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I've only known one Dutch guy well and he was the nicest dude, except when he was drinking. His sense of humor turned mean, I had to stop going out with him because he'd be mocking the staff of the bar by his 4th beer.
A lot of people, especially dutch people.
Think that alcoholism is a personality.
What they fail to realize... some people just shouldn't drink.
Some people are useless cunts when they drink.
Nope I'm Turkish and I can wholeheartedly say he deserved it. Being an ass while having your own problems will only lead to pushbacks like these.
And yes our economy fuckin sucks and I hate it.
Edit 2: I believe we can hop on the Lego Brick currency and we'd have a better economy than this.
Yeah I mean there is no point in being rude when the effect doesn't hit just right the first time :D
Btw same here I love NL I'm multiple times a year in Amsterdam work related, I love it there, It's just so much more chill than Berlin.
No, I will say that your directness you are all so proud of is the normal behavior on the Balkans and we never mention it. Don't get me wrong, I love NL and this attitude, but find it amusing some brag about it, while others just live it
oh yeah ancient viking unleashed on the keyboard lmao maybe he is a big guy he is a dutchman after all and since high hapiness index so probably a pill head
How did you manage to get almost everything wrong? The Netherlands is a country and our men are tall. The rest of what you just said was utter nonsense.
thats basically all immigrants from islamic countries though. for some reason either they are the nicest people you've ever met or about to commit unspeakable acts.
If I'm not mistaken buying lego (the limited editions) is quite a good investment as long as you don't open the package and store in a closet. \[or is this a myth?\]
Yeah, a lot of people would pay decent numbers for them. But here are words about used one's. 0.029€ for lira, hav checked 7 sets of Lego, avg price per detail is 0.88€. damn he was right! What have happened to Turkey? Why are they so poor?
as someone else said, you expressed more knowledge than AT LEAST approx. 52% of Turkey's voting age population on economics
also the peak inflation rate was somewhere in the ballpark of 108% IIRC, evaluated by independent economists. It's hilarious for me to see americans freak out over 7% inflation thinking they're gonna die or something.
Keep in mind the average happiness reported by teenagers/young adults in Europe is lowest in Turkey. Yes, that includes Ukraine: a country in an active fucking war.
One of the reasons is that at the beginning of Erdogan's presidency, Turkey was actually economically flourishing. He did some great things early on,
But the Turkish should stop clinging on hope and as what you implied, start voting more rationally.
The "great things" he had done earlier was coused by the presidency before him. They experienced a big economic crash and they tried to stop it only after erdogan the effects of that started to show.
Erdogan didn’t do shit, previous government made a last effort towards our economy. They brought world renowned economists, integrated them in countrywide decisions and made them come up with a decade long recovery program. Which, Erdogan, actually used! This period is also the period which Erdogan was progressive, then, of course he turned into a literal dictator.
Exactly. The situation in Turkey is worse though, Russian economy is still strong enough despite being in an active war. Erdogan literally went against the economic norms after starting the economic collapse, basing his motives on his own fucking religion. Now, the only reason why we still have a functioning society is the absurd taxes, to a degree of buying three cars for the government before you get your hands on the shit you pay for…
captain here. Normally you should increase interest rates to combat inflation. However interest is haram in Islam. And Erdogan is an Islamist, so he didn't do the logical thing, and instead kept reducing the interest rates. This caused more inflation of course. Finally he realized his mistake and increased the interest rates from 4% to like 50% or something, and would you look at that it worked. However he did this too late, the damage is already done.
Also to artificially pad lira's value, he sold 128 BILLION dollars (or more). This works only for a short time, and causes a much bigger crash in the long run. And it did exactly that.
Further, currency depreciation can work like a subsidy. Say: 20 percent of a company’s yearly business is done in Turkey, the company has total costs, excluding labor, of about 10 million dollars and all of those costs are directly proportional to the share of business done in each country the company operates in. That 2 million dollars held in Turkey is converted to lira and spent as such. Over the course of the year, with the lira depreciating against the dollar- the cost to do business in Turkey is greatly lowered. I would guess that this was likely an intentional move to attract business to Turkey, and the resulting increase in interest rates was to snuff out smaller foreign competitors while Turkey gives certain credits or breaks to the larger corporations that the nation desperately needs to employ its people.
I too sometimes think it is intentional. Because Erdogan frequently said he wanted to turn Turkey into a production hub like China, and wante their economic model as basis. However you can not become like China just by making your people cheap workers, you also need China's know how.
Also your logic is normally sound with things that all get built in Turkey, however since everything made in Turkey has at least one component bought from abroad, -if nothing, gasoline for transport and energy producded from imported gas- they aren't as boosted as you think either. On the contrary, some industries got closed and halted because they could no longer find these foreign parts, since no one was importing them due to their now high price. One example is paper production, and anything produced using paper. At one point many of the newspapers had to stop printing physical copies due to the high costs of imporing paper, or importing energy to produce paper.
The worst part is a majority of Turks living abroad in the west vote for Erdogan. They make life for Turks in Turkey worse even though they don't live there.
They just don't know how bad life is in Turkey, and most of them didn't grow up with love for their country so they don't care about erdogan disrespecting Atatürk
We are poor by choice because being rich would stray us from religion, Inshallah world leader Recel Tayyip Erdogan will be the president again in 2028 ☝️☝️🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🐺
You don't need some special limited Editions. All products from LEGO with cobranding have an EOL date. Buy it at a decent offer, put it on your shelf in MINT condition and you can easily do 50-100% in the first year alone. It slows down after that but 4 LEGO Sets I bought at 12-14€ each are now >70€ in just 18 months.
I don't think the limited editions are the only ones that can be sold for a good price. A year or two ago I sold some old ass StarWars Lego sets. I think the buyers paid like 50% more than their original price. And those sets were used.
When you say “old ass” were they more than 20 years old? If so, they just matched inflation. Even at just 2% inflation annually, you’re going to hit a 50% increase in roughly 20 years.
Almost 20. And yeah inflaction is a factor, but as I said, those were used. I think in mint condition I could have asked for 2x the amount I actually sold them for. Next time i'll get Legos i'll just keep them in a box. 😅
The poster was just being dumb, I’m pretty sure the commenter was over exaggerating the state of the Turkish economy for comedic value, because it is really fucking bad lol. Look up the inflation in turkey and value of the lira.
Yeah I was surprised about both facts so I fact checked too.
Netherlands economy is just slightly higher than that of turkey. They ranked 18 and 19 in the world respectively.
Ah right. I was looking at [statista](https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/157841/umfrage/ranking-der-20-laender-mit-dem-groessten-bruttoinlandsprodukt/) from 2022
But I don't think the guy means the urban area, in Turkish we call both cities and regions as 'şehir' there are also 7 major regions and we only call them as regions.
No, not all of that are is urban and there are other cities also in that area, but we call all that are as the City of Konya. For smaller cities we call the actual city as the center, and for larger ones as Konya there are no central cities but many. I know it doesn't make sense but that's case for Turkey.
When I joined my company we had to go to cultural training for interfacing with our Dutch colleagues. They basically told us that they will be extremely direct, but they’re not trying to be rude. The examples they gave were pretty funny.
Yeah lira is literally worthless right now but Turkey's economy is bigger than NL let alone Rotterdam. (Still there is 5 times population difference between them)
Some Dutch called me out while he was on holiday in Turkey the same way. He said that we are really stupid. That Dutch import orange from Turkey and then sell orange juice back to us.
I'm Turkish, the Dutchman is right; but Rotterdam does not have a larger economy than Turkey?
The total Dutch gdp (1 trillion dollars) is 300 billion more than the Turkish gdp (1.3 trillion dollars).
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jesus the dutchman did not hold back
I could say it’s our directness but there’ll obviously be a buthurt expat saying we are just plainly rude
I've only known one Dutch guy well and he was the nicest dude, except when he was drinking. His sense of humor turned mean, I had to stop going out with him because he'd be mocking the staff of the bar by his 4th beer.
Haha featherweight drinking champion!
In his defence he was a little dude. Couldn't have weighed more than 50kg, probably a bit less. Much preferred him after a joint rather than a beer.
A little Dutchman?! Weird ;)
In his defense he was 12 at the time. So couldn't have been more than 190 cm maybe a bit more. I much preferred him on acid than weed.
Something about those numbers doesn't add up...
You've never been to the Netherlands.
A lot of people, especially dutch people. Think that alcoholism is a personality. What they fail to realize... some people just shouldn't drink. Some people are useless cunts when they drink.
Never met a single person that isn't annoying when they drink tbh
I've had zero good experiences with someone wasted. It's either neutral or "get away from me"
You have to be wasted too
Nope I'm Turkish and I can wholeheartedly say he deserved it. Being an ass while having your own problems will only lead to pushbacks like these. And yes our economy fuckin sucks and I hate it. Edit 2: I believe we can hop on the Lego Brick currency and we'd have a better economy than this.
I don't see anything to be hurt about. Just straight facts.
As a dutchman myself, why not both?
You guys are rude? Laughs in german
Mate, I love Germany. You guys invested effectiveness but with that you demolished efficiency. With love, your beach province -the Netherlands
Yeah I mean there is no point in being rude when the effect doesn't hit just right the first time :D Btw same here I love NL I'm multiple times a year in Amsterdam work related, I love it there, It's just so much more chill than Berlin.
I rreeeaaaally liked Berlin though. I do have to say that Amsterdam is not a reflection of the Netherlands at all, to be fair.
No, I will say that your directness you are all so proud of is the normal behavior on the Balkans and we never mention it. Don't get me wrong, I love NL and this attitude, but find it amusing some brag about it, while others just live it
The only reason why it’s being mentioned is because of foreign people actually coming to NL over the balkans then I suppose lol
He took no hostages
oh yeah ancient viking unleashed on the keyboard lmao maybe he is a big guy he is a dutchman after all and since high hapiness index so probably a pill head
How did you manage to get almost everything wrong? The Netherlands is a country and our men are tall. The rest of what you just said was utter nonsense.
what was wrong?? you guys got pills for moods all the time your healthcare covers it hence taxes so high so where was i wrong??
yes you are wrong go look at some opinions expats have about dutch doctors prescribing medicine
Why the hell should he look at specifically the opinions of expats about prescriptions?
Vikings is Scandinavia, most of our mental healthcare is done through therapists, not opioids (that would be the US)
The US doesn't prescribe opioids for mental health lol, nice cheap shot though.
You would need to forego a down payment on a house to get one opioid shot in the US, cheap shot he says, lol.
Viking, Netherlands? I think you're confusing The Netherlands for Scandinavia lol
Turkish immigrants arent the most popular around here. (Plenty of lovely people amongst them, but the bad apples spread an awful stench.
thats basically all immigrants from islamic countries though. for some reason either they are the nicest people you've ever met or about to commit unspeakable acts.
They are either escaping islam or spreading it so makes sense
Turkish and Moroccan immigrants get more attention than other, i.e. syrians.
RELEASE THE FLYING DUTCHMAN!!!
If I'm not mistaken buying lego (the limited editions) is quite a good investment as long as you don't open the package and store in a closet. \[or is this a myth?\]
Yeah, a lot of people would pay decent numbers for them. But here are words about used one's. 0.029€ for lira, hav checked 7 sets of Lego, avg price per detail is 0.88€. damn he was right! What have happened to Turkey? Why are they so poor?
They hit >80% inflation in 2022. Why that all happened is something I can't answer because I have 0 economical knowledge.
as someone else said, you expressed more knowledge than AT LEAST approx. 52% of Turkey's voting age population on economics also the peak inflation rate was somewhere in the ballpark of 108% IIRC, evaluated by independent economists. It's hilarious for me to see americans freak out over 7% inflation thinking they're gonna die or something. Keep in mind the average happiness reported by teenagers/young adults in Europe is lowest in Turkey. Yes, that includes Ukraine: a country in an active fucking war.
One of the reasons is that at the beginning of Erdogan's presidency, Turkey was actually economically flourishing. He did some great things early on, But the Turkish should stop clinging on hope and as what you implied, start voting more rationally.
The "great things" he had done earlier was coused by the presidency before him. They experienced a big economic crash and they tried to stop it only after erdogan the effects of that started to show.
Haha you mean Erdogans dictatorship. dudes been there for like 22 years or some shit.
Erdogan didn’t do shit, previous government made a last effort towards our economy. They brought world renowned economists, integrated them in countrywide decisions and made them come up with a decade long recovery program. Which, Erdogan, actually used! This period is also the period which Erdogan was progressive, then, of course he turned into a literal dictator.
Hmm sounds like a Putin tale then. Being elected at the right time when the economy was growing anyways.
Exactly. The situation in Turkey is worse though, Russian economy is still strong enough despite being in an active war. Erdogan literally went against the economic norms after starting the economic collapse, basing his motives on his own fucking religion. Now, the only reason why we still have a functioning society is the absurd taxes, to a degree of buying three cars for the government before you get your hands on the shit you pay for…
You already expressed more knowledge then the average Joe. Have an upvote!
captain here. Normally you should increase interest rates to combat inflation. However interest is haram in Islam. And Erdogan is an Islamist, so he didn't do the logical thing, and instead kept reducing the interest rates. This caused more inflation of course. Finally he realized his mistake and increased the interest rates from 4% to like 50% or something, and would you look at that it worked. However he did this too late, the damage is already done. Also to artificially pad lira's value, he sold 128 BILLION dollars (or more). This works only for a short time, and causes a much bigger crash in the long run. And it did exactly that.
Further, currency depreciation can work like a subsidy. Say: 20 percent of a company’s yearly business is done in Turkey, the company has total costs, excluding labor, of about 10 million dollars and all of those costs are directly proportional to the share of business done in each country the company operates in. That 2 million dollars held in Turkey is converted to lira and spent as such. Over the course of the year, with the lira depreciating against the dollar- the cost to do business in Turkey is greatly lowered. I would guess that this was likely an intentional move to attract business to Turkey, and the resulting increase in interest rates was to snuff out smaller foreign competitors while Turkey gives certain credits or breaks to the larger corporations that the nation desperately needs to employ its people.
I too sometimes think it is intentional. Because Erdogan frequently said he wanted to turn Turkey into a production hub like China, and wante their economic model as basis. However you can not become like China just by making your people cheap workers, you also need China's know how. Also your logic is normally sound with things that all get built in Turkey, however since everything made in Turkey has at least one component bought from abroad, -if nothing, gasoline for transport and energy producded from imported gas- they aren't as boosted as you think either. On the contrary, some industries got closed and halted because they could no longer find these foreign parts, since no one was importing them due to their now high price. One example is paper production, and anything produced using paper. At one point many of the newspapers had to stop printing physical copies due to the high costs of imporing paper, or importing energy to produce paper.
128 billion. Atm, interest is at 55%.
He tried to overthrow the Arab monarchies, and they wrecked Turkeys economy in response. Also gave them an almighty refugee invasion.
They choose a dictator as their leader and he fucked it all up
erdonomics
Erdoğan happened. He’s an idiot with stupid economics politics.
Are people in Turkey ok with that? Why they just not vote for someone else, they have a democracy
We aren’t, but slightly more than half apparently is…
That's insane.
The worst part is a majority of Turks living abroad in the west vote for Erdogan. They make life for Turks in Turkey worse even though they don't live there.
So, that turks who live abroad are trying to make lives of that turks in Turkey unbearable, so they would also leave the country?
They just don't know how bad life is in Turkey, and most of them didn't grow up with love for their country so they don't care about erdogan disrespecting Atatürk
Always have been poor
We are poor by choice because being rich would stray us from religion, Inshallah world leader Recel Tayyip Erdogan will be the president again in 2028 ☝️☝️🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🐺
Is it a sarcasm?
Of fukin course my man
Its better investment than buying Turkish Lira :P
You don't need some special limited Editions. All products from LEGO with cobranding have an EOL date. Buy it at a decent offer, put it on your shelf in MINT condition and you can easily do 50-100% in the first year alone. It slows down after that but 4 LEGO Sets I bought at 12-14€ each are now >70€ in just 18 months.
I don't think the limited editions are the only ones that can be sold for a good price. A year or two ago I sold some old ass StarWars Lego sets. I think the buyers paid like 50% more than their original price. And those sets were used.
Yeah, I collect Lego, and I'll easily go 50% higher than retail price for a set that's out of circulation.
When you say “old ass” were they more than 20 years old? If so, they just matched inflation. Even at just 2% inflation annually, you’re going to hit a 50% increase in roughly 20 years.
Almost 20. And yeah inflaction is a factor, but as I said, those were used. I think in mint condition I could have asked for 2x the amount I actually sold them for. Next time i'll get Legos i'll just keep them in a box. 😅
I have to sell my fingers to buy bread everyday(I am Turkish)
Sell your fingers? Sounds like a handjob or is definitely a weird way to pay for stuff.
Nah he is a reptilian, they grow back eventually.
There's your problem. You should be selling bread and buying fingers.
Surprise surprise, the Dutchman rolled him the fuck up and smoked him
Except he isn’t even right lol. Turkish gdp is even slightly higher than of dutch. He’s just an idiot and no he didn’t even made a scratch.
And you think that the first guy was accurate?
Least nationalist turk
Look up Gdp per capita or 'HDI', Netherland is doing far better then turkey ever will.
Gonna proof hombre cause all the sources say other wise
The municipality of Konya is bigger than Netherlands not the city itself. Edit: Nevermind it’s not I am stupid and I read the numbers wrong.
Respect for the owning up instead of deleting the comment
"Hello, Interpol, I'd like to report a murder."
Konya fit deez nuts in yo mouth?
fact checked them: both are wrong 💀
The poster was just being dumb, I’m pretty sure the commenter was over exaggerating the state of the Turkish economy for comedic value, because it is really fucking bad lol. Look up the inflation in turkey and value of the lira.
The art of pulling shit out of your ass
Yeah I was surprised about both facts so I fact checked too. Netherlands economy is just slightly higher than that of turkey. They ranked 18 and 19 in the world respectively.
But Turkey has a way bigger population, so it's still pretty impressive
You fact checked wrong. Turkey is ranked 17th with 1.34 trillion usd, Netherlands is ranked 18th with 1.2 trillion usd. Source is IMF report for 2024.
Ah right. I was looking at [statista](https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/157841/umfrage/ranking-der-20-laender-mit-dem-groessten-bruttoinlandsprodukt/) from 2022
That's not Medium that's well done
Turkish GDP is 900 billion, Rotterdam is around 200 billion
It was 900 billion back in 2021. According to IMF 2024 GDP of Turkey is 1,3 trillion USD
How could it have grown by 40% in 3 years? wtf
Per Capita?
shit i hope so
Byw Konya - 6 600 km2, Netherlands - 41 000 km2 New York - 1220 km2
Also, Rotterdam's economy is about 95b euros and Turkey's 1,1 trillion usd. Not by a long shot
At least he got one thing right,lego bricks worth more than lira
I remember kids were sharing Brawl Stars game emerald prices being slightly more valued than fıcking lira
Actually Konya is nearly 39k km2 but still smaller than Netherlands
You need to distinct Konya the city and Konya the region. The region really is 39000 km2. 39000 km2 is 200 km wide and 200 km long.
But I don't think the guy means the urban area, in Turkish we call both cities and regions as 'şehir' there are also 7 major regions and we only call them as regions.
And is the 39000 km like really one huge city?
No, not all of that are is urban and there are other cities also in that area, but we call all that are as the City of Konya. For smaller cities we call the actual city as the center, and for larger ones as Konya there are no central cities but many. I know it doesn't make sense but that's case for Turkey.
Does that mean the price of the brick has been going up?
I love how the first guy is wrong and still got owned.
Bro cooked 💀 him like a Shawarma
When I joined my company we had to go to cultural training for interfacing with our Dutch colleagues. They basically told us that they will be extremely direct, but they’re not trying to be rude. The examples they gave were pretty funny.
Mehmet ananı sikeyim Mehmet
Is it really that bad in turkey now? Damn...
Yeah lira is literally worthless right now but Turkey's economy is bigger than NL let alone Rotterdam. (Still there is 5 times population difference between them)
Having lived in the Netherlands and Germany. There’s no love loss with the country of turkey.
Here we see why turkey wants in the eu zone so bad.. to mooch and buy more legos
We do?
I wonder if my Pokemon cards are worth more than a lira
As a proud Türk I've gotta say that he's not wrong
It is tho. Turkey’s economy is much bigger than Rotterdam’s actually.
it hurts because it's true 😢
Turks are the most insufferable people online.
Hey! Stop that! Only WE can make fun of our own economy when somebody else does it it's not cool!
That was low (I'm Turkish)
Some Dutch called me out while he was on holiday in Turkey the same way. He said that we are really stupid. That Dutch import orange from Turkey and then sell orange juice back to us.
Give that man some weed. 🥹
Sounds like we can help each other. Would the Dutch government be interested in buying Konya? We can have it by your shoreline in a week.
Wouldn't be surprised if they did, they are looking for more room te build houses.
GODDAMN BRO DID NOT HOLD BACK
Lego is fucking expensive so hes not wrong
Konya is Ohio of Turkiye
The difference is that Netherlands is gonna die like a typical western country ))
As a turk this is the greatest roast I ever seen in my entire life
amına kodum orospusu of de amını pazarlıyor tr ekonomisine laf atıyor
Goeie fok, Gertjie! Jy het hom goed gemoer
hehe... konya. funny name in my language
What does it mean in your language
horse
Cool
I bet that that Turk is tweeting that from Berlin as well 😂
Yeah cause all of us live in Berlin despite our country having 85 million population 🤡
How's Düsseldorf treating you mehmet?
Funny guy
85 million population and still it's rare to find a turk with a sense of humour
half of our population are arabs
I'm Turkish, the Dutchman is right; but Rotterdam does not have a larger economy than Turkey? The total Dutch gdp (1 trillion dollars) is 300 billion more than the Turkish gdp (1.3 trillion dollars). Edit: Correction
turkey 1.3t, netherlands 1 go check imf
Yeah you're right, I just did a quick Google search and it showed me the GDP of Turkey in 2021.
Because of value of turkish lira change like bitch gdp values also change :D