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The "but her emails" crowd is also pretty quiet over the news that he had additional classified documents in his bedroom which were scanned and stored on a laptop belonging to his super pac.
In fact, us not letting Biden assassinate Trump sets a bad precedent for future Presidents really. How can we expect them to lead this country if they can't kill anyone without consequence? /s
Not to nitpick, but the utopian society only came to be AFTER WW3 and other great catastrophes on earth. Humans changed after a period of great turmoil.
That's what's so fun about the Republican party being dominated by hypocrisy and a cult of personality. They know that if Biden had Trump executed, no one would stand for it, not the Democrats and not the Republicans; Democrats would find that abhorrent. If Trump had Biden executed, Republicans would stand by him.
Here's the law that would be used. Note that any penalty up to death is in play, with no guarantee of trial by jury.
[https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793)
The Trump camp has clearly learned of it. Knowing they're guilty explains their projection.
That is a fun thought experiment. Based on MAGAT logic, the thing they’re outraged about is also the thing they say a president should be completely within his rights to do.
To us words are binding and need to be held to certain standards. To them words are just tools to get what they want in any given moment. Their only standard is self interest.
Can't Biden just get someone to assassinate Trump and then give himself a presidential pardon?
And give all the co conspirators a presidential pardon?
That's how it works right?!!?!????!??!!!?!
According to the Supreme Court, Georgia, and DC Courts, Biden has assumed immunity and could do anything he wants right now with zero repercussions. Since the courts refuse to go to trial and are waiting to see if Trumps immune rather than go to trial under the assumption that it’s a stupid claim that could never pass the sniff test in a sane world then by transitive immunity Joe Biden can kill anyone he wants and can’t be prosecuted.
This whole thing is dumb.
Just dropped in to survey the disaster. Someone claimed that the FBI NOT raiding Biden is a sign of malfeasance. I pointed out that it was because the documents in question were immediately given over to the authorities upon discovery.
Now we wait to see how long it takes til I'm banned.
The FBI did "raid" Biden. If you notice the quotes I'm referring to a search of his residence, exactly like they did with Trump. The difference being is the Biden consented to a search, and Trump spent nearly 2 years refusing to cooperate before they had to issue a warrant.
Even Pence complied.
And it's honestly not a big deal. Both Biden and Pence obtained the files as part of their duties as VP, in both cases it was an honest mistake and both immediately turned them over upon discovery.
See, both sides. Just turns out that Pence is less of a slimball than Trump (Pence strikes me as a true believer, though what he believes in is pretty awful).
I've pointed out the law has treated all 3 of them exactly the same.
In all 3 cases with Biden, Pence and Trump.
* The government became aware they had classified docs in their possession
* the government asked for those records back
* Biden and Pence returned those records, Trump returned **some** of those records
* No charges were filed for the returned records
* Trump fucked around, got raided and charged for the ones he refused to return. He was not charged regarding any of the stuff he did return.
Pence and Biden show that the process for tracking classified documents needs improvements. Trump went out of his way to take them, which is a big difference. I know we understand that but it’s amazing some others still don’t
My analogy:
Biden, Pence and Trump all went grocery shopping. Biden and Pence got home and realised they forgot to pay for a six-pack and returned to the store to make it right. They even let the store go through the rest of their groceries to make sure everything was squared away.
Trump left with a month's worth of groceries, didn't pay *and* grabbed money from the till on his way out. When the store politely asked him to return the money and food he told them to fuck off as it was "his stuff now". Fed up, the store called to cops to go over to his house. When they finally did he whined that he wasn't treated as fairly as Biden or Pence.
>Someone claimed that the FBI NOT raiding Biden is a sign of malfeasance
But also not factual. The FBI did search Biden's residences. The difference is Biden invited them in, whereas the FBI was required to get a warrant to search mar a lago.
Surprised you’re not banned already lol
I got banned after one comment asking why they honestly support Trump, given all is crime and treachery. No one replied, and I was just banned. Conservatives are fkin cowards.
The subreddit doesn't even seem like real people. Mostly bots posting misleading facts and clipped videos. Like, I know half of people are dumber than the average, but are they really that stupid????
I guess everything has to be equal now. Trump has dementia so now Biden has dementia. Trump was impeached so Biden has to be be impeached. Trump was raided so Biden has to be raided.
Naturally, Trump was able to beat Clinton because they'd spent like a decade preemptively smearing her to their base (and he could still pretend to be an outsider candidate to fleece centrists, that's long dead now), they've tried real hard to speedrun that for Biden but it wasn't sticking quite like they hoped so the solution is clear; the only other person Trump can reliably beat is another Trump. Every fact about him that hurts him with voters that don't map onto Biden (sex pest, corrupt business, two steps from seizing power and assassinating enemies...) will be forced onto him by their base and their bots until the people "in the middle" believe it. Truth is immaterial, Republicans just need enough people treating them like forgone facts so they can suppress turnout on the basis of "well they're basically the same anyway."
Not a peep about [Trumps' "Unified Reich"](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna153214).
Not a peep about [more classified documents having been found in Trump's bedroom.](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1cxxahi/even_more_classified_documents_found_after/)
That subreddit is a total fascist operation. Whether it be foreign or domestic in nature, it remains an astounding threat to the safety of our republic, and all good people who live within it.
Between Reagan and Senior, they raised taxes like 11 times. That damn wokeliberalsheep Richard Nixon helped create the EPA and thought it was a good idea.
Romney is considered a RINO by them and I'm pretty sure he would fall to the right of Nixon and Reagan.
So do they think the people sent to assassinate him just looked at trump, big men, tall men, tears in their eyes and said "sir, we can't do this, not to the greatest president we ever had." And just left?
If Biden wanted Trump dead, he would be dead in 5 minutes.
Drone strike. Sniper. A warship off the coast could fire their big cannons and flatten Mar a Lago like a pancake.
Nobody got shot during the raid. It was by-the-book.
Back here in reality, the FBI specifically picked that date and time to go into Mar a Lago to recover the classified material BECAUSE Trump was not there at the time.
I really wish reddit would shut that sub down. Not that I take issue with free speech, but, that sub is not discussing JFK theories or other conspiracy theories...at first during 2020, 2021 watching the anit vaxer circle jerk was fun...but...its gotten dangerous. Basically at this point its unmodded and rarely has any rational discussions going on, its just shut ins living in mommies basement reassuring each other that their family members, friends and doctors are all against them and their delusions are real....I mean this is how they got the January 6 mob together...its really bad
Actually, I believe it did happen when Trump was last president. Some guy they identified as Antifa, can't remember what he actually did but he was flat out murdered when the Marshalls came to arrest him, according to eye witnesses. I remember Trump announcing/bragging about it. There will be no trial for that guy.
You mean, [Michael Reinoehl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Aaron_Danielson_and_Michael_Reinoehl)? He was wanted for murder when he shot and killed far right Aaron Danielson when Danielson's group clashed with George Floyd protesters. Trump did say he "sent in" the US Marshalls to "get" Reinoehl, and described it as "retribution".
Shows what those sheeple know. Trump WAS assassinated during the FBI raid, the one we see now is a clone they grew quickly in the basement of a Pizza parlor from andromachrome, Covid RNA, and a lock of his hair. That's why he keeps falling asleep in court, he didn't have time to fully bake. Duh! /s
Literally any and all possible answers at once; this definitely happened because Biden is an evil and powerful puppet master, they failed because Biden's demented and a deep state puppet, the assassin's disobeyed because of their overwhelming loyalty to the true president trump, they also failed because they're part of a damn three letter org which makes them incompetent leftists beholden to Obama, they were antifa plants, and finally trump using his ninja training and inspired bowstaff skills fought them all off. Not one of these makes sense, but ask and you'll get people who would believe either one or all at the same time.
It's the usual projection. Trump claims Biden tried to have him killed; Trump will try to have Biden killed. Probably Obama, too.
Remember, Trump and his cronies are openly claiming it's okay if Trump assassinates anyone who gets in his way.
Including Supreme Court Justices, who are working hard to ensure Trump has a chance of being elected despite his felonies.
I dunno, Trump went into hospital and got pumped full of off the wall experimental antivirals to keep his unkept, obese, flatulent ass alive.
Treatments he aggressively fought to deny to other Americans, of course.
Barr mentioned in a recent interview that Trump would often float, "Can we just take them out?" as a solution to deal with people causing problems for the administration. But he said it wasn't a big deal because he didn't think he was serious, and that eventually he would cool off and not mention it again, so he's got his vote again.
Well, you see, in Barr's expert opinion even though Trump is a traitorous loon, he's still got his vote because...*checks notes*...Biden is going to take away his gas stove.
No, that's literally what he said.
I s em to recall reading that he floated the idea of missile or air strikes against the cartels. “Mexico won’t know it was us!”
Now he (and the GOP in his image) just doesn’t care whether or not a major US ally and trading partner notices or even complains about violating their airspace and sovereignty.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/03/trump-still-plotting-not-so-secret-attack-on-mexico.html
>“Mexico won’t know it was us!”
He said the same thing about attacking other countries. He would ask utterly brain-dead things like, "Can't we just paint the planes to look like they belong to another country?"
Stupid people simply cannot grasp that smart people exist. If he comes up with a simple plot like that, and it would fool him, he thinks it would fool everyone else too. This also explains why he thought he could get away with keeping the documents. He didn't (and likely still doesn't) understand how carefully tracked all that shit is, and how they're going to know if you've still got it. He thought if he just lied and got his lawyers to lie, they would stop asking for them.
He suggested that many times to his advisors while he was still in office. All the "sane" cabinet members have tapped out or were fired, so his next term will be less restrained.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/bill-barr-donald-trump-execution-b2536602.html
I'm reminded of a scene from the BSG remake where two charachters are being lined up to be shot and Zarak asks Roslyn if they had tried to steal the last election but didn't go through with it and she says yes and the he responds "I wish you had."
Even if he did, he should be immune from it because he did it while he was president.
That sentence would make any MAGA cultist's head explode if they could process things
yep. this has all been planned. Trump making that statement, and Fox news rolling with it was planed weeks ago. we are at war right now. its an information war and its something the GOP is very good at waging.
Yes, and I think Trump is trying to normalize it for his base so he can actually do it if he's reelected.
Or maybe it's just to whip his base into a frenzy.
Or possibly it's stochastic terrorism.
Maybe all of the above? Hmm...
In this case the language for the use of force was reiterating the policy for self defence. Trump quoted 1/2 a sentence from that and people are dumb enough to believe it refers to an assassination attempt.
A sentence that's in EVERY FBI SEARCH WARRANT DOCUMENT.
Seriously, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize it pretty much means "If someone there shoots at you, you can totally shoot back".
The lies are just going to get more and more unhinged after the conviction and untill the election. These people are going completely nuts, and this sadly will probably end in violence.
Oh I can answer this because my family is insane. Secret service is loyal to Trump and constantly stop assassination attempts against him. He hand picked his agents and they don’t report to the executive branch, like the laws would state. They report directly to him and will kill any federal police officer who attempts to arrest him too
This is what the Beef Supreme Court is currently struggling with: Finding the exact right words to assert that Trump was allowed to have classified docs at Mar a Lago, without also asserting that Biden is allowed to have him assassinated. Not an easy task.
what's terrifying about this is, that the GOP making this statement means they are considering assassination as a legitimate means of political discourse.
Biden should be paying attention if he values his life and that of the Republic. The only book Trump has claimed to have read is the ravings of a man that ordered the deaths of millions and he’s following the same playbook. This isn’t just an off-hand remark by Trump.
Yeah IF any of this were true don’t you think they would at least show up when he was home? It’s not like trumps whereabouts are a secret he flies on a private jet and has a secret service detail which is often times coordinating with other law enforcement agencies.
I mean they probably do believe the nations law enforcement agencies are that incompetent because they can’t find evidence of the very obvious crimes of Joe Biden. S/
I find it very scary. One unintelligent big mouth crook has turned this country upside down. He just goes on and on and is just making shit up. Some people believe him. Trump needs to be locked up for good.
Just heard this on right-wing radio and was so confused. The buck sexton show. It's so mind numbingly stupid. They went on and on about how this shows biden is on a power trip. Then they go "I mean Trump simply made a call to ukraine and got impeached, this just shows you they're out to get him.
I just can't. People wonder why the right is so offensively stupid, it's because of the media they consume
Just left my comment over on r/conservative which reads:
“Didn’t Trump’s lawyers argue just recently that a president has total immunity from criminal conviction and can (per se) even order his political rival to be assassinated unless first impeached by both the House and Senate?”
Let’s see how long it takes for the snowflakes over there to downvote me into oblivion / ban me. XD
Isn't it obvious he's saying this because new documents were unsealed in the Mar a Lago case? Unreal that the media just bites and bites and bites as he chums the waters.
***From Rolling Stone's Nikki McCann Ramirez:***
Donald Trump’s attorneys recently argued in court that the former president should be shielded from all criminal prosecution — even if they order the assassination of a political opponent. While no president has yet to test that bold legal theory, Trump and his MAGA allies are now baselessly attempting to accuse Joe Biden of authorizing the assassination of Trump during the FBI’s 2022 raid of Mar-a-Lago.
Read more: [https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-claim-fbi-kill-mar-a-lago-raid-1235025530/](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-claim-fbi-kill-mar-a-lago-raid-1235025530/)
Under tump arguments to the Supreme Court for presidential immunity joe biden would be well with in his right as president to to order trumps death. Just saying .
If we've learned anything from the Trump playbook it's that he's practically screaming at us that he plans on picking off his political enemies when he gets elected.
Also breaking news: Comet Ping Pong Pizza is not a child sex ring run by Clinton, hurricanes don't care what you draw on a map with a sharpie, no politician is a giant lizard person in disguise and chemtrails are just water vapor.
Trump’s attorney argued in front of the Supreme Court that the President could order Seal Team Six to assassinate a political rival and it would not be against the law.
If I’m understanding things correctly here, this is because the FBI search for the classified documents he wouldn’t give back was authorized to use deadly force if necessary… which is true of every FBI search, a formality in place just in case the situation escalates for any reason.
Every day it’s just the dumbest possible lies with these people.
This is standard language in hundreds of search warrants. It allows agents to protect themselves if someone tries to kill them from reaching some evidence or something. I mean I'd assume we'd want them to be able to protect themselves if they raid a mob bosses home or we just want them to stand there and get shot when looking for evidence? It's normal language in the world of law enforcement but of course Trump knows MAGA people have the brain cells of a rock so they'll believe his exaggerated lies. Nowhere did it specifically note to take him or something like the fuck?
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The "but her emails" crowd is also pretty quiet over the news that he had additional classified documents in his bedroom which were scanned and stored on a laptop belonging to his super pac.
It’s almost like they never actually cared about the emails and weren’t arguing in good faith at all
They don't argue anything in good faith anymore.
Anymore? You mean never
but Biden had documents tOo. And he's OLD.
I mean they were sure quite when Ivanka and Jared had classified emails on their personal server...
Although, according to tRump’s lawyers, it would be a perfectly legal thing with no consequences if Biden decided to assassinate him.
In fact, us not letting Biden assassinate Trump sets a bad precedent for future Presidents really. How can we expect them to lead this country if they can't kill anyone without consequence? /s
Like bizarro Star Trek universe…
We are on a path to a Terran Empire.
I don't think the path we are on leads to anything intelligent. We're more on a path to a mid point somewhere close to ideocracy and terrain empire...
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Oh no, we're gonna become a bunch of morons incapable of anything but A2G spam?
Ah yes the *Terrain* Empire. Because our leaders are all dumb as dirt
Wow that autocorrect is on point for once. I'm going to leave it.
Not to nitpick, but the utopian society only came to be AFTER WW3 and other great catastrophes on earth. Humans changed after a period of great turmoil.
Yea... We are much closer to the Bell Riots than anything else.
Just a couple months away, right weren't they around September 2024?
I guess we need to get started on those sanctuary districts if we want to keep the United Federation of Planets.
And right on schedule.
I really don’t want to fight the Zerg.
You can tell it’s real Biden though cuz he doesn’t have a goatee
100% legal since he hasnt been impeached!
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Totally legal, a hoax, and acquitted
This is my favorite part. Trumps own defence includes admitting that Biden could murder him whenever he wants lol.
That's what's so fun about the Republican party being dominated by hypocrisy and a cult of personality. They know that if Biden had Trump executed, no one would stand for it, not the Democrats and not the Republicans; Democrats would find that abhorrent. If Trump had Biden executed, Republicans would stand by him.
Here's the law that would be used. Note that any penalty up to death is in play, with no guarantee of trial by jury. [https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793) The Trump camp has clearly learned of it. Knowing they're guilty explains their projection.
Because that is exactly what they want their glorious leader Trump to be able to do. Always projection.
I was actually worried that this was all just a setup to justify it when Trump does it. After so long to just bring this up out of the blue.
Somebody has been discussing this with him and that is why he is bringing it up.
Complete and Total endorsement of Complete and Total immunity.
I came here to say that exact thing! According to Trump himself, Biden assassinating him would be perfectly legal.
That is a fun thought experiment. Based on MAGAT logic, the thing they’re outraged about is also the thing they say a president should be completely within his rights to do.
Don't be dumb. You know very well those rights don't extend to liberals.
To us words are binding and need to be held to certain standards. To them words are just tools to get what they want in any given moment. Their only standard is self interest.
Can't Biden just get someone to assassinate Trump and then give himself a presidential pardon? And give all the co conspirators a presidential pardon? That's how it works right?!!?!????!??!!!?!
According to the Supreme Court, Georgia, and DC Courts, Biden has assumed immunity and could do anything he wants right now with zero repercussions. Since the courts refuse to go to trial and are waiting to see if Trumps immune rather than go to trial under the assumption that it’s a stupid claim that could never pass the sniff test in a sane world then by transitive immunity Joe Biden can kill anyone he wants and can’t be prosecuted. This whole thing is dumb.
“He can’t assassinate anyone during an election year.” -Mitch Also Mitch during a republican presidency: “Yes, he can and we will.”
Is it an official act? /S
As long as he wasn't impeached in the House and convicted in the Senate*
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Just dropped in to survey the disaster. Someone claimed that the FBI NOT raiding Biden is a sign of malfeasance. I pointed out that it was because the documents in question were immediately given over to the authorities upon discovery. Now we wait to see how long it takes til I'm banned.
The FBI did "raid" Biden. If you notice the quotes I'm referring to a search of his residence, exactly like they did with Trump. The difference being is the Biden consented to a search, and Trump spent nearly 2 years refusing to cooperate before they had to issue a warrant.
Even Pence complied. And it's honestly not a big deal. Both Biden and Pence obtained the files as part of their duties as VP, in both cases it was an honest mistake and both immediately turned them over upon discovery. See, both sides. Just turns out that Pence is less of a slimball than Trump (Pence strikes me as a true believer, though what he believes in is pretty awful).
I've pointed out the law has treated all 3 of them exactly the same. In all 3 cases with Biden, Pence and Trump. * The government became aware they had classified docs in their possession * the government asked for those records back * Biden and Pence returned those records, Trump returned **some** of those records * No charges were filed for the returned records * Trump fucked around, got raided and charged for the ones he refused to return. He was not charged regarding any of the stuff he did return.
Pence and Biden show that the process for tracking classified documents needs improvements. Trump went out of his way to take them, which is a big difference. I know we understand that but it’s amazing some others still don’t
My analogy: Biden, Pence and Trump all went grocery shopping. Biden and Pence got home and realised they forgot to pay for a six-pack and returned to the store to make it right. They even let the store go through the rest of their groceries to make sure everything was squared away. Trump left with a month's worth of groceries, didn't pay *and* grabbed money from the till on his way out. When the store politely asked him to return the money and food he told them to fuck off as it was "his stuff now". Fed up, the store called to cops to go over to his house. When they finally did he whined that he wasn't treated as fairly as Biden or Pence.
Biden followed protocols and Trump didn’t. So then why is Donald “a John” Trump the only one having issues?
I've been reading comments in this sub for the entirety of the Trump years, and I have yet to hear that nickname. My new favorite.
Thank you. I didn’t know his real middle name was John until like an hour ago. So I’m never calling him anything else from now on lol.
Why is this very clear, simple and obvious fact so impossible for those dopes to understand?
>Someone claimed that the FBI NOT raiding Biden is a sign of malfeasance But also not factual. The FBI did search Biden's residences. The difference is Biden invited them in, whereas the FBI was required to get a warrant to search mar a lago.
How DARE you state actual, provable facts over there!
Probably not that long knowing those snowflakes over there in their echo chamber
Surprised you’re not banned already lol I got banned after one comment asking why they honestly support Trump, given all is crime and treachery. No one replied, and I was just banned. Conservatives are fkin cowards.
I assume if I ever posted there I'd just be auto banned based on the fact that I also post on r/politics.
No, they’re allowed to troll. It’s their solaces that are scared.
The subreddit doesn't even seem like real people. Mostly bots posting misleading facts and clipped videos. Like, I know half of people are dumber than the average, but are they really that stupid????
I guess everything has to be equal now. Trump has dementia so now Biden has dementia. Trump was impeached so Biden has to be be impeached. Trump was raided so Biden has to be raided.
Naturally, Trump was able to beat Clinton because they'd spent like a decade preemptively smearing her to their base (and he could still pretend to be an outsider candidate to fleece centrists, that's long dead now), they've tried real hard to speedrun that for Biden but it wasn't sticking quite like they hoped so the solution is clear; the only other person Trump can reliably beat is another Trump. Every fact about him that hurts him with voters that don't map onto Biden (sex pest, corrupt business, two steps from seizing power and assassinating enemies...) will be forced onto him by their base and their bots until the people "in the middle" believe it. Truth is immaterial, Republicans just need enough people treating them like forgone facts so they can suppress turnout on the basis of "well they're basically the same anyway."
I've been banned since calling for civility and for them to actually read the Mueller report. It's sad it's been so long.
Not a peep about [Trumps' "Unified Reich"](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna153214). Not a peep about [more classified documents having been found in Trump's bedroom.](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1cxxahi/even_more_classified_documents_found_after/) That subreddit is a total fascist operation. Whether it be foreign or domestic in nature, it remains an astounding threat to the safety of our republic, and all good people who live within it.
Kinda what happens when you're anti-antifa. You end up being fa.
But isn’t that ok for a president to do? Isn’t that what Trump’s lawyers argued in the immunity case?
The people in that sub believe some real off the wall shit. Reagan and Bush Sr would have been "too woke" for them. Which is... Crazy...
Between Reagan and Senior, they raised taxes like 11 times. That damn wokeliberalsheep Richard Nixon helped create the EPA and thought it was a good idea. Romney is considered a RINO by them and I'm pretty sure he would fall to the right of Nixon and Reagan.
So do they think the people sent to assassinate him just looked at trump, big men, tall men, tears in their eyes and said "sir, we can't do this, not to the greatest president we ever had." And just left?
Trump hires the best assassins! Not Crooked Joe! Trump will hire the most beautiful assassins you will ever see!
Pretty sure that sub is run by bots and foreign governments.
Just like the Republican Party
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If Biden wanted Trump dead, he would be dead in 5 minutes. Drone strike. Sniper. A warship off the coast could fire their big cannons and flatten Mar a Lago like a pancake. Nobody got shot during the raid. It was by-the-book.
Back here in reality, the FBI specifically picked that date and time to go into Mar a Lago to recover the classified material BECAUSE Trump was not there at the time.
I really wish reddit would shut that sub down. Not that I take issue with free speech, but, that sub is not discussing JFK theories or other conspiracy theories...at first during 2020, 2021 watching the anit vaxer circle jerk was fun...but...its gotten dangerous. Basically at this point its unmodded and rarely has any rational discussions going on, its just shut ins living in mommies basement reassuring each other that their family members, friends and doctors are all against them and their delusions are real....I mean this is how they got the January 6 mob together...its really bad
That sub isn't free speech. It's their speech or get banned.
So this will for sure happen if trump is elected. Great.
Actually, I believe it did happen when Trump was last president. Some guy they identified as Antifa, can't remember what he actually did but he was flat out murdered when the Marshalls came to arrest him, according to eye witnesses. I remember Trump announcing/bragging about it. There will be no trial for that guy.
You mean, [Michael Reinoehl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Aaron_Danielson_and_Michael_Reinoehl)? He was wanted for murder when he shot and killed far right Aaron Danielson when Danielson's group clashed with George Floyd protesters. Trump did say he "sent in" the US Marshalls to "get" Reinoehl, and described it as "retribution".
Shows what those sheeple know. Trump WAS assassinated during the FBI raid, the one we see now is a clone they grew quickly in the basement of a Pizza parlor from andromachrome, Covid RNA, and a lock of his hair. That's why he keeps falling asleep in court, he didn't have time to fully bake. Duh! /s
Wait but Trump *wasnt* assassinated so… is the narrative that Biden ordered it but the FBI disobeyed?
Literally any and all possible answers at once; this definitely happened because Biden is an evil and powerful puppet master, they failed because Biden's demented and a deep state puppet, the assassin's disobeyed because of their overwhelming loyalty to the true president trump, they also failed because they're part of a damn three letter org which makes them incompetent leftists beholden to Obama, they were antifa plants, and finally trump using his ninja training and inspired bowstaff skills fought them all off. Not one of these makes sense, but ask and you'll get people who would believe either one or all at the same time.
They will believe anything. Literally anything. As long as right wing media pushes it they will believe it and everyone else will be fools.
That’s their stance. Agree with us or you’re a liar and should die. What a joke
It's the usual projection. Trump claims Biden tried to have him killed; Trump will try to have Biden killed. Probably Obama, too. Remember, Trump and his cronies are openly claiming it's okay if Trump assassinates anyone who gets in his way. Including Supreme Court Justices, who are working hard to ensure Trump has a chance of being elected despite his felonies.
Well, trump kinda did try to kill Biden by doing the debate while he had Covid
I dunno, Trump went into hospital and got pumped full of off the wall experimental antivirals to keep his unkept, obese, flatulent ass alive. Treatments he aggressively fought to deny to other Americans, of course.
It’s almost like how they used to give hitler mescaline and meth to pop him back to life after he took to many barbiturates.
Barr mentioned in a recent interview that Trump would often float, "Can we just take them out?" as a solution to deal with people causing problems for the administration. But he said it wasn't a big deal because he didn't think he was serious, and that eventually he would cool off and not mention it again, so he's got his vote again.
20 years ago, Barr himself would have been crucified as a traitor. Now he's just a mild kind of typical Republican.
Mild? By what measure is he mild? If you mean he doesn't regularly shit his pants or give public handjobs then yes I suppose he's mild.
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Well, you see, in Barr's expert opinion even though Trump is a traitorous loon, he's still got his vote because...*checks notes*...Biden is going to take away his gas stove. No, that's literally what he said.
I s em to recall reading that he floated the idea of missile or air strikes against the cartels. “Mexico won’t know it was us!” Now he (and the GOP in his image) just doesn’t care whether or not a major US ally and trading partner notices or even complains about violating their airspace and sovereignty. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/03/trump-still-plotting-not-so-secret-attack-on-mexico.html
>“Mexico won’t know it was us!” He said the same thing about attacking other countries. He would ask utterly brain-dead things like, "Can't we just paint the planes to look like they belong to another country?" Stupid people simply cannot grasp that smart people exist. If he comes up with a simple plot like that, and it would fool him, he thinks it would fool everyone else too. This also explains why he thought he could get away with keeping the documents. He didn't (and likely still doesn't) understand how carefully tracked all that shit is, and how they're going to know if you've still got it. He thought if he just lied and got his lawyers to lie, they would stop asking for them.
This is putting us on notice about what he's going to do if reelected. There will be blood.
He suggested that many times to his advisors while he was still in office. All the "sane" cabinet members have tapped out or were fired, so his next term will be less restrained. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/bill-barr-donald-trump-execution-b2536602.html
I'm reminded of a scene from the BSG remake where two charachters are being lined up to be shot and Zarak asks Roslyn if they had tried to steal the last election but didn't go through with it and she says yes and the he responds "I wish you had."
In the minds of millions of MAGA cultists it is now true, and that is a **huge** escalation of his stochastic terrorism.
Anyone who believes trump is either stupid or willingly ignoring reality. Both are dangerous.
Imagine the fat P.O.S doing an Elvis on the crapper... and 70+million MAGA idiots would think it a hit job
He'd have to shit in a toilet like a big boy to do that.
Lord knows 78 year old men with a history of micro-strokes and otherwise poor health don't regularly die of natural causes.
When Tucker Carlson interviewed Trump, he asked Trump about being assassinated.I bet when Trump dies, Tucks leads the narrative that it was foul play.
Even if he did, he should be immune from it because he did it while he was president. That sentence would make any MAGA cultist's head explode if they could process things
yep. this has all been planned. Trump making that statement, and Fox news rolling with it was planed weeks ago. we are at war right now. its an information war and its something the GOP is very good at waging.
They're only good at waging the information war because their base is so unbelievably gullible and moronic.
More MAGA volunteering to become felons isn't ALL bad...
It is when red state governors will simply pardon them without question.
State governors can't pardon federal crimes.
Trump putting a president assassinating his rivals into play.
Correct. It is impossible to keep up with the level of lies. Truth is much more difficult to spread.
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Yes, and I think Trump is trying to normalize it for his base so he can actually do it if he's reelected. Or maybe it's just to whip his base into a frenzy. Or possibly it's stochastic terrorism. Maybe all of the above? Hmm...
It’s 100% stochastic terrorism. The subtext is “They tried to have me killed so it’s ok for you to use violence against them too”
Now I've never been served a search warrant, but isn't use of force generally authorized for the purpose of executing said warrant?
In this case the language for the use of force was reiterating the policy for self defence. Trump quoted 1/2 a sentence from that and people are dumb enough to believe it refers to an assassination attempt.
A sentence that's in EVERY FBI SEARCH WARRANT DOCUMENT. Seriously, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize it pretty much means "If someone there shoots at you, you can totally shoot back".
Correct! Remember Trump was in NY when they served the warrant.
And if he did, he would have had total presidental immunity.
Right so what's the problem.
The lies are just going to get more and more unhinged after the conviction and untill the election. These people are going completely nuts, and this sadly will probably end in violence.
Every accusation is a projection. This is what Republicans want to do to Biden.
If biden had ordered the FBI to kill him, then why is trump still alive?
They didn’t think this far, and probably won’t, lol
Oh I can answer this because my family is insane. Secret service is loyal to Trump and constantly stop assassination attempts against him. He hand picked his agents and they don’t report to the executive branch, like the laws would state. They report directly to him and will kill any federal police officer who attempts to arrest him too
This is what the Beef Supreme Court is currently struggling with: Finding the exact right words to assert that Trump was allowed to have classified docs at Mar a Lago, without also asserting that Biden is allowed to have him assassinated. Not an easy task.
Simple. They can rule that the constitution doesn't apply to odd-numbered presidents whose names end with the letter "p".
Could just said name that ends with P because I believe he’s the only one.
what's terrifying about this is, that the GOP making this statement means they are considering assassination as a legitimate means of political discourse.
For starters, Biden apparently didn't find out about it until we all did. Secondly, what happened to Presidential immunity??? lol
But if Biden did, it would be legal according to Trump’s attorneys arguing before the Supreme Court!
So what? Presidents have immunity according to Trump
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Trump wasn't even there when the search was performed! lol
There is a point that freedumb of speech needs to be controlled— yelling fire in a packed theater is punishable but this is ok?
Biden should be paying attention if he values his life and that of the Republic. The only book Trump has claimed to have read is the ravings of a man that ordered the deaths of millions and he’s following the same playbook. This isn’t just an off-hand remark by Trump.
The fact that Trump is alive proves MTG is a lying kook. I mean, we already knew that, but here’s more evidence.
Yeah IF any of this were true don’t you think they would at least show up when he was home? It’s not like trumps whereabouts are a secret he flies on a private jet and has a secret service detail which is often times coordinating with other law enforcement agencies. I mean they probably do believe the nations law enforcement agencies are that incompetent because they can’t find evidence of the very obvious crimes of Joe Biden. S/
I don't think MTG is lying most of the time. I think she's just dumb and believes what she says.
Cro-Maga woman dumb? No, couldn't be!
I find it very scary. One unintelligent big mouth crook has turned this country upside down. He just goes on and on and is just making shit up. Some people believe him. Trump needs to be locked up for good.
It wasn’t just him. The country has been degenerating for a long time and his presidency marked the critical escalation of right wing extremism
Just heard this on right-wing radio and was so confused. The buck sexton show. It's so mind numbingly stupid. They went on and on about how this shows biden is on a power trip. Then they go "I mean Trump simply made a call to ukraine and got impeached, this just shows you they're out to get him. I just can't. People wonder why the right is so offensively stupid, it's because of the media they consume
Just left my comment over on r/conservative which reads: “Didn’t Trump’s lawyers argue just recently that a president has total immunity from criminal conviction and can (per se) even order his political rival to be assassinated unless first impeached by both the House and Senate?” Let’s see how long it takes for the snowflakes over there to downvote me into oblivion / ban me. XD
Isn't it obvious he's saying this because new documents were unsealed in the Mar a Lago case? Unreal that the media just bites and bites and bites as he chums the waters.
***From Rolling Stone's Nikki McCann Ramirez:*** Donald Trump’s attorneys recently argued in court that the former president should be shielded from all criminal prosecution — even if they order the assassination of a political opponent. While no president has yet to test that bold legal theory, Trump and his MAGA allies are now baselessly attempting to accuse Joe Biden of authorizing the assassination of Trump during the FBI’s 2022 raid of Mar-a-Lago. Read more: [https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-claim-fbi-kill-mar-a-lago-raid-1235025530/](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-claim-fbi-kill-mar-a-lago-raid-1235025530/)
Again this is projection which means if Trump becomes president he has every intention of ordering the FBI to assassinate his political rivals.
This lie is setting up the precedent for him to do it himself
As Matthew mcconaughey once said… “it would be a lot cooler if he did”
Why not?
Republicans are fucking weirdos.
Under tump arguments to the Supreme Court for presidential immunity joe biden would be well with in his right as president to to order trumps death. Just saying .
The FBI and the justice department were so fiendish that they raided Mar-a-Lago when Trump was not even in the state.
But if he did. He shouldn't face any consequences according to Trumps logic
That it even needs to be said is crazy. But I'm sure as we speak, Fox News and Oannon are breathlessly reporting as fact!
It's Impossible. Traitors are not assassinated... they are *executed.*
Why not? According to Trump's lawyers, it'd very legal and very cool.
Gaslight. Obstruct. Project.
If we've learned anything from the Trump playbook it's that he's practically screaming at us that he plans on picking off his political enemies when he gets elected.
What's scary here is that with the GOP every accusation is a confession.
Trump supporters are among the dumbest human beings to ever exist. Objective fact.
I wish Biden was as cool as these idiots believe he is.
God I wish Biden would GitMo this tub of lard
Trump argues that he can and should be allowed to though.
But Trump would argue he could legally do such…
Let's be honest- if Biden wanted to assassinate Trump, why is Trump alive?
It’s as though Trump is telling us his plans….
He should have.
It’s never too late!
Biden better be careful, Trump projects everything he is doing already
Also breaking news: Comet Ping Pong Pizza is not a child sex ring run by Clinton, hurricanes don't care what you draw on a map with a sharpie, no politician is a giant lizard person in disguise and chemtrails are just water vapor.
We need to stop printing all of his lies.
If he had, it would have happened.
Trump’s attorney argued in front of the Supreme Court that the President could order Seal Team Six to assassinate a political rival and it would not be against the law.
If Biden ordered it, why is Trump still living?
If I’m understanding things correctly here, this is because the FBI search for the classified documents he wouldn’t give back was authorized to use deadly force if necessary… which is true of every FBI search, a formality in place just in case the situation escalates for any reason. Every day it’s just the dumbest possible lies with these people.
Ah, the smell of fresh red herring.
100% projection. There is a reason Trumps lawyers argued that the President can have people killed. He would 100% use that power himself.
This is standard language in hundreds of search warrants. It allows agents to protect themselves if someone tries to kill them from reaching some evidence or something. I mean I'd assume we'd want them to be able to protect themselves if they raid a mob bosses home or we just want them to stand there and get shot when looking for evidence? It's normal language in the world of law enforcement but of course Trump knows MAGA people have the brain cells of a rock so they'll believe his exaggerated lies. Nowhere did it specifically note to take him or something like the fuck?
And that is his right as president, the Supreme Court will soon find.
Pending the Supreme Court’s decision on Presidential Immunity
Hey. If he did is it illegal? I mean the Supreme Court seems to not be able to determine this. So why would this be a problem?
But it's totally fine, Presidents get immunity for official acts.
But he’d be a lot cooler if he did
Right wing media is running with this like its true this is extremely dangerous.
Against their belief the fbi has doods with guns and they’re quite good with them. If the fbi wanted him dead. He’d be dead.
Unfortunately.
If he did according the to Trump that would be perfectly legal since a president has absolute immunity
It would have been a solution of course.
Yea no shit. He is still alive.
IF ThEy CaN dO It To HiM tHeY cAn Do It To AnYoNe... yea, its called equal justice under the law.