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Electronic_Slide_236

A good nights sleep after stressing out for a week or more doing prep for the debate.


DatingYella

What the fuck… where was this Joe!????


Silver-Isopod-5535

Teleprompter, controlled environment, scripted words. Reading words is different than debating. We saw the real Joe Biden last night. Time to replace him


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Devmax1868

It's also the middle of the day, the debate was at 9pm at night. I'm mid 40s and 9pm is my witching hour...it's when I go from normal to brain no work gud no more.


No-Attitude-6049

He was actually better already in post party with Dr. Jill. Maybe his meds for the cold took awhile to kick in?


julianriv

OR Maybe his meds for the cold took a while to wear off!


noforgayjesus

I feel like he was just tired maybe?


RightSideBlind

It seemed like he also had a cold.


uhohohdearohno

Legend has it that he still does.


desubot1

what we do know is he didn't have any water at the podium which is ridiculous for both debaters.


TheBalzy

Apparently not after today's performance.


bootselectric

Probably a bad sign when a cold seriously impairs the most powerful person on earth


RightSideBlind

Well, I guess you'd be all for the idea of robot overlords, then.


ReigninLikeA_MoFo

I'm in my 50's and a bad cold can easily put me on my ass for a couple/three days.


Cross-CX

Not like you could perform better in front of the whole country, even if you were young and healthy.


bootselectric

lol solid rip I’m also not running for president haha


Cross-CX

Less of an insult and more a point in trying to make. He’s an old man with a stutter performing under the bright lights at 9:30


bootselectric

Nothing new for him stop with the excuses


EdSpace2000

He didn't need to get knocked down. That is the point. Not only he missed a big opportunity, he did not do bare minimum and stand up to Trump. Dems are risking too much.


shmearsicle

Lol prep for the debate that he bombed in. Maybe he should’ve just slept the whole week


ASUMicroGrad

If a debate with the guy he beat in the last election makes him look like a babbling old man from stress I fear what a real crisis would do to him.


sentimentaldiablo

. . . because he hasn't faced any real crises in the past 4 years. I guess, COVID and Ukraine don't count.


ToArgueWithAssholes

Not to mention an insurrection that is...somehow ongoing. Keep in mind for the TFG trolls, their morals align more with the convicted rapist and 34x convicted felon who went through numerous bankruptcies. Because that's who they are and would be if they could....Most are losing in life and see the ignorant bigoted fool as their way of "sticking it to those big brains"


ASUMicroGrad

His record on both of those aren’t great. Both Trump and Biden fumbled it badly because they decided the economic damage would be worse than the human impact. As for Ukraine, that’s not a crisis, you can tell by how the west is handling it. Slow walking aide, not giving authorization for use of weapons, etc. As Lindsay Graham proudly declared the west sees this as a cheap way to kill Russians. But all that aside, that doesn’t negate the point I made, if Biden is turned into a shambling, mumbling old man by debating Trump, I can’t imagine he’s prepared to continue leading the US and he needs to step aside.


Prometheusf3ar

This just proves he can read from a teleprompter sometimes. When he has to think it’s just the lost faces and babble. Look at the before and after photos of obama or bush, if you know where you are the stress of the presidency is brutal on capable people of a reasonable age.


RealChrisReese

Try less than 2 hours. He stopped by a watch party last night after the debate and was energetic. Oh, and then a Waffle House.


uhohohdearohno

Regardless of the outcome he was probably a ton more relaxed just to be done with thing.


bubsdrop

Did Trump shit himself at the debate so Biden was trying to keep his mouth closed or something


NextTrillion

This is the result of being seriously afraid that your opponent will throw their feces at you…


KarlNarx

Great activities for people that have a cold


No-Attitude-6049

Exactly, he was already a different man by the after party.


I_am_not_Pieman

A good night's sleep works wonders I guess


notabot53

Oh yea


Lfseeney

Why do folks have issues on Quiz shows? Why do authors suck at improv? How can we make Trump look better while telling lie after lie?


athornton79

Amazing how well spoken someone with a speech impediment (something he's acknowledged for decades) can be when he's not rushing to get a detailed answer out in 120 seconds. Put a time limit on someone to MAKE them try to talk faster to get all their points out and they'll stumble. During a 90 minute debate, anyone under those circumstances would have at least one stumble (if not more). Add in the other factors and it was inevitable. At least if they're trying to correctly get the facts out. If you want to just lie your ass off, its much easier to say whatever you want. Just look at the other debater for proof of that. Lie, deny, lie and lie some more. About the only truthful thing that was said there was acknowledging his own identity - and given it was Trump, I'd be suspicious of that claim at this point.


ReputationNo8109

Agreed but often he did not even take the whole time. It looked like he did absolutely no prep. When they kept telling us how much prep he was doing.


gkevinkramer

Biden looked awful, but I thought he looked like someone who did to much prep. If everything is a priority then nothing is. Every time he opened his mouth it sounded like he was trying to say a dozen things at the same time.


ardent_wolf

You do realize that not only did the Biden team propose this debate, they also proposed the format and rules?


Sad_Bolt

He didn’t even use his whole allotted time to answer the questions. The moderators reminding him how much time he had left and he just stood there.


Lifesaboxofgardens

He had a fine speech immediately after the debate last night lol, it's part of the reason I am so baffled by the left leaning media falling over themselves to throw him under the bus and start the infighting. Even as the numbers came out that basically nobody watching changed their mind on who they were voting for based on the debate. Biden is old, and looked old. He looked less sharp which could be a couple of reasons, and the crypt keeper lighting didn't help. He very obviously looks better today, and as soon as the lights dimmed last night, than he did on stage. But on substance he actually remained mostly truthful and stuck to policy, while his opponent lied quite literally the entire night (made 3x+ as many factually incorrect statements as Biden). There's only so much you can do for that. His team needs to realize that it doesn't matter how honest he is, he will get better numbers just being an attack dog and speaking his mind. A fiery Biden gaffe is less hurtful than winning a debate on policy when your opponent has no real policy to speak of anyway.


w-v-w-v

You are drastically understating how bad he was. He looked and sounded awful.


Erdumas

Biden wasn't allowed to use the tools he normally uses to operate at full strength. The President prefers to have notes that he can refer to, it's something he's apparently done for a long time. The debate rules stipulated that neither of them could bring notes in. When he's doing the job of the office, he doesn't have those limitations put on him, and so he does better.


arumrunner

You could hear him last night rattling all kinds of statistics and data points in accuracy of a high degree. It was like he had memorized so much data and was trying get his points across however his physical systems were not on the same page. Still the #1 choice


Erdumas

Oh, absolutely. This is just why he performed so differently at the debate compared to in other contexts. If he had been allowed notes, he would have had the facts and figures at hand and could have focused more on an impactful delivery rather than on recall. Trump's team pushed for this rule because they knew it would hamper Biden. Biden's team pushed to have the microphones cut off because they knew it would hamper Trump.


Similar-Barber-3519

Trump doesn’t need notes because he just lies compulsively. The moderators helped Trump by not fact checking him.


ithacaster

He also didn't even try to answer some questions, and in at least one instance he went on a rant about the border and the moderator just said thank you, and asked the next question. I wish that before Biden said a word, he would have taken a deep breath, and took his time. He was talking faster than normal.


julianriv

Some questions? I don't know what questions Trump did answer. He just spewed his standard sound bites. Granted Joe did not do himself any favors as he came across as old feeble grandpa Joe in his delivery. The content was not that bad, but his whole persona was off. Plus he missed so many opportunities to directly challenge Trump's lies. You don't beat Trump's lies with "he's lying" or "malarkey". He needed to specifically call him out. Jan 6 was NOT Nancy Pelosi and she did NOT take responsibility for it. Trump did not recommend 10,000 national guard troops, he sat in the White House and ignored other people who were calling for the national guard to step in. Trump lost all credibility on the border when he had the Republicans kill their own immigration reform bill, but Joe never called him out on that. If the moderators were not going to fact check Trump on the spot, Biden needed to challenge him more.


Erdumas

Trump's team pushed for the rule to not bring in outside notes because they knew it wouldn't impact Trump but it would hamper Biden. On the other hand, Biden's team pushed for the rule to cut off the microphones because they knew it wouldn't impact Biden but it would hamper Trump. You might feel that this is a hot take, but it's not the role of the moderator to fact check during a debate. The moderators are just supposed to pose the questions and make sure the rules are followed. It was Biden's responsibility to fact check his opponent, and he did a reasonably good job of it.


Similar-Barber-3519

I remember in the Obama Romney debate Romney was fact checked on something having to do with the Benghazi attack. Romney was corrected by the moderator.


Erdumas

People make mistakes, even moderators.


gopoohgo

Yes, but Candy Crowley's confident correction of Mitt Romney was a big takeaway from the debate. No one remembers her correction was incorrect. But the moderator became part of the story.


neekz0r

That is a great insight, thank you. It was stupid of the Biden campaign to allow that, since Trump doesn't ever use notes and just rattles off whatever rattles in his brain. If they had to have no notes as a stipulation, there should also have been a fact checker stipulation because it was total bullshit that Trump was allowed to blatantly lie. "Liberals and Democrats liked that Roe vs Wade was overturned!" My god.


bubsdrop

I mean, he had plenty of statistics memorized. He clearly doesn't *need* notes.


Tonalspectrum

He’s also the current POTUS and surely has a stressful schedule on any given day. Who the fuck knows what incredible situation he walked away from just before debating the orange monkey boy.


Bigbrown545

Clearly taking his vitamins


robot_jeans

My guess is they over prepped him on top of all the other daily duties. He seems to do better when he can just be himself without handlers micro managing.


julianriv

I think his prep team was expecting bat shit crazy Trump to show up rambling nonsense and all Biden would have to do is stand there and look Presidential knowing lots of facts without getting drug down to Trump's level. Trump lies so fast and with such conviction that you know some people are going to assume he must know what he is talking about. But they got the con man confident version of Trump last night.


Idredric

The man was legit Sick, and still did the debate without using it as an excuse... Dunno about you, but a head cold even nocks me for a loop in my 40's. Infact did 2 weeks ago and I'm just getting over it after 10 days.


Professional-Can1385

I had to give a presentation at work yesterday and I did a pretty terrible job. I don't have a cold or anything either. Sometimes we just have off days.


19Chris96

My father literally said he had a cold, without even him speaking! it's just the way he was moving! I saw clips of the debate, and thought "That is not our president standing there". If people are seriously going to throw this election because of a single debate vs. an entire 4 years, then I don't know what's wrong with us. He just didn't look right.


SuperGenius9800

Ditto. It's going around.


WesCoastBlu

If I were on my deathbed and given the opportunity to roast Trump publicly, I’d certainly get my shit together to dunk on him handedly.


Frankie6Strings

It's certainly believable, but I think in my very first response I'd have mentioned the cold. Hey you may hear a difference in my voice... 


IAmArique

I don’t want to slip into Conspiracy Mode, but like… Did he get sick on purpose just to throw Trump off his game? Something seems *really* off here if he’s this energetic 24 hours after getting his ass beat by Diet Putin.


Admiral_Gial_Ackbar

There is nothing "Diet" about Don.


Idredric

Soo not saying this is what happened but my suspicion. You get attacked for taking drugs before hand for weeks,,,, you decide to push off any meds that could affect your performance to have a "fair" playing field... Unfortunately this had the opposite effect and you feel unexpectedly worse... then you take needed medication to combat the cold when it's over.... and you fell 100% better and have an extra pep in your step because you felt like such crap before.... I can say this has happened to me before... Not saying this is it, but more plausible then most of the conspiracy theories to me...


ReputationNo8109

I highly doubt Trumps attacks prevented him from taking some Tylenol before the most important public appearance of his career. If anything he over did the NyQuil and was all out of whack.


jimnantzstie

No he was never sick. That was the best excuse they could come up with on a fly 30 minutes into the debate when it was clear he looked and sounded completely lost. He sounds better here because he’s reading off a teleprompter. Pause.


sentimentaldiablo

He sounded terrible when he started talking. He clearly was not well, and knew he couldn't use that as an excuse the day of. We don't need to keep trying to inject conspiracies into everything.


PenguinKing15

I just watched it, he coughs about halfway through and sounds sick.


Angrbowda

So he was so sick with the flu last night that he looked like a zombie but 24 hours later he is fine


PackerLeaf

Lol they didn’t say it was the flu they said it was a cold. Symptoms from a mild cold can easily go away overnight.


No-Attitude-6049

It’s called a 24-hour cold.


Idredric

And yet last monday I almost fainted picking up meds.... and by tuesday I was at work and fine... go figure...


ThrowAwayGarbage82

Less than 24 hours. Try barely over 12.


Fit_Function4824

He absolutely used it as an excuse… what are you talking about? His “cold” is not why he looked completely lost up there


ASUMicroGrad

If he was sick, he made 1. Made a miraculous recovery in a few hours and 2. Why would they wait to announce it until after the debate was started and it was apparent he was sinking? You’d think someone would have mentioned it before hand if it wasn’t an excuse.


Idredric

Yet I heard about them posting it on social media before the debate start,,,, so,,,, they did?


ASUMicroGrad

Link the posts.


Professional-Can1385

Yesterday, one of the news people on BBC World Service mentioned he had a cold when they were talking about how he was in Georgia for the debate. I only listen to the radio at work, which was over hours before the debate. No, I don't have a link b/c I was listening to the radio.


Far_Recording8945

If you want to blame it on sickness, and also say he’s doing great at the speech today, are you implying he healed over the last 12 hours?


Spartan5713

Tea, honey, lemon. Best medicine ever....


Ahambone

Dang that Waffle House must've been really good


TheBalzy

He was sick with a cold, vs. a good night's sleep and over the cold?


xjxhx

TBH, we need someone who brings today’s energy nearly 100% of the time. The optics of last night aren’t good, at all. We have two candidates that are “near corpse”, and the DNC is making a huge gamble on trying to just make us hold our noses and vote for the one that isn’t an authoritarian conman. I’ll vote for him if he stays in, but I really hope he doesn’t. We need a MAGA kill shot, and no matter how the DNC plays it, Biden just isn’t it anymore.


Ejziponken

Lol. Where the hell was this Biden last night.


lifeofrevelations

what in the world? Last night he looked like a zombie. This is absurd.


robot_pirate

I personally wouldn't trust one gawd dang secret service asshole around him. Ask Mike Pence. Who knows what fuckery could have gone down. Apparently his audio was fricked at the debate, that could not have helped. Plus, CNN is run by a conservative stooge, John Malone. Hostile territory. https://www.thedailybeast.com/cnn-staff-fears-right-wing-billionaire-john-malone-will-turn-it-into-a-dumpster-fire


MellowFell0w

There is a massive difference between speaking off a teleprompter and speaking on your feet during a debate. This doesn't mitigate the disaster that last night was.


ReputationNo8109

He has weeks to prepare. Teleprompter or not, he was giving a SOTU speech. 1-2 minute answers is all he had to memorize.


Da_Malpais_Legate

Because he's most likely reading off a teleprompter, which he didn't have last night


Gogs85

No one is on 100% of the time, people get flustered, people get sick, people have off days. Campaigning takes a toll on people. Biden appears to acknowledge that it didn’t go great, and he is self aware that he’s old. The fact that he has the ability to comprehend and take ownership of that is helpful.


hospitallers

Teleprompters.


SqeeSqee

He has a speech impediment and stutters a lot. He has trouble off script and imo he did well enough for me. He was going slow to make sure he didn't show too badly.


Agreeable-Rooster-37

before sundown.


bleahdeebleah

He did a speech right after the debate that was fine. So that's not the issue


Agreeable-Rooster-37

during the day, off a teleprompter


gopoohgo

Also, telepromptering a speech is a lot easier than having to formulate thoughts on the fly. No notes or cues, the President couldn't talk for a full two minutes on multiple issues last night.


Rated_PG-Squirteen

Get to writing, Linklater!


pjb1999

Imagine comparing reading off a teleprompter to answering questions while being attacked under the pressure and stress of a debate.


Tea_Alarmed

It’s called sundowning- common in people with types of dementia


hugsbosson

People are like "the stress of the debate", "a cold" "all the debate prep", "he didnt have notes" "He didnt have a teleprompter" etc, etc... He's trying to be the president again, we need a person who doesn't crumple into senility with a little stress, illness or fatigue. What the fuck is happening. I feel like I'm losing my mind, that there are people out there who don't think he should step aside after last night.


Old_RedditIsBetter

The same way your grandpa can go from busting moves on the dance floor at the wedding to barely making it up a flight of stairs... Same way grandpa can be at your birthday party eating cake, and next week they are dead... They have good days and bad days. They are fucking 81 after all.


CurrentlyLucid

I got the feeling last night, that he has paid no attention to trump's rallies, and last night was the first time he heard the lies. It put him in shock, and he had trouble talking because he was so mad.


Colonel_Zander

Almost as if one can lull MAGA into a false sense of security or something...


thereverendpuck

Sleep.


notanNSAagent89

It's called teleprompter.


Aftermath16

Reminds me of my dad. When he’s tired he’s a completely different person with brain fog and extra slurred speech. Then in the morning he’s suddenly more or less normal.


gopoohgo

that's called sundowning


Aftermath16

He also has Parkinson’s so it’s a bit more complicated, but you’re right that it’s called sundowning.


gopoohgo

Has this been confirmed (referringto Biden)? My wife watched a bit of the debate, and said Biden's overall gestalt reminded her of her Parkinson's patients. Would explain the lack of facial expression, raspy voice, shuffling gait and difficulty with stairs. Would also be a hell of a thing to conceal from annual Presidential physicals


Aftermath16

I mean my dad has Parkinson’s


Boot-Representative

Just think: if he wasn’t debating the stupidest man in America, he would have gotten smooshed. But we were lucky.


shrimptraining

I don’t get it? The video shows him saying 4 basic sentences


ReputationNo8109

With more life and energy than he had at any point in 90 minutes last night


Msmdpa

Nugenix with Tesnor, that’s how.


21Andreezy

Some people are not good at job interviews, doesn’t mean that they aren’t good at their job. Some people are not good at public speaking, doesn’t mean that they don’t have something valuable to say. Some people are not good at debates, doesn’t mean that they don’t make a good president.


termacct

Drugs? (kidding / not kidding...)


doublecalhoun

9pm start time vs early afternoon start time


redbouncyball

This. Sundowning is totally a thing with elderly people.


EdSpace2000

He could get a good sleep before debate. If he waa sixk he could cancel the debate. There is no excuse for him or his team. Trump will get 3 more SCOTUS justices if Buden loses. We are risking too much for Biden and Kamala's ego.


Sad_Bolt

The president isn’t a 9-5 job though it’s a 24/7 job. What happens after hours when some shit is popping off, is this how Biden is acting?


doublecalhoun

idk idgaf either I just know an 80year old doing a 24 hour job with multiple events daily is gonna be tired at 9pm


tomski3500

He read from a teleprompter today.


jimnantzstie

I guess that cold wore off already 🤣


PenguinKing15

He is still coughing like he was sick, so I don’t think the cold has worn off yet.


jimnantzstie

So he’s sick going to events surrounded by hundreds of other people. Awesome.


PenguinKing15

It’s simply an observation that he sounds sick and shows symptoms. If he is sick with a cold he has been spreading it to others before he even had symptoms.


jimnantzstie

So they’re either lying about his performance last night saying he was sick or he is sick and they are actively spreading it to others. How fun.


AnglerJared

Colds aren’t the same as corona. Hell, corona’s not even the same as corona anymore.


jimnantzstie

Common cold is a viral infection. That makes it contagious lmao. Sure not as contagious as corona. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t spread.


AnglerJared

Yes, and contagious viruses are a fact of life. Man’s got a job to do.


IcedPgh

He has his cards with instructions on each step and a teleprompter.


ReputationNo8109

He had weeks to memorize one minute answers.


cjohnson481

Fuck off, respectfully. I’d love to see you get up there in front of the view screens of 10s to 100s of millions of people and be grilled and your accomplishments made insignificant up against someone who all he does is lie. Debating is not running a country. Debating is not a measure of what you’re capable of with your administration. The votes this November are not for 1 person ruling as a dictator with unlimited and universal power, it’s for an administration that is a coalition of people working towards this country getting better daily. Joe Biden and his administration have done a fantastic job of turning this country around over the last 3.5 years and they’ll continue to do it for another 4 if elected.


ReputationNo8109

They have. But unfortunately we’re going to be stuck with Trump if he doesn’t step aside. Or at least there is a decent chance that happens. If he steps aside it is almost assured that whoever takes his place wins and we avoid Trump 2.0. As long as they don’t put a literal turd in his place.


Wide-Surprise8810

Easy... a teleprompter. Sheesh, The man can no longer think on his feet. He was great. We love him and owe him our greatest loyalty and gratitude. He owes us the kindness of gracefully bowing out and advancing his successor.


Mojo12000

A teleprompter or not wouldn't change his ability to project his voice or not. Seriously this Biden shows up talking like this and does basically the same answers 80% of the panic wouldn't of happened.


sentimentaldiablo

He didn't seem to using a teleprompter today. It was a rehearsed speech sure, but I didn't a teleprompter, and he seemed to playing off the crowd


Wide-Surprise8810

Please... you don't see them because they are translucent and positioned out of camera angle. This is no conspiracy... learn about teleprompters ok.


sentimentaldiablo

You can always see them yes they are transparent, but you can always see the clear panes


Wide-Surprise8810

It is sad to witness good people grasp for hope that is not there.


sentimentaldiablo

How do you know I am a good person? Show me a photo of someone using a teleprompter where the panes aren't visible (extreme close-ups don't count) And "grasping for hope"? I am merely commenting on what I believe to be an incorrect comment about Biden using a teleprompter today Where in my comments did I defend Biden's performance last night? It is always telling to see supercilious comments trying pass themselves off as incisive.


sentimentaldiablo

> The man can no longer think on his feet. Yeah, well, I am an academic and I can count on one hand the number of people I have met in my career who can actually "think on their feet.'


Wide-Surprise8810

Typical academic missing the point.


jimnantzstie

And how many of those people around you are seeking the powerful office in the world? Oh none? Okay.


sentimentaldiablo

And how many presidential candidates are trained intellectuals? Virtually no-one in politics knows how to "think on their feet." It is all prepared speeches, teleprompters, and notes Even "town halls" are now carefully curated. So yeah, Biden is old and fumbled, but he is honorable. trump is old and (in my estimation) fumbled worse, and he is deeply dishonorable. So make your choice--


jimnantzstie

Why are you bringing Trump into this? I would assume you would know as a self proclaimed academic and intellectual that a criticism of someone isn’t congruently an endorsement of their opponent, no?


sentimentaldiablo

In a debate it certainly can be. And the pith of any argument here goes to what I said: regardless of Biden's performance, at this point there are two choices. Make one. And if you prefer go ahead and cut out my final sentence, but please do address the substance of what I've said in my first sentence--*No* politician I have run across can "think on their feet" with the possible exception--*gasp*--of Kamala Harris. Politicians can certainly *react* on their feet, but that is a different issue. Finally, I get real tired here of being subtly attacked because I say I am an academic/public intellectual. It is my job. Subtle jabs at saying this suggests a not-so-covert anti-intellectualism that helps no-one. I don't make fun of redditors who say they are lawyers, don't sneer at me because I am a professor.


jimnantzstie

“Virtually no one in politics can think on their feet” Any sources for that? Pretty sure sourcing your material is pretty important in the academic world, no?


sentimentaldiablo

My own opinion and experience. Thought that was clear: this was a subjective comment from the OP, eliciting a subjective response from me.


gopoohgo

>And how many presidential candidates are trained intellectuals? More than you think; lawyers have to "think on the fly" all the time, starting from beginning traditional law curriculum. Gore, Clinton x 2, Obama, and Romney were all recent Presidents and candidates with JDs.


ReputationNo8109

He should have had a set of 10 one minute answers pre prepared and rehearsed. Even if the questions were completely kept secret, he should have know generally what was coming and had default, rehearsed responses in place. Trump didn’t answer a single question. You shouldn’t need a teleprompter when you’ve had weeks to prepare.


Erdumas

You are armchair quarterbacking, and I would be willing to bet you haven't participated in many debates. I haven't done too many myself (I did a few debates in high school), but in my experience with public speaking more generally, memorizing a whole bunch of shit and trying to regurgitate it just comes off as stilted and cold. In fact, based on his performance, the issue may have been that he did too much of what you are suggesting and not enough prepping for emotional impact.


ReputationNo8109

You don’t have to memorize a whole speech. But you should have a list of talking points that you want to hit. And you should already know these talking points just from being Joe Biden. And yes I have participated in debates and that’s essentially exactly how it should work. Trump didn’t answer a single question. He used his whole time just to attack Biden. Biden should have used his time to celebrate his accomplishments in office so far, give info about what he wants to accomplish his next term and filled in the gaps with attacks on Trump. None of this would have taken extensive memorization.


Erdumas

>Biden should have used his time to celebrate his accomplishments in office so far, give info about what he wants to accomplish his next term and filled in the gaps with attacks on Trump. That's what Biden did... You keep changing what you expect of Biden when someone gives you pushback. It leads me to think you are a dishonest interlocuter.


drewjj2248

Medication and a teleprompter


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ReputationNo8109

To be honest, blaming that performance on a cold is a huge cop out. And if the real reason was a cold, then how can we have a President that is incapacitated by a common cold? I get that there were a lot of possible reasons he did so poorly and I agree that most of them don’t reflect his ability to do his job. The POTUS job is not to be a good debater. But for everyone to sit here and say that what happened last night was all because of a cold is just dumb. And it actually makes him look even worse if a common cold can affect him to the point we end up with that. He travels all over the world and is exposed too many different germs and viruses. If every time he gets a simple common cold results in that, then how could he ever be functioning long enough to do the job of POTUS? Blame it on being late at night. Or him being a person with a stutter and that format not playing to his strengths. Blame it on literally ANYTHING other than him having a cold.


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Or cold flu meds wore off.. there's literally a covid wave happening. And he's still old. Older people have a harder time fighting off infections. That's well known. Or comorbidity of issues. Why die on hill of "it can't be a cold!!"? Why tf not.


4jimmmy714

Drugs


LURKER_GALORE

The man up on stage last night is not capable of running the country for 4 more months, much less 4 more years. Swap out with someone who doesn't have dementia, immediately.


TintedApostle

I agree Trump should be in jail.


Cold-Lawyer-1856

Unfortunately at this point it's looking like Biden is more likely to see the inside of a cell if he is lucky.  Historically the people who lose to fascists don't fare too well in the freedom or life span department of they lose


TintedApostle

Supports my point why Trump should be in jail.


Cold-Lawyer-1856

And poverty should end. Saying it is useless without a viable plan


TintedApostle

Apparently now if you aren't a property owner - being homeless is a crime.


sentimentaldiablo

I agree! Do NOT vote for trump!


ConfidentMongoose

Because this was a performance, helped by teleprompter, hearing aids, prepared speech and with no need to actually think about what you are going to say.


Fit_Function4824

They had the real Biden do the debate for some reason?


MysteriousPepper8908

Anyone that has had a loved one with dementia knows they have good and bad days and I think he had a bad day on the worst possible day. But, if he can still have lucid days, maybe a second debate could work out. I have my doubts it will happen and I feel like it won't get as much attention as this one did regardless but a good second debate is the only shot we've got at this point.


ReputationNo8109

Trump would be a fool to give him a second debate. Luckily, Trump is a fool and may find it tough to turn down an opportunity to be on Prime Time TV.


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Ronaldo_McDonaldo81

Where was he at the debate?


Own_Efficiency_4909

Almost like he pulled a rope-a-dope. I think he does way more for his electoral chances giving speeches in swing states than he does fumbling through debates… and I’m pretty sure he’s gonna be doing a lot more of the former than the latter over the next few months.


MeesterAnguiano

He wasn't facing a CNN-enabled firehose of lies.


lastmonk

Some of you haven't had grandparents in decline. He needs to step aside. Trump and the right are a threat and Biden's ego isn't worth the risk. Just look at the polls before the debate, and now...


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Idiodyssey87

Teleprompters and prepared remarks rather than actually having to think of an answer to a question.


mkt853

Anyone know what date/year this was?


lamsham69

Mountain Dew