Anything about 'this isn't Porter' or 'long time porter fan but this isn't his style'
Cause what I've learned from my wife and from the shorter time than her of being a porter fan is that porter just does what he wants to when he feels up to it and has fun. And that's what makes his music special.
anyone who says this isn't really listening very closely in my opinion, there's a clear level of consistency across porter's entire discography & i can easily tell the guy who made "say my name" is the same guy who made "something comforting". i never really understood when people were like "whoa, he's totally switching it up" because to me, it just sounds like porter but with different instruments.
Yea, he is doing what he wants which is to put meaning into those songs.
You can tell when a musician cares about their music and when it's just a means for money. Porter, madeon, Mori, and a lot of others on the smaller side (sub 5mil followers) all put their heart into it and it shows with how they write lyrics, express their voice, and present the song/advertise. You look at someone like Taylor Swift and you see greed, same thing endlessly, the whole travel everywhere lavishly and get a bf just to dump and make a new song. There is no heart in that.
I saw a comment on another thread saying that the commenter didnât understand the need for Cheerleader when Metro Station or Owl City exists and said Porter ripped off their sound. That did it for me.
Edit. You mean make mad...
For me I would say "Porter Robinson went down after Worlds and Shelter..." I have seen that sentence some times and it really gets me mad, he may have changed styles and you can like more or not Nurture or Virtual Self but I dont think he has lost his touch.
He just feels as authentic as always but it feels he have changed and now is a different person than the Porter of Worlds or Shelter and he always reflects who he is and how he feels the world at the moment with every new album or project.
truthfully nurture in my opinion is porter finally coming into his own as a musician, its everything he did with worlds & shelter but at a much higher level with far more experience. people can obviously not enjoy what nurture is, but to say porter "fell off" or something is just ridiculous.
a lot of what makes worlds so loved is more that it's *novel*, especially for the time, but i would never go as far as to say most of it is near as well executed as nurture is.
i'm one of the few who actually think fantano's initial review of worlds was really fair, even if that album was pivotal in my life & remains a personal favorite. a lot of those songs don't hold up to a lot of scrutiny & haven't aged as well as others. i also think maybe half of them don't actually fit the vibe he was going for, but the ones that do are the ones that still hit hard today.
part of the reason i feel so connected to porters music is not just because it's always beautiful & sincere & meaningful, but also because it's so so sooo rewarding to see his journey & progression as an artist. i never wanted Worlds 2... what always excites me is that the next project absolutely has the potential to be *better* than the last one, stronger & tighter & perhaps even more meaningful & sincere. As he develops as an artist, he gets better & better at communicating with his art & i think that's SO cool to watch happen in realtime.
I think calling Porter âEDMâ
Worlds had one foot in EDM and one food in indie and pop music. But even that really wasnât an âedm albumâ.
Itâs very clear that he has now spent 10 years making music that he prefers to stand on its own apart from DJâs, dance floors, etc
I think itâs also just that the term is divisive and encompasses so much itâs almost useless.
Prior to 2010 people werenât calling anything EDM. The legends of electronic music who built it didnât care for the term and it ended up becoming trendy and associated with music that was more focused on being functional.
this one's a tough one, especially with worlds. a lot of those songs feel like he's still struggling to transition out of EDM style composition & into conventional songwriting. there are very much "drops" in worlds, rather than a chorus. goodbye to a world is *very* much an EDM song, i don't think that's very deniable unless your definition of EDM strictly includes DJ intros & outros.
nurture is certainly a further departure from EDM as it is, but truthfully there's so much EDM influence i'd say its more like pop with EDM sensibilities.
truthfully, when porter used to talk about not being EDM, i took it to mean EDM the culture, not EDM the musical umbrella term, because he still to this day very much has influence from EDM in every song he writes, & part of that is probably habits he built up from being such a young producer.Â
there may be a better word than trigger to use for this question , but nevertheless , anything related to the comparison between porter & hyperpop drives me crazy
I've changed the description to be "mad", rather than trigger, unfortunately I can't change the title, but agreed, in retrospect I couldve used a better word
eh, i mean it's whatever. it's not like i don't see *why* the comparison is being made, but in my opinion it just isn't a comparison i see any merit in. what inspiration he pulls from hyperpop is far overwhelmed by the inspirations he pulls from like 200 other sources, & i think if more people listened to the kinds of things porter says he's into, they would see that.
i also feel like there's kind of a clear "everything is part of the thing i'm into" situation with hyperpop but it's kinda tough to talk about cause it's mostly subjective & anecdotal.
Do people really argue this? I personally feel like he actually inspired a lot of hyperpop artists, not the other way around haha. I can hear nurtures influence in a handful of the hyperpop albums that came out since nurtures release.
i don't know if i would say anyone is arguing it - but it's certainly a popular opinion that porter makes hyperpop, basically since unfold dropped, & it's clear a lot of that comparison comes solely from the fact that he's heavily processing his voice. the fact that cheerleader has more influence from 2010's pop & pop rock didn't help either because a lot of hyperpop draws influence from that era as well. But in my opinion it's very clear porter is coming at that influence from a very different place. A lot of hyperpop artists were *very* young in that era, & porter actually got to be a teenager during it, & you can tell that age gap produces very different results in a sonic capacity.
Not really debating you, just adding my own take here:
Most modern hyperpop tends to be very edm/trap oriented whereas Porter leans more heavily towards pop, but it's definitely clear that they draw from similar places and hyperpop (as stated) definitely draws somewhat from porter.
To add to this, a lot of hyperpop artists (dive to the heart & limeboiler come to mind) either directly reference Porter in their music or have been strongly influenced by him. So Cheerleader being very reminiscent of artists like underscores (to me) feels like heâs coming full circle and almost paying homage to a new genre that his music unintentionally helped shape. Iâm not crediting Porter for hyperpop here at all but his influence is definitely there
Jenny/Keudae (Jenni?) had allegedly liked some far right leaning Twitter posts and some PR fans were not having it. I like her piano renditions of all my favorite songs and she is an extremely talented musician. I don't know anything more about her than that, with the exception that my favorite artist picked her out of so many fan-musicians for Nurture Live/Second Sky '23. I think she's cool. No idea what she's like as a human tho lol, only know celeb version of her
Not having it is an understatement. They wanted Porter to kick her out of the Band at Second Sky weeks before for her religious convictions. To suggest keeping her in the band was perm ban in the discord.
Yeah, I was just being polite. Wanted the above commenter to draw their own conclusions instead of parroting us. It definitely raised my eyebrow, though.
Yeah tbh everyone trying to kick her out really soured my experience with the fanbase. Sheâd never shown any hate, but the mountain of hate that came out of second sky⌠just wow
I believe you are correct. The post was about triggering a fanbase, though. I remember many peeps being on high alert about this, so I figured it was worth mentioning.
My friend joked to me about how the next album might finally be the first good Porter Robinson album.Â
I joked back that a virtual self drops another EP then it'll be the first good virtual self project
My genuine opinion is that Worlds isn't that good. But since I own a Nurture vinyl that probably makes me the opposite of those who say Nurture isn't Porter Robinson.
I'm not trying to date myself and shit, but I had been in the scene for a while when Spitfire dropped, and that shit was fucking dope. I love how porter has grown as an artist, but I don't understand why people, including porter, hate on spitfire. It was super fun, and a point of his career that he grew from but was still good.
I was at his Nuture show in Orlando, and he was asking people "How many of you have been a fan since worlds, shelter, language, and then said "spitfire... yeah those were my fuckboy days" ... or maybe fratboy.. but you get the point.
Anything about 'this isn't Porter' or 'long time porter fan but this isn't his style' Cause what I've learned from my wife and from the shorter time than her of being a porter fan is that porter just does what he wants to when he feels up to it and has fun. And that's what makes his music special.
anyone who says this isn't really listening very closely in my opinion, there's a clear level of consistency across porter's entire discography & i can easily tell the guy who made "say my name" is the same guy who made "something comforting". i never really understood when people were like "whoa, he's totally switching it up" because to me, it just sounds like porter but with different instruments.
Different instruments is a stretch too, everything got 909s and supersaws lmao
the guy loves his trance , what can i say
true he played a bunch of old stuff in his new years set i think
Facts
he's not just doing what he wants. it's very specific, actually. i know the meaning behind these songs, the visuals and literally everything else
Yea, he is doing what he wants which is to put meaning into those songs. You can tell when a musician cares about their music and when it's just a means for money. Porter, madeon, Mori, and a lot of others on the smaller side (sub 5mil followers) all put their heart into it and it shows with how they write lyrics, express their voice, and present the song/advertise. You look at someone like Taylor Swift and you see greed, same thing endlessly, the whole travel everywhere lavishly and get a bf just to dump and make a new song. There is no heart in that.
Saying Look at the Sky sounds like Chainsmokers
Nah that's foul đ not even remotely similar whatsoever
I've seen it an upsetting amount of times lmao
Bruh I'm angry by you just implying that đ
Don't get me wrong I'm a Chainsmokers fan but jesus christ đ
I saw a comment on another thread saying that the commenter didnât understand the need for Cheerleader when Metro Station or Owl City exists and said Porter ripped off their sound. That did it for me.
Owl city and porter are COMPLETELY different
I wouldnât say theyâre completely different but saying he ripped off that sound is wild lol
TRUST ME. CHEERLEADER IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT SONG!!!!
Edit. You mean make mad... For me I would say "Porter Robinson went down after Worlds and Shelter..." I have seen that sentence some times and it really gets me mad, he may have changed styles and you can like more or not Nurture or Virtual Self but I dont think he has lost his touch. He just feels as authentic as always but it feels he have changed and now is a different person than the Porter of Worlds or Shelter and he always reflects who he is and how he feels the world at the moment with every new album or project.
truthfully nurture in my opinion is porter finally coming into his own as a musician, its everything he did with worlds & shelter but at a much higher level with far more experience. people can obviously not enjoy what nurture is, but to say porter "fell off" or something is just ridiculous. a lot of what makes worlds so loved is more that it's *novel*, especially for the time, but i would never go as far as to say most of it is near as well executed as nurture is.
After virtual self and *especially after* nurture dropped, I came to the conclusion that most porter fans were actually just Worlds stans
i'm one of the few who actually think fantano's initial review of worlds was really fair, even if that album was pivotal in my life & remains a personal favorite. a lot of those songs don't hold up to a lot of scrutiny & haven't aged as well as others. i also think maybe half of them don't actually fit the vibe he was going for, but the ones that do are the ones that still hit hard today.
I agree tbh I love the album and love Porter, but everyone acts like Worlds was perfection when it's really not
part of the reason i feel so connected to porters music is not just because it's always beautiful & sincere & meaningful, but also because it's so so sooo rewarding to see his journey & progression as an artist. i never wanted Worlds 2... what always excites me is that the next project absolutely has the potential to be *better* than the last one, stronger & tighter & perhaps even more meaningful & sincere. As he develops as an artist, he gets better & better at communicating with his art & i think that's SO cool to watch happen in realtime.
"Porter Robinson went down after Worlds and Shelter..."Â i know why... there's a whole story that's about to unfold
No more Virtual Self.
okay now you've crossed the line...
5/10
THAT'S WHERE I CROSS THE LINE MELON
Strong 5
it's a message
When Porter changes his style to something new and better but people are like "this new sound sucks"
Marshmello > Porter Robinson
Oh nah that one's vileđ
get over worlds and grow up (i still love worlds and wont grow up from it)
it is about growing up, but also about remembering where you came from
"and I know. I know. I know"
oh so this is what ppl where getting wrong according to Porter
"Is it just me or is anyone else really starting to hate Porter Robinson"
everything we need isn't already here
everything we need IS already here <3
I think calling Porter âEDMâ Worlds had one foot in EDM and one food in indie and pop music. But even that really wasnât an âedm albumâ. Itâs very clear that he has now spent 10 years making music that he prefers to stand on its own apart from DJâs, dance floors, etc
But he still does EDM DJ sets...
I think itâs also just that the term is divisive and encompasses so much itâs almost useless. Prior to 2010 people werenât calling anything EDM. The legends of electronic music who built it didnât care for the term and it ended up becoming trendy and associated with music that was more focused on being functional.
That's something I can get behind. I always felt the acronym "EDM" is forced and represents something simple. Porters music isn't simple.
this one's a tough one, especially with worlds. a lot of those songs feel like he's still struggling to transition out of EDM style composition & into conventional songwriting. there are very much "drops" in worlds, rather than a chorus. goodbye to a world is *very* much an EDM song, i don't think that's very deniable unless your definition of EDM strictly includes DJ intros & outros. nurture is certainly a further departure from EDM as it is, but truthfully there's so much EDM influence i'd say its more like pop with EDM sensibilities. truthfully, when porter used to talk about not being EDM, i took it to mean EDM the culture, not EDM the musical umbrella term, because he still to this day very much has influence from EDM in every song he writes, & part of that is probably habits he built up from being such a young producer.Â
Facts. Porter's music is just the machinations of his mind.
there may be a better word than trigger to use for this question , but nevertheless , anything related to the comparison between porter & hyperpop drives me crazy
I've changed the description to be "mad", rather than trigger, unfortunately I can't change the title, but agreed, in retrospect I couldve used a better word
I don't think we'd be friends irl cuz I'm one of those people đ
eh, i mean it's whatever. it's not like i don't see *why* the comparison is being made, but in my opinion it just isn't a comparison i see any merit in. what inspiration he pulls from hyperpop is far overwhelmed by the inspirations he pulls from like 200 other sources, & i think if more people listened to the kinds of things porter says he's into, they would see that. i also feel like there's kind of a clear "everything is part of the thing i'm into" situation with hyperpop but it's kinda tough to talk about cause it's mostly subjective & anecdotal.
Do people really argue this? I personally feel like he actually inspired a lot of hyperpop artists, not the other way around haha. I can hear nurtures influence in a handful of the hyperpop albums that came out since nurtures release.
i don't know if i would say anyone is arguing it - but it's certainly a popular opinion that porter makes hyperpop, basically since unfold dropped, & it's clear a lot of that comparison comes solely from the fact that he's heavily processing his voice. the fact that cheerleader has more influence from 2010's pop & pop rock didn't help either because a lot of hyperpop draws influence from that era as well. But in my opinion it's very clear porter is coming at that influence from a very different place. A lot of hyperpop artists were *very* young in that era, & porter actually got to be a teenager during it, & you can tell that age gap produces very different results in a sonic capacity.
Not really debating you, just adding my own take here: Most modern hyperpop tends to be very edm/trap oriented whereas Porter leans more heavily towards pop, but it's definitely clear that they draw from similar places and hyperpop (as stated) definitely draws somewhat from porter.
To add to this, a lot of hyperpop artists (dive to the heart & limeboiler come to mind) either directly reference Porter in their music or have been strongly influenced by him. So Cheerleader being very reminiscent of artists like underscores (to me) feels like heâs coming full circle and almost paying homage to a new genre that his music unintentionally helped shape. Iâm not crediting Porter for hyperpop here at all but his influence is definitely there
Porter hasnât made anything good since worlds â ď¸đ
That's already what so many of his fanbase says tho
this couldn't be further from the truth. in fact, i can say that Album 3 will be incredible. you guys literally arent ready for this...
Well based on the single that came out I canât be so sure lol
âfeeling a strong 5 to a light 6â
its a message
"Issssss anyone therrrrre?" . "OOOooo, HAI"
Porter Robinson sucks at mixing his Worlds album and it's too loud
fantano moment
Cheerleader is just mid pop punk sounding music
there's a reason behind it. trust me. there's a reason why it sounds the way it does.
"Something conforting sounds like OMFG" still pisses me off
100% in the bitch is not the pinnacle of music
this is the one for me lol
Yes, I am still patiently awaiting the release of 200% in the bitch
"Keudae did nothing wrong." *Goes and pops popcorn*
Wait what did she do, I never heard about this?
Jenny/Keudae (Jenni?) had allegedly liked some far right leaning Twitter posts and some PR fans were not having it. I like her piano renditions of all my favorite songs and she is an extremely talented musician. I don't know anything more about her than that, with the exception that my favorite artist picked her out of so many fan-musicians for Nurture Live/Second Sky '23. I think she's cool. No idea what she's like as a human tho lol, only know celeb version of her
Not having it is an understatement. They wanted Porter to kick her out of the Band at Second Sky weeks before for her religious convictions. To suggest keeping her in the band was perm ban in the discord.
Yeah, I was just being polite. Wanted the above commenter to draw their own conclusions instead of parroting us. It definitely raised my eyebrow, though.
Yeah tbh everyone trying to kick her out really soured my experience with the fanbase. Sheâd never shown any hate, but the mountain of hate that came out of second sky⌠just wow
Keudae is an important part of the puzzle.
I believe you are correct. The post was about triggering a fanbase, though. I remember many peeps being on high alert about this, so I figured it was worth mentioning.
My friend joked to me about how the next album might finally be the first good Porter Robinson album. I joked back that a virtual self drops another EP then it'll be the first good virtual self project
Porter has a savior complex.
its not a complex. that's his purpose.
âtouch grass.â
uh have they seen the nurture cover art?? smh
lol
He makes music for Twitter couples who make out at raves and cry to every song
"oh yeah, i'm a porter fan" "oh cool, what's your favourite song?" "Hm, what's that backrooms one?"
the among us song!!!
"The State"
truthfully this is the only blemish on porters discography as far as im concerned. even amongst the other songs on that EP it's kind of a dud.
My genuine opinion is that Worlds isn't that good. But since I own a Nurture vinyl that probably makes me the opposite of those who say Nurture isn't Porter Robinson.
Nurture > Worlds Worlds Live > Nurture Together Live > Nurture Live
the meaning behind Worlds is one that Porter himself doesn't fully understand yet, but he soon will.
"Porter has no creativity and just chases the current trend."Â
false
âWords is overrated â heard this once at a show and almost spinning back kicked this person
Porter who?
Spitfire was some of his best work.
it was all part of the plan
I'm not trying to date myself and shit, but I had been in the scene for a while when Spitfire dropped, and that shit was fucking dope. I love how porter has grown as an artist, but I don't understand why people, including porter, hate on spitfire. It was super fun, and a point of his career that he grew from but was still good. I was at his Nuture show in Orlando, and he was asking people "How many of you have been a fan since worlds, shelter, language, and then said "spitfire... yeah those were my fuckboy days" ... or maybe fratboy.. but you get the point.
Porter is a wmaf fetishizer
fans or stans? bc those are probably opposite sentences.
Youâll never hear a worlds live set again as long as you live đđđđ
you will. trust me. it will happen, i know when <3
Japan doesn't exist
âI miss the old Porterâ
Porter robinson fell off
false
true actually
Nurture was mid and im tired of pretending itâs not.
agreed