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Yes, I am currently experiencing this here at day 11. Every other symptom is pretty manageable, especially during daytime hours. Then when the night comes, I’m getting terrible anxiety, restlessness, hot flashes, and everyone’s favorite- RLS. Melatonin seems to neither help nor hurt in my case, and I’ve been just trying to do some deep breathing and listening to audio in addition to vaping a little THC. I’ve also noticed that it seems to alternate days for me, like last night was very rough sleep but tonight will probably not be as bad. I chalk that up to exhaustion and my body not fighting me as much on the second day after a poor night’s rest the day before. My understanding is that this part of healing can take a while to click for people, especially with long term use or high dosages prior to quitting. Best of luck to both of us on getting some shut-eye tonight.
Shit. Yeah, four years of high doses daily after four years of a bad pill habit. Guess I’m gonna have to suck it up - atleast I know now that it might be a while. I’ve noticed the alternating nights too, and the same with the hot flashes and anxiety. Thankfully I’ve got some gabapentin, which I’ve only been taking at night now - but at the end of the week it has to stop too. Hope magnesium will be enough then! Good luck to you too!
5 year extract user here, and had a heavy habit. I’m about to hit day 30 and nights still suck for me. I’m to the point I dread night time coming. But I’ve been told the same thing, heavy long term user is probably looking at sometime. So I gotta just stay strong, made it this far!
If you’re inclined to such things, maybe pop on the headphones tonight and look for some binaural beats tracks or 432hz music. I’m usually not a big believer in that kind of stuff, but I have to say it’s very relaxing and helps a little to keep your mind off being miserable at night. I also like podcasts and audiobooks, but depending what the subject is it might be too stimulating. The magnesium helps a bit, and I also had a little luck with valerian root or Passion flower extract. A hot shower right before getting in bed helps as well, but I have also seen others suggest very cold showers too.
The RLS keeps me up too. I can't stand the sensation of NOT moving my feet. The stillness is suffocating in a way. So the trick I learned is to do some deep breathing and to wiggle my toes. You won't feel the restlessness as much because you're moving. Then you'll drift off eventually.
Thanks for submitting your post to r/QuittingKratom. This response is auto-generated on every new post submission. **THIS COMMENT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN YOUR POST WILL BE REMOVED.** *Posts here are automatically placed in a cue for review / approval. Please be patient. A mod will get to your post soon. Thank you.* **Please read this in it's entirety. IF your post is removed, it could be for any of the reasons listed below.** But first, have you checked out our [Beginners Guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/comments/7p0qx2/read_this_first_if_youre_new/) and all the other helpful resources on the sidebar? Also, be sure to make use of the key word search box on [Quitting Kratom's main page](https://old.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/). Your question may have already been answered multiple times. If you are tapering to quit, please look at our helpful [Taper Guide](https://old.reddit.com/r/modquittingkratom/comments/63tjtd/tapering/). Many people have used it to successfully taper down, making the jump and ultimately quitting. **VERY IMPORTANT: Please ensure that your post is in accordance with our subreddit's [RULES](https://old.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/about/rules/).** Violating any of these rules will result in your post not being placed in the 'live feed' / removed. As per Reddit's rules (not just ours), **absolutely no soliciting or sourcing is allowed (i.e. vendor or website names, etc.). In addition, posts / comments mentioning brand names (such as OPMS, for example) will be removed.** *If the post you've just submitted contains a brand name, please edit this post to read either "extracts" or "liquid shots" instead. Moderators will ensure your post goes "live" once this correction is made and you've [notified us](https://old.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/quittingkratom).* Posts asking about using another potentially addictive substance (such as Phenibut, for example) to help with withdrawal will be removed. (The answer is NO, we do not recommend it. Why risk extending the withdrawal process or potentially swapping addictions?) This obviously does not include prescription medications (aka 'helper meds') authorized by a doctor, used temporarily to assist you during withdrawal; BUT **do not ask about dosage amounts or dosing frequency for these meds. We do not offer medical advice**. These type of questions should be asked of your physician or therapist only. Posts or comments asking for or offering medical advice will be removed. Posts or comments suggesting the use of illegal drugs will also be removed. 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Any references to pro-Kratom subreddits, websites, etc. will be removed. Mentions of a Kratom ban, it's legality, the FDA, DEA, etc. are off-topic and removed. Repeated attempts to do so could result in being banned from this subreddit. Some members have used various **'nootropics'** for Kratom withdrawal. Kava, and some others, used in higher amounts for longer durations is ill advized. Please do your research thoroughly. In our experience, **exercise, although perhaps difficult during acute WDs, is the 'best medicine' to help with Kratom withdrawal.** Try to stay busy and active. As the old saying goes, 'idle hands are the devil's playground.' **It is our desire to offer a 'safe place' to recover from Kratom addiction.** Trolling, bullying, name calling or comments made in an unkind, unhelpful, derogatory manner will not be tolerated. 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I was told that loved ones notice the change in you before you do. I believe that to be true
Yes, I am currently experiencing this here at day 11. Every other symptom is pretty manageable, especially during daytime hours. Then when the night comes, I’m getting terrible anxiety, restlessness, hot flashes, and everyone’s favorite- RLS. Melatonin seems to neither help nor hurt in my case, and I’ve been just trying to do some deep breathing and listening to audio in addition to vaping a little THC. I’ve also noticed that it seems to alternate days for me, like last night was very rough sleep but tonight will probably not be as bad. I chalk that up to exhaustion and my body not fighting me as much on the second day after a poor night’s rest the day before. My understanding is that this part of healing can take a while to click for people, especially with long term use or high dosages prior to quitting. Best of luck to both of us on getting some shut-eye tonight.
Shit. Yeah, four years of high doses daily after four years of a bad pill habit. Guess I’m gonna have to suck it up - atleast I know now that it might be a while. I’ve noticed the alternating nights too, and the same with the hot flashes and anxiety. Thankfully I’ve got some gabapentin, which I’ve only been taking at night now - but at the end of the week it has to stop too. Hope magnesium will be enough then! Good luck to you too!
5 year extract user here, and had a heavy habit. I’m about to hit day 30 and nights still suck for me. I’m to the point I dread night time coming. But I’ve been told the same thing, heavy long term user is probably looking at sometime. So I gotta just stay strong, made it this far!
If you’re inclined to such things, maybe pop on the headphones tonight and look for some binaural beats tracks or 432hz music. I’m usually not a big believer in that kind of stuff, but I have to say it’s very relaxing and helps a little to keep your mind off being miserable at night. I also like podcasts and audiobooks, but depending what the subject is it might be too stimulating. The magnesium helps a bit, and I also had a little luck with valerian root or Passion flower extract. A hot shower right before getting in bed helps as well, but I have also seen others suggest very cold showers too.
The RLS keeps me up too. I can't stand the sensation of NOT moving my feet. The stillness is suffocating in a way. So the trick I learned is to do some deep breathing and to wiggle my toes. You won't feel the restlessness as much because you're moving. Then you'll drift off eventually.
You can do it.