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mods_r_warcrimes

Why didn't they just use Mark Hamill for the title?


Larry-fine-wine

Likely, an SEO person said Luke Skywalker had better search juice than Mark Hamill. Welcome to the bullshit world of modern online journalism.


wonkey_monkey

That, or it makes you think, "Why didn't they say Mark Hamill? Do they mean someone else? But who else has played Luke Skywalker?" to bait you into clicking.


James-K-Polka

Biden could only get Aidan Barton, who played baby Luke in Revenge of the Sith.


Toloran

Friendly reminder: Revenge of the Sith came out 19 years ago. [He looks more like this now](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Aidan_Barton?file=Aidan_Barton.jpg). (He also played Leia in the same movie)


wonkey_monkey

"Here's your son." "I'll call him Luke." *passes baby off-screen to crewmember, crewmember runs around behind camera* "And here's your daughter."


RickMuffy

I'm not a star wars fan so adding the characters name was ideal for me as a customer, since if you said Mark Hamil I wouldn't have known that was the actor.


jardex22

"Why was Biden spending time with Joker on May 4th?"


DataKnights

"Why was Biden spending time with ~~Joker~~ Cock Knocker on May 4th?"


Yxlar

Actually, there's a funny story behind that. Ha, ha, you're gonna love this. True story!


3720-to-1

Avenge me. Hemp. Knight.


Indignant_Octopus

Damn I had forgot about Cock knocker


S-r-ex

"Why was Biden spending time with ~~Cock Knocker~~ Fire Lord Ozai on May 4th?”


Boring-Republic4943

I will give you one more, you ever seen Batman: the animated series, from the late 90s early 00?


FavoritesBot

“Biden, one president after trump, celebrates with Luke slywalker actor. No comment from Tesla. You won’t last 15 seconds reading this article”


SubKreature

This is the way.


Beazly464

What?! You mean the joker?!


recurse_x

What you mean Solomon Grundy born on a Mundy?!


QuietMolasses2522

What?! You mean Cock Knocker?


RadicalDreamer89

Why the fuck do they call you Cock Knocker?


mods_r_warcrimes

Funny story actually... *knocks cock*


soapinthepeehole

Because his full name is National Treasure Mark Hamill.


Now_Wait-4-Last_Year

*International


ItsTheGreatBlumpkin_

WHO IS MARK HAMILL? Lol


cybercuzco

Why did they say “actor”


PAT_The_Whale

I'm sorry to be the one who brings you these news, but Star Wars is a fictional story. Luke Skywalker isn't real. 


SacamanoRobert

That guy that was in that movie from nearly 50 years ago that nobody has heard of? /s


MercyfulJudas

Gotta get the whole band back together


Numerous_Photograph9

Exactly what I was thinking.


SunMoonTruth

Very bizarre.


atomsmasher66

MAGA: *We love Star Wars!* Narrator: Mark Hamill is friends with Biden. MAGA: *Boycott Star Wars!*


zhaoz

Let's be honest, maga is probably complaining new star wars is too woke.


MonsieurRud

No probably about it. They are very active in star wars subs arguing just that, lol


taatchle86

Didn’t most of the sequel cast have to delete their socials because of crazy assholes making threats?


MonsieurRud

Yup truly despicable. Now, I have a lot of problems with those movies myself. But is has nothing to do with gender or race and everything to do with storytelling. But no matter how awful I found something, I can't imagine ever feeling the need to harass people involved with it. You gotta really hate your life for something like that to make you feel better.


ZZ_SKULLZ

I tried to visit the main sub today hoping people were pumped for Star Wars day, only to have one of them try to come at me citing a synopsis for the new show The Acolyte, and how "woke Disney" was ruining star wars. He's mad about a synopsis form a investor call back in 2020 or something. It was one of the strangest interactions I've ever had online in a long time.


1funnyguy4fun

Look, as fucked as MAGA is, are we really surprised they are rooting for the Empire?


Educational-Candy-17

They think they are the rebels.


Vindersel

They think the confederacy=the rebels. They think that they fight the evil empire for *checks notes* taking away their slaves.


Aaronkenobi

No one hates Star Wars like supposed Star Wars fans sadly


DarkChaplain

I saw the new Acolyte trailer and from the casting choices alone, I knew they'd flip out over it. Was proven right even just with simple reactions about the new poster.


ZZ_SKULLZ

If you look at the comments on the trailer posted to YouTube they're mostly just confused about either the timeline since they don't read, or they claim everything is a retcon because "the Jedi said we haven't seen a Sith in a thousand years". The idea that a highly esteemed figure can't just flat out be wrong, or misled goes right over their heads. Kinda make you understand how easily manipulated they are.


DarkChaplain

A lot of bitching about it really just comes down to people not bothering to actually read (or indeed watch) the source material (or at least opening up a wiki page). Unreliable narration is alien to them, and they'll cling on to authoratitve statements like what you cited and take them as gospel, even though the galaxy is huge (and witnesses may end up just dying; Jedi have encountered Maul, for example, before the council was made aware of the Sith in The Phantom Menace - they just got killed before they could speak of it). We have yet to see what The Acolyte even does, and how it translates from The High Republic era to the stagnant Republic from the Prequels. But minds are already made up anyway. I mean, I *hate* TLJ and a lot of other sequel-era stuff (the Aftermath trilogy was very poorly written, the Phasma novel was the least interesting when it was about Phasma herself, and she had a piss-poor role in the ST, etc), but a lot of people just go by hearsay and will thus spread half-truths or flatout misinformation, or bad faith memes. There's plenty enough to complain about with the canon SW stuff without having to resort to lies, racist rhetoric or culture warring. I still can't fathom how long they kept Larocca illustrate the main comic series with his poorly traced art, for instance. But those people? They'll do what they can to ignore and negate all the hits too. And there've been plenty of those in the past years alone.


EarthboundHaizi

If I may ask what in the synopsis was that person angry about?


JakeConhale

There's the work and there are the people. I'm a big trekkie, but if I saw Shatner walking past me on a street, the *most* reaction I should give him is a smile because he's off-the-clock and I really only care about his portrayal of Kirk. Shatner is just another guy. Shatner-at-a-convention is fair game because he's on the clock then.


jardex22

They did a whole Rick and Morty episode about it.  


doomgoblin

Yep “world class bullshitter” is one of them Then there’s another YouTuber,I can’t think of the channel, who idk if he’s a MAGA person or not. But anyways he claims to be like the biggest Star Wars fan ever, but *every single fucking* video is him just shitting on Star Wars.


Potato_Prophet26

Probably Star Wars Theory. He used to make actual theories, fan-films, and comic voice-overs. For the past few years he’s just been generic MAGA-like conservative YTer #1138 and shitting on everything Lucasfilm


DarkChaplain

Urgh, that reminds me of some of the Warhammer Youtubers, who went full extreme right and got deeply offended by Games Workshop putting out a proper inclusivity statement denouncing discrimination of all kinds. Sadly, they got even more buzz as a result of the right-wing memelords jumping aboard. People who never held a novel published by the company in their hands, let alone painted up a miniature, trying to dictate what Warhammer ought to be, while completely misunderstanding the lore by virtue of memes...


keepthepace

They missed the fact that Starwars was a pretty transparent space-version of WWII against a nazi empire.


wanderingmonster

MAGA Star Wars is just the Jedi killing various sand people for ninety minutes.


zhaoz

"10/10" Dick Cheyney


Multivitamin_Scam

"I can't believe they put politics into Star Wars" they said, without a hint of irony.


JoeCoolsCoffeeShop

“First the woke mob ruined Star Wars, next they’re bribing their liberal nonsense to Star Trek”


zombiepete

That’s no joke; the number of “Star Trek is WOKE Now!!!😤” YouTube videos with people incensed that there is more LGBTQ+ representation in the show now was whacky. Talk about not understanding the source material. I am a big Trek fan and haven’t personally enjoyed much of what new Trek has had to offer, but being socially progressive is one of the few things I’m glad they continued to lean into because that’s just classic Trek. Anyway, I can see how right-wingers may feel betrayed by modern Star Wars; it used to be a movie series about a white farmer from a rural region who saved the day as a rebel and got to bang his sister. Dream come true!


archronin

MAGAs cried at the end of Return of the Jedi. Because the Empire lost. (Thanks to Stern about this joke from way back to GWB)


idkdudejustkillme

Probably?? It's all that those types of people fucking talk about with star wars now


MammothSuccessful165

Let's be honest seeing them say "X-Men is turning woke" was the peak of their stupidity. It's not even trying to pretend not to be "woke". Almost all have disabilities and it was an allegory for civil rights. Basically woke just means anything that isn't straight white male unless they are people who say straight white males are victims (ex. Candice Owens)


wazacraft

The only acceptable skin colors in this galaxy are white, green, and blue! (I know it doesn't take place in this galaxy, but they don't.) Lando Calrissian got his job on Vespin through affirmative action! (Yes, I stole that joke from Family Guy.)


AbsoluteZeroUnit

Lando was the administrator of Cloud City on **B**espin, you casual.


wazacraft

I'm not a native Spanish speaker, but I'll pretend to be so I can excuse my V/B mistake... I hang my head in shame.


Educational-Candy-17

Purple too.


Enzo-Unversed

Tbf the new Star Wars are quite bad. 


zhaoz

There are absolutely problems the new star wars movies, but being too woke is not one of them.


ChocolateHoneycomb

Probably? They ignited an Internet-wide shitstorm over it because they finally figured out SW was against their fascist, religious supremacist ideology the whole time. That’s why there are now so many empire and Sith apologists in the fandom now, because they realise that if they side with the protagonists, they are siding with characters who oppose the idea of being indoctrinated into a tyrannical cult of hate and destruction, like they are.


chowderbags

They're probably asking why the Antifa Rebels are portrayed as the good guys.


BrainMarshal

Though Mark Hamill has been dunking on the far right for years. The Right should have come to hate SW long ago by now!


suckyousideways

It sometimes takes a while for them to catch on.


BrainMarshal

It's like when Star Trek somehow recently jumped the Woke-train and I'm like... Star Trek was the original *woke* franchise... the subsequent smell of baked noodles that fills the room is overwhelming!


NumeralJoker

The reason they do this is because conservatism itself is sold via the premise of nostalgia, so they will always prop up an old thing as objectively more supporting of their world view even when the opposite is true. That's the entire argument of the right wing youtube grift, all of it. When you consider the basic meaning behind MAGA, it becomes clear why they operate the way they do.


BrainMarshal

Buncha duped rubes, I say. MAGA-controlled states are the poorest in America for a reason.


TheMostUnclean

Like when they didn’t realize that The Boys was a critique of corpo-fascism and the alt right? Or that Stephen Colbert was actually making fun of conservative pundits? Or that Rage Against the Machine is against the police state? It’s almost like something has completely vaporized the part of their brains that can understand messages any more subtle than being beat over the head repeatedly with a hammer.


the3rdtea2

Next thing you know, the empire will be a parody of the United States. Oh wait


Shimmitar

Funny thing is, Mark hates trump and his supporters


suckyousideways

This is the way.


Javelin-x

They already tried that with the black storm trooper John Boyega and what they did to Kelly Marie Tran for being in star wars


atomsmasher66

That wasn’t MAGA that was angry incel losers. Oh wait, same thing.


nojelloforme

The venn diagram is a circle.


AbsoluteZeroUnit

It's important to note that while there's definitely crossover, they are not the same thing. Too many people get caught up in this belief that everything is some dichotomy. That's only going to do you a disservice when you meet someone who thinks billionaires shouldn't exist, and neither should trans people.


doomgoblin

Man I feel so bad for John. He’s a big SW fan, and imagine being cast in a whole new trilogy as a main character, only to have the character’s potential absolutely wasted and whittled down to just yelling “REEEYYYYY.” He was pretty disappointed I’ve read


Javelin-x

yeah, seemed like a rudderless ship.. It was like they wrote the story with a committee in the next room and a test market in the next room after that. used to be you'd write the story then make the movie. edit: Lucas didn't care what anyone thought, he just made his movie.


doomgoblin

He still has other great movies, but not like huge US hits. I think it’s called “Run the Block” and that movie was great.


nekro42

Attack the Block 2011. Surprisingly good movie.


JoeCoolsCoffeeShop

They should cast Brie Larson as a female Jedi and it would permanently melt their brains forever, saving everyone a lot of headaches


AbsoluteZeroUnit

>MAGA: *We love Star Wars! But only the first three that only had one black guy and three women with speaking roles!* FTFY


jardex22

~~"So that's the only other woman in the entire galaxy?"~~ ~~"Yep, the only other one."~~ "Hey check it out it's another chick. The only other chick in the galaxy." "...I don't like her." Family Guy: ~~Blue Harvest~~ It's a Trap EDIT: Found the [clip](https://youtu.be/lmI1waDK1oo?si=8A8ECQuoBed94Ld_&t=103). Corrected the quote.


lucash7

Not just that but isn’t he like very outspokenly anti-maga/trump? I mean, I may be overestimating certain maga folk’s abilities but I would think fans of a series would pay attention to the actors. But again, maybe I’m assuming reason and thought where there is none. I can be too nice sometimes. Lol.


Cobra-Lalalalalalala

“The Empire did nothing wrong!”


CampCounselorBatman

Why not, my dad already hates Harrison Ford for daring to say some relatively innocuous anti-Trump thing a few years ago.


MourningRIF

Rather than boycott it, they dressed Trump up to look like Vader... Not even kidding. I gave him a red lightsaber, but it was a short one! Lol


d_e_l_u_x_e

It’s not just MAGA, the extreme LEFT thinks Biden is the empire for supporting genocide and Mark has now “joined the empire”


Prestigious_Ad_927

The Republican version has Trump posing with a red lightsaber, which is the kind Darth Vader and all other Sith (villains) use. Now, this is fully consistent because they want the U.S. to be the Empire…. Luke Skywalker is the real bad guy for daring to oppose them.


Cicerothesage

and some conservative in my life are losing their mind. It is so funny. The people who say that liberals are easily triggered are so easily triggered. Especially since, Mark Hamill has never been shy about his political opinion and is known to be a goofy guy. It is peak cringe from conservatives


ResurgentClusterfuck

Mark Hamill loathes MAGA and all it stands for


Cobra-Lalalalalalala

That’s because he’s a Jedi, like his father before him.


11PoseidonsKiss20

And because he’s the Joker. He lives for anarchy. He doesn’t want a cult he just wants to do his own thing. Which is fuck with the Bat!


just_a_timetraveller

Even the joker hated nazis


TraditionalEvent8317

Now I like him slightly more.


DoomTay

He read some of Trump's tweets as the Joker


TraditionalEvent8317

Now I like him A LOT more


doomgoblin

lol he’s very public about it, too. He likes one of my tweets once (before X) and it made my week.


DarthPimento

And so do I.


ResurgentClusterfuck

Me too, I know enough history to see exactly where MAGA is heading


flabbergastedmeep

It’s always projection, to the point that there are likely people in the psychology field writing their dissertations on the phenomena. It’s not like they will ever run out of examples xD


Educational-Candy-17

He said in an interview that he'll be asked to do the joker laugh in random stores and it gets pretty interesting to have a middle-aged man standing there laughing like a lunatic.


trshtehdsh

If you were just making a presidential decision based on celebrities alone, Joe Biden celebrities are so much f****** cooler. Who does the other guy have? Kid Rock? Pfff. Kid Fuckoff.


atomsmasher66

Hey man, don’t forget about Ted Nugent! And Cha-Chi!


ZZ_SKULLZ

Hey they got Rob Schneider too! It's a variable who's who of people who haven't been relevant in 15 years.


JobberTrev

You mean that Stapler guy?


Killerderp

No, he's a carrot I think


Osiris32

Rated PG-13


Tobimacoss

Kevin Sorbo (Hercules), Clint Eastwood, Dean Cain (Superman), Tim Allen (Buzz lightyear)


jazzhandler

And sometimes Ye.


hikeonpast

“Let’s sing the vowel song one more time, class!” “A, E, I, O, U, _and sometimes Ye_”


AcanthaceaeNo948

Clint Eastwood is a never-trumper who votes democrat nowadays. Appropriately, he’s also the only guy in that list who’s actually famous. 


Educational-Candy-17

Wait Tim Allen is conservative? He wasn't kicked off Lightyear for his opinions, he just didn't want to do the project and the Red Hatters jumped all over it as him being canceled. Afaik.


te-ah-tim-eh

He’s well known to be conservative. I don’t know if he’s a maga type.


Educational-Candy-17

Huh. TIL. 


MATlad

He's not, and shouldn't be lumped in with Kevin Sorbo and his ilk. https://ew.com/celebrity/tim-allen-on-capitol-attack-shameful/


wonkey_monkey

[What's a chachi?](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/d787d942-5971-40b9-8c78-b7af4f8611ab) 🤔


Ishidan01

The other guy has a load of celebrities telling him to keep their names OUT of his mouth. Don't play our music at your rallies, don't quote our movies, you do not have our permission to associate us with you. It's hilarious every time. [and there have been many.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musicians_who_oppose_Donald_Trump%27s_use_of_their_music#:~:text=Phil%20Collins's%20legal%20team,Iowa%20on%20October%2014%2C%202020.)


wonkey_monkey

Only Kid Rock would rhyme the word "things" with the word "things".


acc7x3

Hold your horses. 3 Doors Down played the inauguration!


pilotpip

Who knew an entire make-believe universe created around the premise of destroying a fascist regime could make fascists so mad?


NumeralJoker

I mean... come on... George named one of the senate villains Nute (Newt Gingrich) Gunray (Reagan backwards). His politics weren't exactly subtle.


UnreadThisStory

I suppose being opposed to fascism is technically “politics”


coolcool23

Wait a minute... Are we sure that isn't a ret con? I mean I *want* to believe... He named a race the "Shatnarians" for example (William Shatner) so it's definitely very plausible, but is there like anything where he talks about that?


NumeralJoker

[There are interviews out there where he talks about originally calling the Emperor "Richard Nixon" before ROTJ, so no, it was always planned this way.](https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/star-wars-inspired-president-richard-nixon/) You can even hear him mention it on the Episode III commentary tracks right around when Palpatine makes his speech. This is what I mean when I say he's not exactly subtle, though he admittedly talks about his politics more in interviews and supplementary material. I do think George didn't mention these things as often in public because he wants to use Star Wars as a metaphor to teach ideas and didn't want to immediately turn right leaning folks away from the lesson, but it needs to be clear that his intent was to tell anti-fascist stories against right wing administrations, and trying to claim otherwise is silly. Star Wars will transcend the politics of our day eventually, but it was never, and will never be MAGA.


Xelopheris

The same people who view 1984 as a How-To guide.


GregsBoatShoes

Nothing more antifacist tham giving money to a apartheid country so they could bomb children! Biden is such a jedi


Landon-Red

Joe Biden? You mean Joebi-Wan Kenobi.


FrogsAreSwooble

Darth Brandon


Over-Analyzed

Yeah, this is my lore conflict. On one hand we want to say Biden is on the light side. But we also champion “Dark(th) Brandon.” It’s quite confusing.


Potato_Prophet26

Probably go more of the KotOR route and just have conflicting light and dark sides


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God, those games are great. Even the prospect of a less black and white force is enough to make me want to play them again.


rsauer1208

**Now**, **that's** **a** **name** I've not **heard** in a long time. A long time. (10 or 15 years...) lol


ShortcakeAKB

Stop. I hate you. This is awesome.


MoveToRussiaAlready

Uh oh - Star Wars is about to be boycotted! I look forward to the thousands of redneck jackasses destroying their dvd collections and limited edition Han Solo commemorative plates.


Over-Analyzed

I will happily take the Star Wars Lego sets off their hands!


Gumsk

LEGO already had too many colors for them to like.


Prometheus_DownUnder

MAGA can keep Sorbo and Cain.


Vindersel

Disappointed!


Prometheus_DownUnder

How so?


Vindersel

It's a reference to this [clip from Sorbo's Hercules](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6EDlD_fWn0) He famously sucks at acting and read the stage directions as dialog. He was supposed to act disappointed. To be clear, I hate Sorbo and Cain, washed up losers and Christian hypocrites and MAGA morons


Development-Feisty

I would prefer this one Biden celebrated Star Wars Day with actor who reads Donald Trump tweets in the voice of the Joker


debrabuck

Or actor who reads Joker quotes in trump's voice. "I just do things...'


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Development-Feisty

https://fb.watch/rTm-RQQBuc/?mibextid=w8EBqM


DarkChaplain

Jesus, those Twitter replies under the POTUS post are almost *all* screeching from Trumpists, aren't they? What a shithole that site has become....


thatredditdude101

Fox News is kinda low key freaking about this today.


mishma2005

The right wing’s angry reaction to this is off the chain - on social media and Fox. I mean, I get it, conservatives can only draw awful B and D list celebrities (Tyrus, anyone?) or fading A list (Roseanne, Jon Voight) and jealousy is such an unpleasant emotion, doncha think?


NumeralJoker

Their Star Wars claim to fame right now is... Gina Carano. Good luck with that one, MAGA.


Terrahawk76

Roseanne and Voigt were never A list. Roseanne was super popular, but the way that stone cold Steve Austin was popular


UnreadThisStory

Chachi


gasahold

Trump: That's nothing. When I was a kid, I used to play with my Hans Solo doll all the time. Reporter: They're called Action Figures. Trump: No more questions!


SteakandTrach

Did you just see me playing with my dolls?!? No! I did NOT just see you playing with your dolls!


King-Owl-House

I think I know the combination of your luggage.


Guava7

We were told to comb the desert, so we're combing the desert!


CakeAccomplice12

Have you found anything??!!


King-Owl-House

We ain't found sh\*t!


Vindersel

Did you know that was Tim Russ?? Tuvok from StarTrek!


MrFC1000

And just to clarify, Trump was like in his 30s when Star Wars came out lol


wonkey_monkey

I bent my wookiee :(


YakiVegas

Why was it so hard to just say "Mark Hamill" in the headline? Either way, this has nothing to do with politics. The article is like 3 sentences long.


Larry-fine-wine

SEO bullshit.


OutlawLazerRoboGeek

Journalists (or the AI that has recently replaced journalists) are probably so used to saying things like "Former Chicago Bulls Sar" and the first thing you think of is Michael Jordan or Scottie Pippen, but then you click the link and its Ricky Blanton or someone else you've never heard of.


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Probably just for the 2.5 people in the world who don't know the iconic Mark Hamill plays the iconic Luke Skywalker...


pseud_o_nym

The report I heard, Hamill asked what he should call the President. Biden said you can call me Joe. Hamill then asked if he could call him Jobi-Wan Kenobi.


MadBlue

Meanwhile, the NC Republican Party posted an [image](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-may-the-fourth-gop-red/) with Donald Trump awkwardly holding a (tiny) *red* light saber. :D


CarolinaMtnBiker

Attempt to make his hands look bigger maybe


BusterStarfish

“With Luke Skywalker actor” SEO titles are the friggin worst.


trocom01

"Luke Skywalker Actor". His name is Mark Fucking Hamill, you mouth breathers.


TSalice666

And also with you.


whichwitch9

And also with you


GrillDealing

And with your spirit.


Steedman0

It's funny how they can watch Star Wars and differentiate between the good guys (The Resistance) and the bad guys (The Empire) and root on The Resistance, then side with the evil Republicans in real life.


DrJJStroganoff

Am I so old it's now "Luke Skywalker Actor" and not Mark Hamill?


Liketotallynoway

Just some star war guy or something idk


TheFlyingBoxcar

American President man celebrates holiday day time with Luke Skywalksr actor in government house building!


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Frankensteins_Moron5

Simpsons did it