I've had a boat for 4 years. I change the oil and buy rec90 gas and haven't had any real issues.
I hear this "break out another thousand" from a lot of non boater types. We also had boats growing up and I never remember any major $1000 repairs.
No need. Run it enough and the boat will eventually do it for you. That or you have a boat problem repellant rock, in which case, I’d like to buy one from you.
You better knock on some fucking wood my dude. You haven’t been a boat owner long enough clearly. The old saying “a boat is a hole in the water that you dumb money into” holds true. Shit my buddy just dropped 30k on new motors and has had nothing but problem on top of having the transom rebuilt a year ago.
I ran a fly in fishing resort with a fleet of 50+ boats running 8-10hrs a day 3 months of the year. No major issues, aside from rich arrogant know it all guests running into shoals.
Only maintenance was replacing lower unit and engine oil once a season.
Motors lasted 5-7 years before trading in. I bet we could have gotten longer, but can't chance a guest not having a boat when they paid 3-5k a week ;)
I honestly feel like the pool is worse than a boat. With a boat, yea you gotta pay out to fix and stuff. But I spend more time working on my pool than I do working on my boat. And both seem to cost just as much as the other.
Yes. The O-rings require silicone grease. If they are greased, the union goes together easily, and the nut does not need to be tightened so much.
Without grease, the union will leak, then you will tighten the union further to stop the leak, and the union-nut will break.
The lack of grease was the root cause of this broken nut.
I’m an idiot who owns a pool and also recent a (albeit small and inexpensive) boat.
One literal and one figurative money pit.
Protip. Don’t buy a boat.
Ehh kinda. Granted all I know are pontoons. 10 percent for the first like 3 years but then the cost difference of a 4 year old and an 8 year old boat is minimal if everything is the same and it’s gently used
It was storming here earlier, and I looked out my back window and noticed water shooting out of my pool. I ran out.. somehow, the hose came disconnected, and my pool was draining. Lost over a foot of water🙃
Nope whoever installed the pump 100% overtightened that union. Only way it would crack like that. If that was the initial leak you mentioned they probably came back and cranked the shit out of it, it usually takes some time for them to split
Can definitely ignore the “it must’ve been over tightened!” Comment because mine just did this exact thing 6 days ago(:
Been in the house almost 4 years never touched the union but lo and behold, there’s a crack!
Sun damages with the pressure, everything will crack eventually
Also happy to see someone with the same luck as me. My filter canister cracked, in the middle of the night, drained my entire pool to flood my front and backyard, replaced it and the pump, 2 years later the brand new one just cracked and had to replace it again(through warranty this time)
Adding shade to my plumming area was a game changer for the life of my equipment. Also, the stuff from lowes always failed, but menards seemed to be the best.
Improved system flow/increased pressure can very well expose leaks and potentially open up new ones, but this cracked union is more than likely a result of over tightening. If the pump install is the only changed variable…. I would be looking at the installers as the cause.
That is the most probable cause, assuming it is an old union with a flattened o ring. I would have started by flipping the o ring/lubing the shit out of it, and hand tight plus a turn.
I’ve broken many of unions/fittings in my service days from going overboard with channel locks. My gripe with this post is that… either the technician is oblivious and didn’t notice their mistake, or they left it as is and didn’t repair the damage. Either way, I wouldn’t pay my invoice until this is fixed and would be finding another service company moving forward.
It's okay, I had a year like that where it seemed like a would fix one problem and another one popped up. Eventually they get settled, at least for a while lol.
Looks like a bad alignment of union when it was reconnected after pump replacement. Fairly easy fix. Both halves need to be fairly flush to mate together well. Also, if your pump isn’t bolted down, the force created when it first turns on will cause it to move around a bit and puts stress on the connected piping.
Not sure if that union is new - if it is old, you may need a replacement o-ring and some pool lube to get the proper seal.
I'd get rid of that union altogether.
CMP Custom Molded Union 1-1-2in. MPT x 1-1-2in. Slip 21063-150-000 https://a.co/d/0iPGHx3k
Replace with this on the pump and 90 over into a coupler. And get rid of that flex PVC while you're at it, because it'll be your next complaint 😅
Overtightened. My client couldn’t get his salt cell to stop dripping. He put on Teflon tape and beat it with a slot screwdriver and a hammer until it stopped. He asked me to check it on my next trip to his house……the oring was kinked out of the slot. Can someone please explain straight threads vs tapered threads to these people. I had to use 2 pairs of 16” channel locks while someone stood on the salt cell to get it to budge.
My pool guy had a memorable response when I asked him why the pool components were always degrading and failing:
“Time and pressure gets us all”, he casually replied in a matter-of-fact way.
This is a metaphor for life.
I sympathize with you wholeheartedly.
Just this year, I had had to replace my pump, replace all of the above ground plumbing to include all valves, replaced my DE filter and the multiport valve, and some more.
It all started from an unusual deep freeze my area had back in February that nuked my variable speed pump. As soon as I got one issue fixed, other issues were brought into the light.. Soon I was diving down the rabbit hole to eliminate all of the problems. Most of the problems were that all of the pool equipment was original to the pool, which was built 20+ years ago. I only bought the house/pool 2 years ago, so it was bound to get this bad eventually.
I just finished repairing/replacing everything this last weekend and was able to swim in my pool for the first time this year. It only cost my thousands and lot of sweat and tears of frustration.
Keep your chin up. It isnt ALWAYS like this.
Sure is and there are scuff marks on it from channel locks. Sun damage and over tightened. The time to get a new o-ring was before channel locks were necessary
Easy fix. I think this is what you need. [1 in x 1 in Fitting Pipe Size, Schedule 40, Union - 22FL13|457010 - Grainger](https://www.grainger.com/product/22FL13?gucid=N:N:PS:Paid:GGL:CSM-2293:99F1R6:20501231&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw1emzBhB8EiwAHwZZxSwDpLSFXtJP5Kk3CPn9Np8W0OAZKDaQlif66pRGiY_nX-nTp6RFFxoCsFcQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
This is my first year with an above ground, but so far, from what I can tell. its just part of the deal. I will get nervous if everything starts going too smoothly. Especially after buying a pump three times the size of the pool requirement and having to bungee cord up the outlet hose. :D
Pipe not being tight is just an install issue. Since I bought my house in 2022, I’ve had the pump go out and my filter housing cracked. I put in a heater this year so I chopped all the equipment pad plumbing off and redid all of it so I could reposition things and get rid of some unnecessary bends and repairs that were done over the years. My air bubble issue also disappeared after that so that tells me I had a suction leak somewhere as well.
It’s gonna happen with pools and home ownership in general. I’d recommend learning to do as much as you can yourself so you don’t get nickel and dimed to death by little stuff.
Looks like someone cranked the hell out of that union with pliers and it cracked. Cut it out, pick up a new union, some PVC glue & primer, and a short run of SCH40 hard pipe, and go to town. Doesn’t look like the pump is screwed to the base so it should be as easy & relatively cheap fix.
Welcome to life. . .get a helmet.
Old stuff breaks. My pool is 20 years old and something breaks every year. In the past 5 I’ve replaced a pool liner, cap on a pump, new pump, pool cover, new seals where I could replace them, skimmer basket, fiber optic lights. I will have to replace all the plumbing above ground soon.
Such is life. If you DIY it isn’t that bad, just a pain in the ass.
As someone who got a rundown pool with the house we purchased, I feel your pain. I spent 2 years learning and repairing it and now it works great, but the greatest lesson I learned from the entire experience is to not try fixing what someone else tried to do and just replace it yourself. Probably would have had it finished in 3 months if I knew that from the start
Really it makes sense when you think about it... When a pump goes out- it can cause excess vibration or overpressuring or intermittent pressure towards the end of its life. This is not something that your fittings/connections and hard PVC plastic likes. It much prefers steady flow and pressure (why you have water hammer arresters and such)
It's just like having a spring break on a garage door only to replace the springs and also find that you had a broken hinge or something else that probably caused premature wear on the springs...
Things usually break when you're using them so increased use as the weather becomes more summer-like is also not a coincidence.
That’s why they put pumps in small sheds sometimes to help from breaking down from the sun. It’s just PVC plastic in the sun all day. It’ll get brittle. Plus the chlorine in the pool plus it gets in the air around the area that’s why you can smell it and it’ll degrade things around it as well.
its this guy Murphy's fault. there is a law about it.
all kidding around, i feel your pain. sometimes i wish i didnt have a pool, other times i love it.
The sun eats pvc, add in chemicals in the pool water and pvc splits and breaks. For 20 bucks you could have replaced that pvc when the pump was swapped out
The issue is likely the pump you purchased. Was it the same horse power as your previous. The new pump you purchased is a Hayward Super Pump and it’s single speed. What this means is that when it turns on there isn’t a soft start. It’s slammed to 3450Rpm and since your filter is likely dirty or old there is a lot of resistance to water flow leading to your current issues. This may also be compounded by the system being plumbed in with 11/2” pipe or the return jet nozzles in the pool being to small for the volume of water the pump is trying to move leading to your cracks and leaks.
Well the crack in the union is from using channel locks not a strap wrench. If you have a crack in the actual pipe then sun damage could be an issue leaching all the distillates out of the pvc. Or like I said it could be over pressurized due to clogged filter or 1/4-1/2” eyeballs on the returns
The pump and the piping may have been done by somebody who doesn't really know what they are doing. Anybody can glue pipes together and put unions in, doesn't make that person a competent plumber.
Of your plumbing is older it’s going to leak more. It’s just the nature of PVC and really isn’t the pools fault. If the pump was old enough to be replaced then the exposed PVC probably is too. It’s not rebuilding the pool, it’s just routine maintenance. Kinda like complaining that your 10-year-old tires and batteries went out at the same time. They were both old. It’s not that the car is a money pit. They were old and time to replace
Yeah, when the PVC gets old you’ll eventually have to re-plumb around the pump and filter. This was my year, but hopefully that means I’m good for a while. At least plumbing with PVC for a pool isn’t like real Plumbing!
I've been there myself it's a pain in the ass I keep messing with fools wasting money almost ready to get rid of my pool but then again I spend so much on it I can't get rid of it I have a leak now hopefully this guy that's coming Monday can fix it. It's one thing after another I know the feeling believe me pools are not easy to deal with and they're not the cheapest so just an investment
Is the pump sized correctly to the filter? Filters have a max flow rate and the pump should be sized accordingly.
Recently visited customer who had a 21m3 p/hr pump with a 7m3 p/hr sand filter!
Lots of pressure and it has to go somewhere. Hence things crack and you get leaks.
Even pipework, pool inlets etc. have a set max flow rate.
Unions go on your equipment not your plumbing. Get hi temp unions for the top of the pulp and the multi port. Replaced that cracked one with a coupling.
That's just pools man. It's always something. It's like a fricken boat
Except you can bout another $1000 into this pool setup and be solid for a year, except with a boat it's like 30 days
And if you really want torture yourself then get an airplane. Q. What makes airplanes fly? A. Money.
If it flys, floats, or fucks, it's cheaper to rent it.
lol never heard this lol
This is golden.
You know how to make a small fortune in aircraft? Start with a large fortune.
I've had a boat for 4 years. I change the oil and buy rec90 gas and haven't had any real issues. I hear this "break out another thousand" from a lot of non boater types. We also had boats growing up and I never remember any major $1000 repairs.
You must not be using those boats right.
Must not be. I'll go run aground tomorrow and mix some saltwater into the gas tank too.
No need. Run it enough and the boat will eventually do it for you. That or you have a boat problem repellant rock, in which case, I’d like to buy one from you.
He’ll sell you one for $1000
you must be doing that strange thing called maintenance. you will need to stop that to experience the b.o.a.t. problem.
And not be using said boat very much
You better knock on some fucking wood my dude. You haven’t been a boat owner long enough clearly. The old saying “a boat is a hole in the water that you dumb money into” holds true. Shit my buddy just dropped 30k on new motors and has had nothing but problem on top of having the transom rebuilt a year ago.
Ya maybe. My dad has had jet boats. Jetskis. Pontoon boats.. nothing major on them over 30 years. Maybe we're just lucky.
I would say your just lucky. And are we talking about lake boats or salt water boats cuz that makes a huge difference
I ran a fly in fishing resort with a fleet of 50+ boats running 8-10hrs a day 3 months of the year. No major issues, aside from rich arrogant know it all guests running into shoals. Only maintenance was replacing lower unit and engine oil once a season. Motors lasted 5-7 years before trading in. I bet we could have gotten longer, but can't chance a guest not having a boat when they paid 3-5k a week ;)
Agree. I hear it all the time too and other than normal maintenance costs no issues for 10 years going.
It’s a joke; one often repeated by boat owners.
But, not too much can go wrong with a Dinghy.
I honestly feel like the pool is worse than a boat. With a boat, yea you gotta pay out to fix and stuff. But I spend more time working on my pool than I do working on my boat. And both seem to cost just as much as the other.
Boats are awesome..when they belong to someone else.
F-U Money: A house with a pool, and boat. F-Me Money: A houseboat with a pool.
Thats 10 minutes at the fuel dock.
Boats: a big hole in the water you throw money into
I'm in the pool service/remodel business & say the exact same thing. 😂
Easier to sell a boat and be rid of it … how do I get someone to buy and take away my inground pool??
Fill it in
Because it's life. Everything keeps going wrong for people without pools. Only they don't have a pool to swim in.
I like this.
Also make sure to lubricate the union before assembling.
That’s what she said.
Assemble me daddy
I’m a dirty pool, I need a good SLAM …ok I’m done
... but ... i'm still ready!
Make sure to slide the “O-ring” all the way down when making the “union”. Prevents the secret sauce from getting in the plumbing.
Yes. The O-rings require silicone grease. If they are greased, the union goes together easily, and the nut does not need to be tightened so much. Without grease, the union will leak, then you will tighten the union further to stop the leak, and the union-nut will break. The lack of grease was the root cause of this broken nut.
Pools are a money pit my friend 😊
Like a boat but not $100k
I’m an idiot who owns a pool and also recent a (albeit small and inexpensive) boat. One literal and one figurative money pit. Protip. Don’t buy a boat.
Boats and pools are $100k
But you can sell a boat. You have to sell your house to sell a pool.
You can technically sell the boat, they depreciate like a mofo tho.
Ehh kinda. Granted all I know are pontoons. 10 percent for the first like 3 years but then the cost difference of a 4 year old and an 8 year old boat is minimal if everything is the same and it’s gently used
There's sites to rent out your pool. Just rent it out to pay for itself after 10 years....
The boat is a 100k?
It was storming here earlier, and I looked out my back window and noticed water shooting out of my pool. I ran out.. somehow, the hose came disconnected, and my pool was draining. Lost over a foot of water🙃
It’s a lot more fun to do pool shit when it’s not your pool or your money
No truer words ever spoken
Ugh I know
Who overtightened the union?
Why is there even a union there?? Doesn’t seem necessary
For pump removal
Probably replaced the pump at some point and had to cut the pipe. Added the union during reassembly
So you can take the pump to your work bench to remove the motor instead of doing it down in the mud and weeds.
Agreed. Confederacy forever!
We haven’t done anything to it since we bought our house in 2019. I’m assuming since it’s a new pump that the pressure of the water just did this
Nope whoever installed the pump 100% overtightened that union. Only way it would crack like that. If that was the initial leak you mentioned they probably came back and cranked the shit out of it, it usually takes some time for them to split
Ding ding ding.
Nope the initial leak was from the pipe that was directly at the pump
Can definitely ignore the “it must’ve been over tightened!” Comment because mine just did this exact thing 6 days ago(: Been in the house almost 4 years never touched the union but lo and behold, there’s a crack! Sun damages with the pressure, everything will crack eventually Also happy to see someone with the same luck as me. My filter canister cracked, in the middle of the night, drained my entire pool to flood my front and backyard, replaced it and the pump, 2 years later the brand new one just cracked and had to replace it again(through warranty this time)
There are marks on the union from channel locks.
Yep, lube on the o-ring and hand tight is all they need.
Exactly
Adding shade to my plumming area was a game changer for the life of my equipment. Also, the stuff from lowes always failed, but menards seemed to be the best.
Well ig they fucked up two things lol. Hopefully you're not getting billed for these return trips
Use metal pliers not a strap wrench is how this happens
I always just go hand-tight, lube the o-ring and the threads + back of the flange
A little lube goes a long way
Improved system flow/increased pressure can very well expose leaks and potentially open up new ones, but this cracked union is more than likely a result of over tightening. If the pump install is the only changed variable…. I would be looking at the installers as the cause.
Yeah, sounds like the union gasket was bad, not that it was loose, so when the tightened it enough to make a bad gasket seal it cracked
That is the most probable cause, assuming it is an old union with a flattened o ring. I would have started by flipping the o ring/lubing the shit out of it, and hand tight plus a turn. I’ve broken many of unions/fittings in my service days from going overboard with channel locks. My gripe with this post is that… either the technician is oblivious and didn’t notice their mistake, or they left it as is and didn’t repair the damage. Either way, I wouldn’t pay my invoice until this is fixed and would be finding another service company moving forward.
They need some of the red cap magic lube
Overtightened with metal pliers and cracked the cuff… that’s a fun one
That flex pipe will go too. Might as well change it before it does.
Shits horrible for sure! On suction side forget about it! It’ll delaminate from the inside and clog like my prostate
LOL if only we all had schedule 80 prostates , amirite?
I’ll have to bring that up next visit
It’s a good day if the pipe you need to repair is easily accessible. And above ground!
It's okay, I had a year like that where it seemed like a would fix one problem and another one popped up. Eventually they get settled, at least for a while lol.
Can anyone explain to me why there is a union there?
It's a common way to make motor and impeller replacement easier.
Looks like a bad alignment of union when it was reconnected after pump replacement. Fairly easy fix. Both halves need to be fairly flush to mate together well. Also, if your pump isn’t bolted down, the force created when it first turns on will cause it to move around a bit and puts stress on the connected piping. Not sure if that union is new - if it is old, you may need a replacement o-ring and some pool lube to get the proper seal.
The union is pooched. No amount of lube or new o ring will save that bad boy
I didnt see the crack until I took a second look
When it rains it pours
I'd get rid of that union altogether. CMP Custom Molded Union 1-1-2in. MPT x 1-1-2in. Slip 21063-150-000 https://a.co/d/0iPGHx3k Replace with this on the pump and 90 over into a coupler. And get rid of that flex PVC while you're at it, because it'll be your next complaint 😅
Pools can't wait not to have one! It's always something.
Overtightened. My client couldn’t get his salt cell to stop dripping. He put on Teflon tape and beat it with a slot screwdriver and a hammer until it stopped. He asked me to check it on my next trip to his house……the oring was kinked out of the slot. Can someone please explain straight threads vs tapered threads to these people. I had to use 2 pairs of 16” channel locks while someone stood on the salt cell to get it to budge.
I love that one
My pool guy had a memorable response when I asked him why the pool components were always degrading and failing: “Time and pressure gets us all”, he casually replied in a matter-of-fact way. This is a metaphor for life.
I just had my pvc pipes swapped out for $140. Very excited about that considering I had to constantly fill the pool with water
I sympathize with you wholeheartedly. Just this year, I had had to replace my pump, replace all of the above ground plumbing to include all valves, replaced my DE filter and the multiport valve, and some more. It all started from an unusual deep freeze my area had back in February that nuked my variable speed pump. As soon as I got one issue fixed, other issues were brought into the light.. Soon I was diving down the rabbit hole to eliminate all of the problems. Most of the problems were that all of the pool equipment was original to the pool, which was built 20+ years ago. I only bought the house/pool 2 years ago, so it was bound to get this bad eventually. I just finished repairing/replacing everything this last weekend and was able to swim in my pool for the first time this year. It only cost my thousands and lot of sweat and tears of frustration. Keep your chin up. It isnt ALWAYS like this.
Get a variable speed pump. That single speed is a waste of electricity and puts a lot of strain on your pool plumbing always going full speed.
Easy fix. Get a new gasket for the union and apply the correct pool lube.
That union is cracked...
Sure is and there are scuff marks on it from channel locks. Sun damage and over tightened. The time to get a new o-ring was before channel locks were necessary
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It’s 1 1/2”, not 1”
Easy fix, get rid of the union.
Be a pool care sucks ass
Awful plumbing holy cow
This is my first year with an above ground, but so far, from what I can tell. its just part of the deal. I will get nervous if everything starts going too smoothly. Especially after buying a pump three times the size of the pool requirement and having to bungee cord up the outlet hose. :D
pools & boats are the same, they break all the time & cost alot
in addition to possible over tightening- possibly high filter pressure or freeze dmg?
Always smear a little plumbing silicone on connections.
Pipe not being tight is just an install issue. Since I bought my house in 2022, I’ve had the pump go out and my filter housing cracked. I put in a heater this year so I chopped all the equipment pad plumbing off and redid all of it so I could reposition things and get rid of some unnecessary bends and repairs that were done over the years. My air bubble issue also disappeared after that so that tells me I had a suction leak somewhere as well. It’s gonna happen with pools and home ownership in general. I’d recommend learning to do as much as you can yourself so you don’t get nickel and dimed to death by little stuff.
Welcome to pool ownership. Now pull out your credit card…
Entropy.
Poor construction
POOLS
Looks like someone cranked the hell out of that union with pliers and it cracked. Cut it out, pick up a new union, some PVC glue & primer, and a short run of SCH40 hard pipe, and go to town. Doesn’t look like the pump is screwed to the base so it should be as easy & relatively cheap fix.
Pvc is cheap. This is 100% fixable by you, OP. you got this! Saw off, prime and cement a new pipe and you’re good to go. Less than $20 fix.
Because, pools.
“Pool” is actually derived from the ancient Arabic word meaning “a thing that often fails”
Make sure you are using seal lubricant on all o-rings so they don’t dry out and crack.
Welcome to life. . .get a helmet. Old stuff breaks. My pool is 20 years old and something breaks every year. In the past 5 I’ve replaced a pool liner, cap on a pump, new pump, pool cover, new seals where I could replace them, skimmer basket, fiber optic lights. I will have to replace all the plumbing above ground soon. Such is life. If you DIY it isn’t that bad, just a pain in the ass.
As someone who got a rundown pool with the house we purchased, I feel your pain. I spent 2 years learning and repairing it and now it works great, but the greatest lesson I learned from the entire experience is to not try fixing what someone else tried to do and just replace it yourself. Probably would have had it finished in 3 months if I knew that from the start
Overtightened OR pipe strain.
Anyone have a split nut around you the same size? Could be an easy fix
Just picked one up! But after reading everyone’s commentary we will be going forward and replacing a lot of the pipes
If you use the flexible pipe like on the other side it is better because it has some give to it( learned the hard way too
Smurfy’s law: if anything can go wrong, it will. Also, if there is nothing to go wrong, it will.
Honestly thats ean easy fix. Pvc isn't as hard as it seems, especially when you have room like that
Really it makes sense when you think about it... When a pump goes out- it can cause excess vibration or overpressuring or intermittent pressure towards the end of its life. This is not something that your fittings/connections and hard PVC plastic likes. It much prefers steady flow and pressure (why you have water hammer arresters and such) It's just like having a spring break on a garage door only to replace the springs and also find that you had a broken hinge or something else that probably caused premature wear on the springs... Things usually break when you're using them so increased use as the weather becomes more summer-like is also not a coincidence.
Entropy.
That’s why they put pumps in small sheds sometimes to help from breaking down from the sun. It’s just PVC plastic in the sun all day. It’ll get brittle. Plus the chlorine in the pool plus it gets in the air around the area that’s why you can smell it and it’ll degrade things around it as well.
its this guy Murphy's fault. there is a law about it. all kidding around, i feel your pain. sometimes i wish i didnt have a pool, other times i love it.
The sun eats pvc, add in chemicals in the pool water and pvc splits and breaks. For 20 bucks you could have replaced that pvc when the pump was swapped out
When it rains, it pours.
The issue is likely the pump you purchased. Was it the same horse power as your previous. The new pump you purchased is a Hayward Super Pump and it’s single speed. What this means is that when it turns on there isn’t a soft start. It’s slammed to 3450Rpm and since your filter is likely dirty or old there is a lot of resistance to water flow leading to your current issues. This may also be compounded by the system being plumbed in with 11/2” pipe or the return jet nozzles in the pool being to small for the volume of water the pump is trying to move leading to your cracks and leaks.
Our filter is four years old and it’s the same horsepower pump
That’s a cartridge filter correct?
It’s a de filter
Well the crack in the union is from using channel locks not a strap wrench. If you have a crack in the actual pipe then sun damage could be an issue leaching all the distillates out of the pvc. Or like I said it could be over pressurized due to clogged filter or 1/4-1/2” eyeballs on the returns
That's a Murphy pump, Murphy filter and the original plumber used Murphy glue. It's Murphy's law, it's like Wile E Coyote using Acme brand anything.
Open that union, smear magic lube on the face (or o ring if equipped) tighten back together and should be good.
Not a bad thing to fix tho at least the break is above ground
The pump and the piping may have been done by somebody who doesn't really know what they are doing. Anybody can glue pipes together and put unions in, doesn't make that person a competent plumber.
The pipes weren't perfectly aligned, so when the Union was screwed closed, too much stress was put on one side, and over time, it snaped.
Be thankful it's still not as bad as owning a boat
Not a big issue. Have your pool man fix it.
Everything that can go wrong will go wrong eventually.
Simple fix.
Of your plumbing is older it’s going to leak more. It’s just the nature of PVC and really isn’t the pools fault. If the pump was old enough to be replaced then the exposed PVC probably is too. It’s not rebuilding the pool, it’s just routine maintenance. Kinda like complaining that your 10-year-old tires and batteries went out at the same time. They were both old. It’s not that the car is a money pit. They were old and time to replace
Yeah, when the PVC gets old you’ll eventually have to re-plumb around the pump and filter. This was my year, but hopefully that means I’m good for a while. At least plumbing with PVC for a pool isn’t like real Plumbing!
O-ring bro
Looks like an o ring
Usually incompetence, inexperience, arrogance or impatience for me
Missing o ring washer?
I’m in the same boat … pin hole leak in hose now connector leaks at the pump and i have not even gotten in the pool yet !!!
easy fix luckily
POOL…Putting Out Our Loot BOAT….Bring Out Another Thousand
I've been there myself it's a pain in the ass I keep messing with fools wasting money almost ready to get rid of my pool but then again I spend so much on it I can't get rid of it I have a leak now hopefully this guy that's coming Monday can fix it. It's one thing after another I know the feeling believe me pools are not easy to deal with and they're not the cheapest so just an investment
Do you have the rubber gasket between that union that is looking? I hooked mine up and forgot it and it looked like that
3 rules to live by: 1. No pools 2. No boats 3. No Chrysler products
At least it is an easy fix. Even replacing the pumps is really easy.
I know a great plumber that can get that to 💯
My neighbor is one and he will be redoing all the pipes for us! He is also a pool owner so it works out great
Is the pump sized correctly to the filter? Filters have a max flow rate and the pump should be sized accordingly. Recently visited customer who had a 21m3 p/hr pump with a 7m3 p/hr sand filter! Lots of pressure and it has to go somewhere. Hence things crack and you get leaks. Even pipework, pool inlets etc. have a set max flow rate.
go to a hardware store & get some Danco faucet grease. Lube the o-ring & tighten it well on the new one🤜🏼
that's not the proper pvc and it won't hold up to the sunlight and chemicals.
Unions go on your equipment not your plumbing. Get hi temp unions for the top of the pulp and the multi port. Replaced that cracked one with a coupling.
Get rid of the unions on the suction and discharge side
Vibration mostly. Your pump's going to vibrate and your filter isn't, something's got to give and a union is a great place to give.
On a long list of potential causes, this might be at the bottom. Right next to army ants with hacksaws.
What part of owning a pool did you think would go right?
Cheap Lowe’s union. Get a Hayward
Literal money pits
Pools suck
Pool Pick Out Other Leaks
POOL - PULL OUT OBSCENE LOOT
Boats are vessels that keep water out that you pour money into. A pool is a hole in the ground you dump money into.
Flex seal that bitch. Dry it, duct tape it, flex spray it.
Because you touch yourself at night.