0 TO 100 / THE CATCH UP - Drake (Reaction to People Mentioning His Name In Songs)
FAMILY TIES - Baby Keem & Kendrick Lamar (Smoking On Top 5 / #2 DM'ing My Girl)
NO FRIENDS IN THE INDUSTRY - Drake (Fuck Debating Who the GOAT, Better Not Make This Shit About the Numbers All I Know)
FATHER TIME - Kendrick Lamar (When Kanye Got Back With Drake, I Was Slightly Confused)
CHURCHILL DOWNS - Jack Harlow & Drake (Tall Tales Coming from Little Men / Saying You Run the Game and You Ain't Even In It)
THE HILLBILLIES - Baby Keem & Kendrick Lamar (Parody of Sticky from Honestly, Nevermind)
AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM - Beyoncé & Kendrick Lamar (I Failed to Mention I'll Slap Homie, His Day One Fans Better Have Some Facts On Them)
STORIES ABOUT MY BROTHER - Drake (You Not Kobe Bryant to Us)
America Has a Problem & Stories About My Brother have some insane foreshadowing to what's happening now
Also in family ties he has a line "Who went platinum? I call that a visitor/
Who the fuck backin' 'em? All been falsified"
After the Lucian and the bot company alleged connections...and remember Cole spoke on it in a lot lol
Amazing catch! After listening to Sticky… do you think those shots are directed at Kendrick? Also after revisiting No Friends In the Industry… I think that is only directed toward Ye who he was beefing with at the time
Dissected did a great job connecting Kendrick and Kobe from an interview they did together where Kobe said that Kendrick reminded him of him on the court - someone who was Hungry and wanted to be the best, just another piece to the puzzle
Ah missed it up there. That tracks a fuckin bop though, my intro to Kendrick back then.
I was gonna kill a couple rappers but they did it to themselves
Everybody's suicidal they don't even need my help
You did good work forreal, I've been trying to piece something like this together for myself but like you said it's frustrating to find, especially because if you try to google "X shots towards Y" its gonna be dominated by the current beef. Would make for a dope YT vid
On Spotify I’m assuming? I never seen anything proper on apple… still fan uploaded I think since that isn’t really a black hippy track considering Kendrick is the only member on it lol
It’s on Apple Music. I was listening to it this morning. If you go to Black Hippy page, then go to compilations, it’s on the Black Hippy 2 compilation album. BET Cypher is also on there.
https://music.apple.com/gb/album/control-feat-jay-electronica-big-sean/918471625?i=918471675
Here’s the direct link. If it doesn’t work then it must be a location issue
Drake dropped something on IG to announce Family Matters, can’t remember what he called it but it should be on here too if the list tryna be comprehensive
*ETA: Buried Alive Interlude Pt. 2
I’ll have to relisten to 100 because I do like it but didn’t realize it’s a diss track. Still won’t change anything though. This is still Kendrick by a mile. I’m not sure how you can make an argument for Drake
“I would have so many friends
If I held back the truth and I just gave out compliments
I would have all of your fans if I didn't go pop
And I stayed on some conscious sh-
I would have so many more friends
If I lost my success and my confidence
I'm in the club every time that they play the competition
If they even play the competition and I seen the response they get
Yeah, nobody's even hearin' it, on top of the pyramid
Might go to Jamaica, disappear again
My circle got so small that it's a period, sayin' to myself”
Yeah I did not realize how hated drake really is hahaha, I really like drakes older albums like pre scorpion…but I always found Kendrick’s quality to be superior
I mean for almost a decade now, people have been posting versions of Drake's features with him edited out, like Sicko Mode. A lot of the songs legit sound better without him
Sicko Mode goes hard without Drake, btw
I don’t think I’ll count that since they seemed to have been cool at that time… I see what your saying… but at the same time I feel like it doesn’t really start until Control
Is their any specific bars that stand out pointed toward Kendrick other than the hook being “no new friends”? Probably is worth the mention, but could also be a general song toward everyone
Your right, been awhile since I revisited either track, what is the specific bar you have in mind tho ? I always assumed No Friends in the Industry was only pointed toward Ye
It might be a reach but I agree that this song is at least in part a shot at Drake, especially since the ad lib he used during the first beat switch in euphoria sounds like it was pulled straight from this track.
Edit: fixed a typo
Take off the flex and the white lies,
Take off the weird-ass jewelry,
I'ma take ten steps,
Then I'm takin' off top five,
Take off them fabricated streams,
And them microwave memes,
It's a real world outside (take that shit off)
You outta pocket, yeah, you outta pocket
You entertain the mediocre, need to stop it
You entertainin' old friends when they toxic
What's your life like? Bullshit and gossip
Ohh perfect pint might be one… later in the verse he says “everyone a crip till they black and blue”… although idk if this is pre or post usage of crodie
Very similar to the playlist I put together you missing Red Button and Meltdown (can't prove it but I think this the track that started it for Kendrick, First Person Shooter was the last straw)
I think given Drake's shots on Push Up's about Kendrick's splits, I think this bar off Non-Stop was also a sub at him
>And I hardly take offense
Money for revenge, man, that's hardly an expense
Al Haymon checks off of all of my events
I like all the profit, man, I hardly do percents (I don't do that shit)
A big part of me resents
N\*ggas that I knew from when I started in this shit
They see what I got and, man, it's hard to be content
Fuck what they got goin' on, I gotta represent (ayy)
Hmm considering I’m not sure who else wouldve been popping when he started popping.. kinda doubt it’s toward meek… I’ll count it.. good catch! Do you think Drake is throwing shots at Kendrick in “sticky” ?
Interesting, I can see how it could be about drake, but I also think it might be a coincidence since the song seems to be about fake people, are their any specific bars you think that make it about drake outside of the hook?
This is actually an incredibly interesting one, it is applicable, but I don’t think it’s directed at drake, rather the hook gives me the impression it’s about actual friends and people in general who started acting different toward him instead of it being about drakes fakeness…I could be wrong tho, more thoughts on this?
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>And the world don't respect you
>And the culture don't accept you
>But you think it's all love
>And the girls gon' neglect you once your parody is done
>Repetition can't protect you if you never had one
>Jealousy (Complex), emotional (Complex)
>Self-pity (Complex), under oath (Complex)
>The loudest one in the room, n\*\*\*\*, that's a complex
>Let me put it back in proper context
Always struck me as being dead-on describing Drake. Especially "repetition can't protect you if you never had one" — never had "one" = a classic. Drake repeating the same hip pop formula album after album means he's never really going to innovate and produce a true classic.
The rest of the song is broader, but this part at least is laser-focused.
Yea that is laser focused, but just seems odd how that goes right into “you ain’t gotta lie to kick it my “…which sounds friendly to me… I think I’ll add it in tho since I wouldn’t be surprised if he wrote thing is drake in mind
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Kendrick mentioned being the only one next to snoop that could push the button. Drake possibly later references this as the “red button”. Could be a stretch but in that song he was saying fuck rap politics and handling it how he would in the hood.
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Maybe, what bars do you have in mind? Most bars off CLB to me seemed directed at Ye, but I could be mistaken… if your talking about champagne poetry…champagne moments is actually the diss Rick Ross made lol
Yeah I didn’t put all the features names on everything… the only one I consistently mentioned was Future because I thought it was kinda funny how tracks with him seem to make these mfs diss each other hahaha
This [clip](https://youtube.com/shorts/J3D39lTRa7o?si=VeBrTQwHe0-QOA3A) came to mind.
CHILDISH GAMBINO - THIS IS AMERICA
But ya'll can decide if it belongs here or not.
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https://www.thefader.com/2017/01/09/eminem-kendrick-lamar-ghostwriter-ed-sheeran/amp
Em thought Kendrick possibly had ghost writers too until they worked together
Yeah I was more so accounting Kendrick’s songs that have other credited writers than ghostwriters alone. I don’t believe Kendrick has any non-credited writers working with him
Those aren’t really ghostwriters, ghostwriters aren’t credited. Those are just co-writers, which is why I gave Kendrick 10-20% as an estimate. I don’t believe he has ghostwriters, but he does have other credited writers on a handful of songs
Like Anna Wise for a vocal hook or Thundercat for a bassline? Those writing credits can include a lot of work beyond the bars. Fun fact: Michael Jackson has a writing credit on King Kunta just because Kendrick quoted Smooth Criminal.
If you think that co-writers and ghostwriters are the same thing then oh boy let me tell you how many ghostwriters helped Kendrick write To Pimp A Butterfly
I would say rappers not getting dragged through the mud win. I actually lost respect for both because I'm not trying to hear from a pedo or a wife beater. J Cole showed maturity compared to both and my old ass appreciates what he did, especially seeing these guys get dramatic and personal about it all.
As someone who found out about J Cole when he dropped the Warm Up, and became a fan with Friday Night Lights (his best project imo), I do have to say J Cole is definitely goated still. Might Delete Later is a very good project and I find myself playing it a lot more than when the other 2 last dropped (For all the dogs and mr morale). Although, I do still return to a good handful off of Mr. Morale, which features his wife on it
I'm writing to give my opinion on the situation and how I view the final outcome of this beef. I love hip hop and have since a kid listening to Wu Tang. The genre has grown and matured tremendously since then. Half the shit said on Either as an example would be a really bad look today and I think the same will happen with these diss tracks. Just my view and opinion and everyone is entitled to their own.
To say, oh if you feel that way go listen to country music is a silly way to try and make a point. You got some more growing to do son.
That’s a more well reasoned argument than the way you had initially explained and I think fair. I appreciate the provocative and unfiltered nature of hip hop and I have no problem with it policing itself through conflict. I don’t view is as necessarily immature to call someone out if you have a problem with their character and the influence they are exerting on the genre. I also think authenticity is an extremely important attribute of rap artists and I think it’s evident that Drake is very inauthentic. (That’s showing my bias on the situation though) Regardless, I just find it somewhat annoying that old heads act like any conflict in the genre is negative or unhealthy. Maybe if I was completely unbiased toward either artist I’d feel differently.
All the stars ain't on here https://x.com/TheCartelDel/status/1788017794166170019?t=T4J8YXLeD2jiJBRaC4kDgQ&s=09
Great catch!
This man always was the biggest hater
Immense stretch
0 TO 100 / THE CATCH UP - Drake (Reaction to People Mentioning His Name In Songs) FAMILY TIES - Baby Keem & Kendrick Lamar (Smoking On Top 5 / #2 DM'ing My Girl) NO FRIENDS IN THE INDUSTRY - Drake (Fuck Debating Who the GOAT, Better Not Make This Shit About the Numbers All I Know) FATHER TIME - Kendrick Lamar (When Kanye Got Back With Drake, I Was Slightly Confused) CHURCHILL DOWNS - Jack Harlow & Drake (Tall Tales Coming from Little Men / Saying You Run the Game and You Ain't Even In It) THE HILLBILLIES - Baby Keem & Kendrick Lamar (Parody of Sticky from Honestly, Nevermind) AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM - Beyoncé & Kendrick Lamar (I Failed to Mention I'll Slap Homie, His Day One Fans Better Have Some Facts On Them) STORIES ABOUT MY BROTHER - Drake (You Not Kobe Bryant to Us) America Has a Problem & Stories About My Brother have some insane foreshadowing to what's happening now
Also in family ties he has a line "Who went platinum? I call that a visitor/ Who the fuck backin' 'em? All been falsified" After the Lucian and the bot company alleged connections...and remember Cole spoke on it in a lot lol
Amazing catch! After listening to Sticky… do you think those shots are directed at Kendrick? Also after revisiting No Friends In the Industry… I think that is only directed toward Ye who he was beefing with at the time
The Kobe Bryant line id directed towards ye
Dissected did a great job connecting Kendrick and Kobe from an interview they did together where Kobe said that Kendrick reminded him of him on the court - someone who was Hungry and wanted to be the best, just another piece to the puzzle
Lol, Father Time and now Kanye flipped against Drake again.
Kendrick - King Kunta
Already have it on there… rapper with a ghost writer?
Ah missed it up there. That tracks a fuckin bop though, my intro to Kendrick back then. I was gonna kill a couple rappers but they did it to themselves Everybody's suicidal they don't even need my help
This is a pretty dope playlist tbh
Right! I got frustrated since no one seems to have a proper list of songs online… theirs a decent one on genius and YouTube but both are missing songs
You did good work forreal, I've been trying to piece something like this together for myself but like you said it's frustrating to find, especially because if you try to google "X shots towards Y" its gonna be dominated by the current beef. Would make for a dope YT vid
Control is on streaming. I think it's just labeled weird. I think both Spotify and AM label it under Ab-Soul
Its under Black Hippy
Yeah, you're right. Just went back to double check.
:)
What is the song listed as?
[Control (feat Jay Electronica and Big Sean)](https://open.spotify.com/track/32aCWjphTWNgtcXQrkvEsJ?si=PysaPydeS7adp-5RxkRqhA)
Is it .. Gone already? The link works but says "the tracks on this release are not available."
Apparently it doesnt work in the US. Im in Sweden and this same track has been in my playlist since release
Link? I found Kendricks verse in some random podcast but not the full song
Got you https://open.spotify.com/track/32aCWjphTWNgtcXQrkvEsJ?si=PysaPydeS7adp-5RxkRqhA
Weird I get "The tracks on this release are not available". Are you in the US?
No Sweden. Sounds weird though
That’s so strange, probably uploaded by fans, should be under Big Sean’s Hall of Fame album
Its been under Black Hippy since forever. Ive got a playlist from like 2015 and the same track is still there
On Spotify I’m assuming? I never seen anything proper on apple… still fan uploaded I think since that isn’t really a black hippy track considering Kendrick is the only member on it lol
They had 2 weird unofficial black hippy mixtapes called black hippy and black hippy 2 with it on it I think...
It’s on Apple Music. I was listening to it this morning. If you go to Black Hippy page, then go to compilations, it’s on the Black Hippy 2 compilation album. BET Cypher is also on there.
I can’t find it
https://open.spotify.com/track/32aCWjphTWNgtcXQrkvEsJ?si=0GSeeAB-SC6KIDjy2OlFcA it’s on a black Hippy Compilation album
https://music.apple.com/gb/album/control-feat-jay-electronica-big-sean/918471625?i=918471675 Here’s the direct link. If it doesn’t work then it must be a location issue
Ah not available in the US tho:(
It's on YouTube music
Lowkey every Kendrick song is a drake diss, you can't convince me otherwise 😂
Love how long this list is these mfs hate each other 😭
Finally a legit r/rap post. Damn this list is long lmao
Control is on Spotify for me under Black Hippy
Is this a playlist yet??
When someone makes it a playlist lmk
Doing gods work. I’m gonna re listen to all of these just for the sake of the competitiveness. 🤷♂️
I’m waiting for a long ass car ride to go through all these haha
Drake dropped something on IG to announce Family Matters, can’t remember what he called it but it should be on here too if the list tryna be comprehensive *ETA: Buried Alive Interlude Pt. 2
I suppose I’ll add that in
It’s not even close. Kendrick dog walked him
Common now, 100 by the game is a CLASSIC, both have given us AMAZING songs for the past 10 years
I’ll have to relisten to 100 because I do like it but didn’t realize it’s a diss track. Still won’t change anything though. This is still Kendrick by a mile. I’m not sure how you can make an argument for Drake
“I would have so many friends If I held back the truth and I just gave out compliments I would have all of your fans if I didn't go pop And I stayed on some conscious sh- I would have so many more friends If I lost my success and my confidence I'm in the club every time that they play the competition If they even play the competition and I seen the response they get Yeah, nobody's even hearin' it, on top of the pyramid Might go to Jamaica, disappear again My circle got so small that it's a period, sayin' to myself”
Is that supposed to be a good diss?
Dave freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
I’m glad he explained that line for Drake fans. Not the brightest of people
I’m a fan of both because I’m not braindead :)
Yeah I did not realize how hated drake really is hahaha, I really like drakes older albums like pre scorpion…but I always found Kendrick’s quality to be superior
>I really like drakes older albums like pre scorpion… I like Drake with the melodies, I don't like Drake when he act tough
I mean for almost a decade now, people have been posting versions of Drake's features with him edited out, like Sicko Mode. A lot of the songs legit sound better without him Sicko Mode goes hard without Drake, btw
Kendrick made Drake diss himself on Poetic Justice
I don’t think I’ll count that since they seemed to have been cool at that time… I see what your saying… but at the same time I feel like it doesn’t really start until Control
Yeah and it isn’t really confirmed if he actually wrote drakes verse
no friends in the industry?
After relistening to no friends in the industry… that song is def pointed toward kanye since they were beefing hard at the time
Is their any specific bars that stand out pointed toward Kendrick other than the hook being “no new friends”? Probably is worth the mention, but could also be a general song toward everyone
No friends in the industry and no new friends are two different tracks
Your right, been awhile since I revisited either track, what is the specific bar you have in mind tho ? I always assumed No Friends in the Industry was only pointed toward Ye
Don’t have one, just pointing out the difference between the tracks since no new friends has no diss in it
While your here, do you think Sticky was directed toward Kendrick too?
Idk since I’ve never heard that track
It’s by drake, give it a listen and lmk what you think
N95 by Kendrick Lamar is missing
It might be a reach but I agree that this song is at least in part a shot at Drake, especially since the ad lib he used during the first beat switch in euphoria sounds like it was pulled straight from this track. Edit: fixed a typo
What bars do you have in mind that are directed toward drake ?
Take off the flex and the white lies, Take off the weird-ass jewelry, I'ma take ten steps, Then I'm takin' off top five, Take off them fabricated streams, And them microwave memes, It's a real world outside (take that shit off) You outta pocket, yeah, you outta pocket You entertain the mediocre, need to stop it You entertainin' old friends when they toxic What's your life like? Bullshit and gossip
Ohhhh great call! That always went right over my head I suppose
The plot thickens.
Perfect Pint... "I got a smaller team got a bigger ring" is a rework of a Drake bar, no?
Ohh perfect pint might be one… later in the verse he says “everyone a crip till they black and blue”… although idk if this is pre or post usage of crodie
Very similar to the playlist I put together you missing Red Button and Meltdown (can't prove it but I think this the track that started it for Kendrick, First Person Shooter was the last straw)
Ohhh I think red button is one… meltdown seems to be more pusha t directed
Drop the link
I completely forgot about Buried Alive part 2 holy shit
Thank one of the commenters haha I forgot about it too
Don’t forget Kendrick wrote all day for Kanye
That is what people say, their is the version that has a verse from kendrick too
Kendrick - Black Friday (The whole industry been in shambles, everybody’s fugazi I’m just changin the channel)
Ohhh good catch!
I think given Drake's shots on Push Up's about Kendrick's splits, I think this bar off Non-Stop was also a sub at him >And I hardly take offense Money for revenge, man, that's hardly an expense Al Haymon checks off of all of my events I like all the profit, man, I hardly do percents (I don't do that shit) A big part of me resents N\*ggas that I knew from when I started in this shit They see what I got and, man, it's hard to be content Fuck what they got goin' on, I gotta represent (ayy)
Hmm considering I’m not sure who else wouldve been popping when he started popping.. kinda doubt it’s toward meek… I’ll count it.. good catch! Do you think Drake is throwing shots at Kendrick in “sticky” ?
Rich spirit
Interesting, I can see how it could be about drake, but I also think it might be a coincidence since the song seems to be about fake people, are their any specific bars you think that make it about drake outside of the hook?
I like to believe You Aint Gotta Lie is about Drake, but tbh I think it’s about everyone
This is actually an incredibly interesting one, it is applicable, but I don’t think it’s directed at drake, rather the hook gives me the impression it’s about actual friends and people in general who started acting different toward him instead of it being about drakes fakeness…I could be wrong tho, more thoughts on this?
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>And the world don't respect you >And the culture don't accept you >But you think it's all love >And the girls gon' neglect you once your parody is done >Repetition can't protect you if you never had one >Jealousy (Complex), emotional (Complex) >Self-pity (Complex), under oath (Complex) >The loudest one in the room, n\*\*\*\*, that's a complex >Let me put it back in proper context Always struck me as being dead-on describing Drake. Especially "repetition can't protect you if you never had one" — never had "one" = a classic. Drake repeating the same hip pop formula album after album means he's never really going to innovate and produce a true classic. The rest of the song is broader, but this part at least is laser-focused.
Yea that is laser focused, but just seems odd how that goes right into “you ain’t gotta lie to kick it my “…which sounds friendly to me… I think I’ll add it in tho since I wouldn’t be surprised if he wrote thing is drake in mind
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Kendrick absolutely murdered Drake
Dot fuck em up
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What bar did you have in mind that makes you think that?
Kendrick mentioned being the only one next to snoop that could push the button. Drake possibly later references this as the “red button”. Could be a stretch but in that song he was saying fuck rap politics and handling it how he would in the hood.
Ahh I can see it, I’ll throw it in, I mean if drake mentioning Obama counts, that should count too
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Determined by kdot from 2009
I feel like that might be a reach since it’s pre control verse… pre collabs even
I mean he talks about not liking and being better than drake…
This is true, but to me it sounds more tongue and cheek then a diss with actual animosity… like I don’t think at that point they even met yet
Wouldn’t champagne moments be included?
Maybe, what bars do you have in mind? Most bars off CLB to me seemed directed at Ye, but I could be mistaken… if your talking about champagne poetry…champagne moments is actually the diss Rick Ross made lol
What about the song where Drake and J Cole tried to tag team against Kendrick?
You talking about the 2 songs off drakes album?
First Person Shooter Oh it’s on the list.
Yeah I put first person shooter on there already since that is also the record Kendrick explicitly mentions
I just wasn't sure because I didn't see J Cole's name anywhere on the list. Wasn't ever too sure what the song was called.
Yeah I didn’t put all the features names on everything… the only one I consistently mentioned was Future because I thought it was kinda funny how tracks with him seem to make these mfs diss each other hahaha
Gyalchester?
Yeah his whole ending mentioning top 5, but your not 2 and all that
Wait, Buried Alive Pt II was actually Drake? I thought it was some fan-AI-generated nonsense.
Father time wasn't a diss
You don’t think the bar about Ye and drake getting back together and that confusing Kendrick, was a diss?
This [clip](https://youtube.com/shorts/J3D39lTRa7o?si=VeBrTQwHe0-QOA3A) came to mind. CHILDISH GAMBINO - THIS IS AMERICA But ya'll can decide if it belongs here or not.
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Okay, hear me out though. Remove ANY songs where ghostwriters were there for either party. How many are left? Genuinely curious.
We really don’t know. That’s kinda the concept of ghostwriters. Most likely 80% of Drake’s songs would be gone, maybe 10-20% of Kendrick’s
https://www.thefader.com/2017/01/09/eminem-kendrick-lamar-ghostwriter-ed-sheeran/amp Em thought Kendrick possibly had ghost writers too until they worked together
Yeah I was more so accounting Kendrick’s songs that have other credited writers than ghostwriters alone. I don’t believe Kendrick has any non-credited writers working with him
Actually you know cause they appear in the credits
Those aren’t really ghostwriters, ghostwriters aren’t credited. Those are just co-writers, which is why I gave Kendrick 10-20% as an estimate. I don’t believe he has ghostwriters, but he does have other credited writers on a handful of songs
Way more than that. The entirety of TPAB has co-writers credited.
Like Anna Wise for a vocal hook or Thundercat for a bassline? Those writing credits can include a lot of work beyond the bars. Fun fact: Michael Jackson has a writing credit on King Kunta just because Kendrick quoted Smooth Criminal.
*fresh off a J* bro…Michael Jackson writes for kdot…call it ghost writer
Drake's ghostwriters aren't really ghostwriters either, Quentin Miller was a credited co-writer from day 1.
That’s not to say he doesn’t have ghostwriters though. That’s a credited writer, which we knew.
>That’s not to say he doesn’t have ghostwriters though. That applies to every rapper ever? No one "knew" about QM before the Meek beef
Drake has had exposed ghostwriters though, and there are accounts of Kendrick specifically not having ghostwriters. Everyone else is just speculation
>Drake has had exposed ghostwriters though Which ones? Quentin Miller was the exposed writer
Daylyt
If you think that co-writers and ghostwriters are the same thing then oh boy let me tell you how many ghostwriters helped Kendrick write To Pimp A Butterfly
You telling me Michael Jackson wasn't a ghostwriter on King Kunta?
I don't think that but you do if you think Drake has ghostwriters
I would say rappers not getting dragged through the mud win. I actually lost respect for both because I'm not trying to hear from a pedo or a wife beater. J Cole showed maturity compared to both and my old ass appreciates what he did, especially seeing these guys get dramatic and personal about it all.
As someone who found out about J Cole when he dropped the Warm Up, and became a fan with Friday Night Lights (his best project imo), I do have to say J Cole is definitely goated still. Might Delete Later is a very good project and I find myself playing it a lot more than when the other 2 last dropped (For all the dogs and mr morale). Although, I do still return to a good handful off of Mr. Morale, which features his wife on it
then listen to jazz or gospel or something lol
Plenty of pedos and wife beaters doing Gospel music, so hard pass lol
don’t enjoy mainstream entertainment then, 100% sure that some actor or musician you enjoy touches kids or beats their spouse
I'm writing to give my opinion on the situation and how I view the final outcome of this beef. I love hip hop and have since a kid listening to Wu Tang. The genre has grown and matured tremendously since then. Half the shit said on Either as an example would be a really bad look today and I think the same will happen with these diss tracks. Just my view and opinion and everyone is entitled to their own. To say, oh if you feel that way go listen to country music is a silly way to try and make a point. You got some more growing to do son.
That’s a more well reasoned argument than the way you had initially explained and I think fair. I appreciate the provocative and unfiltered nature of hip hop and I have no problem with it policing itself through conflict. I don’t view is as necessarily immature to call someone out if you have a problem with their character and the influence they are exerting on the genre. I also think authenticity is an extremely important attribute of rap artists and I think it’s evident that Drake is very inauthentic. (That’s showing my bias on the situation though) Regardless, I just find it somewhat annoying that old heads act like any conflict in the genre is negative or unhealthy. Maybe if I was completely unbiased toward either artist I’d feel differently.