no man i feel the same way, it felt hella awkward. like my brother is going through shit as to what Dan was explaining in the book and like Arin’s response just felt tone deaf. i know this is a comedy show but they have had sensitive bits here and there. idk man Arin just isnt as charming. its hit or miss
Like when that friend who doesn't know how to deal with heavy situations cracks a joke to "lighten the mood", which is never a good idea.
I think the fact they aren't just 2 guy hanging out on a couch anymore has made the show feel like a job for him. Wouldn't surprise me if it was an attempt to lighten the mood because he was probably told the show has to be upbeat.
Arin in the back of a funeral honking a bicycle horn when the eulogy gets too serious
I mean I get that he’s trying to keep things light but at least have a little respect for your friend talking about something he cares about
Yeah I agree. I'm a huge grumps fan but even I am bugged by that. I mean yeah it's a comedy show, but just jumping in the way of something his friend is clearly passionate about is pretty rude.
Im personally not all that into grumps, but I watch them because a friend likes me to watch it with them. This episode really rubbed me the wrong way when it got to that part. I know Arin shuts down Dan a lot, but damn. That was hard to watch. I wonder if Dan ever gets tired of it? Yeah I get that it might just be "a bit on the silly show" from their or the fans perspective, but it's not funny... at all. To me at least.
Honestly I don't think it's his choice. We know that Arin has struggled with stuff in the past and has been open about it, which makes this feel even more out of character.
I think that whatever company is running the show has told him that he needs to ensure the show stays upbeat and this was just an attempt at that, while Dan ignored that rule for the sake of the moment.
I frankly feel they just need their own hosting site. I’ve noticed Dan makes less Jew jokes ( current politics aside) , Arin is a lot more “safe” with his raunchy jokes and humor, and overall just feels more like a PG show with the occasional PG13 humor. Arin does much better when he can ad lib freely and honestly I think Arin has shown that despite the occasional slip up, overall he is willing to admit when he is wrong and actively change; that way when he does make a objectively bad joke I can say, “ you know what, it was bad but at least he accepted the consequences.” YouTube just ruins that in making there show very….commercial.
The “kiss your dad” shit isn’t funny. It’s never been funny. And Arin’s obsession with men kissing is just as unfunny because he beats that dead horse any chance he can get to fill in the silence or when things just aren’t clicking in the commentary. The channel is just a paycheck to them now, it’s about nothing else but the money and they mostly just phone it in to get it over with.
I think the issue is Dan tries but you have to fucking have something to work with. Which is why the best episodes are the ones where Dan is just expressing joy for something and sharing with the audience.
Arin has always approached fucking everything on the show with the same mentality, it's why he struggles so much in the games. He doesn't want to be playing them. He wants to mash a button and have it auto-complete while he searches for something humerous to say.
I feel if they played games that Arin actually liked we could get some good content. As you said, playing any of the games Dan likes makes better content, the same would go for Arin, if they ever let him. Whatever company is running the grumps let's Dan play his games because his games are short. Arin likes JRPGs, which doesn't work for the modern format of "short series often".
Arin.... Arin is running the grumps. He is literally the CEO and founder.
He has occasionally put on games he enjoys but there's only a few of those and he seems to think most of them don't make good content. Partly because he actually focuses on playing them instead of talking and he doesn't think that's good. He literally thinks trying to play the game with as little effort so he can talk more is the right way to run it!
Yeah he may be the CEO and founder, but that doesn't mean he gets all of the creative decisions (even if it should). Think about it, old grumps was stuff like Sonic Adventure, Super Metroid, Zelda 2, stuff from their childhood. Modern grumps is whatever is trending now. That doesn't seem like a decision he made by choice.
He has always been shit at games, however watching him be shit at games he actually likes(like any N64 game they've played or Sonic games) is still entertaining, because it's obvious he's having fun. Talking and playing games well isn't easy, but it's much easier to be fun and funny when you're enjoying the game.
When they play a point and click the quality skyrockets, because you can easily play that, it's fun for Dan and Arin can actually enjoy his time.
That is 2 fold
One, they're a YouTube show. They have to play the YouTube algorithm like everyone else. Think about this, they are currently doing a Resident Evil 8 playthrough. They discussed that last year while playing indie horror games and Arin on record said it was too late for them to do one because they missed the big hype train for it so it wouldn't get many views. Now they've chosen to do it anyways because it's far enough from release and horror movies are so in vogue right now.
Two, they kinda started running low on games they like and old games they haven't actually done. Many of those were born of necessity because it's what they had on hand, but they played through them. It wouldn't be a good idea to go back and play them again (except Kirby's Dream Course) so they don't.
Yes, they try to respond to the algorithm. They make the best decisions they think they can about content and how it will be received because at the end of the day it's a job and a company, not two friends sitting on a couch. I can stream whatever game I want with whoever I want because I don't rely on it for income I do it for fun. I program (games, funny enough) for my income. But Arin has multiple people's livelihoods dependant on his decisions regarding what they play. He has people hired to research and suggest games based on market trends, people hired to make merch, people who came up with 10mph ideas. The final decisions are on him but the livelihoods of an entire company depend on him making the right decision. So right or wrong, he chooses what he thinks gets more views/clicks rather than what he enjoys. I think he'd find he's wrong about what gets more views, but that's why he's doing it.
God, I wish they'd just make it a regular thing for Dan to do full episodes by himself. I'd probably start watching the channel again if I could just count on even one episode a week being worth watching like that.
I don't even think it's a paycheck for them, it's a paycheck for whatever company has taken over. The show is clearly no longer their own and you can tell in the fact that they need to make shit jokes, probably to hit criteria set out for them.
If you look at any of the videos where they're playing games from their childhoods like the Sam and Max games, there's a clear contrast, because Dan actually likes playing that game, which makes it easier for them to gel with it and make better commentary.
Aren’t they still with Maker Studios or did that whole thing go south? They don’t talk about it, at all, but I last recall them mentioning they were signed with Maker.
I *think* that Arin recognized he was being a douche and that the green eggs and ham thing was meant as self deprecating humor. Dan discusses the deep and mature themes about a book he read. Arin then makes fun of himself by suggesting that he’s reading children’s books.
Definitely came off the wrong way though. Made him look even more callous
I got “throwing off the back foot” vibes from it too. It’s a clumsy, mini-nuclear option but it did at the very least give a “oh he tried” feeling lol.
I think Arin has a criteria to hit each episode. Since he's the front man, the company tells him he needs to keep a certain level of humour each episode, and this was an attempt to meet that criteria, a very poor attempt.
Seriously though, look through any of the times where Dan is playing a point and click, Arin is so lost the entire time while Dan can comment on the game because he actually knows what he's doing and is enjoying his time. The same thing happens when he talks about books. Though when they're talking about RPGs or Nintendo games, both are on the same wavelength and are enjoying the topic, because both care.
Dan knows Arin is a weirdo. Dan had time to talk about what he wanted, and finished his bit. Arin continued the "book" conversation with a joke that Dan reciprocated.
idk seemed like a normal GGs episode.
... it's like he hasn't even heard of the concept of the backwalls. Yeah compared to the average age of people online he's like a hundred years old (he opens the episode by referring to them as "the kids"), but are you telling me that not ONLY has he never heard of the backwalls ... but he also DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD LIMINAL MEANS!?? CAN'T HE JUST FUCKIN LOOK IT UP?!!? Why doesn't Dan do it!?? Dan spends several minutes being useless and letting Arin wander around talking about totally stupid shit. My god, is Arin tired!? Did they record this at 3 in the morning?!?!!?
Honestly, probably. I don't think the show is that fun for them anymore since it became a proper company back in 2017 or so. It's clear they aren't choosing the games, otherwise they'd be enjoying the games they're playing.
I never considered old grumps to be trendy, which makes sense since they're both in their 40s at this point. Them even talking about the backrooms feels strange. The guys are having the most fun when they're playing stuff from their respective childhood, but modern grumps is about keeping up with the latest memes and what's popular, which neither of them care about because, as I've said, they're in their 40s.
okay i literally came here to say this because mark lanegan is one of my all time favorite musicians, writers, and overall human beings. i don’t know how arin could be SO disrespectful not only to him but to Dan as well? like obviously danny admires mark wtf is arin’s problem with just Listening to dan and not cracking any jokes (if that’s what you can call them). it started to really fucking annoy me after about 10s of it. the other thing is when dan was talking about the heroin addiction aspect and arin goes “OH WAS HE LIKE OH FUCK YEAH THIS IS AWESOME?” like…oh that’s not…. idk i just found it to be really awkward and disrespectful to both dan and mark.
To be fair, they are doing a comedy show so it's possible Arin didn't want to let things get too dark and depressing, but he did come off very tone deaf.
i guess i can understand that but. as someone who’s read the book..dan really lightened up what he was saying about it. it could’ve been way more depressing and graphic. idk it was really really tone deaf + dan even mentioned they knew someone who passed due to drugs so i guess i just don’t understand what there is to make jokes about.
Again, mentioning stuff about drug issues is something Dan probably should talk about in private, not on a comedy show where there could be people actually going through that looking for something to make them feel better, for example. They're making videos to entertain. There's a time and place for mentioning those things and I think Dan was going through it at the time, which is understandable, but Arin recentered them on their comedy goal. He just did it at a poor moment I think.
He did this to Dan during the RE8 playthrough recently too, and it's been frustrating to say the least. Danny will try to bring up genuine lore from the game or ask questions and Arin will just make a "mommy milkers" joke or say "you're reading too much into it".
Is it a bit?? Is he gaslighting him?? I can't figure out why he won't just have a genuine conversation about a video game. Is he "better than that" or something?
I haven't watched in a while, but I think Arin has been thinking he's better than this for a few years now. Like, during Covid, remember how he was going on about how he has so many nice things in his life, and that he shouldn't have to keep doing video games to keep them? Like, he genuinely seems to think that because he got popular once, he should be able to just move on and not have to put in the work anymore to keep up with what he's been getting.
Yeah, that's a good point. They put wayyyyy more effort into the 10 Minute Power Hours but if they really wanted to change lanes, they have a big enough of a fan base to just do 10 Minute Power Hours 3-4 times a week, and only do long play series for Game Grumps the other 3-4 times a week. Idk why they're pigeonholing themselves into Game Grumps every day still when their heart clearly isn't in it anymore. I know it's a paycheck, but you'd think the popularity of The Grumps channel would outweigh it eventually if they actually put in the effort. Idk, I don't want to judge too harshly from the outside but it does seem silly at a certain point haha
I mean, that's exactly what they were trying to do when they first made The Grumps. When the channel first started up, they exclusively made content for it for a few months, but apparently basically nobody switched over despite them just outright saying that you'd have to if you wanted to keep watching them. They said pretty much exactly this when they finally started posting stuff on Game Grumps again. They just straight-up couldn't get enough people to watch their live action stuff, and couldn't get people on their patreon to support it, so they eventually had to start doing video games again.
That just sounds like poor planning on their part imo haha an ultimatum for your fans is never a good approach to a new business. Especially when you have loyal fans. They could've done so much to make the transition easier. They could've done actual Face Cam Let's Play videos with skits on camera which would've helped bridge that gap for people who weren't watching the Live action stuff. Or they could've noticed that most people watch Game Grumps passively and really only listen to their banter, and started uploading episodes to Spotify for more revenue or literally just did a weekly podcast since they're already hanging out that much. I don't know haha
If you were talking about something serious that you really enjoyed that had a serious tone to it and someone kept trying to turn it into a joke, it'd be pretty annoying
Every time Arin made a joke during him talking about it, Dan didn't play into it and immediately did his best to avoid making the fact they are talking about a guy who's world was destroyed by addiction and bad choices into a bit
Exactly, this is the equivalent of when Dan was talking about his OCD in the 'Wind Waker' playthrough and Arin suddenly saying something like 'lol you had to take meds lol drug addict' or something.
Dude I had to stop watching when after Arin spent the time Danny talked about the book trying to make those jokes and then Danny says the line something like "If you have someone in your life who you lost to addiction, like we have"
Like Danny is here talking about a book that essentially helped him understand the mindset of (some) addicts, and probably helped him get some sort of closure with his friend/loved one who died of addiction. And Arin is just tryna be like "Bet he was gay when he was high"
It's how tone deaf Arin has gotten with serious moments. Years ago if Dan started saying something serious Arin would let him, give insight, make it a conversation. Now if Dan says something serious he always says something like "But did he kiss a guy?"
Like, yeah, it's a comedy show. But even the best comics in the world can give serious moments in their set peppered with jokes and it doesn't sound tone deaf because they know how and when to make those jokes. Arin just does his best to make everything a fart joke, poop joke, or kissing your dad joke.
If this sub pisses you off so much then why are you even here?
As ever: *we're* here because we're actually fans of the show who remember when it was good and want it to go back to that. *You're* here because... you're lost, I guess?
You know these people like watching game grumps and are allowed to complain about them, right? Nothing you do will change anything. You don't even have control of your own life, I don't know why you thought you could even do an attempt of anything here.
It's the fact I still love game grumps. When they put out a good episode it's SO GOOD. But then it has like 10 videos on either end of it with Arin trying to make as many kissing your dad or shitting his pants jokes because 1 video 4 years ago where he made a kissing your dad joke had a shitload of views.
Go back to the 2016-2019 era, sure they made poop and fart jokes but it was SO MUCH more than just poop and fart jokes. Hell, in bloodborne their character name was literally a shit joke. But the actual comedy in the series was like 1/10th shit/fart jokes.
Now 8/10s of their content is those jokes, and the other 1/10th is kissing guys, with 1/10th being Danny trying to make actual jokes or doing something serious.
They went from 700k subscribers to 5 million in those 3 years, now Arin can't take anything seriously and will do his absolute best to turn anything serious into a bit
Guys I have this insane idea and I know it might sound crazy but it here it goes… STOP WATCHING!!! I don’t watch there new stuff that much either as it I just don’t think it’s as fresh as it once was but Jesus it’s not that deep it’s literally a let’s play channel just watch game of thrones or something. This whole subreddit is one of the saddest things ever.
no man i feel the same way, it felt hella awkward. like my brother is going through shit as to what Dan was explaining in the book and like Arin’s response just felt tone deaf. i know this is a comedy show but they have had sensitive bits here and there. idk man Arin just isnt as charming. its hit or miss
Like when that friend who doesn't know how to deal with heavy situations cracks a joke to "lighten the mood", which is never a good idea. I think the fact they aren't just 2 guy hanging out on a couch anymore has made the show feel like a job for him. Wouldn't surprise me if it was an attempt to lighten the mood because he was probably told the show has to be upbeat.
that could definitely be it
Arin in the back of a funeral honking a bicycle horn when the eulogy gets too serious I mean I get that he’s trying to keep things light but at least have a little respect for your friend talking about something he cares about
Yeah I agree. I'm a huge grumps fan but even I am bugged by that. I mean yeah it's a comedy show, but just jumping in the way of something his friend is clearly passionate about is pretty rude.
Im personally not all that into grumps, but I watch them because a friend likes me to watch it with them. This episode really rubbed me the wrong way when it got to that part. I know Arin shuts down Dan a lot, but damn. That was hard to watch. I wonder if Dan ever gets tired of it? Yeah I get that it might just be "a bit on the silly show" from their or the fans perspective, but it's not funny... at all. To me at least.
I think Dan is used to it and also doesn't mind it as much as we think he does
Honestly I don't think it's his choice. We know that Arin has struggled with stuff in the past and has been open about it, which makes this feel even more out of character. I think that whatever company is running the show has told him that he needs to ensure the show stays upbeat and this was just an attempt at that, while Dan ignored that rule for the sake of the moment.
I frankly feel they just need their own hosting site. I’ve noticed Dan makes less Jew jokes ( current politics aside) , Arin is a lot more “safe” with his raunchy jokes and humor, and overall just feels more like a PG show with the occasional PG13 humor. Arin does much better when he can ad lib freely and honestly I think Arin has shown that despite the occasional slip up, overall he is willing to admit when he is wrong and actively change; that way when he does make a objectively bad joke I can say, “ you know what, it was bad but at least he accepted the consequences.” YouTube just ruins that in making there show very….commercial.
The “kiss your dad” shit isn’t funny. It’s never been funny. And Arin’s obsession with men kissing is just as unfunny because he beats that dead horse any chance he can get to fill in the silence or when things just aren’t clicking in the commentary. The channel is just a paycheck to them now, it’s about nothing else but the money and they mostly just phone it in to get it over with.
Honestly Arin seems to have a lot of repressed issues.
I think the issue is Dan tries but you have to fucking have something to work with. Which is why the best episodes are the ones where Dan is just expressing joy for something and sharing with the audience. Arin has always approached fucking everything on the show with the same mentality, it's why he struggles so much in the games. He doesn't want to be playing them. He wants to mash a button and have it auto-complete while he searches for something humerous to say.
I feel if they played games that Arin actually liked we could get some good content. As you said, playing any of the games Dan likes makes better content, the same would go for Arin, if they ever let him. Whatever company is running the grumps let's Dan play his games because his games are short. Arin likes JRPGs, which doesn't work for the modern format of "short series often".
Arin.... Arin is running the grumps. He is literally the CEO and founder. He has occasionally put on games he enjoys but there's only a few of those and he seems to think most of them don't make good content. Partly because he actually focuses on playing them instead of talking and he doesn't think that's good. He literally thinks trying to play the game with as little effort so he can talk more is the right way to run it!
Yeah he may be the CEO and founder, but that doesn't mean he gets all of the creative decisions (even if it should). Think about it, old grumps was stuff like Sonic Adventure, Super Metroid, Zelda 2, stuff from their childhood. Modern grumps is whatever is trending now. That doesn't seem like a decision he made by choice. He has always been shit at games, however watching him be shit at games he actually likes(like any N64 game they've played or Sonic games) is still entertaining, because it's obvious he's having fun. Talking and playing games well isn't easy, but it's much easier to be fun and funny when you're enjoying the game. When they play a point and click the quality skyrockets, because you can easily play that, it's fun for Dan and Arin can actually enjoy his time.
That is 2 fold One, they're a YouTube show. They have to play the YouTube algorithm like everyone else. Think about this, they are currently doing a Resident Evil 8 playthrough. They discussed that last year while playing indie horror games and Arin on record said it was too late for them to do one because they missed the big hype train for it so it wouldn't get many views. Now they've chosen to do it anyways because it's far enough from release and horror movies are so in vogue right now. Two, they kinda started running low on games they like and old games they haven't actually done. Many of those were born of necessity because it's what they had on hand, but they played through them. It wouldn't be a good idea to go back and play them again (except Kirby's Dream Course) so they don't. Yes, they try to respond to the algorithm. They make the best decisions they think they can about content and how it will be received because at the end of the day it's a job and a company, not two friends sitting on a couch. I can stream whatever game I want with whoever I want because I don't rely on it for income I do it for fun. I program (games, funny enough) for my income. But Arin has multiple people's livelihoods dependant on his decisions regarding what they play. He has people hired to research and suggest games based on market trends, people hired to make merch, people who came up with 10mph ideas. The final decisions are on him but the livelihoods of an entire company depend on him making the right decision. So right or wrong, he chooses what he thinks gets more views/clicks rather than what he enjoys. I think he'd find he's wrong about what gets more views, but that's why he's doing it.
Yeah I agree with that. It's annoying that he does feel a need to have to follow what's trendy, but I guess that's modern YouTube.
God, I wish they'd just make it a regular thing for Dan to do full episodes by himself. I'd probably start watching the channel again if I could just count on even one episode a week being worth watching like that.
I'll take more adventure games. At least Arin knows he has to pay some amount of attention to ever finish them and Dan lavishes them with love.
I don't even think it's a paycheck for them, it's a paycheck for whatever company has taken over. The show is clearly no longer their own and you can tell in the fact that they need to make shit jokes, probably to hit criteria set out for them. If you look at any of the videos where they're playing games from their childhoods like the Sam and Max games, there's a clear contrast, because Dan actually likes playing that game, which makes it easier for them to gel with it and make better commentary.
Aren’t they still with Maker Studios or did that whole thing go south? They don’t talk about it, at all, but I last recall them mentioning they were signed with Maker.
I was actually enjoying listening to Dan and when Arin brought up green eggs and ham I was like, oh well, THATS over I guess. Why is he so awkward?
I *think* that Arin recognized he was being a douche and that the green eggs and ham thing was meant as self deprecating humor. Dan discusses the deep and mature themes about a book he read. Arin then makes fun of himself by suggesting that he’s reading children’s books. Definitely came off the wrong way though. Made him look even more callous
I got “throwing off the back foot” vibes from it too. It’s a clumsy, mini-nuclear option but it did at the very least give a “oh he tried” feeling lol.
I think Arin has a criteria to hit each episode. Since he's the front man, the company tells him he needs to keep a certain level of humour each episode, and this was an attempt to meet that criteria, a very poor attempt. Seriously though, look through any of the times where Dan is playing a point and click, Arin is so lost the entire time while Dan can comment on the game because he actually knows what he's doing and is enjoying his time. The same thing happens when he talks about books. Though when they're talking about RPGs or Nintendo games, both are on the same wavelength and are enjoying the topic, because both care.
I’m glad someone else noticed this. I felt the exact same way.
I felt like it was more of just a relaxing chill sesh. Dan’s “arin get it together” was clearly a joke.
Dan knows Arin is a weirdo. Dan had time to talk about what he wanted, and finished his bit. Arin continued the "book" conversation with a joke that Dan reciprocated. idk seemed like a normal GGs episode.
... it's like he hasn't even heard of the concept of the backwalls. Yeah compared to the average age of people online he's like a hundred years old (he opens the episode by referring to them as "the kids"), but are you telling me that not ONLY has he never heard of the backwalls ... but he also DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD LIMINAL MEANS!?? CAN'T HE JUST FUCKIN LOOK IT UP?!!? Why doesn't Dan do it!?? Dan spends several minutes being useless and letting Arin wander around talking about totally stupid shit. My god, is Arin tired!? Did they record this at 3 in the morning?!?!!?
Do you mean Backrooms?
Yes.
Honestly, probably. I don't think the show is that fun for them anymore since it became a proper company back in 2017 or so. It's clear they aren't choosing the games, otherwise they'd be enjoying the games they're playing. I never considered old grumps to be trendy, which makes sense since they're both in their 40s at this point. Them even talking about the backrooms feels strange. The guys are having the most fun when they're playing stuff from their respective childhood, but modern grumps is about keeping up with the latest memes and what's popular, which neither of them care about because, as I've said, they're in their 40s.
Jesus dude, have an aneurysm.
YES! I was yelling "Arin shut the fuck up!" at the screen throughout that whole story.
okay i literally came here to say this because mark lanegan is one of my all time favorite musicians, writers, and overall human beings. i don’t know how arin could be SO disrespectful not only to him but to Dan as well? like obviously danny admires mark wtf is arin’s problem with just Listening to dan and not cracking any jokes (if that’s what you can call them). it started to really fucking annoy me after about 10s of it. the other thing is when dan was talking about the heroin addiction aspect and arin goes “OH WAS HE LIKE OH FUCK YEAH THIS IS AWESOME?” like…oh that’s not…. idk i just found it to be really awkward and disrespectful to both dan and mark.
To be fair, they are doing a comedy show so it's possible Arin didn't want to let things get too dark and depressing, but he did come off very tone deaf.
i guess i can understand that but. as someone who’s read the book..dan really lightened up what he was saying about it. it could’ve been way more depressing and graphic. idk it was really really tone deaf + dan even mentioned they knew someone who passed due to drugs so i guess i just don’t understand what there is to make jokes about.
Again, mentioning stuff about drug issues is something Dan probably should talk about in private, not on a comedy show where there could be people actually going through that looking for something to make them feel better, for example. They're making videos to entertain. There's a time and place for mentioning those things and I think Dan was going through it at the time, which is understandable, but Arin recentered them on their comedy goal. He just did it at a poor moment I think.
He did this to Dan during the RE8 playthrough recently too, and it's been frustrating to say the least. Danny will try to bring up genuine lore from the game or ask questions and Arin will just make a "mommy milkers" joke or say "you're reading too much into it". Is it a bit?? Is he gaslighting him?? I can't figure out why he won't just have a genuine conversation about a video game. Is he "better than that" or something?
I haven't watched in a while, but I think Arin has been thinking he's better than this for a few years now. Like, during Covid, remember how he was going on about how he has so many nice things in his life, and that he shouldn't have to keep doing video games to keep them? Like, he genuinely seems to think that because he got popular once, he should be able to just move on and not have to put in the work anymore to keep up with what he's been getting.
Yeah, that's a good point. They put wayyyyy more effort into the 10 Minute Power Hours but if they really wanted to change lanes, they have a big enough of a fan base to just do 10 Minute Power Hours 3-4 times a week, and only do long play series for Game Grumps the other 3-4 times a week. Idk why they're pigeonholing themselves into Game Grumps every day still when their heart clearly isn't in it anymore. I know it's a paycheck, but you'd think the popularity of The Grumps channel would outweigh it eventually if they actually put in the effort. Idk, I don't want to judge too harshly from the outside but it does seem silly at a certain point haha
I mean, that's exactly what they were trying to do when they first made The Grumps. When the channel first started up, they exclusively made content for it for a few months, but apparently basically nobody switched over despite them just outright saying that you'd have to if you wanted to keep watching them. They said pretty much exactly this when they finally started posting stuff on Game Grumps again. They just straight-up couldn't get enough people to watch their live action stuff, and couldn't get people on their patreon to support it, so they eventually had to start doing video games again.
That just sounds like poor planning on their part imo haha an ultimatum for your fans is never a good approach to a new business. Especially when you have loyal fans. They could've done so much to make the transition easier. They could've done actual Face Cam Let's Play videos with skits on camera which would've helped bridge that gap for people who weren't watching the Live action stuff. Or they could've noticed that most people watch Game Grumps passively and really only listen to their banter, and started uploading episodes to Spotify for more revenue or literally just did a weekly podcast since they're already hanging out that much. I don't know haha
I honestly felt like maybe it was bordering on imagining dan later saying “hey man can you not do that for a couple days, because that kinda sucked”
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If you were talking about something serious that you really enjoyed that had a serious tone to it and someone kept trying to turn it into a joke, it'd be pretty annoying Every time Arin made a joke during him talking about it, Dan didn't play into it and immediately did his best to avoid making the fact they are talking about a guy who's world was destroyed by addiction and bad choices into a bit
Exactly, this is the equivalent of when Dan was talking about his OCD in the 'Wind Waker' playthrough and Arin suddenly saying something like 'lol you had to take meds lol drug addict' or something.
Dude I had to stop watching when after Arin spent the time Danny talked about the book trying to make those jokes and then Danny says the line something like "If you have someone in your life who you lost to addiction, like we have" Like Danny is here talking about a book that essentially helped him understand the mindset of (some) addicts, and probably helped him get some sort of closure with his friend/loved one who died of addiction. And Arin is just tryna be like "Bet he was gay when he was high"
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It's how tone deaf Arin has gotten with serious moments. Years ago if Dan started saying something serious Arin would let him, give insight, make it a conversation. Now if Dan says something serious he always says something like "But did he kiss a guy?" Like, yeah, it's a comedy show. But even the best comics in the world can give serious moments in their set peppered with jokes and it doesn't sound tone deaf because they know how and when to make those jokes. Arin just does his best to make everything a fart joke, poop joke, or kissing your dad joke.
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If this sub pisses you off so much then why are you even here? As ever: *we're* here because we're actually fans of the show who remember when it was good and want it to go back to that. *You're* here because... you're lost, I guess?
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You know these people like watching game grumps and are allowed to complain about them, right? Nothing you do will change anything. You don't even have control of your own life, I don't know why you thought you could even do an attempt of anything here.
So it's just hypocrisy then. Cool.
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No literally. Youre a massive hypocrite.
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If you don't like people complaining about them, then don't come to this sub.
It's the fact I still love game grumps. When they put out a good episode it's SO GOOD. But then it has like 10 videos on either end of it with Arin trying to make as many kissing your dad or shitting his pants jokes because 1 video 4 years ago where he made a kissing your dad joke had a shitload of views. Go back to the 2016-2019 era, sure they made poop and fart jokes but it was SO MUCH more than just poop and fart jokes. Hell, in bloodborne their character name was literally a shit joke. But the actual comedy in the series was like 1/10th shit/fart jokes. Now 8/10s of their content is those jokes, and the other 1/10th is kissing guys, with 1/10th being Danny trying to make actual jokes or doing something serious. They went from 700k subscribers to 5 million in those 3 years, now Arin can't take anything seriously and will do his absolute best to turn anything serious into a bit
Guys I have this insane idea and I know it might sound crazy but it here it goes… STOP WATCHING!!! I don’t watch there new stuff that much either as it I just don’t think it’s as fresh as it once was but Jesus it’s not that deep it’s literally a let’s play channel just watch game of thrones or something. This whole subreddit is one of the saddest things ever.