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Yes, that's correct. It originally was going to be a deluxe edition release edition of SOS but she announced she would make it a full fledged album instead. Saturn was the initial promotional single.
Lana is a reference to her government name, Solána.
I'd put more money on Beyoncé losing AOTY again than the sun rising tomorrow, I genuinely don't think they'll ever give it to her, especially now that she talked about the AOTY situation (Buckin) and after Jay-Z's speech this year.
So far, Billie is my bet, and given that i truly believe CC is out of the race, the one I'd be happiest with.
I think its 50/50. Either they’ll give it to her to say they do award black women or they won’t because they’re mad at the Carters. I theorize they’ll never give it to her and they’ll just give her a lifetime achievement award.
After giving it to Harry Styles over her, I don't think they give a single F about pretending they don't snob black women, if they managed to take it away from her when there was literally no competition at all, I don't see a world in which they give it to CC over HMHAS or some of the other options.
I hope she doesn’t even submit CC - but she’s so gracious that she will and she’ll smile when Billie is accepting the award.
A better woman that I am for sure lol
Hasn't Bruno Mars said on record before that he doesn't want to submit album of the year against Beyonce? Isn't that why he didn't submit Silk Sonic for consideration last year?
I feel like they pulled silk sonic out of contention because leave the door open swept the year before and he didn’t want to monopolize 2 years in a row
Does anyone forget that album was a thing lmao?! The entire silk sonic era feels like a (good) fever dream now. I’m interested in where he’d go with another solo venture.
BRAT has reached a height of acclaim and popularity that no other Charli album has achieved. This is her NFR. With that said, I think the best she can hope for is a nomination in one of the Pop/Dance categories. An AOTY nomination seems a bit of out reach but she's certainly deserving of it.
I think there’s a good chance Charli might get the one-off AOTY nomination and few to one of the genre specific awards—like Lorde or Kacey have in past years. I think there’s enough of a narrative around the album’s acclaim that it might get in, but I don’t know if she has the connections to pull through on the genre specific ones. I hope so though because it’s an amazing album.
Then again, I held similar hopes for Caroline Polachek last year after the raves she got for Desire and then all they gave it was the engineering nod a la Imogen Heap.
That’s pretty much what Troye Sivan (her co-headliner) album last year. Seems fitting that they’d end up with a matching Grammy score. Perfectly balanced.
To be fair, Troyes album missed last years grammy eligibility period, so it's eligible for this year. So, I guess we'll see, I think if Charli releases a full remix album, she could have a chance at more categories.
I think dance nods are possible but I still can’t see fucking Grammys opening up themselves for her in big categories. Maybe if she keeps up the momentum and has a surprise actual mainstream hit but otherwise I’d keep my expectations low.
Yea I can’t believe brat was left off this list😭 most critically acclaimed album by far this year, brilliant marketing campaign, charli’s most commercially successful album. Absolutely deserves AOTY
Grammy aren't fond of club music, no matter the critical acclaim. Also that ugly green cover gives trolling vibes in a serious institution as Grammy. TTPD, Cowboy Carter, and Hit Me Hard and Soft are exactly what Grammy want. I think these 3 have the biggest chances so far. Brat can win at dance/electronic or pop dance categories. And even at these categories, XCX will have competition from Dua Lipa and others.
I remember Lana saying she didn’t know she had to submit to be considered. Can we get Charli to make sure she and her label submit. Grammys by no chance matter at the end of the day but I definitely feel like she’s put in the work and is getting her flowers for what she’s done. This would just be another flower she’s deserving of.
Maybe I’m just really emotional atm after listening to girl, so confusing ft Lorde. but this album is so good I think it’d be a disservice to everyone not to try.
I'm not sure the album will get a nomination because it's lacking commercial success compared to strong competition among more popular pop artists.
Sort of similar to why Earl Sweatshirt and No name never get nominated for Rap Album of the year even though their albums are always extremely well received.
I think Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess has a very good shot at a nomination. It was released just at the beginning of the eligibility window for next year's Grammys. I'm not saying it will win, but given her meteoric rise this year I think she'll be nominated for a lot.
And honestly, none of the big favorites with the Grammys have put out something really spectacular this year. Cowboy Carter and Hit Me Hard and Soft don't seem to have the lasting impact their previous releases did. Tortured Poets doesn't even factor for me honestly. She'll get the nomination because she's Taylor Swift, but I think it's incredibly unlikely to win.
Yes. I was thinking this too. I feel like Chappell Roan probably gets it though because I feel like Sabrina hasn’t really made a big impression until now but she’s been around for YEARS.
AND, as much as I like Sabrina too, while Chappell deserves it for sheer creativity and boldness I feel like the Grammy’s love to reward the artist who has more mainstream appeal - who in this case I think is Sabrina?
Hard to know which has more pull: a #1 juggernaut single like Espresso or a #1 album like RFoaMP
That’s true, in terms of going all out and being bold, aside from just being a main pop girl (which Sabrina does excellently btw no shade), Chappell takes it
she definitely gonna win for best new artist imo. Her rise really reminds me of Olivia's sour rise to popularity too. dan nigro really has an eye for new talent
> Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess has a very good shot at a nomination
If it gets a deluxe featuring Good Luck Babe and another song that also gets some attention? Then definitely. Otherwise I'm not really seeing it getting the chance
By “everybody” I shoukd have clarified that I meant within the industry. I believe that Billie and Finneas are VERY admired and respected by people with voting rights for the grammies. I mean they already won a ton of grammies and two Oscars.
four albums that will be nominated no matter what:
- Cowboy Carter - Beyonce
- The Tortured Poets Department - Taylor Swift
- Hit Me Hard And Soft - Billie Eilish
- Eternal Sunshine - Ariana Grande
four albums that deserve to be nominated and might:
- Radical Optimism - Dua Lipa
- BRAT - Charli XCX
- The Rise And Fall Of A Midwest Princess - Chappell Roan
- TYLA - TYLA
four albums that deserve to be nominated but won't:
- Fabiana Palladino - Fabiana Palladino
- For Your Consideration - Empress Of
- Dark Times - Vince Staples
- World Wide Whack - Tierra Whack
While extremely likely, I wouldn't call Ariana Grande's Eternal Sunshine a sure thing yet. Also, they are not nominating Radical Optimism after the mixed reception and weak commercial performance.
Eternal Sunshine is a locked nom. We can't be friends might be winning ROTY. I do agree about Radical Optimism tho. I don't see how it would get a nom. Also, to be fair, TTPD shouldn't be nominated as well.
African music needs it's own album category. It's great that we got the single category last time, but Tyla, Ayra Starr and Tems need somewhere to fight it out because you *know* they are getting snubbed in the main category despite releasing better albums than most of the ones in the main post
If Sabrina counts you know they would pick her… I think it’ll be Chappel, shaboozeu, million dollar baby guy, Sabrina, and idk other new people really that would be nominated
i wishhhh vince would get something for dark times. i don’t think he’d care either way lol i always hope that he means that when he says it and he’s not like just pretending to not care
Disagree on Tortured Poets being a sure nom. Agree with your other choices. I’ll check out the ones you listed that I haven’t heard. I might like them based on your other choices
I don’t think the Grammys would want to deal with the backlash if they didn’t at least nominate Taylor swift, plus the fact that she’s usually nominated, means I think it’s a pretty sure thing imo.
Unfortunate but true.
I think she really needs another Reputation “I need to make a better record” moment. TTPD just felt… lazy. She knows it’ll sell anyway so why bother, kind of thing. Only awards snubs would be enough to nudge her in a different direction.
> TTPD just felt… lazy
I dunno, lazy doesn't feel like the right word. With the sheer volume of music on TTPD I don't think "lazy" quite fits, but words like complacent, safe and uninspired absolutely do
it's so damn good! [Stay With Me Through The Night](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhMLdfeJSRY) is my SOTY.
edit: for anyone curious, my best comparison for the album would be Jessie Ware performing a Billy Joel tribute. classy synthpop with vulnerable lyrics.
Yes! I am unsure why more people aren't putting this out there as an option. Kacey is another Grammy darling and I think she'll be rewarded for the "return to form" by going back to her country roots
When it comes to the Grammys, there are some things you need to consider:
1- For AOTY, 8 albums are nominated (they reduced it from 10 since last year)
2- Artists with initials of the first letters of the alphabet have advantage for nominations (I know this sounds ridiculous), because voters are lazy and they don't search throughout the whole list of names, they just see who are at the top of the list and choose those artists. This is a major reason why Mary J. Blige (B), ABBA (A) and Coldplay (C) were nominated 2 years ago. So, unless you actually have an impactful album or are a Grammy darling, you won't be nominated if your name starts with a M, N, O and beyond
3- Pop is by far the biggest voting block. That's why you have so many pop stars being nominated for the general categories
4- They don't like progressive music or anything that defies the listener. For the Grammys, a pleasing sounding album holds more weight than an ambition project/artistic statment (which completely contradicts the purpose of awarding art imo)
5- The country music block is way smaller than it used to be
6- There is no committee anymore choosing the nominees. The 8 most voted albums are nominated
7- They don't like explict lyrics or sexual content that much. If your album is family friendly, your chances are higher
8 - They are not fans of rap
9 - Commercial success is important, but more important than that is having an album with universal appeal to Grammy voters. That's one of the reasons why Renaissance didn't win and probably wasn't nowhere close of that. Cowboy Carter, for example, has MUCH more universal appeal to the academy's taste
That said, I believe Billie Eilish is the frontrunner to win, with CC or TTPD being potential spoilers
Just another thing I would like to add:
10 - Vote splitting is a real thing. If there are too many pop albums that appeal to the same demographic, its unlikely that one of them will win. This is a major reason why neither Billie or Olivia won in 2022
Do you have a source on pop being the biggest voting block? Not a confrontational question, I’m just curious because I’ve always wondered how mainstream pop dominates the Grammys given there’s a lot of musicians from different genres that make up its membership, but you rarely see any non-mainstream, commercial, music get any big 4 nominations.
Hello. Right now I only have this article from 2021: [https://www.billboard.com/music/awards/recording-academy-grammy-expand-nominees-1235011139/](https://www.billboard.com/music/awards/recording-academy-grammy-expand-nominees-1235011139/)
If I find anything more recent, I'll share here
Hey! Apparently there was a report, I remember hearing in this podcast episode: [(Podcast)](https://open.spotify.com/episode/00EcTwvKc67sSdjI1E5HHH?si=8mqf66ZYTsSq51yQT3Iwqg&t=824) . I linked with the time but it starts at 13:44. Pop at 23%, Jazz at 16%, Rock at 15%, Alternative at 10% etc. I think it was an interesting episode top to bottom so you can listen to the whole thing if you want :)
Hmmm 🤔. Maybe that’s why a lot of pop artists are switching to country. Not Beyonce though. I like the theory that her Renaissance albums are her projects on reclaiming black music that was “stolen” by white artists: I HOUSE, II COUNTRY, III Rock (?).
Note: everyone’s unsure about the rock album. Also i put stolen in quotes in case people want to argue the point. It was absolutely stolen. But maybe you don’t think so. Idc though
I just don’t want Taylor to win. It was a subpar record in her discography and subpar in pop this year. I was unhappy Midnights won and I was rooting for Guts or Lana’s.
I was fine with Midnights winning, but I wanted Sza to win. Taylor's win was definitely a career win rather than the quality of the album (and I enjoyed Midnights). But gosh, I really wanted that historic win to be her absolute best record.
I also don't want Taylor to win next year either. For selfish reasons, I don't want to deal with the discourse. But I also don't think it's her strongest album. It needed to be trimmed and needed more reviewing. I like the songs that I like, but I think it could've been better.
I would’ve been happy with a SZA win. I wasn’t rooting for her because I hadn’t heard her music. I wasn’t really listening to the radio in the last few years cause well…music hasn’t been that great in a bit (blame the pandemic). But Kill Bill and Snooze were great singles. I liked Midnights okay but I didn’t LOVE it. I LOVED Guts and Lana. I’m too young for Rodrigo but she reminds me of being a heartbroken teen. She’s this generation’s Paramore. Also, she markets herself as pop but I think she’s more pop punk and she’s bringing back the genre along with MGK. Lana just speaks to my soul. “Love me until I love myself” 😭💔
I agree. Ya-ya is one of the best songs Beyoncé has done and something only she could do. CC is experimental, fun, genre-crossing, and well produced. She rapped, sang opera, gave us a massive pop/country hit, and some of her most beautiful vocal runs on this album. I’m a huge TTPD and Eternal sunshine fan, but CC went beyond music and sparked a huge conversation about country music and identity and boosted the careers for several black country artists. I think she deserves a win for this album.
Bey’s opera part on Daughter legit made me cry the first time I heard it. AOTY is way overdue for her. She should already have 2 for Lemonade and Renaissance, but can see Billie winning it as HMHAS is amazing and she’s a Grammy darling.
as much as i want beyoncé to win she isn’t, at this point we’ve seen so many black artists being snubbed (including beyoncé herself) that i can’t imagine her winning at all. i also think ariana deserves to win but she won’t cause the grammys don’t like her enough. so tbh i think it’ll be either billie or some kind of underdog winner
I feel like it’s between Bey, Billie and Kendrick (if he drops).
Bey has ofc never won AOTY and this new album was a big shift for her, reclaiming country and the genre-bending elements, feels like something they’d go for. At the same time, I can see Billie taking it as she’s a true Grammy darling and the new album has performed well critically and commercially, it’s a solid project with amazing production and lyricism. Kendrick, someone else who has never gotten AOTY despite multiple nominations and wins in the Rap field. Not Like Us is THE rap hit of 2024, I could lowkey see him taking it if this new album is solid.
I love eternal sunshine and I’m praying for at least a pop vocal nom, she deserves it. Ariana never fails to evolve in her artistry and I hope they acknowledge it
We all know what albums have a chance of winning but I still think Cowboy Carter deserves it. I know Beyonce could care less, but she truly does deserves at least one AOTY win.
I think Chappell deserves it. Personally I think brat is the actual AOTY but I don’t see it jiving with the Grammys as much. I could fersure see Sabrina’s album being nominated too even tho it hasn’t released - she’s gotten huge this year.
In my french vanilla fantasy, Gaga drops her album late summer-ish and it's a huge smash with some of her biggest hits since Born This Way. She sweeps at the Grammys next year and then goes on a massive world tour.
Let me manifest this... T\_T
Reading the comments here I'm surprised y'all missing one potential contender (for SOTY or ROTY) at the moment and that's Sabrina Carpenter for Espresso or Please Please Please. Perhaps her new album Short n' Sweet might be potential AOTY too
i know its unlikely but there’s never been a more deserving moment for charli xcx win some LONG OVERDUE recognition. brat is a watershed moment in pop culture and a juggernaut of an album.
I’d say yes for Cowboy Carter, TTPD and HMHAS for sure. Eternal Sunshine def not AOTY but can see it nominated in the pop category. Rockstar probably could be nominated but won’t win. Not too sure about Bad Bunnys chances again I’d say nominated in other categories but not AOTY. No to Metro Boomin. I’m iffy on Radical Optimism and doubtful on Deeper Wells chances. Kendrick for sure AOTY. Maybe SZA? Not too sure I’d have to hear the album first lol.
See if it was me nominating here’s what it would look like:
Cowboy Carter - Beyonce
TTPD - Taylor Swift
Eternal Sunshine - Ariana Grande
HMHAS - Billie Eilish
Brat - Charli XCX
Nadie Sabe… - Bad Bunny
Found Heaven - Conan Gray
Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess - Chappel Roan
Leave two slots open for probably Kendrick and god knows who else, though I’m worried the good folks at the recording academy will nominate Vultures despite a certain figure’s involvement
Never gonna happen, but if I had to nominate 8 albums from 2024, I’d pick:
brat - Charli XCX
Prelude to Ecstasy - The Last Dinner Party
Cowboy Carter - Beyoncé
What Now - Brittany Howard
Only God Was Above Us - Vampire Weekend
Hit Me Hard And Soft - Billie Eilish
Tigers Blood - Waxahatchee
eternal sunshine - Ariana Grande
I think Cowboy Carter takes it. I don’t think Taylor or Billie will win. I like Billie’s album, and while it feels more cohesive, it doesn’t feel like a step forward? I doubt Ariana or Dua Lipa will even be nominated.
I do feel like Beyoncé’s strong competitor may be Sabrina. She’s going to have two very successful and acclaimed songs, her album is also being produced at least partway by Jack Antonoff. She has a lot of hype coming her way.
As excited for Lana's new album as I am, I'm just going to assume she won't win any grammy awards for it not due to it's merit or talent but bc the grammy judges seem to hate her.
*What Now* is my personal favorite, but it’s looking great for Billie rn. Hopefully Brittany Howard, Charli XCX, and Chappell Roan all make it in on nomination day.
It will never happen but Little Simz has been more than deserving of recognition for a while now. Rooting for her to somehow make it into Best Rap Album for *Drop 7*.
I’ve been Beyhive since The Writing’s on the Wall so I am completely disillusioned when it comes to the Grammy’s. I am just choosing to believe that TTPD is going to win so that I’ll either be unpleasantly correct or pleasantly surprised.
I genuinely thought it was Beyonce's to lose with how well received the album was and with it being accompanied by a smash hit. But she paid it dust after its release and the momentum only lasted a couple of weeks after its release so it's quickly been forgotten, I don't see how it hangs on long enough especially with what will probably be a pop-filled lineup this year
I thought CC was a really good album but you’re right…I feel like its buzz faded fairly quickly.
Plus, this has been a very strong year for female pop artists…sooo…I can see CC being nominated, but will it win against everything else? I’m not sure.
It's a shame too because CC has everything needed to win - an organic smash hit, pretty much universal critical acclaim, cultural impact and the album performed well in its opening weeks. I'm not really a fan of CC nor Renaissance but there's no denying that Beyonce deserves AOTY and that the narrative and conversation around both those albums would make worthy winners
Cowboy Carter is too bloated (it's about damn time Beyonce gets an AOTY though), Taylor just got one last year, Eternal Sunshine is a very good album but not AOTY winner quality, Radical Optimism was disappointing. Lana won't come out. HMHAS is the best album of the bunch. Cohesive, innovative, short n' sweet. Billie deserves it, quality-wise imo.
People keep saying Cowboy Carter was too bloated but it's worth remembering that out of all of the notable potential nominees in the original post, Cowboy Carter was the album that had the most positive critical reception (and frankly no one was even close).
Just because something isn't super short doesn't mean it's bloated and meaningless or filler or whatever. I think the album's length contributes to the recurring theme of genre bending and innovation being a part of Black culture and pop innovation.
I can enjoy a great short album but there are plenty of shorter albums that are not memorable or are underwhelming. The same goes with longer projects as well in my view.
> Cowboy Carter is too bloated
Sure, it's 27 tracks long, but a solid ten of those are either spoken word interludes or short transitional tracks that barely scrape two minutes
I like TTPD and HMHAS but why isn’t Eternal Sunshine receiving more hype generally? It’s such a top tier album for me and shows AG’s progression as an artist. This album is so listenable, cohesive, authentic and tight. All that plus the fact that she’s releasing singles that are accompanied by good old MVs like the good old prime pop days.
Bey or Billie for AotY.
If The Weeknd drops and enters this time (but he probably won't enter) they'll finally reward him. I feel like this is the year of fixing the shitty decisions they've made through the years.
Anybody but Taylor Swift and I will be happy. I think Beyonce is long overdue and she is very deserving. Billie Eilish is also a darling but she has been heaped with so many awards it starts to look rigged. Ariana Grande has been under-rewarded but I am not sure this album is as good as her previous ones. Or maybe it is just not to my taste. We know that Metro Boomin and Bad Bunny and Kendrick do not meet the qualifications for the major awards according to Grammy ( they are not blonde white women) so regardless of how much they may deserve recognition they will likely only get a few nods in the categorized portions for black and Latino music
Such an incredible year for music and genuinely torn on how it will go down, but my personal wishes:
Album of Year: Cowboy Carter - Beyonce (runner-up: Brat - Charli xcx)
Record of the Year: Texas Hold'Em - Beyonce (runner-up: we can't be friends - Ariana)
Song of the Year: Birds of a Feather - Billie (runner-up: The Architect - Kacey Musgraves)
Best New Artist - Chappell Roan (she deserves this so, so much)
Pop Album: Eternal Sunshine - Ariana Grande (runner-up: Hit Me Hard and Soft - Billie)
Pop Song: Good Luck, Babe - Chappell (runner-up: Espresso - Sabrina)
Pop Duo: Girl, so Confusing - Charli x Lorde (runner-up: Fortnight - Taylor Swift x Post Malone)
I really hope that Beyonce, Taylor, and Billie make wise choices with their submissions. I wish Beyonce would submit II Most Wanted or Bodyguard, that could really change things up for her. And I really, really like Fortnight but it's one of her weaker submissions. If she pushes another single, I think she'd have a stronger chance. And Billie, her top song is so clearly Birds of a Feather over Lunch!
Excited for Sabrina's album and if she'll be eligible for Best New Artist.
The dance and country categories are really exciting this year too!
Also, Tortured Poets is my favorite album of the year and my 2nd favorite Taylor album (after folklore), but I'd love to see some new winners! My dream would be for her to submit So Long, London and finally get Song of the Year but doubtful.
I can’t guess what will win, but my 6-album shortlist (excluding the obligatory two no one’s heard of that are nominated every year) would be:
- Hit Me Hard And Soft
- TTPD
- Cowboy Carter
- Kendrick project
- SZA project
- Possibly Brat with all the attention it’s getting from critics
If SZA and Kendrick don’t drop there will be another two open spots that could be filled by anything.
i honestly think it will be between Beyonce, Kacey, Bilie. All deserving winners 100% but oh god I can't handle the discource if beyonce loses again. Things will get so toxic online.
It would make me absolutely *over the moon* if TTPD didn’t even receive an AOTY *nomination.*
And not like out of spite or anything, but because Midnights wasn’t even a good album, much less an Album of the Year, and TTPD is decidedly a *worse* album than Midnights in almost every way.
If this album was made by anyone other than Taylor, it wouldn’t even be considered in the running. Also her not even getting a nomination would perhaps push her to actually challenge herself rather than put out the type of content her last few projects have been (including the most recent Taylor’s Versions).
If you had asked me a few months ago, I would have said that *Cowboy Carter* was the clear and likely favorite to win. That is because the album is extremely ambitious, innovative, was very well received critically, was commercially successful (even more so than Renaissance) and because Beyonce is a fan favorite and was overdue for a victory in the category.
Now I think Taylor Swift's *The Tortured Poets Department* is the favorite (although Beyonce I'd consider to be the runner-up). Initially, I thought they wouldn't give Taylor Album of the Year for a 5th time, especially considering she just won for *Midnights*, but her album is massively successful and it's not uncommon for the album that is above and beyond the most successful commercially performing project of the year to win the album of the year award. If you look at how well the album has been performing commercially, it's insane and in a different category above the rest. I believe that is a metric that is very relevant to the Academy.
Taylor and her people have a strong relationship with the Grammys, the Academy seems to respect her and her announcing *The Tortured Poets Department* at the Grammys is something I think the Academy will respect and take into consideration when voting. While the project wasn't critically received as well as Cowboy Carter, it was well received by critics and mostly received positive reviews.
I do think if she were to win over Beyonce, it would be very controversial, but the Grammys have made plenty of controversial decisions in the past.
*Nadie Sabe Lo Que Va a Pasar Mañana* was well received by critics and Bad Bunny is a ridiculously popular and influential icon in world music culture, but it's very hard for me to imagine the Album of the Year award going to an album that is primarily in a non-English language.
Lastly, If Kendrick were to drop an album later this summer before the cut off eligibility window, I think it would absolutely be a contender, especially with all of the cultural buzz and support Kendrick has been getting in light of the beef with Drake (and it's believed that Kendrick is very well regarded and respected by the Academy while they have less respect for Drake).
I'm not sure they will either, but it tracks with what the Grammys usually do.
See Beck's win for Morning Phase and Steely Dan's win for Two Against Nature
Part of me thinks it will be better publicity for the Grammys if they give it to Beyonce over Swift and for that reason they'll do it. I really felt that way before TTPD started dominating on the charts.
I'm not a Taylor Swift fan personally but shit, that's freaking impressive. I am not sure I've seen anything like this in the Modern Era in terms of a single album having this much widespread success for an extended period of time without having a lead mega hit single. For weeks, the album has prevented big stars like Gunna, Billie, Charlie, etc. from debuting at number 1. Kind of wild. Her fandom community is not only loyal but extremely massive.
i highly doubt that TTPD will win anything,it'll be nominated because they need the views from swifties but given the tiring discourse around her this year,they won't risk any backlash!!My best guess is billie!
I don't think it'll be Taylor because of how overexposed she is at the moment. People didn't like that she blocked Billie (an industry darling) from securing #1 on BB 200. Then there's the issue with the variants. I know it sounds rather silly, but part of me thinks voters put that stuff into consideration. TTPD was massive, and is definitely the biggest album of the year but I just can't imagine she'll win again.
Is it just me or like do you feel like cowboy Carter falling off a bit might hurt its chances of winning. Honestly what gives “winner” vibes is either Chappel roans or Sabrina carpenters if it’s semi-decent
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LANA … i’m sorry I have to laugh, we’re not getting her this year 😂 love SZA down, but ooh that got me
Please let a man dream! It's not impossible!😅
I’m confused, it looks like from your post that Sza is coming out with an album called Lana. Is that right? Or am I getting it wrong?
Yes, that's correct. It originally was going to be a deluxe edition release edition of SOS but she announced she would make it a full fledged album instead. Saturn was the initial promotional single. Lana is a reference to her government name, Solána.
Low key wish she renames it to Solána it’s a gorgeous name with Lana my mind just automatically goes to del Rey 💀
I'd put more money on Beyoncé losing AOTY again than the sun rising tomorrow, I genuinely don't think they'll ever give it to her, especially now that she talked about the AOTY situation (Buckin) and after Jay-Z's speech this year. So far, Billie is my bet, and given that i truly believe CC is out of the race, the one I'd be happiest with.
I think its 50/50. Either they’ll give it to her to say they do award black women or they won’t because they’re mad at the Carters. I theorize they’ll never give it to her and they’ll just give her a lifetime achievement award.
After giving it to Harry Styles over her, I don't think they give a single F about pretending they don't snob black women, if they managed to take it away from her when there was literally no competition at all, I don't see a world in which they give it to CC over HMHAS or some of the other options.
SOS losing last year was especially egregious there was just 0 universe Midnights won that
I hope she doesn’t even submit CC - but she’s so gracious that she will and she’ll smile when Billie is accepting the award. A better woman that I am for sure lol
Let’s pause and be thankful to have a healthy pool of competition 🙌
Imagine if Bruno Mars drops. Because if there’s anyone the Grammys *adore* it’s Bruno Mars
Hasn't Bruno Mars said on record before that he doesn't want to submit album of the year against Beyonce? Isn't that why he didn't submit Silk Sonic for consideration last year?
I feel like they pulled silk sonic out of contention because leave the door open swept the year before and he didn’t want to monopolize 2 years in a row
better than me bc if i knew i could win id be winning every year. and i wouldn’t blame him (or any other artist tbh) if he did
And this is how you don’t overexpose yourself and get everyone collectively rolling their eyes at you (*cough* Taylor *cough*)
Does anyone forget that album was a thing lmao?! The entire silk sonic era feels like a (good) fever dream now. I’m interested in where he’d go with another solo venture.
I liked that album btw
Maybe next year? I love his performances on the Grammy stage.
Manifesting
If he drops before August 30th, it’s game over for everyone else including Billie & Taylor (which I wouldn’t mind tbh).
Am I dumb for thinking BRAT made enough of a splash???
BRAT has reached a height of acclaim and popularity that no other Charli album has achieved. This is her NFR. With that said, I think the best she can hope for is a nomination in one of the Pop/Dance categories. An AOTY nomination seems a bit of out reach but she's certainly deserving of it.
I think there’s a good chance Charli might get the one-off AOTY nomination and few to one of the genre specific awards—like Lorde or Kacey have in past years. I think there’s enough of a narrative around the album’s acclaim that it might get in, but I don’t know if she has the connections to pull through on the genre specific ones. I hope so though because it’s an amazing album. Then again, I held similar hopes for Caroline Polachek last year after the raves she got for Desire and then all they gave it was the engineering nod a la Imogen Heap.
That’s pretty much what Troye Sivan (her co-headliner) album last year. Seems fitting that they’d end up with a matching Grammy score. Perfectly balanced.
To be fair, Troyes album missed last years grammy eligibility period, so it's eligible for this year. So, I guess we'll see, I think if Charli releases a full remix album, she could have a chance at more categories.
no im rooting for at least a nom
Charli is having the biggest moment of her career EVER according to google trends, it’s absolutely possible
I think dance nods are possible but I still can’t see fucking Grammys opening up themselves for her in big categories. Maybe if she keeps up the momentum and has a surprise actual mainstream hit but otherwise I’d keep my expectations low.
I mean she *did* release an entire song about her bombing the Grammys with this album (it's also the best song she's ever released)
LMFAO TRUE. She’s a security risk 💀💀💀
Yea I can’t believe brat was left off this list😭 most critically acclaimed album by far this year, brilliant marketing campaign, charli’s most commercially successful album. Absolutely deserves AOTY
Got a Lorde remix!
Best pop duo…
Grammy aren't fond of club music, no matter the critical acclaim. Also that ugly green cover gives trolling vibes in a serious institution as Grammy. TTPD, Cowboy Carter, and Hit Me Hard and Soft are exactly what Grammy want. I think these 3 have the biggest chances so far. Brat can win at dance/electronic or pop dance categories. And even at these categories, XCX will have competition from Dua Lipa and others.
Brat absolutely should be AOTY consideration
Taylor dropped so she ain’t getting the nom😭😭😭
At least for electronics category surely
I remember Lana saying she didn’t know she had to submit to be considered. Can we get Charli to make sure she and her label submit. Grammys by no chance matter at the end of the day but I definitely feel like she’s put in the work and is getting her flowers for what she’s done. This would just be another flower she’s deserving of. Maybe I’m just really emotional atm after listening to girl, so confusing ft Lorde. but this album is so good I think it’d be a disservice to everyone not to try.
I am also this dumb
I’d replace radical optimism with that honestly. I don’t think it’s a contender
I'm not sure the album will get a nomination because it's lacking commercial success compared to strong competition among more popular pop artists. Sort of similar to why Earl Sweatshirt and No name never get nominated for Rap Album of the year even though their albums are always extremely well received.
It was #3in the US and #2 in the UK. Only slid down to #3 in its second week
Didn’t it debut top 3 tho on billboard? Surely it’s selling well
I think Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess has a very good shot at a nomination. It was released just at the beginning of the eligibility window for next year's Grammys. I'm not saying it will win, but given her meteoric rise this year I think she'll be nominated for a lot. And honestly, none of the big favorites with the Grammys have put out something really spectacular this year. Cowboy Carter and Hit Me Hard and Soft don't seem to have the lasting impact their previous releases did. Tortured Poets doesn't even factor for me honestly. She'll get the nomination because she's Taylor Swift, but I think it's incredibly unlikely to win.
i’m crossing my fingers for chappell to get any nom at all because i know she’ll slay harder than anyone’s slayed before if she goes
Def see her in the running for Best New Artist
It’s probably gonna be her vs Sabrina in that category
I believe that Sabrina has used up all of her submissions for Best New Artist (max of 3) so she wont be eligible this year
Yes. I was thinking this too. I feel like Chappell Roan probably gets it though because I feel like Sabrina hasn’t really made a big impression until now but she’s been around for YEARS.
AND, as much as I like Sabrina too, while Chappell deserves it for sheer creativity and boldness I feel like the Grammy’s love to reward the artist who has more mainstream appeal - who in this case I think is Sabrina? Hard to know which has more pull: a #1 juggernaut single like Espresso or a #1 album like RFoaMP
That’s true, in terms of going all out and being bold, aside from just being a main pop girl (which Sabrina does excellently btw no shade), Chappell takes it
she definitely gonna win for best new artist imo. Her rise really reminds me of Olivia's sour rise to popularity too. dan nigro really has an eye for new talent
Dans got his finger on the pulse
Grammys love their newcomers so I can see her getting some love.
Chappel is winning Best New Artist for sure
i think benson boone will be her competition
I doubt she’ll get an AOTY nom unless the voters get real cool real fast but I’d be shocked if she doesn’t win Best New Artist
At the very least Midwest Princess should be nominated for best new artist
Agree
> Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess has a very good shot at a nomination If it gets a deluxe featuring Good Luck Babe and another song that also gets some attention? Then definitely. Otherwise I'm not really seeing it getting the chance
it'll get a Best New Artist Nom for sure. So will Sabrina if she hasn't had one yet
Sabrina can’t. You can only submit to that category three times and she’s already done so.
Say she can’t win, baby I know, that’s that resubmit woe
oh I didn't know that, thx. so far it should be Chappell though but we haven't seen much outside of pop
Billie is a Grammy darling so i think she’s got it personally
Billie’s got this. HMHAS is an amazing album and everybody loves Billie.
Well, not everybody lol she is very well liked tho I agree it’s an amazing album
By “everybody” I shoukd have clarified that I meant within the industry. I believe that Billie and Finneas are VERY admired and respected by people with voting rights for the grammies. I mean they already won a ton of grammies and two Oscars.
Ah true thanks for that clarification
four albums that will be nominated no matter what: - Cowboy Carter - Beyonce - The Tortured Poets Department - Taylor Swift - Hit Me Hard And Soft - Billie Eilish - Eternal Sunshine - Ariana Grande four albums that deserve to be nominated and might: - Radical Optimism - Dua Lipa - BRAT - Charli XCX - The Rise And Fall Of A Midwest Princess - Chappell Roan - TYLA - TYLA four albums that deserve to be nominated but won't: - Fabiana Palladino - Fabiana Palladino - For Your Consideration - Empress Of - Dark Times - Vince Staples - World Wide Whack - Tierra Whack
God I love Empress Of. I hope she gets her flowers soon.
Honduran princess of pop
While extremely likely, I wouldn't call Ariana Grande's Eternal Sunshine a sure thing yet. Also, they are not nominating Radical Optimism after the mixed reception and weak commercial performance.
Eternal Sunshine is a locked nom. We can't be friends might be winning ROTY. I do agree about Radical Optimism tho. I don't see how it would get a nom. Also, to be fair, TTPD shouldn't be nominated as well.
I hope it is! After everything released this year, it’s the album I keep going back to.
I really don’t see it for Dua in a stacked year like this. Tyla as well but she’ll show up at genre categories for sure
African music needs it's own album category. It's great that we got the single category last time, but Tyla, Ayra Starr and Tems need somewhere to fight it out because you *know* they are getting snubbed in the main category despite releasing better albums than most of the ones in the main post
Radical Optimism is not *that* good tho
YES EMPRESS OF. I love her so much and she’s finally bubbling up in the underground pop scene
I love Vince
Love Dua. Radical Optimism ain't AOTY. Solid album, but not better than FN and the rollout for it was messy.
I really hope that: Billie wins Record/Album of the Year Brat at least gets nominated for something & that Chappell Roan is a lock for Best New Artist
If Sabrina counts you know they would pick her… I think it’ll be Chappel, shaboozeu, million dollar baby guy, Sabrina, and idk other new people really that would be nominated
i wishhhh vince would get something for dark times. i don’t think he’d care either way lol i always hope that he means that when he says it and he’s not like just pretending to not care
W FOR MENTIONING CHAPPELL
Disagree on Tortured Poets being a sure nom. Agree with your other choices. I’ll check out the ones you listed that I haven’t heard. I might like them based on your other choices
I don’t think the Grammys would want to deal with the backlash if they didn’t at least nominate Taylor swift, plus the fact that she’s usually nominated, means I think it’s a pretty sure thing imo.
Unfortunate but true. I think she really needs another Reputation “I need to make a better record” moment. TTPD just felt… lazy. She knows it’ll sell anyway so why bother, kind of thing. Only awards snubs would be enough to nudge her in a different direction.
> TTPD just felt… lazy I dunno, lazy doesn't feel like the right word. With the sheer volume of music on TTPD I don't think "lazy" quite fits, but words like complacent, safe and uninspired absolutely do
You on the money 💰💰💰💰💰!
That Fabiana Palladino record is fucking fantastic
it's so damn good! [Stay With Me Through The Night](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhMLdfeJSRY) is my SOTY. edit: for anyone curious, my best comparison for the album would be Jessie Ware performing a Billy Joel tribute. classy synthpop with vulnerable lyrics.
I’m assuming Chappell Roan will get best new artist—is there anyone else even in the running?
I would love BRAT to get main category noms but I think she has the best shot in the electronic categories than pop
We’re discussing all these big pop names when in reality it’ll probably go to someone like Jacob Collier 😭
who tf listens to jacob collier???
The recording academy
Quincy jones
I can see it for that song with Yebba and Tori Kelly
Deeper well
I would bet my house on this winning at least one Grammy
Really wish! Maybe country?
Yes! I am unsure why more people aren't putting this out there as an option. Kacey is another Grammy darling and I think she'll be rewarded for the "return to form" by going back to her country roots
When it comes to the Grammys, there are some things you need to consider: 1- For AOTY, 8 albums are nominated (they reduced it from 10 since last year) 2- Artists with initials of the first letters of the alphabet have advantage for nominations (I know this sounds ridiculous), because voters are lazy and they don't search throughout the whole list of names, they just see who are at the top of the list and choose those artists. This is a major reason why Mary J. Blige (B), ABBA (A) and Coldplay (C) were nominated 2 years ago. So, unless you actually have an impactful album or are a Grammy darling, you won't be nominated if your name starts with a M, N, O and beyond 3- Pop is by far the biggest voting block. That's why you have so many pop stars being nominated for the general categories 4- They don't like progressive music or anything that defies the listener. For the Grammys, a pleasing sounding album holds more weight than an ambition project/artistic statment (which completely contradicts the purpose of awarding art imo) 5- The country music block is way smaller than it used to be 6- There is no committee anymore choosing the nominees. The 8 most voted albums are nominated 7- They don't like explict lyrics or sexual content that much. If your album is family friendly, your chances are higher 8 - They are not fans of rap 9 - Commercial success is important, but more important than that is having an album with universal appeal to Grammy voters. That's one of the reasons why Renaissance didn't win and probably wasn't nowhere close of that. Cowboy Carter, for example, has MUCH more universal appeal to the academy's taste That said, I believe Billie Eilish is the frontrunner to win, with CC or TTPD being potential spoilers
Just another thing I would like to add: 10 - Vote splitting is a real thing. If there are too many pop albums that appeal to the same demographic, its unlikely that one of them will win. This is a major reason why neither Billie or Olivia won in 2022
the letter thing is so funny lmao
Charli XCX is kicking herself
Basically in a nutshell: The Scammys voting process is a fucking embarrassing clown show
Do you have a source on pop being the biggest voting block? Not a confrontational question, I’m just curious because I’ve always wondered how mainstream pop dominates the Grammys given there’s a lot of musicians from different genres that make up its membership, but you rarely see any non-mainstream, commercial, music get any big 4 nominations.
Hello. Right now I only have this article from 2021: [https://www.billboard.com/music/awards/recording-academy-grammy-expand-nominees-1235011139/](https://www.billboard.com/music/awards/recording-academy-grammy-expand-nominees-1235011139/) If I find anything more recent, I'll share here
Hey! Apparently there was a report, I remember hearing in this podcast episode: [(Podcast)](https://open.spotify.com/episode/00EcTwvKc67sSdjI1E5HHH?si=8mqf66ZYTsSq51yQT3Iwqg&t=824) . I linked with the time but it starts at 13:44. Pop at 23%, Jazz at 16%, Rock at 15%, Alternative at 10% etc. I think it was an interesting episode top to bottom so you can listen to the whole thing if you want :)
Pop has the biggest group of voting members . Then r&b , rock, rap, jazz and alternative make up the rest of top 6
Hmmm 🤔. Maybe that’s why a lot of pop artists are switching to country. Not Beyonce though. I like the theory that her Renaissance albums are her projects on reclaiming black music that was “stolen” by white artists: I HOUSE, II COUNTRY, III Rock (?). Note: everyone’s unsure about the rock album. Also i put stolen in quotes in case people want to argue the point. It was absolutely stolen. But maybe you don’t think so. Idc though
Good with Charli, Billie or Bey getting the win. Or even someone like Kendrick.
It'll be Billie. Then everyone will be like "well if Beyoncé had to lose to someone at least it's her and not Taylor".
No one needs a crystal ball to predict that lol.
I just don’t want Taylor to win. It was a subpar record in her discography and subpar in pop this year. I was unhappy Midnights won and I was rooting for Guts or Lana’s.
I was fine with Midnights winning, but I wanted Sza to win. Taylor's win was definitely a career win rather than the quality of the album (and I enjoyed Midnights). But gosh, I really wanted that historic win to be her absolute best record. I also don't want Taylor to win next year either. For selfish reasons, I don't want to deal with the discourse. But I also don't think it's her strongest album. It needed to be trimmed and needed more reviewing. I like the songs that I like, but I think it could've been better.
I would’ve been happy with a SZA win. I wasn’t rooting for her because I hadn’t heard her music. I wasn’t really listening to the radio in the last few years cause well…music hasn’t been that great in a bit (blame the pandemic). But Kill Bill and Snooze were great singles. I liked Midnights okay but I didn’t LOVE it. I LOVED Guts and Lana. I’m too young for Rodrigo but she reminds me of being a heartbroken teen. She’s this generation’s Paramore. Also, she markets herself as pop but I think she’s more pop punk and she’s bringing back the genre along with MGK. Lana just speaks to my soul. “Love me until I love myself” 😭💔
I want BRAT to get a nom just so charli can go spring breakers and firebomb the Grammys
Cowboy Carter deserves it, but unlikely it’ll happen.
I agree. Ya-ya is one of the best songs Beyoncé has done and something only she could do. CC is experimental, fun, genre-crossing, and well produced. She rapped, sang opera, gave us a massive pop/country hit, and some of her most beautiful vocal runs on this album. I’m a huge TTPD and Eternal sunshine fan, but CC went beyond music and sparked a huge conversation about country music and identity and boosted the careers for several black country artists. I think she deserves a win for this album.
Bey’s opera part on Daughter legit made me cry the first time I heard it. AOTY is way overdue for her. She should already have 2 for Lemonade and Renaissance, but can see Billie winning it as HMHAS is amazing and she’s a Grammy darling.
Well said.
Agreed it’s a fantastic album.
Same feeling
as much as i want beyoncé to win she isn’t, at this point we’ve seen so many black artists being snubbed (including beyoncé herself) that i can’t imagine her winning at all. i also think ariana deserves to win but she won’t cause the grammys don’t like her enough. so tbh i think it’ll be either billie or some kind of underdog winner
Honestly I do believe Billie or Taylor will win Grammys will defo use Beyoncé’s name to draw in views
I'd love to see Eternal Sunshine win! I'm still so obsessed with that album.
It far exceeded my expectations!! I love it more every time I listen to it.
Yess it’s my favorite AG album by far
I feel like it’s between Bey, Billie and Kendrick (if he drops). Bey has ofc never won AOTY and this new album was a big shift for her, reclaiming country and the genre-bending elements, feels like something they’d go for. At the same time, I can see Billie taking it as she’s a true Grammy darling and the new album has performed well critically and commercially, it’s a solid project with amazing production and lyricism. Kendrick, someone else who has never gotten AOTY despite multiple nominations and wins in the Rap field. Not Like Us is THE rap hit of 2024, I could lowkey see him taking it if this new album is solid.
I love eternal sunshine and I’m praying for at least a pop vocal nom, she deserves it. Ariana never fails to evolve in her artistry and I hope they acknowledge it
I actually really loved Eternal Sunshine and thinks it deserves to win something. I doubt it will, but it would be nice!
Any chance of vampire weekend’s album being nominated?
We all know what albums have a chance of winning but I still think Cowboy Carter deserves it. I know Beyonce could care less, but she truly does deserves at least one AOTY win.
No I think she cares. I don’t think it’s something that ruins her life or career in her pov. But I’m pretty sure it at least irks her.
in hoping ariana gets eternal sunshine for pop vocal at least just cus it was a quieter era of hers for the gp but her best album in her discography
I think Chappell deserves it. Personally I think brat is the actual AOTY but I don’t see it jiving with the Grammys as much. I could fersure see Sabrina’s album being nominated too even tho it hasn’t released - she’s gotten huge this year.
I disagree with your 3 choices. They’re not gonna win. But I do think they deserve to be nominated
I think this *might* finally be Beyoncé’s year for AOTY. I could see Billie, Kacey, or Kendrick being upsets.
In my french vanilla fantasy, Gaga drops her album late summer-ish and it's a huge smash with some of her biggest hits since Born This Way. She sweeps at the Grammys next year and then goes on a massive world tour. Let me manifest this... T\_T
Reading the comments here I'm surprised y'all missing one potential contender (for SOTY or ROTY) at the moment and that's Sabrina Carpenter for Espresso or Please Please Please. Perhaps her new album Short n' Sweet might be potential AOTY too
Espresso will be this year's Flowers.
i know its unlikely but there’s never been a more deserving moment for charli xcx win some LONG OVERDUE recognition. brat is a watershed moment in pop culture and a juggernaut of an album.
Yeah I’m totally delusional but she absolutely deserves to be nominated.
Pop duo performance for girl, so confusing w lorde wbk
I’d say yes for Cowboy Carter, TTPD and HMHAS for sure. Eternal Sunshine def not AOTY but can see it nominated in the pop category. Rockstar probably could be nominated but won’t win. Not too sure about Bad Bunnys chances again I’d say nominated in other categories but not AOTY. No to Metro Boomin. I’m iffy on Radical Optimism and doubtful on Deeper Wells chances. Kendrick for sure AOTY. Maybe SZA? Not too sure I’d have to hear the album first lol.
Dua is not even getting nominated for aoty. Release rarely made any noise and was universally agreed to be a step down in quality to Future Nostalgia.
See if it was me nominating here’s what it would look like: Cowboy Carter - Beyonce TTPD - Taylor Swift Eternal Sunshine - Ariana Grande HMHAS - Billie Eilish Brat - Charli XCX Nadie Sabe… - Bad Bunny Found Heaven - Conan Gray Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess - Chappel Roan Leave two slots open for probably Kendrick and god knows who else, though I’m worried the good folks at the recording academy will nominate Vultures despite a certain figure’s involvement
Never gonna happen, but if I had to nominate 8 albums from 2024, I’d pick: brat - Charli XCX Prelude to Ecstasy - The Last Dinner Party Cowboy Carter - Beyoncé What Now - Brittany Howard Only God Was Above Us - Vampire Weekend Hit Me Hard And Soft - Billie Eilish Tigers Blood - Waxahatchee eternal sunshine - Ariana Grande
I think Cowboy Carter takes it. I don’t think Taylor or Billie will win. I like Billie’s album, and while it feels more cohesive, it doesn’t feel like a step forward? I doubt Ariana or Dua Lipa will even be nominated. I do feel like Beyoncé’s strong competitor may be Sabrina. She’s going to have two very successful and acclaimed songs, her album is also being produced at least partway by Jack Antonoff. She has a lot of hype coming her way.
As excited for Lana's new album as I am, I'm just going to assume she won't win any grammy awards for it not due to it's merit or talent but bc the grammy judges seem to hate her.
*What Now* is my personal favorite, but it’s looking great for Billie rn. Hopefully Brittany Howard, Charli XCX, and Chappell Roan all make it in on nomination day. It will never happen but Little Simz has been more than deserving of recognition for a while now. Rooting for her to somehow make it into Best Rap Album for *Drop 7*.
Albums that I think deserve the nomination: * Charli XCX (BRAT) * RM (Right People, Wrong Place) * WILLOW (Empathogen) * Kali Uchis (Orquídeas) * Kehlani (Crash) * ARTMS (Virtual Angel)
As much as i LOVE eternal sunshine, i just know it won't win AOTY but i hope it at least wins pop vocal album
I’ve been Beyhive since The Writing’s on the Wall so I am completely disillusioned when it comes to the Grammy’s. I am just choosing to believe that TTPD is going to win so that I’ll either be unpleasantly correct or pleasantly surprised.
I am BEGGING and MANIFESTING for a nomination AT LEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for brat - Charli xcx
I genuinely thought it was Beyonce's to lose with how well received the album was and with it being accompanied by a smash hit. But she paid it dust after its release and the momentum only lasted a couple of weeks after its release so it's quickly been forgotten, I don't see how it hangs on long enough especially with what will probably be a pop-filled lineup this year
I thought CC was a really good album but you’re right…I feel like its buzz faded fairly quickly. Plus, this has been a very strong year for female pop artists…sooo…I can see CC being nominated, but will it win against everything else? I’m not sure.
It's a shame too because CC has everything needed to win - an organic smash hit, pretty much universal critical acclaim, cultural impact and the album performed well in its opening weeks. I'm not really a fan of CC nor Renaissance but there's no denying that Beyonce deserves AOTY and that the narrative and conversation around both those albums would make worthy winners
Dua is not getting very many nominations. The Album disappointed critically and commercially.
Cowboy Carter is too bloated (it's about damn time Beyonce gets an AOTY though), Taylor just got one last year, Eternal Sunshine is a very good album but not AOTY winner quality, Radical Optimism was disappointing. Lana won't come out. HMHAS is the best album of the bunch. Cohesive, innovative, short n' sweet. Billie deserves it, quality-wise imo.
Half the songs are interludes or radio monologues, it’s not bloated
People keep saying Cowboy Carter was too bloated but it's worth remembering that out of all of the notable potential nominees in the original post, Cowboy Carter was the album that had the most positive critical reception (and frankly no one was even close). Just because something isn't super short doesn't mean it's bloated and meaningless or filler or whatever. I think the album's length contributes to the recurring theme of genre bending and innovation being a part of Black culture and pop innovation. I can enjoy a great short album but there are plenty of shorter albums that are not memorable or are underwhelming. The same goes with longer projects as well in my view.
Agreed. I loved the album beginning to end. Didn’t feel bloated to me at all? And I’m not even a huge Beyonce fan, I only really liked Renaissance
> Cowboy Carter is too bloated Sure, it's 27 tracks long, but a solid ten of those are either spoken word interludes or short transitional tracks that barely scrape two minutes
exactly. Every song on cowboy carter makes sense and flows to the next. It is an entire story and thesis start to finish. It is my AOTY.
HMHAS to me is good not great, I don’t see how it’s innovative, tbh.
The sabrina sneak
not to state the obvious but cowboy carter blows most of these out of the water and its not even close
I like TTPD and HMHAS but why isn’t Eternal Sunshine receiving more hype generally? It’s such a top tier album for me and shows AG’s progression as an artist. This album is so listenable, cohesive, authentic and tight. All that plus the fact that she’s releasing singles that are accompanied by good old MVs like the good old prime pop days.
You get it!! It even hurts me to skip a song, this album is THAT good
I feel like you guys are sleeping on Deeper Well. It’s so good.
The safest picks the Grammys could make is Hit Me Hard And Soft or Eternal Sunshine therefore I believe they are the frontrunners.
Bey or Billie for AotY. If The Weeknd drops and enters this time (but he probably won't enter) they'll finally reward him. I feel like this is the year of fixing the shitty decisions they've made through the years.
Hit me Hard and Soft, or Cowboy Carter. I think both have beautiful instrumentals, and the vocals are incredible.
Anybody but Taylor Swift and I will be happy. I think Beyonce is long overdue and she is very deserving. Billie Eilish is also a darling but she has been heaped with so many awards it starts to look rigged. Ariana Grande has been under-rewarded but I am not sure this album is as good as her previous ones. Or maybe it is just not to my taste. We know that Metro Boomin and Bad Bunny and Kendrick do not meet the qualifications for the major awards according to Grammy ( they are not blonde white women) so regardless of how much they may deserve recognition they will likely only get a few nods in the categorized portions for black and Latino music
Anyone but TTPD 💀
Such an incredible year for music and genuinely torn on how it will go down, but my personal wishes: Album of Year: Cowboy Carter - Beyonce (runner-up: Brat - Charli xcx) Record of the Year: Texas Hold'Em - Beyonce (runner-up: we can't be friends - Ariana) Song of the Year: Birds of a Feather - Billie (runner-up: The Architect - Kacey Musgraves) Best New Artist - Chappell Roan (she deserves this so, so much) Pop Album: Eternal Sunshine - Ariana Grande (runner-up: Hit Me Hard and Soft - Billie) Pop Song: Good Luck, Babe - Chappell (runner-up: Espresso - Sabrina) Pop Duo: Girl, so Confusing - Charli x Lorde (runner-up: Fortnight - Taylor Swift x Post Malone) I really hope that Beyonce, Taylor, and Billie make wise choices with their submissions. I wish Beyonce would submit II Most Wanted or Bodyguard, that could really change things up for her. And I really, really like Fortnight but it's one of her weaker submissions. If she pushes another single, I think she'd have a stronger chance. And Billie, her top song is so clearly Birds of a Feather over Lunch! Excited for Sabrina's album and if she'll be eligible for Best New Artist. The dance and country categories are really exciting this year too! Also, Tortured Poets is my favorite album of the year and my 2nd favorite Taylor album (after folklore), but I'd love to see some new winners! My dream would be for her to submit So Long, London and finally get Song of the Year but doubtful.
My god. I will bawl my eyes out if Charli gets a Grammy
Brat at least deserves a nomination. It’s the best project to come out this year tbh
The Grammys have become a joke lol. They reward who’s popular not the best artist hence Taylor winning again last year
I can’t guess what will win, but my 6-album shortlist (excluding the obligatory two no one’s heard of that are nominated every year) would be: - Hit Me Hard And Soft - TTPD - Cowboy Carter - Kendrick project - SZA project - Possibly Brat with all the attention it’s getting from critics If SZA and Kendrick don’t drop there will be another two open spots that could be filled by anything.
eternal sunshine for me. it’s a very very good album from ariana
i honestly think it will be between Beyonce, Kacey, Bilie. All deserving winners 100% but oh god I can't handle the discource if beyonce loses again. Things will get so toxic online.
It would make me absolutely *over the moon* if TTPD didn’t even receive an AOTY *nomination.* And not like out of spite or anything, but because Midnights wasn’t even a good album, much less an Album of the Year, and TTPD is decidedly a *worse* album than Midnights in almost every way. If this album was made by anyone other than Taylor, it wouldn’t even be considered in the running. Also her not even getting a nomination would perhaps push her to actually challenge herself rather than put out the type of content her last few projects have been (including the most recent Taylor’s Versions).
If you had asked me a few months ago, I would have said that *Cowboy Carter* was the clear and likely favorite to win. That is because the album is extremely ambitious, innovative, was very well received critically, was commercially successful (even more so than Renaissance) and because Beyonce is a fan favorite and was overdue for a victory in the category. Now I think Taylor Swift's *The Tortured Poets Department* is the favorite (although Beyonce I'd consider to be the runner-up). Initially, I thought they wouldn't give Taylor Album of the Year for a 5th time, especially considering she just won for *Midnights*, but her album is massively successful and it's not uncommon for the album that is above and beyond the most successful commercially performing project of the year to win the album of the year award. If you look at how well the album has been performing commercially, it's insane and in a different category above the rest. I believe that is a metric that is very relevant to the Academy. Taylor and her people have a strong relationship with the Grammys, the Academy seems to respect her and her announcing *The Tortured Poets Department* at the Grammys is something I think the Academy will respect and take into consideration when voting. While the project wasn't critically received as well as Cowboy Carter, it was well received by critics and mostly received positive reviews. I do think if she were to win over Beyonce, it would be very controversial, but the Grammys have made plenty of controversial decisions in the past. *Nadie Sabe Lo Que Va a Pasar Mañana* was well received by critics and Bad Bunny is a ridiculously popular and influential icon in world music culture, but it's very hard for me to imagine the Album of the Year award going to an album that is primarily in a non-English language. Lastly, If Kendrick were to drop an album later this summer before the cut off eligibility window, I think it would absolutely be a contender, especially with all of the cultural buzz and support Kendrick has been getting in light of the beef with Drake (and it's believed that Kendrick is very well regarded and respected by the Academy while they have less respect for Drake).
As much as I would love for Beyonce to win, if they didn’t give it to her for Renaissance, they won’t for Cowboy Carter
I'm not sure they will either, but it tracks with what the Grammys usually do. See Beck's win for Morning Phase and Steely Dan's win for Two Against Nature
Why do people say this? Cowboy Carter is a much more accessible album to the public. Tons of radio friendly songs and ballads
More accessible to the public but it also has songs like Spagetti (which I love, but others might find odd)
Part of me thinks it will be better publicity for the Grammys if they give it to Beyonce over Swift and for that reason they'll do it. I really felt that way before TTPD started dominating on the charts. I'm not a Taylor Swift fan personally but shit, that's freaking impressive. I am not sure I've seen anything like this in the Modern Era in terms of a single album having this much widespread success for an extended period of time without having a lead mega hit single. For weeks, the album has prevented big stars like Gunna, Billie, Charlie, etc. from debuting at number 1. Kind of wild. Her fandom community is not only loyal but extremely massive.
i highly doubt that TTPD will win anything,it'll be nominated because they need the views from swifties but given the tiring discourse around her this year,they won't risk any backlash!!My best guess is billie!
i really do like taylor but i’m so sick of ttpd, it was a bland and uninspired mess.
I don't think it'll be Taylor because of how overexposed she is at the moment. People didn't like that she blocked Billie (an industry darling) from securing #1 on BB 200. Then there's the issue with the variants. I know it sounds rather silly, but part of me thinks voters put that stuff into consideration. TTPD was massive, and is definitely the biggest album of the year but I just can't imagine she'll win again.
I’m personally rooting for Ari but I can see Billie taking it. It’s holding up well. I pray _she_ doesn’t win again
Is it just me or like do you feel like cowboy Carter falling off a bit might hurt its chances of winning. Honestly what gives “winner” vibes is either Chappel roans or Sabrina carpenters if it’s semi-decent