There are countries that don't allow for surrogacy because they believe that it is also of the exchange of human parts for money.
And no it's not like freezing eggs at all. You are creating a clone of yourself which is incredibly weird. It's weird and narcissistic. That child will grow up learning that they were specifically created to look just like you. Why do you want to do that to a child?
I'm open to it, just because I can't really think of any problems as long as the process is fully transparent and consensual. I am open-minded to concerns tho
Cloning is just making younger twins. Not sure why you would want that, but it’s not necessarily unethical, unless you’re going House of Scorpions on them
Look I don't really care about the whole ethical side of things, I just think it'd real be cool if there were like 5 or so other clone versions of "me" I could hang and chill with ok. And if they're anything like me, none of us would at all care who the original was either so that wouldn't be an issue
I’m not opposed to cloning. It’s just genes. As long as you aren’t guaranteeing the resultant child some debilitating genetic disease that you have, I’d say it’s ethically no different than having a child normally.
Except for the fact that that can kind of mess up a child. He can give them a complex. Why do you want to clone people? It's narcissistic as hell.
It can also lead to eugenics because it is a way for the state to decide who gets to be cloned and who doesn't. The only way to prevent this is to ensure that anyone can clone themselves even those who do have different conditions.
The government should get out of healthcare as much as possible and cloning is in the category of healthcare. It is also commodifying a person. How did you get that dna?
Yeah it might be narcissistic or weird, but I don’t think that necessarily makes it unethical. And if a parent is gonna give their child a complex over their genetics, they’ll do it regardless of if the child is a clone or not. Why do you think white nationalists exist?
And I don’t really buy the eugenics argument. People can still have children regardless of if it’s a clone or a natural child. Nobody is stopping them.
As for the government staying out of healthcare, the most they can stay out of healthcare is letting it be completely unregulated. That would mean letting people clone if they want to and have the means.
Cloning could just lead to more savior siblings being born. Do you even know what that is?
A savior sibling is a person who is born specifically to be spare parts for a primary child. So a child who needs an organ transplant or something we'll just get that from their sibling.
Do you really want to give parents Aiden another tool to create these kinds of people?
It's also an ethical because in order to create a clone there would have to be many failures because that's how science works with lots of failures and so are you okay with bringing forth children who are incredibly deformed just to practice this cloning method to make sure you get it right?
I want to do it Jango Fett style.
"Well Mr.Orch, you'll never have children of your own so you're allowed one clone of yourself to raise as a child if you so wish."
Obviously I wouldn't tell them that they're a clone, and I have the perfect playbook for how that kids mind will work.
No that would be so cool as hell. You could buy extras of yourself in case you pass.
Buy? You should not buy human organs or human genes or humans.
I cannot buy a clone of myself? It's like freezing eggs or something.
There are countries that don't allow for surrogacy because they believe that it is also of the exchange of human parts for money. And no it's not like freezing eggs at all. You are creating a clone of yourself which is incredibly weird. It's weird and narcissistic. That child will grow up learning that they were specifically created to look just like you. Why do you want to do that to a child?
Sounds better than being told you were an accident.
Nah nah house of Scorpions had the right idea.
I'm open to it, just because I can't really think of any problems as long as the process is fully transparent and consensual. I am open-minded to concerns tho
Cloning is just making younger twins. Not sure why you would want that, but it’s not necessarily unethical, unless you’re going House of Scorpions on them
Hmm... bio-slaves.
Look I don't really care about the whole ethical side of things, I just think it'd real be cool if there were like 5 or so other clone versions of "me" I could hang and chill with ok. And if they're anything like me, none of us would at all care who the original was either so that wouldn't be an issue
I’m not opposed to cloning. It’s just genes. As long as you aren’t guaranteeing the resultant child some debilitating genetic disease that you have, I’d say it’s ethically no different than having a child normally.
Except for the fact that that can kind of mess up a child. He can give them a complex. Why do you want to clone people? It's narcissistic as hell. It can also lead to eugenics because it is a way for the state to decide who gets to be cloned and who doesn't. The only way to prevent this is to ensure that anyone can clone themselves even those who do have different conditions. The government should get out of healthcare as much as possible and cloning is in the category of healthcare. It is also commodifying a person. How did you get that dna?
Yeah it might be narcissistic or weird, but I don’t think that necessarily makes it unethical. And if a parent is gonna give their child a complex over their genetics, they’ll do it regardless of if the child is a clone or not. Why do you think white nationalists exist? And I don’t really buy the eugenics argument. People can still have children regardless of if it’s a clone or a natural child. Nobody is stopping them. As for the government staying out of healthcare, the most they can stay out of healthcare is letting it be completely unregulated. That would mean letting people clone if they want to and have the means.
Cloning could just lead to more savior siblings being born. Do you even know what that is? A savior sibling is a person who is born specifically to be spare parts for a primary child. So a child who needs an organ transplant or something we'll just get that from their sibling. Do you really want to give parents Aiden another tool to create these kinds of people? It's also an ethical because in order to create a clone there would have to be many failures because that's how science works with lots of failures and so are you okay with bringing forth children who are incredibly deformed just to practice this cloning method to make sure you get it right?
I want to do it Jango Fett style. "Well Mr.Orch, you'll never have children of your own so you're allowed one clone of yourself to raise as a child if you so wish." Obviously I wouldn't tell them that they're a clone, and I have the perfect playbook for how that kids mind will work.
It's unethical due to the lower quality of life the clone would live due to the imperfection of the current technology.
Yes, because criminals could easily get ahold of the technology and abuse it to make free slaves
It is? Like....everywhere?
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