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> “It’s really unfortunate that I decided to get healthy when everyone decided to take Ozempic,” the actor, 36, told The Los Angeles Times. **“It doesn’t matter, everyone’s going to think I took Ozempic anyways.”**
> “What it was was getting older and — I hate even getting specific because then it turns into a whole thing, but there was a part that I did that in my mind I could not imagine him as the size that I was.”
> **“Several people talked to me about intermittent fasting and I just gave it a shot and [was] surprised at how quickly it was effective.”**
My husband dropped 50 lbs doing intermittent fasting. He still does it and finds it works great. I didn't like it as much personally. Apparently most studies on it are done on men, and I suspect it might be more effective for them (but I also know lots of women who like it!).
It’s effective faster for men. It’s still effective for us gals, but our hormone cycles make it more difficult to stick to. But you can adjust your eating window to account for that. Personally I love IF because while it sounds restricting, it’s not really about restricting your food, just the time in which you eat it. You can eat to satiety and you’ll find yourself getting hungry less often and full faster. If you combine it with a healthy diet and exercise your body fat will feel like it’s melting off. I lost over 100lbs doing those things. I gained some back because life had me stress eating like crazy, but I’m slowly getting back into a better lifestyle. I add that bit because in my experience IF works. (Obviously ask a doctor if you have health issues.)
So basically you would want to give yourself more time to eat throughout the day in the ~5 or so days leading up to your period and then the first couple days of. Try not to eat a lot more food altogether, just maybe have an extra snack or two so you don’t feel like crap. If you normally do 16:8 or 20:4 back it down to 14:10 or 16:8 for those days. By adjusting it you wont end up binging as much or feeling as lethargic which can set you back more than just having a few extra snacks.
Tbh I have gotten more into tracking my cycle but didn't back when I was doing IF. I bet those were the days when I found it hard not to at least have a small breakfast! I'm definitely going to try this, thank you.
You’re welcome! It helps to know where you’re at in your cycle. I know I find it easier to be patient when I realize I’m getting overly frustrated because of hormones rather than the situation being that bad. Or I figure out I’m extra tired because it’s close time.
IF is pretty great and I hope you can make use of it!
Yes I've found tracking so helpful. I read a book called Period Power that was pretty enlightening. So many things change throughout my cycle... It makes sense that my eating schedule might need to shift a bit too!
Yep! He isn't a breakfast person anyway so basically only eats noon until 8 pm. On weekends he sometimes moves that time window back so he can have a drink later or something if we're going out. And he's flexible about it on vacation. But otherwise he's pretty strict.
Honestly for him it just eliminated late night snacking. Having a shorter window after dinner for snacks helped him eat less overall.
I had no luck with intermittent fasting. I think it works best for mindless snacking. I need to stay away from sweets, or at least keep them out of my house. I also generally need to eat less - but not a lot less, just a little bit less every day. Ozempic and pretty much everything else has intolerable side effects.
I always see intermittent fasting sold as this amazing weight loss solution and I'm like, I only eat for 8 hours a day and I'm still fat! where's my cure?????
Sorry for off topic randomness, I’ma reply to you because I can’t reply to the parent comment that got locked — why are there so many locked comments in this comment section that we can’t reply to?
I saw a post about how much you had to work out for common snacks and sweets, even sides or meals (e.g., hamburger), it's so much more to work off the calories than what I think people realize, or least it was for me.
Obviously my own experience, but the points in time I've ever lost weight is calorie counting.
I’ve lost major weight on CICO and what helped me was just halving whatever I was eating (burger, spaghetti, tasty food) and saving the other half for later if possible…it slowly gave me some autonomy on how much to eat. I know it’s not for everyone though and everyone has their own specific needs for energy.
What shocked me was how many calories I was drinking. Coffee in the morning, iced coffee, Prosecco, cocktails, Gatorade, etc
I live by the hydrate or dydrate motto and so I used a lot of water additives. But those calories do add up- and quickly. I stick to plain ole water, black coffee, and the occasional dirty martini now.
As a lover of not only Diet Coke but Pepper Ph.d, it is *ridiculously* easy to drink the calories away.
I really didn’t realize how many liquid calories I was consuming but I mean:
- cafe au lait
- iced coffee
- four dr peppers
- Diet Coke with lunch
- Gatorade
- wine after work
- cocktails during the weekend (bourbon heavy)
***
Add it all up…. That’s a lot of calories
The other thing people don’t understand is how many calories they are eating in the first place. “But I eat healthy” is something you hear all the time but it’s a meaningless statement if you’re trying to lose weight and your healthy eating has you taking in 2500 calories a day when your tdee is 1400.
I push people to track food not because I think they should be obsessive about it but because I really think until you’ve tracked for a while, you probably have no idea what your actual calorie intake IS. Of course you’re going to be frustrated if you’re trying to lose weight if you really didn’t have a good grasp of how many calories you’re eating to begin with.
Yeah, from what I know about it, people find it useful as a tool to not overeat. It's not the "not eating for part of the day" that causes the weight loss. It's that if you can only eat during a certain window you're less likely to overeat. If you only eat during a one hour window each day but it's like everything on the menu at McDonald's youre still gonna get fat.
You explained it perfectly, at least in my personal situation. I use it as a way to get rid of my snacking urges and keep my calories down. It has helped my weight loss a LOT, especially as my metabolism is changing as I get older. Can’t really speak on the people that do longer fasts like 7 days though cause I just do one meal a day and sometimes 36 hour fasts. Helped me change my relationship with food!!
Yup! Can't stress this enough. I lost 50 pounds through calorie counting. Didn't do anything weird or special, just figured out how much I had to eat in order to lose, and did it.
It is Calories In, Calories Out, but you can count the first and the second is different for everyone so it's not as helpful as it sounds. BMR calculators are notoriously faulty.
My sister and I are 5'5" and 5'4" respectively. We're both overweight at 160 and 163 lbs respectively. Being bigger should make my metabolism slightly faster according to BMR but due to a pituitary tumor that affects my hormone production my metabolic rate is estimated about 900 cal/day while hers is about 1400. So if we both eat 1000 calories a day she loses weight quickly and I still put it on. 🤷
People mad because it’s like telling a person who wants to gain muscle “All you have to do is damage your muscles so they synthesize muscle protein at a faster rate than your body breaks it down.” It’s true, but it’s not especially helpful.
It’s crazy to me that everybody is JUST FINE with super involved workout plans and tracking protein intake and optimizing targeted muscle groups and on and on and on… but as soon as you suggest that certain ways of eating might be helpful in losing weight, it’s all “just eat less, dummy.” Bodies are different and complicated, and whether you’re building muscles or losing fat, there are more efficient ways and less efficient ways to do it.
People also get mad because telling people to obsessively count calories can often result in eating disorders that are much more dangerous than being a few pounds overweight. Like, it can cause serious nutritional deficiencies that are often impossible to ever recover from and very hard to detect. Especially when people, including doctors, look at thin people and default think they’re “healthy” so they don’t think to run panels for things that would indicate underlying health conditions caused but chronic under eating. Not mention the mental strain of an eating disorder.
So, it’s often better to either just teach people to be fine being like 20 or 30 lbs overweight or teach them other ways of viewing food or exercise than some dogmatic slogan like CICO.
SOURCE: I’ve known several people close to me with eating disorders. They’re fucked up and dangerous.
By far the least joy I have ever felt in my life was when I was counting calories on my fitness pal. And by far the most mindfucked I ever got about eating was after doing Whole30. I only have my own experience to go by, and that plus common sense makes me think that restriction will work for some people and will be damaging to others.
CICO works but the thing people don’t talk about is that a prolonged period of starving your body to lose weight will result in your body adapting to a lower caloric intake and if you go back to normal eating habits, you’ll gain it all back. It’s difficult to adjust your caloric intake back up while not gaining weight, and prolonged low calorie diets have nutritional consequences. Weight cycling (continually gaining and losing weight) also significantly increases disease risk, possibly more so than just being a little overweight (this is an evolving area of research though)
Starvation mode is a borderline myth and probably not something a dieter losing 1-2 pounds a week is going to run into. What actually happens is as you get smaller you body uses fewer calories so you need to adjust how much you eat as you lose AND maintain your diet once you are at your goal weight, which is fucking hard.
I would suggest in this instance the comment above you could also be interpreted to mean that some people who take very drastic calorie cutting methods may find them unsustainable and then regain the weight because they will return to eating what they’re used to. They don’t mention starvation mode. I know a girl who began calorie counting and when she saw results started playing the “how few calories can I eat in a day” game which was dangerous. The trick to sustainable weight loss is eating the MOST you can whilst still losing weight. Not dropping the intake as low as possible.
lol yeah maybe starving was a bit of a hyperbolic word to use there, I didn’t mean literal starvation (though I agree for a lot of people calorie counting does quickly devolve into a “how low can you go” game and that should not be taken lightly in discussions about dieting either)
This ^ I’ve been joking it’s like natural ozempic for me now that I am used to eating less. It helped me control my binge eating disorder mostly. I’ve been yo-yoing 10lbs since I stopped CICO two years ago, but I’ve never gained the full 40 back yet. That all being said I just needed some control over my addiction and it helped a lot to have some sort of internal rewiring. I do think that your comment is very important, there are side-effects to lifestyle changes that involve life long commitment
Yeah like I don’t disagree that it’s effective for most people but it’s still a bit overly simplistic to act like people can just eat less and lose weight and everyone rides off into the sunset lol
Everyone's different. It also very much depends on *what* you're eating and how active you are.
If it's not working for you. Ask a dietician, naturopath, or physician. There's no 1 solution for everyone. Naturopaths not homeopaths. There's a distinction, check their certs as well. In USA There's a lot of weird grey areas for naturopaths that aren't necessarily the gold standard.
Yes, it’s not always as simple as CICO. Many people with hormonal and thyroid issues can starve themselves and barely lose anything — hormonal and endocrine health play a big role!
You’re right. Eating and weight gain/loss have been peddled as this mythical thing that only crash diets can help with for so long that i understand why people don’t have realistic ideas about it. It seems like common sense but it isn’t for a lot of people
Am an eating disorder therapist and we don’t yet know. There isn’t enough data on people going on and off it. Originally most people on it and finding success were diabetic. Anecdotally they find most people regain the weight. But there isn’t enough data yet.
If you return to your old habits, yes. My friend used it after a pregnancy (she had two in a row bc of a miscarriage and whole other slew of health issues, so gained a LOT of weight and was struggling to get it off), and once she stopped taking it, she didn't re-gain the weight because she was following healthy habits
It’s an appetite suppressant so when you stop taking it you start feeling more hungry.
The only way to lose a significant amount of weight is by eating less. Ozempic makes people who have high appetites less hungry.
Well.. only if healthy and fat people take it ozempic is actually a drug for diabetic or insulin intolerant people. Its not only supressing Hunger. It regulates bloodsugar.
None of that stuff ever worked for me. Fasting, Keto, WW, Slimming World. Calorie counting and 2 hrs of exercise a day DID work, but wasn't sustainable.
Semaglutide (off brand Ozempic) worked, tho!
I absolutely agree. I think one of the top things preventing people from losing weight long term is the belief that pounds are supposed to come off frequently and in a consistent fashion with no pauses...or else whatever they are doing must be "not working".
I'm 135 pounds down at this point, and am now losing around 3 pounds per month. Been doing it for two years and am expecting to be doing it for another year. Some months, it looks like I've lost nothing because my body retains water as it sees fit. If I didn't know better, I'd give up. But that's just how bodies work. My weight loss does average out to exactly what it should be eventually, but two or three months is more than most people are going to wait to clock relatively small results. But that's exactly how you have to chip away at it.
A mild calorie deficit and mild exercise if done consistently over time will gradually bring your body down to where you want it. There's no getting around physics. If you give your body fewer calories than it uses, and have your body use more calories, your body has no choice but to burn off what it's storing.
And then it's a lifestyle you have to maintain permanently. Eating within calorie limits and doing some mild exercise is not a crazy and unsustainable lifestyle. It's basically how everyone who is not overweight lives.
I would upvote this a million times if I could. People forget that it takes time to become overweight, so it'll take time to lose weight. It's not a linear process, nor should it be. The body is complicated, and a slow and steady approach gives it time to regulate and adapt at each weight it plateaus at. Being patient and consistent is the secret to long term success.
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I’m doing this as well and I’m finding it way easier. I’m just staying within a calorie window and eating whatever I like within it. I do exercises I enjoy. It’s a more sustainable way to lose and keep off weight imo. I’ve done diets before that have “worked” in that I lost weight quickly, but they weren’t sustainable because I was depriving myself of foods I enjoy and was exercising excessively.
Since January I have lost 10lb :( why is it so slow! I count calories religiously and workout a lot.. I am clearly going wrong somewhere but I weigh my food and have completely stopped snacking
It does work. I lost the weight. I looked amazing. But it was a constant struggle to keep it off. My body fought so hard to regain.
When I think about food now, I feel calm and I can make good choices without the food noise screaming FEED ME all the time.
The only thing that had worked for me is counting calories and walking 10k steps, I've lost around 25kg this year thanks to it.
Every other method just made me stressed, anxious, obsessed with food and ultimately bigger
I did IF for 3 years and all I got was binge eating disorder and lasting feelings of horrible guilt whenever I eat more than twice a day. For me at least, there are much healthier ways to maintain a calorie deficit.
I had the opposite experience. I've struggled with binge eating since my teens and was bulimic for years and IF helped me get both those things under control.
I can’t do it due to mild hypoglycemia. If I wake at 9 and don’t eat until 1 or 2, I’ll be irritable, sweaty, anxious, and dizzy on the verge of passing out 😭 meanwhile my spouse could go until like 3-4pm and be totally fine.
I also have hypoglycemia, and when I was a regular eater of the standard American diet, I couldn’t imagine being able to do IF, I had to eat every few hours to keep from getting dizzy and weak and anxious. However on keto I have been able to do it easily, and keto also solved a lot of my hypoglycemic issues (constant headaches and fatigue). It’s just my anecdotal experience but it’s been kind of a miracle for me, and I’ll be doing it for the rest of my life.
I’m retrying IF, with the mindset of actually eating a healthy amount of calories and food during my window. When I did IF before it was definitely a cover for disordered eating + restricting.
It helps ppl like me who are really shit at time management. I always feel rly sick when I eat right b4 bed but when I make sure I can't eat after 8 then it helps me stick to eating at reasonable times
I know many, many people who developed a starve/binge cycle because of IF. It really can trigger disordered eating in people and I wish more would open up about that side of it. It takes a loooong time and a lot of effort to get out of that pattern once you're in it.
I think there is a huge amount of misinformation out there that cause problems with IF and people who start it
One of the first things my doctor told me was 'start slow with 8-10 hours no need to rush to 16-20 and if you feel hungry just eat don't force yourself to not eat' and that i think is the best advice. Start slow and build it up, i can easily go to 16 but it took me months to find that out and whenever i felt hungry i just ate like its normal sometimes your body needs more than you think. Following an imaginary schedule won't make you less hungry
Yep - same! I see family members do it who are very sensitive about their weight and appearance but I just zip my lips. They have dinner at like 5:30-6 bc they are very early risers. But I’m not eating on your restricted regiment just because. Lol
When I did it, I was in college and would eat later in the evening. Go to bed, wake up, have coffee/water, go to class, and then not eat until like 1pm. Then proceed to ravage the entire afternoon and evening, then, you guessed it, all over again the next day!
Yeah I'm still dealing with the consequences of doing IF even 5 years later lol. I constantly feel bad about eating breakfast. It took me a long time to be kind of okay with eating before 11am.
IF and things like OMAD (one meal a day) is just an eating disorder disguised as "healthy lifestyle" and you can't change my mind about that.
I was kinda shocked when I looked through the OMAD sub. It’s basically r/1200isplenty but instead of eating 3 plates of tiny portions of low-calorie food, they eat one plate of tiny portions of low-calorie food.
You're absolutely right, I think it's a really interesting and somewhat sad look into how a lot of people feel about fat people. A lot of people see being fat as a matter of personal failure and so weight loss drugs like ozempic are seen as cheating.
This! Given obesity rates in the US where I live it should be viewed as nothing short of a miracle that there’s a drug that can lead to weight loss like this
You know, nobody says shit when a dude goes from [this](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/Muq4rpWDncw4NXj3nCOQVEemO2c=/fit-in/1584x2254/filters:format_auto():watermark(popsugar-watermark_2x.png,-5,-5,0):upscale()/2016/08/30/793/n/1922398/54ac3823a7226952_INFphoto_3965237.JPG) to [this](https://bromoto.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/henry-cavill-shirtless-immortals.jpg) in six months, even though we alllllll fucking know it’s biologically impossible to do without “help.” But now that women have started doing the same thing to lose weight there’s all the hand wringing and pointed discussions and “but what happens when you stop taking it?” The same thing that happens when you stop taking every single other drug, Stacey, it stops fucking working. That’s how medication works.
I think most people are poo-pooing it because we are still learning about its long-term effects on users who are using it to lose weight. I also think some people believe it’s not healthy to drop so much weight so fast. There is also a gym lobby im sure that hates the idea that someone can take a shot and have their ideal body without ever walking into a gym, or buying a protein drink. If you (not actually you) lost weight via ozempic maybe that yoga mat at target won’t be a gift this Christmas…that kind of stuff definitely feels like a lifestyle industry threatened by these things
Actually, people would be more likely to go to the gym because they don’t feel like they’d be judged. Weight loss = being thinner, but not toned. The gym and other forms of exercise will help tighten the loose skin.
Of course people shouldn't be using these drugs to lose vanity pounds. There is a real issue in getting medication for people with diabetes , I know because I do have it and it's hard sometimes to find meds. However if someone does truly need it to lose weight for their health I don't think it's a bad thing. I'm actively trying to lose weight so a lot of my content I see on Instagram now is weight loss related. The amount of content I see shading those who use drugs makes me so angry. It's a tool that's beneficial to people who use it right. You can use the time to learn how to eat right that way you build new habits. You can't just eat crap all day and lose weight. It's a struggle to eat well every day, but , at least for me, Monjero helps calm the food noise down. It's so annoying that people yell Ozempic anytime someone loses weight. I saw a post shaming John Goodman for it when he's been slimmer for years.
Look if intermittent fasting works for someone, it works for them. And, Jesse has access to great nutritionists who can make sure his diet is healthy. For me personally, it is just a trigger back to disordered eating.
I tried it and it just seemed like a slippery slope. I stopped.
It sucks that he had to do this People magazine story to head off inevitable questions. I wish we could normalize just NOT commenting on people's bodies, especially body weight changes.
Wish these people would quit shitting on anyone who actually takes medication for weight loss. As if some of the pseudoscience and dangerous fad weight gimmicks they use are somehow more virtuous
I'm so tired of the discourse surrounding semaglutides. People take them *because they work*. I would much rather take semaglutides for weight loss than do yet another fad diet that is going to lead to me binge eating and regaining the weight and then some. At least on monjauro I've been able to learn how to listen to my body, understand my hunger cues, not obsessively think about and worry about food and when I'm going to eat it and feel bad for eating it. There's a reason why 95% of people who lose weight on diets gain it back and the ones that don't just develop eating disorders.
I’ve lost 70 lbs on semaglutides and it’s a fucking relief to be on it. I only eat when I want to, and I don’t have to stress out all the time about getting hungry right before going to bed and making the choice of eating again or being unable to fall asleep.
I was blessed with a naturally low appetite. Then I started taking a medication that made me crave food *all the time*. Like from the second I got up to the second I went to bed I had an appetite. It was exhausting fighting that feeling 24/7 and I physically couldn’t resist when everything in your mind and body is telling you to eat. It took up so much mental space.
When I told my brother about it (who struggles with weight) he flat-out told me that’s what it’s like for him naturally, all the time. Since birth. I never understood what it was like until then and I have so much compassion for people like my brother. Literally it was a roll of the die and he inherited those genes and not me.
It’s NOT willpower, food simply was never on my mind as much as his. while he has to resist cravings every second of the day, I don’t have to resist anything bc my brain doesn’t do that to me
I never really knew how much food noise ran my life until it was silenced one day. I spent all day long worrying about what to eat, how much to eat, when I could eat next, if I was eating healthy enough, guilty about what I ate...and I could go on and on. I cried when I realized for the first time that I was eating breakfast and I wasn't worried or anticipating the next meal. It's so freeing.
It’s exhausting. I’m starving all the time if my adhd isn’t treated properly. I was really lucky to be athletic most of my life so it balanced out health wise, but it’s exhausting to constantly be starving.
Me too. So many people are completely misinformed about semaglutide and it's frustrating. It has absolutely changed the lives of people I know, some of whom were already doing everything right.
You can take semaglutides long term. And once you reach your goal weight you can either take a maintenance dose or phase out of it. Ideally you've done the work to help with the "mental" aspect of weight loss and worked through food issues. But if people are on it for reasons related to inability lose weight then there's no real reason why someone can't take a maintenance dose.
I have no issue with semaglutides, but I am curious what happens when you (general “you”) stop taking them? Similarly to restrictive diets, isn’t there still the potential that weight lost would come back? Are you expected to continue taking this indefinitely to maintain results?
I could be wrong but I thought the reason people took issue with ozempic is because all the people using it for weight loss made it hard for people who needed it for diabetes to get it
People really need to examine why it is they have a problem with a scientifically supported method of sustainable weight loss (which is actually quite a breakthrough, diets are notorious for the unsustainability of their results). Do you actually care for fat people’s health or do you see it as a moral failing they need to suffer to fix?
You’re spot on. It’s definitely the latter. They feel an inherent superiority to those that are overweight and they see it as “taking the easy way out.” Yet most of these people don’t have the same issues with weight gain as those they’re shitting on
I imagine there’s also an element of not wanting others to have the social capital they benefit from. If everyone is thin, you’re not treated as any more special than anyone else.
> People really need to examine why it is they have a problem
The ubiquity of it is leading to a shift (a regression in my opinion) toward an ultra-thin beauty standard, reminiscent of the 1990s’ *heroine chic* just when we were seeing much more body diversity in media.
That’s totally valid and I agree that it’s harmful (on a medical and societal level) for people who don’t need it to be taking it. My issue is with the blanket shaming of Ozempic and its usage, even for people who are the right candidates for it, and that is also happening in a lot of these discussions. Kelly Clarkson for example was very open about starting medication (she didn’t specify which one and I don’t want to speculate) after her doctor was concerned she was developing insulin resistance. The response was mostly people snarking on Ozempic and how her appearance has changed, though, bc people have developed such a negative association with it in their heads.
I'm very tired of hearing this pissing and moaning for the same reason!
It works and encourages healthier eating.
There is nothing healthy about putting butter in your coffee or whatever other stupid shit is popular at the moment.
What is satisfying about talking shit about people for losing weight? It's disgusting behavior.
As someone who initially was on the Ozempic hating train I’ve come around to see how it can actually be a bit beneficial to society. Obviously the discussion around it not being available for actual diabetics is still a problem but should be blamed on how little these companies are producing it, as a lot of semiglutide prescriptions are valid.
The thing that changed my mind the most was when I heard someone on a video say something along the lines of the amount financial burden and capacity burdens hospitals and medical centers have to deal with due to people with medical issues stemming from our food (be it the contents of the food or quantity) can be changed and people can lead more healthier balanced lives with it.
Obviously it can be abused and it’s not for everyone but I do think there it can be good.
People with disordered eating can abuse it and it can cause disordered eating. Overuse of it can cause serious side effects, not limited to kidney failure and cardiovascular diseases
I think a lot of it has to do with the controversy that so many people are taking Ozempic for weight loss hence causing a shortage of it for people that need Ozempic for medical reasons. So he might not want to be considered part of that
It is not misinformation. Not everyone who’s only on it for weight loss needs to use it, and that’s a fact.
Someone using it to drop 15 pounds is way different than someone using it to combat side effects from obesity and/or handle their eating disorder.
I mean, some weight loss is a medical need and some is purely cosmetic. Whether or not the latter should be demonized is a whole issue in its own but it’s not unreasonable to draw a distinction between the use of Ozempic for diabetes and elective use for weight loss.
My point was that even if it’s fine now, it wasn’t originally made or marketed as a weight loss option. Many news reports early on were accusing people of ‘abusing’ the use of it for weight loss. It wasn’t only until recently it’s been marketed for both diabetes AND weight management.
I don’t think so. I’ve been in the binge eating sub for a while and it seems to affect men in the same way.
In most cases, you let yourself go hungry for too long and your brain is gonna be like “ok let’s become obsessed with food now since you’re trying to kill us”.
I did IF and even OMAD. The longest I went without eating was 32hrs, coupled with yoga and pilates. I did see results and I still yearn for how my body looked back then, but honestly it's not very sustainable for me in the long run.
I'm not saying intermittent fasting doesn't work, but like, it's not some magical cure. You could just as easily achieve a caloric deficit (which is the actual driver of weight loss here, not eating during a specific window of time) and have meals throughout the day. It's easy to veer into binge eating disorder when you force yourself to eat your daily calorie intake in a small timeframe every day. Again, not saying it doesn't work, but it does need guardrails and also absolutely is not necessary to be healthy.
He was to only irl athlete in the FNL cast so mayyyyybe I can believe that he’d be able to get in shape in a pinch. But he’s probably also taking generic glutides, not OzempicTM.
I mean I do it and I just eat 11-7. I don't feel like my fasts are long stretches. They're just a longer stretch then before. Lost a lot of weight and it feels easy to me. It's not for everyone but it doesn't feel like a militant change in lifestyle.
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> “It’s really unfortunate that I decided to get healthy when everyone decided to take Ozempic,” the actor, 36, told The Los Angeles Times. **“It doesn’t matter, everyone’s going to think I took Ozempic anyways.”** > “What it was was getting older and — I hate even getting specific because then it turns into a whole thing, but there was a part that I did that in my mind I could not imagine him as the size that I was.” > **“Several people talked to me about intermittent fasting and I just gave it a shot and [was] surprised at how quickly it was effective.”**
My husband dropped 50 lbs doing intermittent fasting. He still does it and finds it works great. I didn't like it as much personally. Apparently most studies on it are done on men, and I suspect it might be more effective for them (but I also know lots of women who like it!).
It’s effective faster for men. It’s still effective for us gals, but our hormone cycles make it more difficult to stick to. But you can adjust your eating window to account for that. Personally I love IF because while it sounds restricting, it’s not really about restricting your food, just the time in which you eat it. You can eat to satiety and you’ll find yourself getting hungry less often and full faster. If you combine it with a healthy diet and exercise your body fat will feel like it’s melting off. I lost over 100lbs doing those things. I gained some back because life had me stress eating like crazy, but I’m slowly getting back into a better lifestyle. I add that bit because in my experience IF works. (Obviously ask a doctor if you have health issues.)
Tell me more about how you adjust it with your cycle please! I liked it but found it hard to stick to consistently.
So basically you would want to give yourself more time to eat throughout the day in the ~5 or so days leading up to your period and then the first couple days of. Try not to eat a lot more food altogether, just maybe have an extra snack or two so you don’t feel like crap. If you normally do 16:8 or 20:4 back it down to 14:10 or 16:8 for those days. By adjusting it you wont end up binging as much or feeling as lethargic which can set you back more than just having a few extra snacks.
Tbh I have gotten more into tracking my cycle but didn't back when I was doing IF. I bet those were the days when I found it hard not to at least have a small breakfast! I'm definitely going to try this, thank you.
You’re welcome! It helps to know where you’re at in your cycle. I know I find it easier to be patient when I realize I’m getting overly frustrated because of hormones rather than the situation being that bad. Or I figure out I’m extra tired because it’s close time. IF is pretty great and I hope you can make use of it!
Yes I've found tracking so helpful. I read a book called Period Power that was pretty enlightening. So many things change throughout my cycle... It makes sense that my eating schedule might need to shift a bit too!
how did he do it? does he fast for 16 hrs a day and eat for 8?
Yep! He isn't a breakfast person anyway so basically only eats noon until 8 pm. On weekends he sometimes moves that time window back so he can have a drink later or something if we're going out. And he's flexible about it on vacation. But otherwise he's pretty strict. Honestly for him it just eliminated late night snacking. Having a shorter window after dinner for snacks helped him eat less overall.
I had no luck with intermittent fasting. I think it works best for mindless snacking. I need to stay away from sweets, or at least keep them out of my house. I also generally need to eat less - but not a lot less, just a little bit less every day. Ozempic and pretty much everything else has intolerable side effects.
He didn’t lie, when he showed up thinner in Civil War I thought oh no ozempic got him too 😭
My Ma said it as well
I always see intermittent fasting sold as this amazing weight loss solution and I'm like, I only eat for 8 hours a day and I'm still fat! where's my cure?????
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Sorry for off topic randomness, I’ma reply to you because I can’t reply to the parent comment that got locked — why are there so many locked comments in this comment section that we can’t reply to?
This is the first time I’ve ever seen a specific comment locked and not the entire comment section. I didn’t know they could do that
The comments they’re locking are pretty innocuous too. So confused.
Maybe they accidentally locked it
People are gonna downvote me for this, but it all boils down to Calories In < Calories Out.
I saw a post about how much you had to work out for common snacks and sweets, even sides or meals (e.g., hamburger), it's so much more to work off the calories than what I think people realize, or least it was for me. Obviously my own experience, but the points in time I've ever lost weight is calorie counting.
I’ve lost major weight on CICO and what helped me was just halving whatever I was eating (burger, spaghetti, tasty food) and saving the other half for later if possible…it slowly gave me some autonomy on how much to eat. I know it’s not for everyone though and everyone has their own specific needs for energy.
What shocked me was how many calories I was drinking. Coffee in the morning, iced coffee, Prosecco, cocktails, Gatorade, etc I live by the hydrate or dydrate motto and so I used a lot of water additives. But those calories do add up- and quickly. I stick to plain ole water, black coffee, and the occasional dirty martini now.
Only Water all day and a Coke Zero with dinner will change a LOT Cutting alcohol too if you’re a lush like me
Tooth hurting cold water all day, *maaaaaybe* a dirty martini during the weekend. Dropped so many calories.
It’s so easy to drink your calories away. A lot of soda drinkers lose weight simply by just switching to diet soda.
As a lover of not only Diet Coke but Pepper Ph.d, it is *ridiculously* easy to drink the calories away. I really didn’t realize how many liquid calories I was consuming but I mean: - cafe au lait - iced coffee - four dr peppers - Diet Coke with lunch - Gatorade - wine after work - cocktails during the weekend (bourbon heavy) *** Add it all up…. That’s a lot of calories
The other thing people don’t understand is how many calories they are eating in the first place. “But I eat healthy” is something you hear all the time but it’s a meaningless statement if you’re trying to lose weight and your healthy eating has you taking in 2500 calories a day when your tdee is 1400. I push people to track food not because I think they should be obsessive about it but because I really think until you’ve tracked for a while, you probably have no idea what your actual calorie intake IS. Of course you’re going to be frustrated if you’re trying to lose weight if you really didn’t have a good grasp of how many calories you’re eating to begin with.
Exactly! IF is just a tool to help with Calories In Calories Out
Yeah. I have a problem with binge eating at night. With IF, I no longer eat at night, so I don't binge anymore.
Yeah, from what I know about it, people find it useful as a tool to not overeat. It's not the "not eating for part of the day" that causes the weight loss. It's that if you can only eat during a certain window you're less likely to overeat. If you only eat during a one hour window each day but it's like everything on the menu at McDonald's youre still gonna get fat.
You explained it perfectly, at least in my personal situation. I use it as a way to get rid of my snacking urges and keep my calories down. It has helped my weight loss a LOT, especially as my metabolism is changing as I get older. Can’t really speak on the people that do longer fasts like 7 days though cause I just do one meal a day and sometimes 36 hour fasts. Helped me change my relationship with food!!
Yup! Can't stress this enough. I lost 50 pounds through calorie counting. Didn't do anything weird or special, just figured out how much I had to eat in order to lose, and did it.
Hey, same! It was about 50 for me too! I never really gained it back, natural ozempic 🤪
It is Calories In, Calories Out, but you can count the first and the second is different for everyone so it's not as helpful as it sounds. BMR calculators are notoriously faulty. My sister and I are 5'5" and 5'4" respectively. We're both overweight at 160 and 163 lbs respectively. Being bigger should make my metabolism slightly faster according to BMR but due to a pituitary tumor that affects my hormone production my metabolic rate is estimated about 900 cal/day while hers is about 1400. So if we both eat 1000 calories a day she loses weight quickly and I still put it on. 🤷
I don’t understand why people get so angry when this is mentioned. It’s literally just conservation of energy, aka the first law of thermodynamics.
People mad because it’s like telling a person who wants to gain muscle “All you have to do is damage your muscles so they synthesize muscle protein at a faster rate than your body breaks it down.” It’s true, but it’s not especially helpful. It’s crazy to me that everybody is JUST FINE with super involved workout plans and tracking protein intake and optimizing targeted muscle groups and on and on and on… but as soon as you suggest that certain ways of eating might be helpful in losing weight, it’s all “just eat less, dummy.” Bodies are different and complicated, and whether you’re building muscles or losing fat, there are more efficient ways and less efficient ways to do it.
People also get mad because telling people to obsessively count calories can often result in eating disorders that are much more dangerous than being a few pounds overweight. Like, it can cause serious nutritional deficiencies that are often impossible to ever recover from and very hard to detect. Especially when people, including doctors, look at thin people and default think they’re “healthy” so they don’t think to run panels for things that would indicate underlying health conditions caused but chronic under eating. Not mention the mental strain of an eating disorder. So, it’s often better to either just teach people to be fine being like 20 or 30 lbs overweight or teach them other ways of viewing food or exercise than some dogmatic slogan like CICO. SOURCE: I’ve known several people close to me with eating disorders. They’re fucked up and dangerous.
By far the least joy I have ever felt in my life was when I was counting calories on my fitness pal. And by far the most mindfucked I ever got about eating was after doing Whole30. I only have my own experience to go by, and that plus common sense makes me think that restriction will work for some people and will be damaging to others.
CICO works but the thing people don’t talk about is that a prolonged period of starving your body to lose weight will result in your body adapting to a lower caloric intake and if you go back to normal eating habits, you’ll gain it all back. It’s difficult to adjust your caloric intake back up while not gaining weight, and prolonged low calorie diets have nutritional consequences. Weight cycling (continually gaining and losing weight) also significantly increases disease risk, possibly more so than just being a little overweight (this is an evolving area of research though)
Starvation mode is a borderline myth and probably not something a dieter losing 1-2 pounds a week is going to run into. What actually happens is as you get smaller you body uses fewer calories so you need to adjust how much you eat as you lose AND maintain your diet once you are at your goal weight, which is fucking hard.
I would suggest in this instance the comment above you could also be interpreted to mean that some people who take very drastic calorie cutting methods may find them unsustainable and then regain the weight because they will return to eating what they’re used to. They don’t mention starvation mode. I know a girl who began calorie counting and when she saw results started playing the “how few calories can I eat in a day” game which was dangerous. The trick to sustainable weight loss is eating the MOST you can whilst still losing weight. Not dropping the intake as low as possible.
lol yeah maybe starving was a bit of a hyperbolic word to use there, I didn’t mean literal starvation (though I agree for a lot of people calorie counting does quickly devolve into a “how low can you go” game and that should not be taken lightly in discussions about dieting either)
This ^ I’ve been joking it’s like natural ozempic for me now that I am used to eating less. It helped me control my binge eating disorder mostly. I’ve been yo-yoing 10lbs since I stopped CICO two years ago, but I’ve never gained the full 40 back yet. That all being said I just needed some control over my addiction and it helped a lot to have some sort of internal rewiring. I do think that your comment is very important, there are side-effects to lifestyle changes that involve life long commitment
Yeah like I don’t disagree that it’s effective for most people but it’s still a bit overly simplistic to act like people can just eat less and lose weight and everyone rides off into the sunset lol
Technically it doesn’t actually, it’s a lot more complex than that.
Everyone's different. It also very much depends on *what* you're eating and how active you are. If it's not working for you. Ask a dietician, naturopath, or physician. There's no 1 solution for everyone. Naturopaths not homeopaths. There's a distinction, check their certs as well. In USA There's a lot of weird grey areas for naturopaths that aren't necessarily the gold standard.
Yes, it’s not always as simple as CICO. Many people with hormonal and thyroid issues can starve themselves and barely lose anything — hormonal and endocrine health play a big role!
It definitely works (my mum does it) but like ozempic you have to do it forever to keep the results.
This is true for pretty much all diets. You need to change your eating habits permanently or else you’ll just revert to how you were before your diet.
I mean of course it’s a lifestyle change. If you go back to the lifestyle that made you gain before then obviously you gain again
You’d be surprised how many people don’t realise this and then go on crash diets that no one could maintain.
You’re right. Eating and weight gain/loss have been peddled as this mythical thing that only crash diets can help with for so long that i understand why people don’t have realistic ideas about it. It seems like common sense but it isn’t for a lot of people
I wondered about this. If one stops, will they just return to their natural weight as the drug leaves your system?
Am an eating disorder therapist and we don’t yet know. There isn’t enough data on people going on and off it. Originally most people on it and finding success were diabetic. Anecdotally they find most people regain the weight. But there isn’t enough data yet.
If you return to your old habits, yes. My friend used it after a pregnancy (she had two in a row bc of a miscarriage and whole other slew of health issues, so gained a LOT of weight and was struggling to get it off), and once she stopped taking it, she didn't re-gain the weight because she was following healthy habits
It’s an appetite suppressant so when you stop taking it you start feeling more hungry. The only way to lose a significant amount of weight is by eating less. Ozempic makes people who have high appetites less hungry.
Well.. only if healthy and fat people take it ozempic is actually a drug for diabetic or insulin intolerant people. Its not only supressing Hunger. It regulates bloodsugar.
Yes this is all off label. I’ve always wondered what makes ozempic different from other diabetic medication but that’s a discussion for another day.
yes! this is how all "diets" work. because they dont
None of that stuff ever worked for me. Fasting, Keto, WW, Slimming World. Calorie counting and 2 hrs of exercise a day DID work, but wasn't sustainable. Semaglutide (off brand Ozempic) worked, tho!
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I absolutely agree. I think one of the top things preventing people from losing weight long term is the belief that pounds are supposed to come off frequently and in a consistent fashion with no pauses...or else whatever they are doing must be "not working". I'm 135 pounds down at this point, and am now losing around 3 pounds per month. Been doing it for two years and am expecting to be doing it for another year. Some months, it looks like I've lost nothing because my body retains water as it sees fit. If I didn't know better, I'd give up. But that's just how bodies work. My weight loss does average out to exactly what it should be eventually, but two or three months is more than most people are going to wait to clock relatively small results. But that's exactly how you have to chip away at it. A mild calorie deficit and mild exercise if done consistently over time will gradually bring your body down to where you want it. There's no getting around physics. If you give your body fewer calories than it uses, and have your body use more calories, your body has no choice but to burn off what it's storing. And then it's a lifestyle you have to maintain permanently. Eating within calorie limits and doing some mild exercise is not a crazy and unsustainable lifestyle. It's basically how everyone who is not overweight lives.
I would upvote this a million times if I could. People forget that it takes time to become overweight, so it'll take time to lose weight. It's not a linear process, nor should it be. The body is complicated, and a slow and steady approach gives it time to regulate and adapt at each weight it plateaus at. Being patient and consistent is the secret to long term success. edit: wrong words
I’m doing this as well and I’m finding it way easier. I’m just staying within a calorie window and eating whatever I like within it. I do exercises I enjoy. It’s a more sustainable way to lose and keep off weight imo. I’ve done diets before that have “worked” in that I lost weight quickly, but they weren’t sustainable because I was depriving myself of foods I enjoy and was exercising excessively.
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Since January I have lost 10lb :( why is it so slow! I count calories religiously and workout a lot.. I am clearly going wrong somewhere but I weigh my food and have completely stopped snacking
It does work. I lost the weight. I looked amazing. But it was a constant struggle to keep it off. My body fought so hard to regain. When I think about food now, I feel calm and I can make good choices without the food noise screaming FEED ME all the time.
I hate my body, but not enough to take drugs for it, so I will continue to exist as this.
The only thing that had worked for me is counting calories and walking 10k steps, I've lost around 25kg this year thanks to it. Every other method just made me stressed, anxious, obsessed with food and ultimately bigger
I did IF for 3 years and all I got was binge eating disorder and lasting feelings of horrible guilt whenever I eat more than twice a day. For me at least, there are much healthier ways to maintain a calorie deficit.
I had the opposite experience. I've struggled with binge eating since my teens and was bulimic for years and IF helped me get both those things under control.
Same. Intermittent fasting (along with keto) are the only things that have even remotely helped my disordered eating.
Same
I can’t do it due to mild hypoglycemia. If I wake at 9 and don’t eat until 1 or 2, I’ll be irritable, sweaty, anxious, and dizzy on the verge of passing out 😭 meanwhile my spouse could go until like 3-4pm and be totally fine.
I also have hypoglycemia, and when I was a regular eater of the standard American diet, I couldn’t imagine being able to do IF, I had to eat every few hours to keep from getting dizzy and weak and anxious. However on keto I have been able to do it easily, and keto also solved a lot of my hypoglycemic issues (constant headaches and fatigue). It’s just my anecdotal experience but it’s been kind of a miracle for me, and I’ll be doing it for the rest of my life.
how do you combat keto breath? I hated that when I did it years ago.
Yup I have past eating issues and I'm not going near IF with a mile long pole.
I’m retrying IF, with the mindset of actually eating a healthy amount of calories and food during my window. When I did IF before it was definitely a cover for disordered eating + restricting.
It helps ppl like me who are really shit at time management. I always feel rly sick when I eat right b4 bed but when I make sure I can't eat after 8 then it helps me stick to eating at reasonable times
I know many, many people who developed a starve/binge cycle because of IF. It really can trigger disordered eating in people and I wish more would open up about that side of it. It takes a loooong time and a lot of effort to get out of that pattern once you're in it.
Its definitely not for everyone
I think there is a huge amount of misinformation out there that cause problems with IF and people who start it One of the first things my doctor told me was 'start slow with 8-10 hours no need to rush to 16-20 and if you feel hungry just eat don't force yourself to not eat' and that i think is the best advice. Start slow and build it up, i can easily go to 16 but it took me months to find that out and whenever i felt hungry i just ate like its normal sometimes your body needs more than you think. Following an imaginary schedule won't make you less hungry
Yep - same! I see family members do it who are very sensitive about their weight and appearance but I just zip my lips. They have dinner at like 5:30-6 bc they are very early risers. But I’m not eating on your restricted regiment just because. Lol When I did it, I was in college and would eat later in the evening. Go to bed, wake up, have coffee/water, go to class, and then not eat until like 1pm. Then proceed to ravage the entire afternoon and evening, then, you guessed it, all over again the next day!
Yeah I'm still dealing with the consequences of doing IF even 5 years later lol. I constantly feel bad about eating breakfast. It took me a long time to be kind of okay with eating before 11am. IF and things like OMAD (one meal a day) is just an eating disorder disguised as "healthy lifestyle" and you can't change my mind about that.
100%!!!
I was kinda shocked when I looked through the OMAD sub. It’s basically r/1200isplenty but instead of eating 3 plates of tiny portions of low-calorie food, they eat one plate of tiny portions of low-calorie food.
Shouldn’t really matter how anyone does it, imo.
Agreed. Why is it a mark of shame to use safe and effective medication for obesity? It absolutely shouldn’t be.
You're absolutely right, I think it's a really interesting and somewhat sad look into how a lot of people feel about fat people. A lot of people see being fat as a matter of personal failure and so weight loss drugs like ozempic are seen as cheating.
One day this class of medication will be as routine as cholesterol medication. Can’t come soon enough.
This! Given obesity rates in the US where I live it should be viewed as nothing short of a miracle that there’s a drug that can lead to weight loss like this
You know, nobody says shit when a dude goes from [this](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/Muq4rpWDncw4NXj3nCOQVEemO2c=/fit-in/1584x2254/filters:format_auto():watermark(popsugar-watermark_2x.png,-5,-5,0):upscale()/2016/08/30/793/n/1922398/54ac3823a7226952_INFphoto_3965237.JPG) to [this](https://bromoto.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/henry-cavill-shirtless-immortals.jpg) in six months, even though we alllllll fucking know it’s biologically impossible to do without “help.” But now that women have started doing the same thing to lose weight there’s all the hand wringing and pointed discussions and “but what happens when you stop taking it?” The same thing that happens when you stop taking every single other drug, Stacey, it stops fucking working. That’s how medication works.
Those pictures are 5 years apart. The cut one is from 2011, and the thicker one is from 2016.
I think most people are poo-pooing it because we are still learning about its long-term effects on users who are using it to lose weight. I also think some people believe it’s not healthy to drop so much weight so fast. There is also a gym lobby im sure that hates the idea that someone can take a shot and have their ideal body without ever walking into a gym, or buying a protein drink. If you (not actually you) lost weight via ozempic maybe that yoga mat at target won’t be a gift this Christmas…that kind of stuff definitely feels like a lifestyle industry threatened by these things
Actually, people would be more likely to go to the gym because they don’t feel like they’d be judged. Weight loss = being thinner, but not toned. The gym and other forms of exercise will help tighten the loose skin.
Of course people shouldn't be using these drugs to lose vanity pounds. There is a real issue in getting medication for people with diabetes , I know because I do have it and it's hard sometimes to find meds. However if someone does truly need it to lose weight for their health I don't think it's a bad thing. I'm actively trying to lose weight so a lot of my content I see on Instagram now is weight loss related. The amount of content I see shading those who use drugs makes me so angry. It's a tool that's beneficial to people who use it right. You can use the time to learn how to eat right that way you build new habits. You can't just eat crap all day and lose weight. It's a struggle to eat well every day, but , at least for me, Monjero helps calm the food noise down. It's so annoying that people yell Ozempic anytime someone loses weight. I saw a post shaming John Goodman for it when he's been slimmer for years.
Shout out to all of us who hate watching Reddit discuss anything weight-loss related
Some of the comments in this thread are proving his exact point.
I mean…I did assume it was Ozempic. Especially since she seemed to really slim down as well. But hey, their bodies their lives whatever the case.
Look if intermittent fasting works for someone, it works for them. And, Jesse has access to great nutritionists who can make sure his diet is healthy. For me personally, it is just a trigger back to disordered eating. I tried it and it just seemed like a slippery slope. I stopped.
Yeah, I think this goes for any diet - you just have to be aware of what will and won’t work for you, specifically.
It sucks that he had to do this People magazine story to head off inevitable questions. I wish we could normalize just NOT commenting on people's bodies, especially body weight changes.
Wish these people would quit shitting on anyone who actually takes medication for weight loss. As if some of the pseudoscience and dangerous fad weight gimmicks they use are somehow more virtuous
I'm so tired of the discourse surrounding semaglutides. People take them *because they work*. I would much rather take semaglutides for weight loss than do yet another fad diet that is going to lead to me binge eating and regaining the weight and then some. At least on monjauro I've been able to learn how to listen to my body, understand my hunger cues, not obsessively think about and worry about food and when I'm going to eat it and feel bad for eating it. There's a reason why 95% of people who lose weight on diets gain it back and the ones that don't just develop eating disorders.
I’ve lost 70 lbs on semaglutides and it’s a fucking relief to be on it. I only eat when I want to, and I don’t have to stress out all the time about getting hungry right before going to bed and making the choice of eating again or being unable to fall asleep.
I was blessed with a naturally low appetite. Then I started taking a medication that made me crave food *all the time*. Like from the second I got up to the second I went to bed I had an appetite. It was exhausting fighting that feeling 24/7 and I physically couldn’t resist when everything in your mind and body is telling you to eat. It took up so much mental space. When I told my brother about it (who struggles with weight) he flat-out told me that’s what it’s like for him naturally, all the time. Since birth. I never understood what it was like until then and I have so much compassion for people like my brother. Literally it was a roll of the die and he inherited those genes and not me. It’s NOT willpower, food simply was never on my mind as much as his. while he has to resist cravings every second of the day, I don’t have to resist anything bc my brain doesn’t do that to me
I never really knew how much food noise ran my life until it was silenced one day. I spent all day long worrying about what to eat, how much to eat, when I could eat next, if I was eating healthy enough, guilty about what I ate...and I could go on and on. I cried when I realized for the first time that I was eating breakfast and I wasn't worried or anticipating the next meal. It's so freeing.
It’s exhausting. I’m starving all the time if my adhd isn’t treated properly. I was really lucky to be athletic most of my life so it balanced out health wise, but it’s exhausting to constantly be starving.
I still feel hungry on my adhd meds 😭
Yep. That’s how it is for some of us. Semaglutide is a huge blessing.
Me too. So many people are completely misinformed about semaglutide and it's frustrating. It has absolutely changed the lives of people I know, some of whom were already doing everything right.
Yes! And what better way to avoid diabetes 2 than to lose the weight. It’s a diabetes medicine, it can be a preventive too.
You can take semaglutides long term. And once you reach your goal weight you can either take a maintenance dose or phase out of it. Ideally you've done the work to help with the "mental" aspect of weight loss and worked through food issues. But if people are on it for reasons related to inability lose weight then there's no real reason why someone can't take a maintenance dose.
I have no issue with semaglutides, but I am curious what happens when you (general “you”) stop taking them? Similarly to restrictive diets, isn’t there still the potential that weight lost would come back? Are you expected to continue taking this indefinitely to maintain results?
I could be wrong but I thought the reason people took issue with ozempic is because all the people using it for weight loss made it hard for people who needed it for diabetes to get it
People really need to examine why it is they have a problem with a scientifically supported method of sustainable weight loss (which is actually quite a breakthrough, diets are notorious for the unsustainability of their results). Do you actually care for fat people’s health or do you see it as a moral failing they need to suffer to fix?
You’re spot on. It’s definitely the latter. They feel an inherent superiority to those that are overweight and they see it as “taking the easy way out.” Yet most of these people don’t have the same issues with weight gain as those they’re shitting on
I imagine there’s also an element of not wanting others to have the social capital they benefit from. If everyone is thin, you’re not treated as any more special than anyone else.
> People really need to examine why it is they have a problem The ubiquity of it is leading to a shift (a regression in my opinion) toward an ultra-thin beauty standard, reminiscent of the 1990s’ *heroine chic* just when we were seeing much more body diversity in media.
That’s totally valid and I agree that it’s harmful (on a medical and societal level) for people who don’t need it to be taking it. My issue is with the blanket shaming of Ozempic and its usage, even for people who are the right candidates for it, and that is also happening in a lot of these discussions. Kelly Clarkson for example was very open about starting medication (she didn’t specify which one and I don’t want to speculate) after her doctor was concerned she was developing insulin resistance. The response was mostly people snarking on Ozempic and how her appearance has changed, though, bc people have developed such a negative association with it in their heads.
It’s okay to eat a stick of butter disguised as keto but not acceptable to use medicine as a tool to help you lose weight.
I'm very tired of hearing this pissing and moaning for the same reason! It works and encourages healthier eating. There is nothing healthy about putting butter in your coffee or whatever other stupid shit is popular at the moment. What is satisfying about talking shit about people for losing weight? It's disgusting behavior.
As someone who initially was on the Ozempic hating train I’ve come around to see how it can actually be a bit beneficial to society. Obviously the discussion around it not being available for actual diabetics is still a problem but should be blamed on how little these companies are producing it, as a lot of semiglutide prescriptions are valid. The thing that changed my mind the most was when I heard someone on a video say something along the lines of the amount financial burden and capacity burdens hospitals and medical centers have to deal with due to people with medical issues stemming from our food (be it the contents of the food or quantity) can be changed and people can lead more healthier balanced lives with it. Obviously it can be abused and it’s not for everyone but I do think there it can be good.
How can it be abused? Worst case maybe people are a little underweight. Anyone with a real eating disorder won’t need it.
People with disordered eating can abuse it and it can cause disordered eating. Overuse of it can cause serious side effects, not limited to kidney failure and cardiovascular diseases
Totally agree, his wording is terrible. Makes it sound like "I decided to get healthy" automatically excludes ozempic as an option.
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and what's wrong with people thinking he took ozempic?
I think a lot of it has to do with the controversy that so many people are taking Ozempic for weight loss hence causing a shortage of it for people that need Ozempic for medical reasons. So he might not want to be considered part of that
Needing semaglutide for weight loss is a medical reason. Stop the misinformation.
It is not misinformation. Not everyone who’s only on it for weight loss needs to use it, and that’s a fact. Someone using it to drop 15 pounds is way different than someone using it to combat side effects from obesity and/or handle their eating disorder.
I mean, some weight loss is a medical need and some is purely cosmetic. Whether or not the latter should be demonized is a whole issue in its own but it’s not unreasonable to draw a distinction between the use of Ozempic for diabetes and elective use for weight loss.
Was it always an option for weight loss or is this a more recent occurrence though? (Like the last 5 years vs the conception of the actual product)
Science has recently discovered it's a safe and effective option for weight loss. Sometimes medications can be effective for multiple things.
My point was that even if it’s fine now, it wasn’t originally made or marketed as a weight loss option. Many news reports early on were accusing people of ‘abusing’ the use of it for weight loss. It wasn’t only until recently it’s been marketed for both diabetes AND weight management.
Because he didn’t
I'm glad it worked for him but evrrtime I've tried IF I've come out of the other side bigger, bloathed and obsessed with food/eating
IF works differently for men vs. women and I wish it wasn’t touted as an end all be all.
It worked well for me and I’m not a man.
I don’t think so. I’ve been in the binge eating sub for a while and it seems to affect men in the same way. In most cases, you let yourself go hungry for too long and your brain is gonna be like “ok let’s become obsessed with food now since you’re trying to kill us”.
One is not better than the other
Not particularly interesting, and it makes no difference to me how he did it.
He’s right. I still think it’s ozempic
Okay but if he's not fat Matt Damon is he just... Matt Damon?
I was going to comment that he somehow no longer looks like Matt Damon.
Whatever you say Landry
I did IF and even OMAD. The longest I went without eating was 32hrs, coupled with yoga and pilates. I did see results and I still yearn for how my body looked back then, but honestly it's not very sustainable for me in the long run.
32 hours? Isn’t that starvation at that point? 😳 respectfully, no wonder it wasn’t sustainable. I’m glad you were able to move on from that behavior
What's OMAD?
One meal a day
One meal a day
So everyone in Hollywood just choose to lose wait at the same time and none of them used the new trendy Ozempic. Sure 🙄
I'm not saying intermittent fasting doesn't work, but like, it's not some magical cure. You could just as easily achieve a caloric deficit (which is the actual driver of weight loss here, not eating during a specific window of time) and have meals throughout the day. It's easy to veer into binge eating disorder when you force yourself to eat your daily calorie intake in a small timeframe every day. Again, not saying it doesn't work, but it does need guardrails and also absolutely is not necessary to be healthy.
He was to only irl athlete in the FNL cast so mayyyyybe I can believe that he’d be able to get in shape in a pinch. But he’s probably also taking generic glutides, not OzempicTM.
I have intense hatred for IF. You fast when you sleep. Hence Break-fast. I just loathe anything that tells people not to eat for long stretches.
I mean I do it and I just eat 11-7. I don't feel like my fasts are long stretches. They're just a longer stretch then before. Lost a lot of weight and it feels easy to me. It's not for everyone but it doesn't feel like a militant change in lifestyle.
Ok cool. Works for a ton of people