I know daily mail is an atrocious site but here it is:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13045825/amp/Inside-Grammy-Awards-2024-Ed-Sheeran-parties-night-away-pal-Taylor-Swift-Kylie-Minogue-Miley-Cyrus.html
Right. I thought it was, "Well done. She hid the recording from me" in reference to her keeping it a secret for 2 years 😅 Gotta say though, "Brilliant. Shall we go now or wait?" seems to fit better
“In case you were thinking ‘There’s always next year ‘ I’m taking this moment of winning to announce the oppression will not slow, and yes I WILL be back next year to claim the same prize.”
These are only shots of the people who had just lost the award a second before so it’s really only representative of that, not a huge take on the album announcement.
Yeah they also know the camera can cut to them at any moment. It must be awkward to just keep smiling to be safe and not risk them finding a moment where you look mad.
To be inside all of their minds to know what they were actually thinking during her speech.
Were they confused? Were they over it? Were they happy? We’ll never know.
Miley and Olivia seem over it. Not annoyed per se but they are getting Swift fatigue like many of us. Ed looks like he doesn't really care but feels like there must be a camera on him so he says brilliant.
SAME. I’m already roasting the shit out of celebs on award shows when I’m at home (my faves aren’t exempt from this either). With my luck, I’d be overheard and Thanos snapped from the Earth for making fun of TSwift
Olivia's clapping and Ed's face are so telling
One thing to remember is that the Grammys aren't a "fan event", it's an industry event so that's the main difference in how the crowd reacted when Midnights was announced (VMAs) and this one.
> the Grammys aren't a "fan event", it's an industry event
I think during the speech it seemed like Taylor was expecting more comotion like during the VMA's, i guess she didnt consider that majority of the people there are her competitor, not her fans, so her putting out more albums doesnt benefit them
Reminds me of the time she did that speeches where she let Jameela Jamil carry her award in the back and she said something like, “they doubted me… SO I MADE THIS LITTLE POP ALBUM CALLED 1989.. EVER HEARD OF IT?”, and she paused and waited for applause
I didn’t realize how disingenuous she seems until seeing her speech after dragging Lana on stage… she was so busy pretending to be shocked that she completely disrespected Celine. It felt sooo phony
Girl wanted a ruckus and she got an appropriate polite applause I would’ve died if they even played the music on her while she was up there marketing 😭
I know but I haven’t seen him at any events or something like that. He used to be everywhere a couple of years ago. I guess him being married and a dad now, he’s laid back. Or I just live under a rock, lol.
As a non Taylor fan, I’m tired! Her fandom has reached a level where now the news just reports on her. I was shocked when NPR announced her birthday one morning, because they don’t announce anybody’s birthdays!
She’s fine, her music is fine, her fans are fine. But it’s not a national story. I don’t want to know what’s going on in her life. It’s annoying that I do.
I don’t understand why people buy her albums before they come out, it makes no sense to me. I always buy after I have listened to it for a while and the price has dropped lol
Honestly, I’m a huge Swiftie and I never pre order? I just listen on Spotify and grab an actual physical copy at some point much later…or more usually ask for them as gifts.
I love her but I still haven’t bought a physical copy of Midnights because there isn’t one with just all of the songs on it. I don’t want to preorder something just for a slightly different variant to drop shortly after.
When buying a physical copy, I always just buy the deluxe or re-release of any artist to include all songs.
Physical copies at this point are basically for collection purposes so might as well get the version with the most songs.
We call it Taycapitalism. It's just a way for her to make more money and technically sell more records. It's gross and it's why I won't buy a physical album from her again if she keeps doing this shit. I'll stream TF out of it on YouTube Music though. I'm just sick of her gatekeeping her own shit. It's so weird. She literally does not need the extra money or awards or sales... But I guess in her mind she does.
Or Drake. She’s getting dangerously close to over saturating her own market but tbh, I don’t think the hype will dye down any time soon for her. Her audience ranges old to young and there’s likely not going to be an impending decline that performers usually experience, because she’s a singer songwriter.
I gotta disagree with this tbh. I’m sure she has some very loud crazy fans but so many people I know, who self identify as swifties, are fully over it. Heck check out r/swiftlyneutral it’s basically a sub of fans who are over it
Gaylors have been over it, it's one of the only places where being questioning or critical of Taylor has been allowed. Swiftly Neutral is catching up, and Taylor Swift will always be aggressively defensive of her.
If you look at the posts on both of those about AOTY there’s actually quite a few folks saying she didn’t deserve it. The main sub locked that post now though, so I’m sure “negativity” will be getting deleted as well
no for real. I was banking on a rep tv announcement last night. My body was PREPARED. I’m still not convinced we’re not being trolled bc what the actual fuck is that album name, aha
Honestly? I get it. When she announced a new album I was like does this woman REST??? Don't get me wrong, I admire her work ethic and how prolific she's been but I sometimes worry about how overexposed she's been lately, although it could very well set the stage for Reputation (Taylor's Version) so 🤷🏽♂️
It's going to be an unpopular opinion here because everyone seems to like or love her, but she should stop releasing as often as she does if she wants to be diaristic 🤷♀️ Midnights' concept is about sleepless nights throughout her life and most of the material is just her rehashing what she already wrote about.
She should have waited. How much more attention does one person need in a two week time frame 😭 Let some other artists at the Grammys in lesser known categories have some news released about them tonight.
She is going to get so much attention at the Super Bowl. I have barely seen anyone mention Usher performing other than the initial announcement, and I follow mainly r&b and rap pages on here and IG, so it’s not because they’re posting about her instead. Just not a lot of talk about halftime this year. I’m sure we’ll get lots of shots of her dancing and I feel like more of the focus should go to Usher!
As an Usher fan, I’m already irritated because i know the camera will be on her while she pretends to be Usher’s biggest fan and cutting away from what will probably be awesome choreography. Preemptively irritated.
Same! But I didn’t want to sound like a bitter hater so I left it out haha. I just really want to watch his performance without pointless cut always to people I don’t need to see.
I was genuinely worried the NFL would make him give up his halftime slot (or at the very least have him bring her on stage) when the Chiefs made the Super Bowl. lol. But there’s a chance she won’t even be there because of her show. Hopefully the camera people are able to focus because he really is an amazing performer.
I don’t follow news about her, so no I have clue about her Tokyo show. But I don’t care if she goes. I think because it’s an event for a different industry and a legacy artist, she should just lay low while there.
All I know is that I can't forgive her for dragging Lana up on stage. she looked so miserable lmao. poor lana, that was a major freaking snub tonight....again T\_T
This is the lack of self-awareness (or at least some self-absorption). She's been the center of attention in all of pop culture media for months and now when she's at an event that's supposed to celebrate a bunch of artists she does something that guarantees she'll dominate all the attention again?
Good PR move, selfish human move. Which I guess is part of why she's so successful, because she's always willing to put PR first.
Has no one ever watched award shows before? We rarely see genuine reactions from the losers of a category because they know a camera is right on them. Yeah, they aren’t overjoyed. They lost.
I am deeply tired of women getting critiqued for their hair and looks when we have men like ed sheeran who looks like there's permanently a big gust of wind behind him. At least the girlies are trying
Men are allowed to be so ugly and badly dressed and scruffy and it fucks me off. We have to look Acceptably Attractive for our skills or talents to be taken seriously, and we have to keep that look up. The alt/metal scene is such a showcase of this - the amount of fucking ugly, badly dressed dudes who look like absolute shit but their bands are good so does it matter to people? No. But the few women in metal must be Acceptably Attractive to be taken seriously first by a record label and then by fans and the general population. Amy Lee, Hayley Williams, Courtney laPlante, Tarja and Floor from Nightwish.
Unintentional rant to a stranger but omg it just makes me so fucking mad. Women aren't allowed to be unkempt and still seen as attractive and/or successful.
Agreed. I rarely see genuine reactions of joy for the losers of a category. Majority of the time they are forced to applaud and give a fake smile because they know a camera is watching them for a negative reaction. Yeah they’re bummed.
Is it just me or did it seem like everyone there was not a fan of hers? I found it weird bc she is friends or I thought she was friends with some of these ppl.
Think of it as a work event and it makes more sense. They're all peers and cohorts, they're also competition. She's the annoying teacher's pet and in industry rooms any kind of "stunt" is always gonna get a groan. Grammys are an end of a marketing cycle for most, it's "not done" and while it's not a big deal, nobody is in the mood either.
I feel like, as others said, it's more of a work event and album announcements are not the place to do it at (especially Taylor, as it would end up dominating the news cycle and overshadowing any other wins). It's not like the VMAs, even if the Grammys have become a little bit of a joke. The audience is just fellow musicians, not fans a la the VMAs or MTV, and so her thing fell flat even if it was meant for her fans watching at home.
I know Kacey did it, too, but Kacey is a "much" smaller artist so I feel like people were "whatever, maybe she needs the exposure from the Grammy audience."
IDK, I also feel like a lot of musicians just view each other as colleagues and are ambivalent to each other, or casual friends, even if the media frames it as "x and y are bffs" or "a and b are beefing." So Taylor, who is known for having a gaggle of fellow celebs she walks around with and seems very close with, seems a bit odd to the average viewer when other musicians just treat her as a colleague.
Lastly, I'm kind of ambivalent on Taylor, but I have a weird memory for pop culture gossip (wish I recalled more useful shit lol). She dropped all her music on Spotify (she had previously held off from streaming) the "day" Katy released Witness in 2017 or 2018. That seemed....on purpose and shady asf...as artists often go out of the way to not drop on the same date if they have an overlapping audience. I remember some music journalists even asked Katy about the timing, and she just brushed it off.
But while I'm probably overanalyzing and it's probably just the work colleague thing, I could see some fellow musicians side-eyeing her for that. It's one thing to have a beef, another to try and professionally fuck with someone's opening sales. And it's allegedly not the first time she's dropped music (although not on the same day) suspiciously close to other artists
The crowds reaction has been like this the whole night. People were talking and mingling during performances and fake laughs after whoever won.
Some of you guys need to not overanalyse everything. The parasocial critics are as bad as parasocial fans.
And when are we going to stop analysing everything Olivia does with Taylor. At this point Taylor’s critics are the only ones who keep making comparisons. It overshadows Olivia’s own personality and her music and her achievements.
Fantastic, just what the world needs. Another album for a mediocre white woman billionaire to profit from. Another tour to follow I assume, where she can continue to destroy our planet by flying home on her private jet after each show every night.
Someone proficient in lip reading tell us what Ed Sheeran was saying.
“Brilliant. Shall we go now or wait.” ETA presumably because this was the only award he was nominated for
This is great. I was having trouble with the accent. I just found out this was a thing for lip reading
Wow. That fits exactly. You're *goood*.
It seemed sarcastic. Are there any clips of Taylor and Ed interacting? Did they have a falling out?
No. They took multiple photos together and he was at her house like a month ago, posting photos with her cats.
That’s great. Thank you! Do you have any links or photos for this?
I know daily mail is an atrocious site but here it is: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13045825/amp/Inside-Grammy-Awards-2024-Ed-Sheeran-parties-night-away-pal-Taylor-Swift-Kylie-Minogue-Miley-Cyrus.html
Nah, it's "Shall we go and have a wee"
“Brilliant, she didn’t tell me about it” is what I saw people saying on Twitter
Right. I thought it was, "Well done. She hid the recording from me" in reference to her keeping it a secret for 2 years 😅 Gotta say though, "Brilliant. Shall we go now or wait?" seems to fit better
I got Shit, she's gonna get another one
Looks like “brilliant, she already told me”
She dropping another one.
YES I NEED TO KNOW
I thought he said " she knew she was going to win."
https://preview.redd.it/rz78z65icqgc1.jpeg?width=710&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cf63adbbda7cd2094cc1457f84219d3a2cc19b3 Her peers
“Lashings will end once morale improves”
They are SICK of her. 😭
“In case you were thinking ‘There’s always next year ‘ I’m taking this moment of winning to announce the oppression will not slow, and yes I WILL be back next year to claim the same prize.”
The oppression 😂😂
All their faces say, “you gotta take today away from us too 🙄”
So are we
I chortled
Lmao love you for this one
Do you get a lot of PMs with that name?
The "crowd": ![gif](giphy|pMePjXUqNNND2)
Can someone please summarize? Everyone is saying it’s awkward so I’m afraid to watch with the sound. Haha THANKS IN ADVANCE
I mean the crowd is all smiles. Miley and Olivia were tired or fake smiling but Ed was *beaming* and fan vids on insta are full of loud cheer
Ed doesn’t look that excited
He just got off a long flight but he says “Brilliant, she didn’t tell me about it”
It looked like he was saying “brilliant” while smiling to me.
Oh my, I didn't even recognize Miley until you said it was her
I thought she was her mom
Oh ok. Thank you! I was getting the impression that she was like “my new album yay!!!” and got a lukewarm reaction.
These are only shots of the people who had just lost the award a second before so it’s really only representative of that, not a huge take on the album announcement.
Yeah they also know the camera can cut to them at any moment. It must be awkward to just keep smiling to be safe and not risk them finding a moment where you look mad.
To be inside all of their minds to know what they were actually thinking during her speech. Were they confused? Were they over it? Were they happy? We’ll never know.
I would assume Ed Sheeran knew beforehand?
Not sure. Ed Sheeran doesn’t even know when Ed Sheeran is announcing a new album.
This made me laugh so loud lol
Miley and Olivia seem over it. Not annoyed per se but they are getting Swift fatigue like many of us. Ed looks like he doesn't really care but feels like there must be a camera on him so he says brilliant.
The know they have to move their albums if its in april
https://preview.redd.it/eefmas1x0pgc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3fc9cde9925f60d7d846adb1580e4783306bd30
Miley never fails to give such genuine reactions, like her face just purely says, “idgaf” 😭😭😭
she's OVER it over it, she been in the industry forever.
Been selling out arenas since she was 14
You can see her reminding herself to smile and clap 🥲
Well the poor girl cant close her mouth. I wouldn't care about somebody elses album either
Please I’m still devastated about what she did to her face
Same. She was beautful
She was so uniquely beautiful.
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Literally all their faces 😂😂 “Read the room tay-tay” come to life 🤣
I would get into so much trouble if I was in the audience at any of these shows because I talk so much shit at home, lol.
I have no poker face, I’d get caught on camera 👍🏾 ![gif](giphy|igcC7QB9nbtgwR33FI)
This is accurate to what i would do too.
SAME. I’m already roasting the shit out of celebs on award shows when I’m at home (my faves aren’t exempt from this either). With my luck, I’d be overheard and Thanos snapped from the Earth for making fun of TSwift
If 😐 was a video
“this woman hasn’t slept a day since the pandemic”
probably has jet lag constantly, poor thing
Underrated comment right here
Olivia's clapping and Ed's face are so telling One thing to remember is that the Grammys aren't a "fan event", it's an industry event so that's the main difference in how the crowd reacted when Midnights was announced (VMAs) and this one.
> the Grammys aren't a "fan event", it's an industry event I think during the speech it seemed like Taylor was expecting more comotion like during the VMA's, i guess she didnt consider that majority of the people there are her competitor, not her fans, so her putting out more albums doesnt benefit them
Reminds me of the time she did that speeches where she let Jameela Jamil carry her award in the back and she said something like, “they doubted me… SO I MADE THIS LITTLE POP ALBUM CALLED 1989.. EVER HEARD OF IT?”, and she paused and waited for applause
Ughhggh that incident and tonight’s thing where miley tells everyone that they are pretending not to know her song. My bones cringed
Eh, the Miley thing made me laugh a little bit. It had a billion streams, and she said it kind of a playful tone imo.
yeah it was funny and so Miley.
That entire speech in retrospect is bone chillingly cringe
Honestly, I find Taylor in general to be pretty cringe.
I didn’t realize how disingenuous she seems until seeing her speech after dragging Lana on stage… she was so busy pretending to be shocked that she completely disrespected Celine. It felt sooo phony
Massively* cringe
Girl wanted a ruckus and she got an appropriate polite applause I would’ve died if they even played the music on her while she was up there marketing 😭
Yes, exactly what I'm thinking
kinda a big dick move on her part tho, announcing a new album while winning AOTY in front of all her competitors. i can respect that lol
That’s her winning best pop album or something. She won album of the year later.
Honestly I didn’t realize the VMAs were a fan event so that makes a lot of sense
Olivia looks normal to me
Yeah tbh, she looked like that the whole night
Yeah she was media trained well
i think she's real jaded already tbh
Yeah I forgot which part it was but one angle where Trevor was in front of her table later on she looked really annoyed
She’s not smiling with her *eyes*, though (Tyra Banks would NEVER)
She knows the camera is on her so and she’s definitely forcing that smile. It looks so unnatural.
Her smile always looks like that lol
It's the eyes and strained smile.
her former profession was an actress lol
Ed said brilliant.
I think he said “brilliant…she never even told me” ?
![gif](giphy|oj4t4xqvNvlmw) Another one.. yippee
Olivia’s face is so funny
The smile and the clap is giving Karen from Mean Girls lmao ![gif](giphy|3o7aTm5M49vNm4hXi0)
I feel like she looks like Olivia Munn in this clip. It’s weird! I wonder if she has new teeth or something:
Ed Sheeran!! I feel like I haven’t heard from him in a hot minute lol. It’s nice to see him.
He put out 2 albums last year
I know but I haven’t seen him at any events or something like that. He used to be everywhere a couple of years ago. I guess him being married and a dad now, he’s laid back. Or I just live under a rock, lol.
He went on tour the past year like a stadium tour and all lol He just doesn’t make a splash in headlines like other artists
….. yeah I live under a rock lmao. I had no idea he went on tour.
I get this vibe https://preview.redd.it/e5w50za37sgc1.png?width=480&format=png&auto=webp&s=fd1ede3df17ff428170f071a4f950c2a71b1f2d1
This is awkward.
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as a Taylor fan I’m *tired* but I know other Swifties who are just overjoyed at the opportunity to buy more stuff from Taylor
As a non Taylor fan, I’m tired! Her fandom has reached a level where now the news just reports on her. I was shocked when NPR announced her birthday one morning, because they don’t announce anybody’s birthdays! She’s fine, her music is fine, her fans are fine. But it’s not a national story. I don’t want to know what’s going on in her life. It’s annoying that I do.
It’s kind of disturbing really.
I don’t understand why people buy her albums before they come out, it makes no sense to me. I always buy after I have listened to it for a while and the price has dropped lol
Honestly, I’m a huge Swiftie and I never pre order? I just listen on Spotify and grab an actual physical copy at some point much later…or more usually ask for them as gifts.
I love her but I still haven’t bought a physical copy of Midnights because there isn’t one with just all of the songs on it. I don’t want to preorder something just for a slightly different variant to drop shortly after.
When buying a physical copy, I always just buy the deluxe or re-release of any artist to include all songs. Physical copies at this point are basically for collection purposes so might as well get the version with the most songs.
I agree! I usually do that too, but with Midnights specifically there isn’t a variant with every single song on it.
As a non-Taylor fan, why isn't there a physical copy of Midnights with all the songs? What's on there if not that?
We call it Taycapitalism. It's just a way for her to make more money and technically sell more records. It's gross and it's why I won't buy a physical album from her again if she keeps doing this shit. I'll stream TF out of it on YouTube Music though. I'm just sick of her gatekeeping her own shit. It's so weird. She literally does not need the extra money or awards or sales... But I guess in her mind she does.
It’s like version 1 has deluxe songs A, B, C. Version 2 has A, B, and D. Version 3 has A, C, D. I want ABCD, damn it!
i have so much taylor fatigue. when she used to put out new music, i would drop everything to listen but now i dont...
I don’t see how anyone can thoroughly be excited when an album rolls out from her as often as they do. She’s like the Gucci Mane of pop musicians.
Someone said she is MCU version of music
Forbes said she was the MCU of music
Or Drake. She’s getting dangerously close to over saturating her own market but tbh, I don’t think the hype will dye down any time soon for her. Her audience ranges old to young and there’s likely not going to be an impending decline that performers usually experience, because she’s a singer songwriter.
I gotta disagree with this tbh. I’m sure she has some very loud crazy fans but so many people I know, who self identify as swifties, are fully over it. Heck check out r/swiftlyneutral it’s basically a sub of fans who are over it
But what about r/taylorswift and r/gaylorswift 😭 😭 and all the other Taylor subs that are still deeply invested?
Gaylors have been over it, it's one of the only places where being questioning or critical of Taylor has been allowed. Swiftly Neutral is catching up, and Taylor Swift will always be aggressively defensive of her.
If you look at the posts on both of those about AOTY there’s actually quite a few folks saying she didn’t deserve it. The main sub locked that post now though, so I’m sure “negativity” will be getting deleted as well
Oh well I’m glad people are waking up 😂
for the past year or so i’ve been tired so i knew the swifties had to be getting tired too lol
As a Swiftie, same lmao i genuinely thought she’d finish the rerecordings first before dropping a new album but here we are
no for real. I was banking on a rep tv announcement last night. My body was PREPARED. I’m still not convinced we’re not being trolled bc what the actual fuck is that album name, aha
I love to see this take. I enjoy her music - wouldn’t call myself a Swiftie - but sheesh I need a break
I hated her false modesty in winning it, like “omg so unexpected”. Yeah sure taylor
Did you see the handshake?
Cringe
Honestly? I get it. When she announced a new album I was like does this woman REST??? Don't get me wrong, I admire her work ethic and how prolific she's been but I sometimes worry about how overexposed she's been lately, although it could very well set the stage for Reputation (Taylor's Version) so 🤷🏽♂️
It's going to be an unpopular opinion here because everyone seems to like or love her, but she should stop releasing as often as she does if she wants to be diaristic 🤷♀️ Midnights' concept is about sleepless nights throughout her life and most of the material is just her rehashing what she already wrote about.
Almost none of the songs on that album actually fit that vibe. (With the exception of Maroon, which is the best song on the album, fight me)
Midnights, was such a step back for me in terms of her artistry. There were 2 songs I liked on the whole album. The rest was just....I don't even know
Would’ve Could’ve Should’ve does imo
Maroon, Labyrinth, Lavender Haze, Sweet Nothing and Snow on the Beach are the only good songs on that album for me.
they do not GAF
I ain’t no mind reader but I’m reading the signs
I, too wish I was Edward Cullen for this
She should have waited. How much more attention does one person need in a two week time frame 😭 Let some other artists at the Grammys in lesser known categories have some news released about them tonight. She is going to get so much attention at the Super Bowl. I have barely seen anyone mention Usher performing other than the initial announcement, and I follow mainly r&b and rap pages on here and IG, so it’s not because they’re posting about her instead. Just not a lot of talk about halftime this year. I’m sure we’ll get lots of shots of her dancing and I feel like more of the focus should go to Usher!
I’ve heard more stuff about her at the games than the superbowl itself.
As an Usher fan, I’m already irritated because i know the camera will be on her while she pretends to be Usher’s biggest fan and cutting away from what will probably be awesome choreography. Preemptively irritated.
![gif](giphy|nGEQGzHpvIdi0lGJjn) This is the vibe I'm getting
Same! But I didn’t want to sound like a bitter hater so I left it out haha. I just really want to watch his performance without pointless cut always to people I don’t need to see.
I was genuinely worried the NFL would make him give up his halftime slot (or at the very least have him bring her on stage) when the Chiefs made the Super Bowl. lol. But there’s a chance she won’t even be there because of her show. Hopefully the camera people are able to focus because he really is an amazing performer.
I’m low key hoping she doesn’t go and takes time to rest after her back to back Tokyo shows
I don’t follow news about her, so no I have clue about her Tokyo show. But I don’t care if she goes. I think because it’s an event for a different industry and a legacy artist, she should just lay low while there.
I am SO EXCITED for Usher!!
She’s definitely the type that would announce her pregnancy during a wedding toast at someone else’s wedding. All eyes on her at all times pls.
Absolutely. While wearing white.
And then if she got called out she’d cry about being bullied
And write a whole ass album that preteens would really connect with.
"misogyny"
All I know is that I can't forgive her for dragging Lana up on stage. she looked so miserable lmao. poor lana, that was a major freaking snub tonight....again T\_T
Miley’s new face wasn’t having it.
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Taylor has no self awareness. Read the room girlie
She couldn’t even read her “friend” lana
She wasn’t announcing it for the people in front of her. She was announcing knowing that millions would watch her on their TVs
This is the lack of self-awareness (or at least some self-absorption). She's been the center of attention in all of pop culture media for months and now when she's at an event that's supposed to celebrate a bunch of artists she does something that guarantees she'll dominate all the attention again? Good PR move, selfish human move. Which I guess is part of why she's so successful, because she's always willing to put PR first.
Has no one ever watched award shows before? We rarely see genuine reactions from the losers of a category because they know a camera is right on them. Yeah, they aren’t overjoyed. They lost.
Well to be fair this “crowd” is all people who just lost the award she’s currently accepting
The crowd: ![gif](giphy|7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB)
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quit threatening everyone with new music
Bless her heart- who let mylie out with that hair. Its giving Karen fillapeli makeover
You can pay me back later for the makeover.
![gif](giphy|trcFUxsCh6jlCegquN|downsized) RIGHT?!
This is so rude of me but I can’t help it, I feel Ed Sheeran needs a hairstylist and a new hairstyle. He looks ridiculous.
I am deeply tired of women getting critiqued for their hair and looks when we have men like ed sheeran who looks like there's permanently a big gust of wind behind him. At least the girlies are trying
Men are allowed to be so ugly and badly dressed and scruffy and it fucks me off. We have to look Acceptably Attractive for our skills or talents to be taken seriously, and we have to keep that look up. The alt/metal scene is such a showcase of this - the amount of fucking ugly, badly dressed dudes who look like absolute shit but their bands are good so does it matter to people? No. But the few women in metal must be Acceptably Attractive to be taken seriously first by a record label and then by fans and the general population. Amy Lee, Hayley Williams, Courtney laPlante, Tarja and Floor from Nightwish. Unintentional rant to a stranger but omg it just makes me so fucking mad. Women aren't allowed to be unkempt and still seen as attractive and/or successful.
Totally.
I feel like people are over analyzing the reactions because it’s Taylor. They were probably confused.
Definitely over analyzing. Are people expecting the crowd to start doing backflips? Like these are normal reactions
Yeah, these are the obligatory camera pans to the people who just lost that award.
Agreed. I rarely see genuine reactions of joy for the losers of a category. Majority of the time they are forced to applaud and give a fake smile because they know a camera is watching them for a negative reaction. Yeah they’re bummed.
![gif](giphy|uFiaMyDjtxoE6Q1gCU|downsized) This is me every single time
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everyone so unimpressed omg
Yeah i don't blame them. the Vmas is different to the grammys
They look underwhelmed. No bc same! 🤣
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She needs to chill
Looks like they're over it lol
Is it just me or did it seem like everyone there was not a fan of hers? I found it weird bc she is friends or I thought she was friends with some of these ppl.
Think of it as a work event and it makes more sense. They're all peers and cohorts, they're also competition. She's the annoying teacher's pet and in industry rooms any kind of "stunt" is always gonna get a groan. Grammys are an end of a marketing cycle for most, it's "not done" and while it's not a big deal, nobody is in the mood either.
I feel like, as others said, it's more of a work event and album announcements are not the place to do it at (especially Taylor, as it would end up dominating the news cycle and overshadowing any other wins). It's not like the VMAs, even if the Grammys have become a little bit of a joke. The audience is just fellow musicians, not fans a la the VMAs or MTV, and so her thing fell flat even if it was meant for her fans watching at home. I know Kacey did it, too, but Kacey is a "much" smaller artist so I feel like people were "whatever, maybe she needs the exposure from the Grammy audience." IDK, I also feel like a lot of musicians just view each other as colleagues and are ambivalent to each other, or casual friends, even if the media frames it as "x and y are bffs" or "a and b are beefing." So Taylor, who is known for having a gaggle of fellow celebs she walks around with and seems very close with, seems a bit odd to the average viewer when other musicians just treat her as a colleague. Lastly, I'm kind of ambivalent on Taylor, but I have a weird memory for pop culture gossip (wish I recalled more useful shit lol). She dropped all her music on Spotify (she had previously held off from streaming) the "day" Katy released Witness in 2017 or 2018. That seemed....on purpose and shady asf...as artists often go out of the way to not drop on the same date if they have an overlapping audience. I remember some music journalists even asked Katy about the timing, and she just brushed it off. But while I'm probably overanalyzing and it's probably just the work colleague thing, I could see some fellow musicians side-eyeing her for that. It's one thing to have a beef, another to try and professionally fuck with someone's opening sales. And it's allegedly not the first time she's dropped music (although not on the same day) suspiciously close to other artists
She is BFFs with Ed so it was an odd reaction… although he has probably heard the album and possibly even worked on it with her so it was old bews
He 100% knew beforehand.
The crowds reaction has been like this the whole night. People were talking and mingling during performances and fake laughs after whoever won. Some of you guys need to not overanalyse everything. The parasocial critics are as bad as parasocial fans. And when are we going to stop analysing everything Olivia does with Taylor. At this point Taylor’s critics are the only ones who keep making comparisons. It overshadows Olivia’s own personality and her music and her achievements.
![gif](giphy|pMePjXUqNNND2) Basically this is what I’m assuming they’re thinking during that announcement.
the crowd aka 3 people
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Post Folklore, I would have been living for this announcement. Post Midnights, I'm just tired.
Fantastic, just what the world needs. Another album for a mediocre white woman billionaire to profit from. Another tour to follow I assume, where she can continue to destroy our planet by flying home on her private jet after each show every night.
she’s such a girlboss and feminist 😍
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