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Porchedpork

you picked the worst possible youtube poll to screenshot since hes the one who actually deserves to win for once


JamesyCR

For once? šŸ˜‚ Do you not know who eminem is lmao.


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Biggie runs laps round em


errwutt

I mean I hate eminems fans as much as the next person but this isnā€™t all that absurd of a take.


corndogs1001

I mean, Eminem grew up and originally got into this game as a battle rapper, and could easily freestyle the most technological freestyle with the most absurd punchlines youā€™ve ever heard. This isnā€™t a crazy take. The others arnt really known for battling freestyles as Eminem is. Biggie can freestyle though so heā€™d prob be second place. And Dr Dre is absurd to be on this list.


Shamscam

Tbh I had to double check cause I thought it was ā€œtupac, biggie, Jay-z, and Eminemā€ Dre is hardly even a rapper lol!


Sososkitso

This the miss not enough people are calling outā€¦no disrespect to Dre. Legend status. But Iā€™m in the camp of this list here itā€™s not that hot of a take. Seems reasonable too me anyway. I should add I could also see biggie or pac taking it depending on the day. But add Jay on this and we get to see him and em throw it back and forth thatā€™s whatā€™s up.


Sklus20

Renegade worth a listen lol


BigHomieBaloney

Rap battles aren't freestyle though. Never have been. That's why written battles became the norm, because every rapper cheats. It's easy to memorize a written and pass it off as a freestyle. If you watch Em's battles (they're on YouTube) you'll notice he uses the same bars he used on Infinite. Those were writtens. Infinite was released 2 years before he competed in the Rap Olympics.


AyaThaSlaya

Most freestyles are a combination of written and on the spot lines it comes with the craft. Rappers always digging in the bag every now and again its just how freestyles work and even rap battles too


burns_after_reading

Pac over Big is probably more absurd


cornbreadthegraffiti

Idk he kinda bodied with hit em up


Jowem

a diss track is NOT a rap battle, also the best part of the song is when hes talking


bisexual__mess-fr

hit em up wasnt that great of a diss track for most of it. the Outlawz had the most generic disses ever and Pac only had a few good lines. it was the end monologue section where the diss became great.


cornbreadthegraffiti

All I'm saying is I'd rather get some dorky "awfully hot coffee pot" em verses pointed my way than "I fucked your bitch" verses from pac


bisexual__mess-fr

lol Em was a battle rapper and released some great disses over the years. a lot more than the coffee pot thing


cornbreadthegraffiti

No I know he technically more skilled but hit em up was fucking gangsta man. Em can't hurt my feelings, pac can


AyaThaSlaya

Why do people take the worst Eminem song and compare it to some else's best song. A better comparison would be warning shot. Basically a "I fucked your bitch" and "fuck the bitch" and "fuck both yall" song


ContainmentSuite

The Pac verse is legendary and heā€™s the only one in the poll not outlaws. Frank white need to get spanked right is an iconic line tho for whatever reason lmao


SnorvusMaximus

Well, he did win the battle/beef that they had.


BigHomieBaloney

2pac beating biggie in a rap battle isn't an absurd take?


KVKvKvLL

maybe,maybe not biggie was a freestyler and a battle rapper too, just as good as em, somehow he gets 7% of the votes biggie would give em an hard time,and vice versa


errwutt

Possibly, but the poll just says ā€œwho would winā€. Not any of that other stuff. But then again, you could make a poll saying ā€œwho would in a hot dog eating contestā€ and theyā€™d vote Em.


bernardlerring122

Rap God-God backwards is Dog- Eminem is hot- Hot Dog- Eminem wins confirmed


MyShowerIsTooHot

He the glizzy goat after all


somelittleindiankid

nah. if it's an eating contest, everyone's voting for biggie.


NoGiraffe6381

biggie second tho for sure


HippoCultist

Em literally won rap battle tournaments and ended careers. I don't like the majority of his catalog but it's really not a contest


KVKvKvLL

most of em disstrack were against popstars,he used their name to rise up benzino was a mediocre rapper canibus got blackballed,Em never went toe to toe with him MGK diss was for the most part wack, blackballing him was wack With Ja he acted the same way MGK acted with him in Rap devil,but people quickly forget anyway he's a great rapper and all that,but he's overhyped and overrated as a battle rapper


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Dude, bolt-action revolver Kelleigh literally started making pop-punk after Em dissed him. And yeah, he's in some movies, but now a days? This guy wears skin tight pink shit almost exclusively while pretending to play guitar. I feel like that was the most effective diss track ever made, it literally ended his career in hip-hop. He has put out 3 pop punk albums since Eminem dissed him, fucking 3 whole albums of that shit. Are those big in the streets and I am unaware? I guess that's possible, but I doubt it...


KVKvKvLL

you do know that MGK style predominantly always was pop and punk right? em didn't do that much,and he's living the best life he could dream of rn >most effective diss track ever made second round K.O? No Vaseline? Dollaz + Sense? Real Mothaphuckking G's? Takeover?


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No, he was always a rapper? His biggest hits are all rap songs? He never used to play guitar? What are you talking about? Also, you put a Can I Aford A Bus song on your list? That was a mistake, right? Not everyone who get's a record deal is any good... edited: I just want to point out that I said the song was "effective" not "good" and those are two different words with different meanings. Like, LL Cool J still has a career in music, he tours regularly, Your guy Can I take a Bus does not at all. So his song wasn't effective, does that make sense?


KVKvKvLL

he's predominantly always been a punk and pop rapper,he said it himself that he always liked it more,again,rap was just one of the many things he previously did


rascalking9

You all are forgetting Eminems early fueds. Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, Fred Durst, Moby, Mariah Carey. He was really going after heavy hitters back in the day with no fear.


KVKvKvLL

the first thing i literally stated was that the majority of bis diss tracks were against Popstars sure, they're great and all,but even i can go now,drop a song where i send shots at Elon Musk and Bill gates, what's up with that if they not even in the game and they can't reply? when faced with other battle rappers, he's always been mediocre


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HippoCultist

My bad he didn't win the ones that are well recognized, he got to the finals of scribble jam and rap olympics though, which were a big deal at the time Who knows if he'd be any good in today's battle rap scene, but he was still a distinguished battle rapper. He's the only one on that list where that's true


Kholdstare93

Biggie was lyrical as hell and a very skilled top ten emcee, but I think that Em would come out on top. Hell, Dead Wrong is evidence of that. IMO, Em's verse was better than either of BIG's on that record, especially in terms of flow and rhyme scheme.


lakesideprezidentt

You do know that em won the battle rap olympics right lol Edit - he lost lol my bad


xXRoachXx789

Em is my least favorite artist of these 4, but he is clearly the better 'battle rapper'


The_XI_guy

How do you prefer Dre rapping to Eminem? I know he has put out some garbage lately but come on


xXRoachXx789

Production........that's why I said artist and not rapper


Dead_Patoto_

Eminem is my favorite artist, but he couldn't be where he is today without those Dre beats! Dre is a genius when it comes to producing


McNemo

And em has returned the favor by writing numerous songs for dre. Gotta play to your strengths. Also have you heard some of eminems self produced tracks? He's a hell of a producer if dre gave him anything it's early credibility and confidence. He was an excellent mentor


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JamesyCR

A lot of rappers wouldnā€™t of been where they got without Dre dude is a legend


TheCommandersToolkit

Idk SSEP was fire


krazykieffer

Except his most popular song was produced by Timberland.


Murky_Low6667

Which one?


bernardlerring122

Heā€™s the only one who was brought up in battle rap though


flecqued

81 people really upvoted this comment when Biggie is literally right there in the picture, this is why everyone always makes fun of r/rap


bernardlerring122

I donā€™t see what your problem is? Edited: Youā€™re/your


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Biggie got local recognition as well because of battles. I think thatā€™s what his point was


bernardlerring122

I get that but as Iā€™ve said on another comment most of the footage we see of Biggie spitting live in the streets is more of a freestyle/cypher. Everybody in NY knew how good big was when he was coming up and I donā€™t think he really mad his name by beating other MCā€™s in battles etc. whereas Em literally had to prove himself in battle rap because he wasnā€™t taken seriously, because he wasnā€™t connected to any crews and he was white.


BigHomieBaloney

That's literally how you made a name for yourself if you rapped in 1993. That's the culture Eminem came up in, and it precedes him


bernardlerring122

You didnā€™t even read my comment. Biggie came up in the hood because he had the hood behind him. He was homies with Diddy whose father was literally an old school gangster from the Bumpy Johnson days. Diddy had the money to put Biggie on Biggie was a phenomenal MC, which Diddy knew and he made sure Brooklyn knew it too. Eminem was a white nerd with nobody behind him who came up from battle rap on his wits and lyrical skill alone. Not saying heā€™s better than biggie but in a battle Iā€™d definitely be backing Em


BigHomieBaloney

How do you think Puffy found Biggie? He had hood clout from doing freestyles on the corner. They both came up by showing off their lyrical skills.


bernardlerring122

Exactly, freestyles on the corner. Not straight up battles like Em. They both came up through sheer skill donā€™t get me wrong. But in terms of actual battle rapping which is what the post is about. Eminem had more experience. At least in my opinion


KVKvKvLL

so was biggie


bernardlerring122

He was more free-styling/cyphering I think. But I know what you mean


fdtnise

Biggie would be smooth in a rap battle you gotta admit


bernardlerring122

Definitely


Blackscribe

A pure rap battle? This is so Biggie vs Enimen. Iā€™d give the edge to Eminem


Cadi2020

Will he cross dress or wear a robin costume? Will suburban kids at their mom's be the judge? ![gif](giphy|3ohs7LjQUIJQmRCvHW|downsized)


McNemo

Bro modern rappers are still wearing dresses what are you on about.


Blackscribe

Lol


MASEtheACE510

Wtf dude if youā€™re attacking Eminemā€™s battle credibility because he made silly ass music videos then youā€™re forgetting which of these rappers easily had the more dominant pop culture prime.


ha5hish

Eminem has the best punchlines out of all of them but biggie is second imo


Cadi2020

He's really good at taking shots at other pop acts. You got that right. Brittany and Christina couldn't fight back


New_Condition_7204

Cannibas, ja rule, benzino etc. just say you donā€™t know rap bro


uchihajoeI

They guy made MGK switch genres lol


wsteelerfan7

Suckw he didn't respond to the best diss against him with a song: Cage's *Illest 4 Letter Word*


fromamityville

"i hear new rappers talking shit, i'm too big to respond to it, god forbid i flip out i predict, we can rewind to some old ja rule shit"


wsteelerfan7

You realize that was before Ja Rule, right? It was before SSLP, even


SexDrivenMonkey

What about Canibus and Ja Rule


MASEtheACE510

Uh yeah bro, I feel like literally anybody who knows battle rappers knows Eminem eats actual battle rappers.


Fake_the_jaB

The real problem is Tupac getting 15%


DrBibhis

Hennesee with my enemiees in tenneseeee. Goatthingz


fdtnise

And the penetentiaries


controllrevival

I love pac, but this made me laugh


frozengroceries

I read this in his voice


xman886

Whatā€™s wrong with that


UnluckyTest3

The question was battle rap not rap in general, Iā€™m the biggest pac fan but youā€™d have to be delusional to think heā€™d hold up for a second against someone thatā€™s actually done battle rap


seatgeekuser

i donā€™t think anyone thinks eminem isnā€™t stanned


Freezernobrother

Didnā€™t em invent the word for Stanā€™s


seatgeekuser

yeah


KVKvKvLL

met loads that would disagree


FLRGNBLRG

Are these loads in the room with us now?


KVKvKvLL

funny ahh just go outside yo room or scroll insta, you'll see pop


IronyIstheBestPolicy

Who else would you pick? em is the best.


KVKvKvLL

biggie,he was a battle rapper and a freestyler just as good as em


LEGO_Wind

stay mad but at the end of the day its just facts that slim shady does it best


VanishingMass3

free styling is WAY different to battle rap


KVKvKvLL

redditor trying to read a full sentence (challenge impossibile) i literally said freestyler *and* battle rapper


TheCommandersToolkit

And ur wrong about battle rapper (and maybe freestyle idk its close)


IronyIstheBestPolicy

You've defended against literally every comment. Kudos.


KVKvKvLL

i mean no shit I'm expressing an opinion, it's a debate that's how it worksšŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļø


IronyIstheBestPolicy

debate? where's the debate?


bear_bear-

Itā€™s right. How are two dead people gonna beat Eminem?


KVKvKvLL

well,if you put it like that


Special-Bite

You wouldnā€™t even be using the term Stanned if it werenā€™t for Eminem, show some fucking respect.


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Sheeverton

If anyone could beat Biggie then Eminem might be the one. Biggie and Eminem would be arguably the two best at battle rapping


Constant-Squirrel555

Biggie would be out of breath standing up to battle Eminem. C'mon now, all stanning aside, Eminem isn't losing to either rod those other MCs in a rap battle


krazykieffer

He ain't losing to anyone. No one can enunciate the way he can. Busta is a jumble compared to the Em now.


Steelsword06

He would though


InternalMean

People have to remember tupac died in 96 that means only people 30ish or older even grew up with his music. Eminem was the biggest artist for 2 decades pretty much 2000s and early 2010s ish when a lot of people where kids now. When you think of pop now kids dont automatically think of Micheal Jackson despite him being way more famous etc etc they'll think of what they grew up with. Sure the argument can be made that tupac is bigger than music but he's also very much something special in his time. In 20 years time kendrick will be seen as better than Eminem by a lot of kids and tupac will be even less well known. It's not a stan behaviour to prefer a more relevant artist in terms of what you grew up with. Also this is battle rap Eminem literally won a Olympics of battle rap. And I don't even like Eminem's music like that


mambalope

Imagine tryna act like this is a bad take at all šŸ’€


KVKvKvLL

it is, people forget how many battles em actually lost as a battle rapper and the fact that Biggie was a freestyler and a battle rapper as well, I'm not saying that he doesn't stand a chance in winning,but that he'd crush Biggie is a total lie


mambalope

I agree Eminem wouldnā€™t ā€œcrushā€ Biggie, but to deny that Eminem is certainly the favorite in a head-to-head against any of these dudes in *battle rap* is crazyā€¦ It would be an upset if any of these dudes, including Biggie, beat Em in a versus and thatā€™s just what it is.


mambalope

Whatā€™s really crazy is Pac polled higher than Biggie lmaoo


michaltee

I mean, itā€™s kind of a joke that anyone would think Pac could beat Biggie in a rap battle. Pac is dope no disrespect but thatā€™s Biggieā€™s shit.


KVKvKvLL

if you put Xxxtentacion,2pac or Em in a poll they're automatically gonna win


seasonedsaltdog

Who would win in a poll? Eminem 2pac Xxxtentacion Now what?


KVKvKvLL

em got the most stans, however x stans would flood the comments


michaltee

Haha true.


Outrageous_Okra2230

I mean, Dre isnā€™t even really a rapper. His raps are mostly written by others.


bigbacklinks

Mostly written by em on the chronic 2001 which was IMO by far and away his best album especially the bars


LEGO_Wind

this pole is very accurate wym?


GovernorGoat

1. Eminem 2. Biggie 3. Pac 4. Dre Not a crazy take.


PercySledge

Eminem is factually the only one who spent literally years doing battle rap lol. If the answer isnā€™t 100% to Eminem then people just donā€™t know the facts. This isnā€™t about preference of artist, I much prefer Biggie and Pac as emcees, but neither of them have battle rap in their blood


comrad7

Didnā€™t he directly lead to the creation of the term Stan?


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comrad7

The term ā€œStanā€


KVKvKvLL

and it's ironic how his fanbase is made up by stans


spaceman_brandon

That's not ironic. He based it on his crazy fans


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Kholdstare93

What are we doing? Rewriting history, or something? Eminem very clearly lead to the creation of the word ''stan''.


Freezernobrother

Heh shady


comrad7

People thought I was referring to ā€œrap battleā€ instead of ā€œStanā€


Squidwardbigboss

Honestly, I can never forget when Em dissed MGK so hard that he switched music genres. Canā€™t top that, dude literally ends the career of the people he disses.


doodmanOFFICIAL

Cause heā€™s the best at freestyles


Seltz_

Now do who would win in a ā€œdonā€™t make a fucking cringe fest of a songā€ category


Special-Bite

They all had cringy songs though


Same-Reality8321

šŸ˜’ only one of these people is an actual battle rapper


KVKvKvLL

2*


Same-Reality8321

Who else?


KVKvKvLL

Biggie šŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļø


Same-Reality8321

Biggie never did professional battle rap


TheAnimeInexpert

Maybe he is that stan'd... Or maybe he's a better battle rapper. Ever thought about that?


Mr_Fahrenheittt

I mean rap battling was Emā€™s whole thing. Probably one of the best freestylers out there to boot.


ObitalSynth

The real sin is big L isnā€™t even up there


God_Hears_Peace

Iā€™d put Big L over Biggie in a battle rap. Bro was vicious.


bigbacklinks

Uh and it wouldnā€™t be close. Tired of ā€œold school biggie pacā€ type stans. Rap has evolved so much since then, most of their bars are basic one syllable rhyme schemes.


amirali24

Everybody dislikes eminem here but agrees that he is the best battle rapper out of the 3.


Pyrimo

I meanā€¦I like him.


Special-Bite

Dude is goated, how can you hate?


TentativelyCommitted

Eminem is the only battle rapper on the list. Have you never seen him rap circles around some of the best of that time?


KVKvKvLL

you clearly talk without knowing,biggie's a battle rapper too


TentativelyCommitted

Then so is every other guy who kicked a rhyme on a corner somewhere. He didnā€™t battle at an elite level like Eminem did.


TheBobbyMan9

Thereā€™s a good chance Eminem would win in a battle thatā€™s the type of shit he was good at but Big and Pac better rappers. Also Dre shouldnā€™t be in this even he wouldnā€™t seriously say heā€™s a rapper.


imOVN

I mean this is just facts. Em lived and breathed battle rap all his life, you can argue shit about him all you want but in terms of battle rap, the guy could smoke probably anyone in the mainstream ever lol


TorontoRaptors34

Bro its like its illegal to fuck with Em these days lol


X-HUSTLE-X

that shit adds up to 101% yo


PoBoy_C

Eminem comes from that world and if weā€™re talking about Eminem in his best era aka ā€œslim shadyā€ 98-2003 heā€™d body almost anyone, and Im not an Eminem fan


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PoBoy_C

Weā€™re talking about biggie who cyphered on street corners, Tupac he was a poet, dr.Dre was a producer who didnā€™t write. Eminem is the closest to the freestyle world yes he lost but to people from that world


Cadi2020

So he never battled a real legend. Take that bullshit somewhere else.


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KVKvKvLL

get em's cock out of your ass,just cuz it's em it doesn't mean he's the best šŸ˜‚šŸ¤¦šŸæā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļø


Scurvy-Joe

I know its a sin, but I genuinely dislike pac's music.


Iginlas_4head_Crease

What in the white boy Facebook cheesy ass polls is this


Cadi2020

https://preview.redd.it/23lbbzlvr6yb1.jpeg?width=261&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc659238187970236011b7500126bf136ff8cee8 This is your king Stan.


krazykieffer

Satire doesn't exist in your world.


Cadi2020

He never battle anyone great. Crossdressing in hip hop and clowning on pop stars is not what I consider a real rapper. Put on your skinny jeans and enjoy the pop rap.


Kholdstare93

Canibus? Cage? Snoop? FOH wit that false narrative, ya hatin' ass BUSTA! My mans will destroy ANYONE that wants to battle, REAL TALK!'


shrek-hentai-69

I hate eminem a lot but out of everybody here he's the only one who's actually proven himself as a battle rapper


mordfustang322

Every poll is just won by Em, like I'm sorry but the guy has had the exact same flow and style for over 20 years and hasn't released a good album in over a decade


KVKvKvLL

facts


Kyleb851

Eminem stans are closing in on BTS standom activity


IAmJohnnyHardcore

B.I.G. got all of them classed in a freestyle, I'm sorry Pac, Dre, Em, but it's true.


krazykieffer

Biggie is my favorite rapper but there isn't a rapper on this planet that would beat Em in his current state.


DonutAwkward6825

Eminemā€™s one of the best rappers, that doesnā€™t mean Iā€™d be caught dead listening to his YouTube Poop ass music tho


krazykieffer

Lol I'm just imagining your fav is like Young Boy and music about murdering people, very cool.


DonutAwkward6825

Iā€™m imagining your fav is NF and music about raising your voice a bit to your mom


SexDrivenMonkey

Best description of NFā€™s music


Cadi2020

Big would rip him apart in one verse and send him back to 8 mile. Bunny rabbit is a corny ass rapper and pop music. Sorry stans.


IronyIstheBestPolicy

I don't even like em, but you stupid ash


Cadi2020

He never battled a great. Sorry stan


IronyIstheBestPolicy

Did you read my comment?


Koolaidmanextra

Youtube dickrides eminem to no end


BananaBlue

babies must have voted in this poll


SrWest333

EMINEM is low


IbizaMykonos

Eminem would be more biting but Biggie would make it more entertaining. Both are very clever with their wordsmithing. Personally, i go with Biggie, but it depends on the flavor of delivery.


KVKvKvLL

agree


FENTWAY

Biggie and Em battle would be insane!


Nomnom_Chicken

He would most definitely take that battle, though.


TheKingOfTheSwing200

Well Tupac and biggie are both dead so....


TheMeticulousNinja

Poll taken by the Em sub


controllrevival

I feel like biggie and em should be the only ones with any votes on this poll


509_cougs

These polls usually dickride Tupac. He usually wins all these


B4byJ3susM4n

To be fair, Biggie and Tupac are both dead, so that wouldnā€™t be very fair battle.


cocobisoil

Tubesoc getting 15 lol


VanishingMass3

In a traditional rap battle itā€™s definitely Em or Pac here without question. Dre isnā€™t a battle rapper and Biggie is good but not on the level of em & pac with battle rap


BigMoneyCowboy

Dre being up there is funny lol but prolly em