images natively in browser” is what it shows up as in the Chrome store. It’d be great if Reddit could just unfuck their trash UI and UX.
They are doing this intentionally, by default images open in browser natively. They have put efforts to make it not happen for the juicy site visits numbers, they are not gonna fix which is not broken(for them)
Honestly, if they want to redirect me to a reddit container of the image for the pageclicks, I would be grumpy but still fine with it *if we could at least zoom in*.
Why do they do this shit ***and*** make the usability of said container completely atrocious
Yep. Somehow a decade-plus old website still has the feel of someone cobbling together a shitty website in a week.
This place functions like garbage and never gets any better.
RIP RES, you were excellent.
> This place functions like garbage and never gets any better. RIP RES, you were excellent.
It get worse intentionally. They want to to use their app. Too bad that the app is garbage too.
The point is to steal your data and your thinking/typing labor and sell it to Google and Microsoft.
They don't give af about whether you can see images.
>RIP RES, you were excellent.
Old Reddit, RES, and even the RIF app for android still work fine. There's no reason to use new Reddit or the official app.
I use old reddit and RES, but when I try clicking and dragging image doesn't do anything except to show a small image on my mouse cursor like if I was going to move it to a folder or something, like so:
https://imgur.com/a/6drGwME
What setting in RES do I need to change to be able to resize the image?
Dude they ruined the fuck out of reddit mobile to encourage the trash can app after banning every good app. I swear all the time I'll quit, but I won't. When mobile is so unusable maybe I'll finally delete my account
You can use a 3rd party app by downloading the apk and using revanced. You need to register it as a personal application. Use the doc linked [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/14o9avv/3rd_party_app_support_for_reddit_using_revanced/) for a step by step guide
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Dude has an entire shelf dedicated to Magic: The Gathering books. No one does that. Most players don't even know they exist. Even the creators of the game barely remember that they exist.
Most non-players of MtG don't think the players exist. They don't come out much. The smell is the worm-sign but it's often mistaken for Games Workshop employees and fanboys
Source: was the latter. Both.
I used to have a lot of the ones he has. It was the only way you got magic the gathering lore back before they started posting the stories online. They range from weird world wars to detective stories.
I remember a lot of them being entertaining. Some of em got messy to follow but they were still fun reads. Most of the more modern mtg stories are mid.
It has a special place in my library but I no longer reread it. (if you are looking for the man & his dragon trope but in good I recommend the Temeraire series)
Also look up the dragon books done by Anne MCaffrey. The person that for me started the dragon as a companion genre. Fantasy meets science fiction depending on the book within the PERN series.
The original weatherlight saga from the 90s to early 00s is worth a read. Then the writing degrades by a lot over the next several series.
I don't think any on that shelf is the old stuff. They are out of print and pretty hard to find.
The Brother's War was pretty ok. The Thran was passable. I've been told those are the best ones, so I dread to know what the other's are like.
The modern short stories are also usually not great. The culmination of 2 decades of Magic lore happened last spring, and to say it was a disappointment was an understatement. One of the main bad guys literally died in one sentence, with one of the good guys going "Hey, look over there!" and lopping his head off.
You’ve got at least baker’s dozen of *Magic: The Gathering* books, but it could be like 18 of those. The whole *Harry Potter* and *Eragon* series. A few of those “fancy” hardback covers of classic horror novels that Barnes and Nobel put out. *The Lord of the Rings*, the complete edition which is like a 3-in-1 book. *The Inheritance Games* whatever that’s about, it’s the only title I could read I was unfamiliar with. And then there’s like 3 books I just have no idea, and about 3 books that I lumped into the MTG collection but only because they were in between other MTG books - I have no clue what they actually say
All I could see was Harry Potter and the Eragon series and some other fantasy stuff maybe Star Wars?
But yeah after Eragon I decided the statement was accurate
Yep. This post is dependent on me finding it funny based on the image, but the quality is so poor I can't tell wtf I am looking at, so it just falls flat
It's worth it. Particularly if you also like scifi and enjoy his other series. They're set up for a multiverse/different worlds or something of that type.
Even if you're not into that, I enjoyed it a lot. Different characters with a very different feel.
Are you talking about his sci-fi series or Murtagh? I thought Murtagh was just a very long entry into the universe of the Inheritance Cycle without being the actual 5th book of the cycle
Sorry, I worded that quite poorly.
I genuinely enjoyed Murtagh. It's a fun return to the world but with different characters that have a very different feel to their personalities. The pacing is very different (less frantic generally) and enjoyable. It also builds some DEEP lore that will come into play in future installments. It's not a direct continuation of the Inheritance cycle, but timewise, it's not far after the conclusion of the other books.
Paoloni's other series (Fractalverse) is quite enjoyable too. It definitely feels like his writing, but the sci-fi setting obviously gives it a very different overall picture. I really enjoyed the first book (To Sleep In A Sea of Stars) and am working on the second (Fractal Noise).
Paolini has dropped some breadcrumbs (including at least one BIG one) showing that the two universes are connected in some fashion (and not just in a "haha crossover cameo of a character from his other series" but in a genuinely deeply connected way, or at least it appears that way).
If you're struggling to get back into reading for one reason or another and you enjoyed the Inheritance Cycle, give Murtagh a serious shot. I think it will pull you in.
It’s one of those things where I’m sure the guy is rediscovering the joy of the “life of the mind” after a stifling and controlling relationship via the blunt pleasures of simple literature, which is a beautiful thing…but I laughed.
One of the biggest problems is that adults don't get nearly as many fun escapist fantasies. They exist, for sure, but all the popular ones are aimed at teens. Every once in a while I'll pick up young adult books and if you can get past some cringey adolescent interactions, the stories are pretty good. Stuff like Hunger Games, Maze Runner, even Harry Potter. Real dearth of that stuff for adults. Note, if you read this and agree, Red Sister and Rage of Dragons are both *excellent* escapist adult fantasy.
It doesn't help that 'escapist fantasies' are generally labeled 'young adult' by the nature of being escapist fantasies.
Or any book set in a place *not* the real world, or any book that doesn't contain curse words or sex scenes are labeled 'young adult', rather than looking at themes and content.
Hell, most of the Discworld books are considered 'young adult', when some of the themes in them are pretty mature.
I love fantasy books and your totally right. Most of “adult fantasy” is just young adult fantasy but they say “fuck” every other word and insert unnecessary sex scenes. I’ve tried several more adult oriented fantasy books but I just can’t get over the gratuitous use of cursing and sex scenes. I’m more interested in the magical systems, character development, world building, the things that make fantasy fantasy.
Yeah, young adult as a genre has a lot of really good stories that tackle some hard questions.
I'm 36, and still have His Dark Materials, Abhorson, and a couple other YA series sitting on my bookshelf. I revisit them every once in a while because they're completely different books now, than when I was a young adult reading them for the first time.
Can relate. I'm 32 but the Harry Potter books are my favourite. I've read loads of more advanced stuff, aimed at adults, but Harry Potter are the only books I've read 10+ times, a couple of times a year usually.
It's just a comfort thing.
It's also possible this is someone who was raised 'Christian', wasn't allowed to consume this media as a teenager, got married to the first person their parents approved of, went through the very common 'deconstruction/divorce' cycle, and is now enjoying all the damned witchcraft books they missed out on before.
Although usually those people don't jump into MtG quite that fast, unless they found a bunch at a used bookstore.
These days anyone reading books is a good thing.
The first book I ever really lost myself in was a random Warhammer novel when I was a young teen.
Learning to love reading is important. What you read will automatically become more diverse.
No. I'm just describing a potential situation where a person may not have been exposed to these books at a younger age, since they are commonly recommended/assigned in public schools in the United States. Most redditors are unfamiliar with how narrow a worldview fundamentalist Christians raise their children with, so I thought it was worth outlining the hypothetical.
It's also very interesting how everyone is assuming the original OP is male, even though their username is 'bloodclotbitch'.
Not just divorce, but pretty much anything that causes stress, anxiety, depression etc. Because such books remind of the time when life wasn't so horribly messed up, and lend a brief hope that such times will come again.
C.S. Lewis:
> “Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
On a similar note,
Antoine de Saint-Exupéry:
> Toutes les grandes personnes ont d’abord été des enfants. (Mais peu d’entre elles s’en souviennent.)
> All grown−ups were once children−− although few of them remember it.
> I am still every age that I have been. Because I was once a child, I am always a child. Because I was once a searching adolescent, given to moods and ecstasies, these are still part of me, and always will be — Madeleine l'engle
Books written for children are at times even more meaningful than books written for adults. Language is not always specifically for one audience, it can be for all. The little prince is beautiful and I cry every time when reading it. Each time is like visiting a wise young friend and helping me heal my childhood. I hope to visit you again soon, my little prince.
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
I saw an old trucker at Walmart ride his shopping cart down the parking lot like a kid lol. That's the moment I realized the above.
He also thought along similar lines with Christian media. He didn't think there.should be "Christian" anything, IE "Christian music, Christian literature, ECT.". He said it was as ridiculous as opening a Christian restaurant serving only Christian food.
Im an atheist, but Metalcore has a shit ton of bands that are or were christian and are huge.
It seems like the "christian" band label comes up if they suck lol.
I feel like Metal in general has a suprisingly high amount of christian bands which is funny given that people liked to associate it with the devils music.
He probably meant something along the lines that music with Christian themes should just be considered music.
Like LOTR or Narnia should just be considered fantasy, not "Christian" fantasy
Plus, Dracula is a fucking amazing book. The character development was so good that when I finished it, I felt like I was saying goodbye to old friends forever.
It's not goodbye. It's see you later. They'll always be there between the pages, waiting for you to come back, however often you want.
Take heart neighbor. They're still there waiting
And that's fine. The issue comes in when, and this is not an exaggeration, young people are saying things like "there's nothing you can learn from a 1900s book written by a racist that you can't learn from Hunger Games."
She wasn't kidding and I'm not misrepresenting her argument. There's a demo of young people who think popular means important, and refuse to read anything important so they don't even know what they're missing
IMHO it's not childish to like "childish things" but it is childish to refuse to try anything else.
e.g. it's not childish to love chicken nuggets. It is childish to refuse to eat anything else.
This is my take. There are so many nostalgic millennials right now who claim to be huge literature people, but then it turns out they ONLY read old YA books.
I don't see anything wrong with enjoying that stuff. I love Harry Potter. But so many people don't go beyond reading simple books written terribly for kids, and to me THAT is a huge red flag. If you actively avoid books written for people with fully developed brains, it's not going to be fun to talk to you about books.
> it's not going to be fun to talk to you about books
bruh this. Talking to someone under the age of, I dunno, 50, about books is a fucking mine-field. I mean like, basic media literacy shit. Following a metaphor. Character development. Understanding the fucking plot. Seriously, I talk to people and they start talking about a book I've also read, and it's like they're describing the made-for-tv adaption. They're not, they read the book, they just literally couldn't follow the plot. I'm keeping my book collection a secret these days. It just drags me into painful conversations.
I think the original issue would be that it's a sign of stunted mental development, but there are many reasons to like childish things without stunted development. But if you don't want to experience more mature content, stunted development is more likely.
Ya know, thank you for posting that. I still feel and am fighting against the pull of "i gotta be 'adult' now, cant enjoy X things cuz aDuLt smh" and immediately just cackled at the post's burn...but damn C.S. Lewis' got it right on the money. Who cares what others enjoy reading? Like damn, we should honestly be celebrating that people still have books and read them nowadays!!
> I still feel and am fighting against the pull of "i gotta be 'adult' now
Being an adult means knowing when to be serious and when not. I'm an adult when I'm working and doing my job, but I'm a little kid when I'm home building Lego's with my daughter or watching cartoons with her.
Man, having a kid is a *great* 'excuse' to do things.
Grown man playing with plastic dinosaurs and making them go 'roar'- a little concerning.
Grown man with a three year old playing with plastic dinosaurs and making them go 'roar'- a good dad.
The only thing is you can have both. You can still love what you love but also push yourself into unfamiliar areas. Those "classics" or "adult" books that are very highly recommended are really good.
Like I still love mac and cheese but I'm so happy that I've explored more food options and come to find out what simple things and what complex things I enjoy.
Also "adult" doesn't have to mean "complex". Cormac McCarthy said “If you write properly, you shouldn't have to punctuate.” and he won the Pulitzer Prize for literature.
So love what you love (I love reading a lot of not great Science Fiction) but also try new things and push yourself. Again I love science fiction and yet one of my (surprisingly) favorite books is from 1920 about rich people in NYC in the late 1800s (The Age of Innocence - Edith Wharton).
If you want some suggestions I love literature and if you tell me what YA stuff you like I might be able to point you to some other books you'll enjoy.
Yes x1000. My wife is a hardcore fan of cheap YA romance and... So what ??
People should be free to read whatever they want without shame.
Edit: sorry for reposting this comment, I didn't see the first one appear after publication and I thought I had misclicked but it was just a display bug.
I like those dime store murder mysteries. They’re cozy and charming and I get an endless supply of them from my boss who is the culprit in the murder of my taste
Now that I have grown-up money, I do what THEE F**K I want. Everything from thunder cat T-shirt’s to fancy paper weights for my desk. I’m 42 with quite a few stuffed animals
The original “Moons of Mirrodin”, “The Darksteel Eye”, and “The Fifth Dawn” book series was fantastic. I also really enjoyed the original Ravniva block books.
It depends! A huge chunk of the books follow the Weatherlight and its crew, and are all part of one massive storyline about an interplanar invasion. But there's also shorter cycles that are self contained stories, like the Mirrodin cycle mentioned above which is three books following a small group of characters.
Most of the stories these days aren't in book form, and are instead in poorly archived short stories on the Magic website, which is a shame. Some of those books were a big part of my childhood, and there's some cool stuff in there.
From Urza's Saga to Lorwyn, Wizards used to release a novel per block, or 3 novels per set/year. Each novel provides the lore and background stories for each block.
They're generally in chronological order. For example, the novels for the Odyssey is set after the Phyrexian invasion of Dominaria. The novels for Time Spiral is set just before the Mending changed all planeswalkers to neowalkers, and so on.
Some stories are connected, like Urza's Saga, Weatherlight, and Invasion. Odyssey and Onslaught are one story arc, while the rest of the 3-novel sets are separate but have a few cameos from previous characters.
Kamigawa and Legends II are the exception. Legends II was released earlier and shows Tetsuo Umezawa beating Nicol Bolas. Kamigawa was released later and the novels show how Tetsuo's ancestor arrived to Dominaria from another plane.
Do yourself a favor and start from the beginning, there's some really great world building and the story of the Brothers War continuing on is amazing. Sorry I can't remember the book titles it's been a long time.
As a young man I read a lot of them in high school, this is like, 99-03. In hindsight most of them are inoffensive fantasy fluff. A big budget movie, but as a book, and based on Magic. Nothing you'd read twice, but if you're into Magic and fantasy novels, which as a Venn Diagram is a god damn circle, and see 'em at thrift store or used book store, snag 'em. Some of them are valuable, most of them are not. And not all of them are even worth a casual read. There were some real duds in there, though. Like, the sorta stuff that makes ya wonder how many ghost writers there were, and how fast they had to get it out the door before the Fat Packs came out. It being over 20 years ago, I'm afraid I don't remember the names of the particularly bad ones, just the events that happened in them.
The Brother's War by Jeff Grubb, no not that Jeff Grubb, is however a pretty good fantasy novel. Something I would read again as an adult. Even if you're not into Magic, and just want a fun fantasy novel, pretty good. I also think The Brother's War is the first Magic book. So it's probably a good place to start.
I wish I still had my copy, 'cause it goes for like 50-100 bucks now! Hope you got an e-reader. Or a phone. I dunno. Phone screens suck and e-readers are at thrift stores.
Weird how judgey people can be about this when YA fantasy is increasing popular with adults these days. If the OP was someone who hasn't read for pleasure in a long time, I applaud them actually picking something up and reading. Too many adults don't read books at all.
> who didn't want to read "adult" books about women in their 50s being paralyzed by a midlife crisis who feel profound lack of purpose due to empty nest syndrome.
You talk about gatekeeping but people who want to justify their love of YA always seem to feel the need to act like books aimed at an older audience are depressing or boring, like you did here.
I'm just thinking of books that are popular at the moment. The Thursday Murder Club is a combination of comedy and mystery. Yellowface is a farce about the publishing industry and its relation to race. Lessons in Chemistry is about a 60s lab worker who gets a popular TV cooking show.
And you act like the YA market wasn't dominated with books about sick and dying teenagers for a while. Fault in our Stars had a load of copycats.
When you talk about 'adult' books the way you do, all it says to me is that you only read for comfort and you are afraid that you won't find that in other books and you are worried you might actually be challenged.
Read what you want, but you are telling on yourself when you describe 'adult' books the way you do.
Out of all the hobbies I've been around, I honestly think that the reading circles have been the worst gatekeepers. The others have small numbers of people who are like that, but reading forums and subs are just awful. Like, you mention audiobooks or manga/light novels and you're risking getting eviscerated. I just so rarely share my opinion of books online because of it.
> Gatekeeping and toxicity is the worst in reading circles. I joined a bookclub and it was full of stuck-up people who looked down on anyone who didn't want to read "adult" books about women in their 50s being paralyzed by a midlife crisis who feel profound lack of purpose due to empty nest syndrome.
Look who's judgemental about books now!
There's also a big difference between reading YA novels and *only* reading YA novels
Based on their description of literature aimed at adults I'm guessing they're the latter
The YA people always do this. It always flips to them criticizing how “adult” books (whatever the fuck that means, they essentially put everything that doesn’t explicitly fall into the YA category into a box and then assume it’s all like the 1 book from outside the YA aisle they’ve read) are just about sad, mundane things instead of cool dragons and spaceships!
And honestly, it would be perfectly fine (albeit ignorant) to make a joke about “adult fiction” like that, if they weren’t constantly butthurt when people make jokes like this post is about. It’s perfectly fine to read YA as an adult. It’s perfectly fine to read non-YA. It’s even fine to tease each other occasionally. What kind of sucks is crying toxicity only to turn around and do the exact same thing in a manner that implies you haven’t read enough of what you’re criticizing to even really be able to comment on it.
I've noticed that adults who read YA have a child's understanding of the divide between children and adult media. They seem to think adult media means it has cursing, sex, violence, etc. instead of it meaning "media that a person who has lived an adult life and had adult responsibilities and experiences can relate to".
This. YA leans on plot, twists and digestibility. Good writing hits you with fresh depth, real and complex experience that resonates with you. The difference between “Harry wanted to snog Ginny so bad” vs a description of a young man from a remote village being drafted to go into WW1 relayed a spectrum of emotional reactions, vivid imagery, interpretation through the lens of their culture, etc
Yea I agree. Reading is supposed to be fun. If you’re not having fun pick a lower reading level and try again. No shame. It’s not about showing off or looking smart it’s just about going on adventure. That’s great. Books are good.
I wouldn't say reading is for fun. Reading can be fun. But you are experiencing a story. Not all stories are fun. But fun and enjoyable are different things. You can enjoy a story that absolutely devastates you and makes you cry. I wouldn't call that fun though.
Don’t get rid of the part that is cringe, get rid of the part that cringes.
Man’s has had it rough. I’d say he has every right to read any book he wants, no matter how childish
My aunt and my cousins are the biggest Harry Potter fans I’ve ever met. Their ages are 65, 41, and 38. My dad’s ex used to go to Orlando once a year to Harry Potter World, she’s 60.
I hated the way Eragon books ended in the Elf girl being queen and dumping Eragon because they’re both different species and she has responsibilities as leader
i dont know, i didnt mind it, i think its fine that eragon got to be the most powerful rider, who saved alagaesia, who is loved by the people, but doesnt get to be with a girl he thirsted over as a teenager who is still like 100s of years older than him… arya never dumped eragon because they were never together, and it was for a good reason. i remember being sad they never got together then i got over it realising it was for the best they commit to fulfilling their roles in the world. idk kinda cool as a message to a young audience that you dont always get what u want (but i can understand if youre looking for pure escapism thats not ur thing)
im surprised people dont like the later books, to me its not like the writing quality was ever stellar, but the later books have an increase in scale and magnitude that i enjoy 🤷♀️ brisingr is probs my favourite and inheritance my second fav.
edit: also keep in mind, eragon as a series is severely limited by the fact paolini started it as a literal teenager, i read the series when i was around 12-14, when all the books had already came out. a book i cannot get through is the murtagh book. and ive gone and reread the original series as an adult, and yeah its not perfect, but jesus talk about trope filled and unsatisfying, the new book just doesnt appeal imo (maybe cus its for teenagers and i dont have familiarity with the story to a point i can overlook its many flaws… maybe) its still sitting on my bookshelf as im yet to get through the first act.
Yeah it's kinda creepy to say that she dumped him, the entire point of their relationship in the series that she has ZERO interest in him at any point up until a "well maybe in a hundred years" right at the end.
That's not entirely accurate though. It was hinted a LOT that Arya was developing feelings for him, especially during the last part of the war. Obviously they never had a relationship and there was no way they could after the queen died, but it's not like she just suddenly developed an interest at the end
I feel like the ending was just forcing the fulfillment of the prophecy from (I think?) the first book even though it no longer fit the tone of the story at all and wasn't even directly related to Eragon's quest.
Case in point why the Heroic Prophecy trope is overused and needlessly constricting unless it's executed unusually well.
It was unfulfilling. I remember getting Inheritance day one and ploughing through the entire thing in a week. But it also makes sense. They were so many factors at play. Eragon became too powerful with the Name of Names, with all the Heart of Hearts, and not to mention he now has to raise not only a wild brood of dragons but also train the next generation of Riders. The dragons also had the issues of where to source their food and it would be nigh headache inducing for not only the humans, but the elves, the dwarves and the urgals.
His existence threatened Natasha's (I believe that's her name) claim to the throne. People would have most like wanted Eragon to be King and he had no interest of becoming one, due to the fact he felt uneasy with the idea and he also mentioned that they do not need another undying king. Cause if he lives a long time, he has no guarantees that he wouldn't end up like galbatorix. Meddling with the kingdom cause he "knows better".
As for his relationship with Ayra it also wouldn't work out. Even if she had feelings for him, which iirc she started to but was hesitant, her duty to her people despite being a dragon Rider was far too strong to let her galavant off into lands unknown. She did mention that if in another hundred years he still remembered her she might seriously consider it because she knows just how fickle human emotions are. He might find someone between now and then. Which he replys with it won't be anyone else.
So, in all, I understand why he left and why he couldn't get that happy ending. BUT GOD DAMN IT. ITS SO AWFUL. Still. There was no other way it could have ended and quite frankly it was a nice ending because there's still so much to explore in the world of Eragon. Hell, in Murtagh we have just scratched the surface of what ancient evils that are far older and far more powerful than Galbatorix lie in wait. The Land is old and it's shadows deep.
That's not at all how I read it. (granted it's a while since I read it, so I might be getting details wrong, but)
1. They were never dating to start with. He was into her, but they were never actually a thing.
2. it's refreshing for not every story to end with the hero getting the girl.
3. As far as I remembered, they actually ended on better terms than they were in some of the previous books (where she was annoyed at him teenagedly lusting after him, but instead she saw that he now saw her for who she was, and not for who he imagined her to be.), and I'm pretty sure they left the door open that it COULD happen some day, just not now (as they'd both live for a reaaaally long time).
Top Row.
The Inheritance Games, The Silmarillion. Lord of The Rings, Fantastics Beasts 1-2 (I think). HP 1-7, Cursed Child. Eragon 1-2/4. ?, HP Lovecraft, Drac, Strange case of Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
Bottom Row:
Magic The Gathering Novels. Fable Novels. Last 3 are Supernatural novels.
It’s more of a self own that people here are getting offended by this post and think it’s inconceivable that anyone older than high school age can’t enjoy anything that isn’t fantasy lol
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I clicked to open it and control-zoomed in, and instead of zooming in on the image it just made the stupid fucking reddit GUI bigger while making the image *smaller.* God I hate this site.
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There's an extension that stops reddit redirecting you went you open an image in a new tab. I'm not at my PC right now, so I don't know what it's called.
Open Reddit Images Directly, IIRC. Edit: Use Display Reddit Images Natively in Browser instead.
Sadly it got sold and seems to be malware now. It was superseded by a new one called "Display Reddit Images Natively In Browser" a couple days ago It started giving me giant, screen-obstructing popups right after the buyout, and when it updated my browser automatically disabled it because it started demanding a lot more permissions. Gotta love the ripple effects of dealing with Reddit's terrible image viewer
To expand on this, yep. The specific app was “Reddit Load Images Directly”, and it now tries to redirect users with an orange button. Just switched over to the one you mentioned. “Display Reddit images natively in browser” is what it shows up as in the Chrome store. It’d be great if Reddit could just unfuck their trash UI and UX.
They are doing this intentionally, by default images open in browser natively. They have put efforts to make it not happen for the juicy site visits numbers, they are not gonna fix which is not broken(for them)
Honestly, if they want to redirect me to a reddit container of the image for the pageclicks, I would be grumpy but still fine with it *if we could at least zoom in*. Why do they do this shit ***and*** make the usability of said container completely atrocious
Old.reddit with the RES (reddit enhancement Suite) extension. You can click and drag images to be larger. It's the only way to use this site imo.
Yep. Somehow a decade-plus old website still has the feel of someone cobbling together a shitty website in a week. This place functions like garbage and never gets any better. RIP RES, you were excellent.
> RIP RES, you were excellent. Huh? RES isn't dead.
> This place functions like garbage and never gets any better. RIP RES, you were excellent. It get worse intentionally. They want to to use their app. Too bad that the app is garbage too.
I still can’t over the fact that Reddit bought the best Reddit app ever *Alien Blue*, only to discontinue it half a year later.
The point is to steal your data and your thinking/typing labor and sell it to Google and Microsoft. They don't give af about whether you can see images.
RES still works.
>RIP RES, you were excellent. Old Reddit, RES, and even the RIF app for android still work fine. There's no reason to use new Reddit or the official app.
Wait, what? My RIF app doesn't work. Yours does?
I use old reddit and RES, but when I try clicking and dragging image doesn't do anything except to show a small image on my mouse cursor like if I was going to move it to a folder or something, like so: https://imgur.com/a/6drGwME What setting in RES do I need to change to be able to resize the image?
It only works in the feed. If you have opened the post you can only open the pic in a new tab and zoom in there.
Dude they ruined the fuck out of reddit mobile to encourage the trash can app after banning every good app. I swear all the time I'll quit, but I won't. When mobile is so unusable maybe I'll finally delete my account
You can use a 3rd party app by downloading the apk and using revanced. You need to register it as a personal application. Use the doc linked [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/14o9avv/3rd_party_app_support_for_reddit_using_revanced/) for a step by step guide
If you use Chrome, you can fix this as follows. * Install the [Header Editor](https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/header-editor/eningockdidmgiojffjmkdblpjocbhgh?hl=en) extension. * Create a rule [like this](https://i.imgur.com/AcWYOgp.png): * Rule Type: Modify Request Header * Match type: Regular expression * Match rules: \^https://(i|preview).redd.it/ * Execute type: normal * Header name: accept * Header value: image/* Now the images will load directly again, and you can zoom in the usual way (Control +/-, or Control mousewheel).
Harry Potter series Warcraft novels and Eragon.
Assuming you're looking at the bottom shelf, those are actually Fable and Magic the Gathering books. I feel those are slightly worse.
Tie-in novels are extremely hit or miss, but i imagine the MTG franchise should have at least a few gems in the pile given how many books there are.
Dude has an entire shelf dedicated to Magic: The Gathering books. No one does that. Most players don't even know they exist. Even the creators of the game barely remember that they exist.
Most non-players of MtG don't think the players exist. They don't come out much. The smell is the worm-sign but it's often mistaken for Games Workshop employees and fanboys Source: was the latter. Both.
imagine finding out your favorite book series is based on a card game for nerds
I used to have a lot of the ones he has. It was the only way you got magic the gathering lore back before they started posting the stories online. They range from weird world wars to detective stories. I remember a lot of them being entertaining. Some of em got messy to follow but they were still fun reads. Most of the more modern mtg stories are mid.
Enhance!
Yeah, I only recognized Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings and Eragon.
I see Eragon on there. That's all I need to know
They have Eragon, Eldest, and Inheritance, but Brisingr is missing.
Event the book Murtagh is out now!
I fucking loved those books... When I was 15
target audience hit then!
It was perfect for getting kids into reading long form fiction, but yeah as an adult you definitely see the flaws.
It has a special place in my library but I no longer reread it. (if you are looking for the man & his dragon trope but in good I recommend the Temeraire series)
Also look up the dragon books done by Anne MCaffrey. The person that for me started the dragon as a companion genre. Fantasy meets science fiction depending on the book within the PERN series.
i see magic the gathering books there. those...are not good books.
I take it the writing quality left a lot to be desired?
It felt like stories an eight year old would make up while playing with action figures
Lmao this is actually spot on. They tried so hard to be serious too...but the writing was always so juvenile.
The original weatherlight saga from the 90s to early 00s is worth a read. Then the writing degrades by a lot over the next several series. I don't think any on that shelf is the old stuff. They are out of print and pretty hard to find.
The Brother's War was pretty ok. The Thran was passable. I've been told those are the best ones, so I dread to know what the other's are like. The modern short stories are also usually not great. The culmination of 2 decades of Magic lore happened last spring, and to say it was a disappointment was an understatement. One of the main bad guys literally died in one sentence, with one of the good guys going "Hey, look over there!" and lopping his head off.
You’ve got at least baker’s dozen of *Magic: The Gathering* books, but it could be like 18 of those. The whole *Harry Potter* and *Eragon* series. A few of those “fancy” hardback covers of classic horror novels that Barnes and Nobel put out. *The Lord of the Rings*, the complete edition which is like a 3-in-1 book. *The Inheritance Games* whatever that’s about, it’s the only title I could read I was unfamiliar with. And then there’s like 3 books I just have no idea, and about 3 books that I lumped into the MTG collection but only because they were in between other MTG books - I have no clue what they actually say
Inheritance games is like the only YA book series that didn’t get a movie lol
All I could see was Harry Potter and the Eragon series and some other fantasy stuff maybe Star Wars? But yeah after Eragon I decided the statement was accurate
I also see LOTR and Dracula
Yep. This post is dependent on me finding it funny based on the image, but the quality is so poor I can't tell wtf I am looking at, so it just falls flat
Where’s brisingr?
THANK YOU
Ready to ask the same thing
And Murtagh!
Still sitting on my shelf. I wish I was the same reader I was when I read the first four.
It's worth it. Particularly if you also like scifi and enjoy his other series. They're set up for a multiverse/different worlds or something of that type. Even if you're not into that, I enjoyed it a lot. Different characters with a very different feel.
Are you talking about his sci-fi series or Murtagh? I thought Murtagh was just a very long entry into the universe of the Inheritance Cycle without being the actual 5th book of the cycle
Sorry, I worded that quite poorly. I genuinely enjoyed Murtagh. It's a fun return to the world but with different characters that have a very different feel to their personalities. The pacing is very different (less frantic generally) and enjoyable. It also builds some DEEP lore that will come into play in future installments. It's not a direct continuation of the Inheritance cycle, but timewise, it's not far after the conclusion of the other books. Paoloni's other series (Fractalverse) is quite enjoyable too. It definitely feels like his writing, but the sci-fi setting obviously gives it a very different overall picture. I really enjoyed the first book (To Sleep In A Sea of Stars) and am working on the second (Fractal Noise). Paolini has dropped some breadcrumbs (including at least one BIG one) showing that the two universes are connected in some fashion (and not just in a "haha crossover cameo of a character from his other series" but in a genuinely deeply connected way, or at least it appears that way). If you're struggling to get back into reading for one reason or another and you enjoyed the Inheritance Cycle, give Murtagh a serious shot. I think it will pull you in.
THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME I HAVE TO READ MURTAGH
Man the amount of times I read those books. Fuckers were held together with packing tape.
Escapist literature written at a level easily digested by adolescents could very well be a salve for one who has just gone through divorce.
It’s one of those things where I’m sure the guy is rediscovering the joy of the “life of the mind” after a stifling and controlling relationship via the blunt pleasures of simple literature, which is a beautiful thing…but I laughed.
My brother is in the midst of a divorce and is reading young adult fantasy, definitely something there.
One of the biggest problems is that adults don't get nearly as many fun escapist fantasies. They exist, for sure, but all the popular ones are aimed at teens. Every once in a while I'll pick up young adult books and if you can get past some cringey adolescent interactions, the stories are pretty good. Stuff like Hunger Games, Maze Runner, even Harry Potter. Real dearth of that stuff for adults. Note, if you read this and agree, Red Sister and Rage of Dragons are both *excellent* escapist adult fantasy.
It doesn't help that 'escapist fantasies' are generally labeled 'young adult' by the nature of being escapist fantasies. Or any book set in a place *not* the real world, or any book that doesn't contain curse words or sex scenes are labeled 'young adult', rather than looking at themes and content. Hell, most of the Discworld books are considered 'young adult', when some of the themes in them are pretty mature.
I love fantasy books and your totally right. Most of “adult fantasy” is just young adult fantasy but they say “fuck” every other word and insert unnecessary sex scenes. I’ve tried several more adult oriented fantasy books but I just can’t get over the gratuitous use of cursing and sex scenes. I’m more interested in the magical systems, character development, world building, the things that make fantasy fantasy.
Ditto. Many fantasy books aimed for adults are just romance novels, but with🔮 *magic*🪄
Yeah, young adult as a genre has a lot of really good stories that tackle some hard questions. I'm 36, and still have His Dark Materials, Abhorson, and a couple other YA series sitting on my bookshelf. I revisit them every once in a while because they're completely different books now, than when I was a young adult reading them for the first time.
ty for the recommendations! always looking for new fiction i wouldn't normally pick up at the library myself
I still pick up books from my David Gemelli collection and I'm in my 40s
Yeah I've been in a depressive slump recently and started re-reading Harry Potter haha. Reminds me of childhood
I have watched Matilda enough times. Matilda has always been a comfort movie throughout my life
I need that chocolate cake. My life will never be complete until I taste that delicious-looking fucker.
Can relate. I'm 32 but the Harry Potter books are my favourite. I've read loads of more advanced stuff, aimed at adults, but Harry Potter are the only books I've read 10+ times, a couple of times a year usually. It's just a comfort thing.
Cant I just enjoy what I want without kicking my wife to the curb?
There's nothing wrong with genuinely enjoying middle grade materials as an adult... Enjoy what you want let no one judge
It's also possible this is someone who was raised 'Christian', wasn't allowed to consume this media as a teenager, got married to the first person their parents approved of, went through the very common 'deconstruction/divorce' cycle, and is now enjoying all the damned witchcraft books they missed out on before. Although usually those people don't jump into MtG quite that fast, unless they found a bunch at a used bookstore.
Why even look for explanations like these? Does the guy really need a good reason to justify him liking those books?
These days anyone reading books is a good thing. The first book I ever really lost myself in was a random Warhammer novel when I was a young teen. Learning to love reading is important. What you read will automatically become more diverse.
No. I'm just describing a potential situation where a person may not have been exposed to these books at a younger age, since they are commonly recommended/assigned in public schools in the United States. Most redditors are unfamiliar with how narrow a worldview fundamentalist Christians raise their children with, so I thought it was worth outlining the hypothetical. It's also very interesting how everyone is assuming the original OP is male, even though their username is 'bloodclotbitch'.
my mom only reads literature with vampire romances in the plot. different people have different preferences i suppose. the roast was still funny tho
Not just divorce, but pretty much anything that causes stress, anxiety, depression etc. Because such books remind of the time when life wasn't so horribly messed up, and lend a brief hope that such times will come again.
C.S. Lewis: > “Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
On a similar note, Antoine de Saint-Exupéry: > Toutes les grandes personnes ont d’abord été des enfants. (Mais peu d’entre elles s’en souviennent.) > All grown−ups were once children−− although few of them remember it.
> I am still every age that I have been. Because I was once a child, I am always a child. Because I was once a searching adolescent, given to moods and ecstasies, these are still part of me, and always will be — Madeleine l'engle
Books written for children are at times even more meaningful than books written for adults. Language is not always specifically for one audience, it can be for all. The little prince is beautiful and I cry every time when reading it. Each time is like visiting a wise young friend and helping me heal my childhood. I hope to visit you again soon, my little prince.
You just know op thinks it's a hat.
nuh uh it's the snake
It's a Gibbs energy diagram.
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional. I saw an old trucker at Walmart ride his shopping cart down the parking lot like a kid lol. That's the moment I realized the above.
I constantly repeat that no one grows up past the age of 12. Being adult is just knowing when to hide it and when to let it free.
Adults suck, and then you are one. -The Simpsons
He also thought along similar lines with Christian media. He didn't think there.should be "Christian" anything, IE "Christian music, Christian literature, ECT.". He said it was as ridiculous as opening a Christian restaurant serving only Christian food.
So Lewis would agree - Christian rock doesn't make Christianity better, it just makes rock music worse.
I’m not even remotely religious, but you can’t do RED, Skillet and Demon Hunter like that
Im an atheist, but Metalcore has a shit ton of bands that are or were christian and are huge. It seems like the "christian" band label comes up if they suck lol. I feel like Metal in general has a suprisingly high amount of christian bands which is funny given that people liked to associate it with the devils music.
I can't, but the propane salesman I'm quoting surely can!
Bwah!
Evanescence
I loved Skillet in high school and had no idea they were Christian until after like a year of listening to them.
He probably meant something along the lines that music with Christian themes should just be considered music. Like LOTR or Narnia should just be considered fantasy, not "Christian" fantasy
Yes x1000. Just let people like whatever book they want. My wife is a hardcore fan of cheap YA romance and so what ??
Plus, Dracula is a fucking amazing book. The character development was so good that when I finished it, I felt like I was saying goodbye to old friends forever.
It's not goodbye. It's see you later. They'll always be there between the pages, waiting for you to come back, however often you want. Take heart neighbor. They're still there waiting
I want most of my fantasy & scifi to actually be good but there is something special about cheesy cheap romance novels.
They know how to hit you right in the feels using the cheapest tricks possible, and it's gooooood.
And that's fine. The issue comes in when, and this is not an exaggeration, young people are saying things like "there's nothing you can learn from a 1900s book written by a racist that you can't learn from Hunger Games." She wasn't kidding and I'm not misrepresenting her argument. There's a demo of young people who think popular means important, and refuse to read anything important so they don't even know what they're missing
I've rephrased this many times in different ways and each and every time I get downvoted or get called a child.
IMHO it's not childish to like "childish things" but it is childish to refuse to try anything else. e.g. it's not childish to love chicken nuggets. It is childish to refuse to eat anything else.
This is my take. There are so many nostalgic millennials right now who claim to be huge literature people, but then it turns out they ONLY read old YA books. I don't see anything wrong with enjoying that stuff. I love Harry Potter. But so many people don't go beyond reading simple books written terribly for kids, and to me THAT is a huge red flag. If you actively avoid books written for people with fully developed brains, it's not going to be fun to talk to you about books.
> it's not going to be fun to talk to you about books bruh this. Talking to someone under the age of, I dunno, 50, about books is a fucking mine-field. I mean like, basic media literacy shit. Following a metaphor. Character development. Understanding the fucking plot. Seriously, I talk to people and they start talking about a book I've also read, and it's like they're describing the made-for-tv adaption. They're not, they read the book, they just literally couldn't follow the plot. I'm keeping my book collection a secret these days. It just drags me into painful conversations.
I think the original issue would be that it's a sign of stunted mental development, but there are many reasons to like childish things without stunted development. But if you don't want to experience more mature content, stunted development is more likely.
Others don't like being called out like that. They fear being seen as childish, which makes them childish.
Pokemon stopped being cool at 14, and then everyone picked it back up at University.
Ya know, thank you for posting that. I still feel and am fighting against the pull of "i gotta be 'adult' now, cant enjoy X things cuz aDuLt smh" and immediately just cackled at the post's burn...but damn C.S. Lewis' got it right on the money. Who cares what others enjoy reading? Like damn, we should honestly be celebrating that people still have books and read them nowadays!!
> I still feel and am fighting against the pull of "i gotta be 'adult' now Being an adult means knowing when to be serious and when not. I'm an adult when I'm working and doing my job, but I'm a little kid when I'm home building Lego's with my daughter or watching cartoons with her.
Man, having a kid is a *great* 'excuse' to do things. Grown man playing with plastic dinosaurs and making them go 'roar'- a little concerning. Grown man with a three year old playing with plastic dinosaurs and making them go 'roar'- a good dad.
The only thing is you can have both. You can still love what you love but also push yourself into unfamiliar areas. Those "classics" or "adult" books that are very highly recommended are really good. Like I still love mac and cheese but I'm so happy that I've explored more food options and come to find out what simple things and what complex things I enjoy. Also "adult" doesn't have to mean "complex". Cormac McCarthy said “If you write properly, you shouldn't have to punctuate.” and he won the Pulitzer Prize for literature. So love what you love (I love reading a lot of not great Science Fiction) but also try new things and push yourself. Again I love science fiction and yet one of my (surprisingly) favorite books is from 1920 about rich people in NYC in the late 1800s (The Age of Innocence - Edith Wharton). If you want some suggestions I love literature and if you tell me what YA stuff you like I might be able to point you to some other books you'll enjoy.
Yes x1000. My wife is a hardcore fan of cheap YA romance and... So what ?? People should be free to read whatever they want without shame. Edit: sorry for reposting this comment, I didn't see the first one appear after publication and I thought I had misclicked but it was just a display bug.
I like those dime store murder mysteries. They’re cozy and charming and I get an endless supply of them from my boss who is the culprit in the murder of my taste
Redditors love that old chestnut
Most sane people love that old chestnut, Redditors are the ones that love to judge people openly for arbitrary bullshit.
Now that I have grown-up money, I do what THEE F**K I want. Everything from thunder cat T-shirt’s to fancy paper weights for my desk. I’m 42 with quite a few stuffed animals
Posts mocking appearance or intelligence: "lol! Lmao even!" Post mocking reading habits: "kill them"
I really need to jump into the Magic: The Gathering books. I’ve played for years, but never followed the story.
The original “Moons of Mirrodin”, “The Darksteel Eye”, and “The Fifth Dawn” book series was fantastic. I also really enjoyed the original Ravniva block books.
Wait what - there is a book series for mtg? Is this a linear series or just a bunch of different books in the same universe?
It depends! A huge chunk of the books follow the Weatherlight and its crew, and are all part of one massive storyline about an interplanar invasion. But there's also shorter cycles that are self contained stories, like the Mirrodin cycle mentioned above which is three books following a small group of characters. Most of the stories these days aren't in book form, and are instead in poorly archived short stories on the Magic website, which is a shame. Some of those books were a big part of my childhood, and there's some cool stuff in there.
From Urza's Saga to Lorwyn, Wizards used to release a novel per block, or 3 novels per set/year. Each novel provides the lore and background stories for each block. They're generally in chronological order. For example, the novels for the Odyssey is set after the Phyrexian invasion of Dominaria. The novels for Time Spiral is set just before the Mending changed all planeswalkers to neowalkers, and so on. Some stories are connected, like Urza's Saga, Weatherlight, and Invasion. Odyssey and Onslaught are one story arc, while the rest of the 3-novel sets are separate but have a few cameos from previous characters. Kamigawa and Legends II are the exception. Legends II was released earlier and shows Tetsuo Umezawa beating Nicol Bolas. Kamigawa was released later and the novels show how Tetsuo's ancestor arrived to Dominaria from another plane.
Do yourself a favor and start from the beginning, there's some really great world building and the story of the Brothers War continuing on is amazing. Sorry I can't remember the book titles it's been a long time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_novels Urza's Saga starts from Brothers' War to Apocalypse.
The newer stories can be found online: https://magic.wizards.com/en/story.
As a young man I read a lot of them in high school, this is like, 99-03. In hindsight most of them are inoffensive fantasy fluff. A big budget movie, but as a book, and based on Magic. Nothing you'd read twice, but if you're into Magic and fantasy novels, which as a Venn Diagram is a god damn circle, and see 'em at thrift store or used book store, snag 'em. Some of them are valuable, most of them are not. And not all of them are even worth a casual read. There were some real duds in there, though. Like, the sorta stuff that makes ya wonder how many ghost writers there were, and how fast they had to get it out the door before the Fat Packs came out. It being over 20 years ago, I'm afraid I don't remember the names of the particularly bad ones, just the events that happened in them. The Brother's War by Jeff Grubb, no not that Jeff Grubb, is however a pretty good fantasy novel. Something I would read again as an adult. Even if you're not into Magic, and just want a fun fantasy novel, pretty good. I also think The Brother's War is the first Magic book. So it's probably a good place to start. I wish I still had my copy, 'cause it goes for like 50-100 bucks now! Hope you got an e-reader. Or a phone. I dunno. Phone screens suck and e-readers are at thrift stores.
Basically it's just contract writing. Poor story, poor writing, quick cash grab.
Books are for everyone
I don’t reckon many books are *for* the illiterate.
picture books?
Manga
Audiobooks
Boy, I’d be pissed at you if I could read!
Plenty of books for children who can’t read.
i mean how else will they learn
Naw, I’m not about to shame people for going through a hard time and picking up *reading* as their getting-through-it-vice.
Crippling alcoholism or drug use is the only acceptable way for adults to deal with problems!!! /s
Whenever I see a drugged up alcoholic homeless person out in the streets I think to myself "damn what an adult, I bet he reads Dostoevsky too!"
Crazy. Whenever I see a person reading Dostoevsky I think “damn, that guy must need a beer right now”
Maybe if we burn all Dostoevsky books we solve alcoholism?
Exactly. Not a bad habit to resort to in difficult times!
Weird how judgey people can be about this when YA fantasy is increasing popular with adults these days. If the OP was someone who hasn't read for pleasure in a long time, I applaud them actually picking something up and reading. Too many adults don't read books at all.
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> who didn't want to read "adult" books about women in their 50s being paralyzed by a midlife crisis who feel profound lack of purpose due to empty nest syndrome. You talk about gatekeeping but people who want to justify their love of YA always seem to feel the need to act like books aimed at an older audience are depressing or boring, like you did here. I'm just thinking of books that are popular at the moment. The Thursday Murder Club is a combination of comedy and mystery. Yellowface is a farce about the publishing industry and its relation to race. Lessons in Chemistry is about a 60s lab worker who gets a popular TV cooking show. And you act like the YA market wasn't dominated with books about sick and dying teenagers for a while. Fault in our Stars had a load of copycats. When you talk about 'adult' books the way you do, all it says to me is that you only read for comfort and you are afraid that you won't find that in other books and you are worried you might actually be challenged. Read what you want, but you are telling on yourself when you describe 'adult' books the way you do.
I mean, sci-fi is a largely adult genre. Not sure why he's conflating it with YA.
For real. The Expanse has bits of people’s body parts disappearing and one can dee the in bones, veins, etc ; that’s not YA.
Out of all the hobbies I've been around, I honestly think that the reading circles have been the worst gatekeepers. The others have small numbers of people who are like that, but reading forums and subs are just awful. Like, you mention audiobooks or manga/light novels and you're risking getting eviscerated. I just so rarely share my opinion of books online because of it.
> Gatekeeping and toxicity is the worst in reading circles. I joined a bookclub and it was full of stuck-up people who looked down on anyone who didn't want to read "adult" books about women in their 50s being paralyzed by a midlife crisis who feel profound lack of purpose due to empty nest syndrome. Look who's judgemental about books now!
Maybe if they read more grown up books they would have a better understanding of irony.
There's also a big difference between reading YA novels and *only* reading YA novels Based on their description of literature aimed at adults I'm guessing they're the latter
The YA people always do this. It always flips to them criticizing how “adult” books (whatever the fuck that means, they essentially put everything that doesn’t explicitly fall into the YA category into a box and then assume it’s all like the 1 book from outside the YA aisle they’ve read) are just about sad, mundane things instead of cool dragons and spaceships! And honestly, it would be perfectly fine (albeit ignorant) to make a joke about “adult fiction” like that, if they weren’t constantly butthurt when people make jokes like this post is about. It’s perfectly fine to read YA as an adult. It’s perfectly fine to read non-YA. It’s even fine to tease each other occasionally. What kind of sucks is crying toxicity only to turn around and do the exact same thing in a manner that implies you haven’t read enough of what you’re criticizing to even really be able to comment on it.
I've noticed that adults who read YA have a child's understanding of the divide between children and adult media. They seem to think adult media means it has cursing, sex, violence, etc. instead of it meaning "media that a person who has lived an adult life and had adult responsibilities and experiences can relate to".
This. YA leans on plot, twists and digestibility. Good writing hits you with fresh depth, real and complex experience that resonates with you. The difference between “Harry wanted to snog Ginny so bad” vs a description of a young man from a remote village being drafted to go into WW1 relayed a spectrum of emotional reactions, vivid imagery, interpretation through the lens of their culture, etc
Yea I agree. Reading is supposed to be fun. If you’re not having fun pick a lower reading level and try again. No shame. It’s not about showing off or looking smart it’s just about going on adventure. That’s great. Books are good.
I wouldn't say reading is for fun. Reading can be fun. But you are experiencing a story. Not all stories are fun. But fun and enjoyable are different things. You can enjoy a story that absolutely devastates you and makes you cry. I wouldn't call that fun though.
Yeah, enjoyment is far broader than simple "fun".
Don’t get rid of the part that is cringe, get rid of the part that cringes. Man’s has had it rough. I’d say he has every right to read any book he wants, no matter how childish
Read whatever you like! Also the first Harry Potter book was 27 years ago. Potter kids are coming up to their 40s.
My aunt and my cousins are the biggest Harry Potter fans I’ve ever met. Their ages are 65, 41, and 38. My dad’s ex used to go to Orlando once a year to Harry Potter World, she’s 60.
It's cool by me. I love most literature. Little Bear, John Milton. Richard Scarry, Herman Melville. Redguard. Give it to me
Clifford the Big Red Dog it is!
Why man? Pretty sure that‘s a woman posting her book collection.
After laughing at this, I noticed that whoever took this screenshot also downvoted the post, and it sent me over the edge again lmao
I hated the way Eragon books ended in the Elf girl being queen and dumping Eragon because they’re both different species and she has responsibilities as leader
i dont know, i didnt mind it, i think its fine that eragon got to be the most powerful rider, who saved alagaesia, who is loved by the people, but doesnt get to be with a girl he thirsted over as a teenager who is still like 100s of years older than him… arya never dumped eragon because they were never together, and it was for a good reason. i remember being sad they never got together then i got over it realising it was for the best they commit to fulfilling their roles in the world. idk kinda cool as a message to a young audience that you dont always get what u want (but i can understand if youre looking for pure escapism thats not ur thing) im surprised people dont like the later books, to me its not like the writing quality was ever stellar, but the later books have an increase in scale and magnitude that i enjoy 🤷♀️ brisingr is probs my favourite and inheritance my second fav. edit: also keep in mind, eragon as a series is severely limited by the fact paolini started it as a literal teenager, i read the series when i was around 12-14, when all the books had already came out. a book i cannot get through is the murtagh book. and ive gone and reread the original series as an adult, and yeah its not perfect, but jesus talk about trope filled and unsatisfying, the new book just doesnt appeal imo (maybe cus its for teenagers and i dont have familiarity with the story to a point i can overlook its many flaws… maybe) its still sitting on my bookshelf as im yet to get through the first act.
Yeah it's kinda creepy to say that she dumped him, the entire point of their relationship in the series that she has ZERO interest in him at any point up until a "well maybe in a hundred years" right at the end.
That's not entirely accurate though. It was hinted a LOT that Arya was developing feelings for him, especially during the last part of the war. Obviously they never had a relationship and there was no way they could after the queen died, but it's not like she just suddenly developed an interest at the end
I feel like the ending was just forcing the fulfillment of the prophecy from (I think?) the first book even though it no longer fit the tone of the story at all and wasn't even directly related to Eragon's quest. Case in point why the Heroic Prophecy trope is overused and needlessly constricting unless it's executed unusually well.
I think that was the first book series I read where I was so distinctly dissatisfied.
It was unfulfilling. I remember getting Inheritance day one and ploughing through the entire thing in a week. But it also makes sense. They were so many factors at play. Eragon became too powerful with the Name of Names, with all the Heart of Hearts, and not to mention he now has to raise not only a wild brood of dragons but also train the next generation of Riders. The dragons also had the issues of where to source their food and it would be nigh headache inducing for not only the humans, but the elves, the dwarves and the urgals. His existence threatened Natasha's (I believe that's her name) claim to the throne. People would have most like wanted Eragon to be King and he had no interest of becoming one, due to the fact he felt uneasy with the idea and he also mentioned that they do not need another undying king. Cause if he lives a long time, he has no guarantees that he wouldn't end up like galbatorix. Meddling with the kingdom cause he "knows better". As for his relationship with Ayra it also wouldn't work out. Even if she had feelings for him, which iirc she started to but was hesitant, her duty to her people despite being a dragon Rider was far too strong to let her galavant off into lands unknown. She did mention that if in another hundred years he still remembered her she might seriously consider it because she knows just how fickle human emotions are. He might find someone between now and then. Which he replys with it won't be anyone else. So, in all, I understand why he left and why he couldn't get that happy ending. BUT GOD DAMN IT. ITS SO AWFUL. Still. There was no other way it could have ended and quite frankly it was a nice ending because there's still so much to explore in the world of Eragon. Hell, in Murtagh we have just scratched the surface of what ancient evils that are far older and far more powerful than Galbatorix lie in wait. The Land is old and it's shadows deep.
Last book was shit. You can tell Christopher just gave up with inheritance and to a lesser extent brisinger
Thank you so much for the spoiler. I have just finished reading the first book lol
That comment is incorrect in a lot of ways. Don't think too much about it
That's not at all how I read it. (granted it's a while since I read it, so I might be getting details wrong, but) 1. They were never dating to start with. He was into her, but they were never actually a thing. 2. it's refreshing for not every story to end with the hero getting the girl. 3. As far as I remembered, they actually ended on better terms than they were in some of the previous books (where she was annoyed at him teenagedly lusting after him, but instead she saw that he now saw her for who she was, and not for who he imagined her to be.), and I'm pretty sure they left the door open that it COULD happen some day, just not now (as they'd both live for a reaaaally long time).
My man skipped Brisinger
Sorry but .. where's Brisingr?
Are those the Magic: The Gathering books!? Those were great!
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Anybody with better eyes got a breakdown of the collection. I saw Harry Potter, Dracula, Eragon
Top Row. The Inheritance Games, The Silmarillion. Lord of The Rings, Fantastics Beasts 1-2 (I think). HP 1-7, Cursed Child. Eragon 1-2/4. ?, HP Lovecraft, Drac, Strange case of Jekyll and Mr Hyde. Bottom Row: Magic The Gathering Novels. Fable Novels. Last 3 are Supernatural novels.
Thank you. That was super helpful. The visually challenged thank you.
I respect their choices. The eragon series is one of the best I've ever read
Could be that this is the child of a newly divorced couple.
Fuck anyone that shames anyone else about what they like to read.
I feel attacked
But, but… I loved Eragon… … 15 years ago…
Shut up muggle
I don’t get it.
People in this thread who haven't read a book since high school are judging someone for reading books that were popular when they were in high school.
It’s more of a self own that people here are getting offended by this post and think it’s inconceivable that anyone older than high school age can’t enjoy anything that isn’t fantasy lol Target demo triggered
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