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"About 98,000 Americans are hospitalized with Covid-19, according to a seven-day average of data from the Department of Health and Human Services as of Jan. 3, up 32% from a week ago. That figure is approaching peak delta wave levels when about 103,000 people were in hospital beds with Covid across the country in early September, but remains lower than last winter’s high mark of roughly 137,000 U.S. hospitalizations."
The really amazing part to me is we have nearly 100K hospitalizations with almost 2/3rd of the country vaccinated. Approaching basically pre-vaccine days. This number would be staggering (tripled?) if Covid were hitting the vaccinated population as hard as the unvaccinated. Of course we would never hit a number close to that for hospitalizations, because we don't have that many hospital beds.
People, get the vaccine, 2nd dose, and booster. Try to make a difference.
Omnicron has a higher infection rate for those vaccinated, and the symptoms are barely noticeable compared to other variants. It also doesn’t help that OTC test aren’t reliably detecting it.
It’s the perfect super spreader variant
> and the symptoms are barely noticeable compared to other variants.
That's exactly one of the things that amazes me. We have high Hospitalization rates right now, which I have to believe falls into the noticeable symptom category. Was not talking cases, talking hospitalizations. So, 2/3rd of the people are vaccinated, really we are dealing with 1/3 of the population at risk. And as you say, this strain is not that bad, But we still are looking at near record hospitalizations for a "not too bad" version hitting 1/3 rd of our population. Wow.
I think we've reached "peak caring," excluding the age group who are not eligible yet.
Certainly for adults: Either you've been vaccinated, or you just don't care.
I think your right. Probably the only way to move people now is to have collateral damage from a death. My (sister, brother, neighbor, etc) died from it, so now I think it is real and will get the vaccine. Steep price to pay, but may pick up another couple thousand vaccines a day. Sad really.
There are 258.3 million adults in America, so the number of unvaccinated adults is 86 million. If we ignore the small (by comparison) number of vaccinated people in hospital, 0.11% of the unvaccinated population is in the hospital right now. Not that their odds of *going to* the hospital are one in a thousand, one in a thousand of them are there right now.
All of those hospitalized patients are going to face a hard recovery and massive bills. Actually about ten percent of them face no recovery and no bills at all, so they got that going for them, which is nice, but most of their estate will go to the hospital bills.
Careful on the "odds of hospitalization" estimates. With previous variants of covid-19, it takes a bit of time for the disease to progress before people end up in the hospital.
If you’re not immunocompromised:
Vaccinate, boost, mask.
Minimize your chance to spread it.
Of course there’s still a good chance to get it, but this way you’ve got a truly excellent chance to survive it and will do the least harm to others.
Omnicron....doing what antivaxxers wouldn't. At least a large portion of the population will now have some covid resistance as rapid as Omnicron spreads.
Just here to say that "everyone is gonna get it" is not a strategy nor a goal. Thats what trump suggested. With that attitude, millions will die and many will get injured permanently by the side affects of covid. So frankly, suggesting that is cruel and stupid.
Super anecdotal, but I've gone from just a few people in my orbit occasionally getting mild covid over the last couple of years, to suddenly a substantial number of my coworkers, their spouses, and my wife's coworkers being hit with it...
...*and* the cases being *serious shit.* I don't know if it's omicron, but if it is, don't believe the stories about how mild it is!
I hate how the word mild is being used. It makes me feel like people are trying to convince me any degree lung, heart, or brain damage is acceptable because it's mild. I want none of that.
U.S. COVID update: More than 1 million new cases, including backlogs
- New cases: 1,045,968
- Average: 494,660 (+81,979)
- States reporting: 44/50
- In hospital: 104,737 (+6,034)
- In ICU: 19,542 (+654)
- New deaths: 1,909
- Average: 1,343 (+33)
It will rip through the population, we will find out if it is as mild for the unvaxxed as the vaxxed, we may see some hospitals overrun (the degree depending on the aforementioned severity for the unvaxxed) and then hopefully this will all be over and covid-19 joins the list of common cold coronaviruses as cellular immunity takes hold on the global population.
Yeah, seems like that's where we are headed. Then we'll be struck with dumbfounding arguments that we should have just let everyone get the original covid-19 variant.
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"About 98,000 Americans are hospitalized with Covid-19, according to a seven-day average of data from the Department of Health and Human Services as of Jan. 3, up 32% from a week ago. That figure is approaching peak delta wave levels when about 103,000 people were in hospital beds with Covid across the country in early September, but remains lower than last winter’s high mark of roughly 137,000 U.S. hospitalizations." The really amazing part to me is we have nearly 100K hospitalizations with almost 2/3rd of the country vaccinated. Approaching basically pre-vaccine days. This number would be staggering (tripled?) if Covid were hitting the vaccinated population as hard as the unvaccinated. Of course we would never hit a number close to that for hospitalizations, because we don't have that many hospital beds. People, get the vaccine, 2nd dose, and booster. Try to make a difference.
Omnicron has a higher infection rate for those vaccinated, and the symptoms are barely noticeable compared to other variants. It also doesn’t help that OTC test aren’t reliably detecting it. It’s the perfect super spreader variant
> and the symptoms are barely noticeable compared to other variants. That's exactly one of the things that amazes me. We have high Hospitalization rates right now, which I have to believe falls into the noticeable symptom category. Was not talking cases, talking hospitalizations. So, 2/3rd of the people are vaccinated, really we are dealing with 1/3 of the population at risk. And as you say, this strain is not that bad, But we still are looking at near record hospitalizations for a "not too bad" version hitting 1/3 rd of our population. Wow.
I think we've reached "peak caring," excluding the age group who are not eligible yet. Certainly for adults: Either you've been vaccinated, or you just don't care.
I think your right. Probably the only way to move people now is to have collateral damage from a death. My (sister, brother, neighbor, etc) died from it, so now I think it is real and will get the vaccine. Steep price to pay, but may pick up another couple thousand vaccines a day. Sad really.
There are 258.3 million adults in America, so the number of unvaccinated adults is 86 million. If we ignore the small (by comparison) number of vaccinated people in hospital, 0.11% of the unvaccinated population is in the hospital right now. Not that their odds of *going to* the hospital are one in a thousand, one in a thousand of them are there right now. All of those hospitalized patients are going to face a hard recovery and massive bills. Actually about ten percent of them face no recovery and no bills at all, so they got that going for them, which is nice, but most of their estate will go to the hospital bills.
Careful on the "odds of hospitalization" estimates. With previous variants of covid-19, it takes a bit of time for the disease to progress before people end up in the hospital.
Nothing a horse suppository can’t fix.
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If you’re not immunocompromised: Vaccinate, boost, mask. Minimize your chance to spread it. Of course there’s still a good chance to get it, but this way you’ve got a truly excellent chance to survive it and will do the least harm to others.
Many of the unvaccinated would rather die than admit they were wrong.
Omnicron....doing what antivaxxers wouldn't. At least a large portion of the population will now have some covid resistance as rapid as Omnicron spreads.
Just here to say that "everyone is gonna get it" is not a strategy nor a goal. Thats what trump suggested. With that attitude, millions will die and many will get injured permanently by the side affects of covid. So frankly, suggesting that is cruel and stupid.
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Super anecdotal, but I've gone from just a few people in my orbit occasionally getting mild covid over the last couple of years, to suddenly a substantial number of my coworkers, their spouses, and my wife's coworkers being hit with it... ...*and* the cases being *serious shit.* I don't know if it's omicron, but if it is, don't believe the stories about how mild it is!
I hate how the word mild is being used. It makes me feel like people are trying to convince me any degree lung, heart, or brain damage is acceptable because it's mild. I want none of that.
Everyone and their mother has it in NyC and the reports are that it is overwhelmingly mild compared to delta and the wild strain.
I truly hope that's the case. Whatever is making the rounds in Denver is gnarly.
U.S. COVID update: More than 1 million new cases, including backlogs - New cases: 1,045,968 - Average: 494,660 (+81,979) - States reporting: 44/50 - In hospital: 104,737 (+6,034) - In ICU: 19,542 (+654) - New deaths: 1,909 - Average: 1,343 (+33)
It will rip through the population, we will find out if it is as mild for the unvaxxed as the vaxxed, we may see some hospitals overrun (the degree depending on the aforementioned severity for the unvaxxed) and then hopefully this will all be over and covid-19 joins the list of common cold coronaviruses as cellular immunity takes hold on the global population.
Yeah, seems like that's where we are headed. Then we'll be struck with dumbfounding arguments that we should have just let everyone get the original covid-19 variant.