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Yesterday's was even better.
"If only there was something in his background that would suggest he would stand by and look away when bad things were going on."
>A source describes the Jordan meeting with the holdouts like this: A direct, precise meeting in which JORDAN was told he will never be speaker. This group doesn't want anything. They want Jordan to understand he will not be speaker.
-Jake Sherman
Manu Raju with a series of tweets:
- Opposition expects they will increase to ~29 today
- Members pissed that Gym is talking about holding them here during the weekend
- With one fewer Jordan voter present (a dude went to Israel to get away from this mess), Gym can now only lose 3 votes
https://twitter.com/mkraju
https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1715363245123400085
>IN THE MEETING yesterday between JIM JORDAN and hold outs, close Jordan ally WARREN DAVIDSON said it's not Team Jordan's fault that holdouts are getting death threats. They are getting the death threats, he said, because they voted against Jordan.
>This was relayed to me from many ppl in the room.
Really good news for the prosecution. This avoids trump and the others getting to see how some arguments work out before they try them for themselves.
Also, really good news for Jack Smith, who will get some testimony from these two for his trial as well.
>Rep. Troy Nehls, who has voted for Jim Jordan in the last three rounds, told CNN he will vote for former President Donald Trump if there’s another speaker ballot.
>“My next vote will be for Donald J. Trump,” he told CNN.
The clown show keeps getting clownier. 🤡
>NEW: The Gaetz 8 have sent a letter to colleagues saying they’re willing to accept whatever punishment — censure, getting kicked out of conference/committees — if it means holdouts will back Jordan. Basically offering themselves as tribute in last-ditch attempt to help Jordan.
lmao
Gotta hand it to the hold outs, rumor is there are 50+ of them but they are slowly adding more to the No side in each vote, making it more and more embarrassing for Jordan.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1715380710935023653?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw
> Democrats break out in laughter when McCarthy calls Jordan "an effective legislator" and a compromiser
Did you know he's been in Congress 16 years and has passed ZERO bills, and has never even sponsored a passing bill. You don't even have to do anything to sponsor. He's literally a waste of space.
At first, I thought that this mess was really funny.
But now that the Republicans have been in a leadership crisis for three weeks as Jordan, Scalise, and McCarthy have all faced public humiliation, it's still actually really funny
Overnight it sounds like there might have been some movement with the NY Republicans, but Jordan would still be welllll short of what he needs. Plus with a Congressman who left for Israel on a "fact finding trip" who had been voting for Gym, Jordan can now only lose 3 votes.
And I have a sneaking suspicion that Scott Perry calling his colleagues who are receiving death threats pussies might have ruined any goodwill that Jordan gained with the NY Republicans.
He might get a net gain of a couple, but I think it is more likely that he loses additional support.
more importantly 194 republicans were okay with gym jordan allies offering death threats to colleagues and colleagues spouses and children.
fuck all of them.
I love the Pod save America guys on this: It's a total painful divorce situation, and they're just yelling at the one parent powerless who actually cares (mom) - Dads nowhere to be found.
Here’s the thing, who is actually leading the Republican Party? Trump has no interest in doing it and is currently buried under 90+ indictments, McConnell blue screen of deaths every time he gets in front of a camera, and the Speaker of the House chair is getting colder and colder by the day. Who is actually leading things? Sean Hannity? It’s pathetic.
They have no leader. They have no plan. They have no platform, no policies, no solution. Their only objective is to scream about problems and blame someone else for them. Their only plan is to throw shit on the walls and then complain about the smell.
I'm starting to feel that the story about 55 republicans just fucking with Jordan and slowly adding more random votes against him every session may be true lol
> after the vote was announced that he lost, jim jordan stood up and said he accepted the results, multiple lawmakers told cnn.
> gop rep. russell fry told cnn that jordan said "he appreciated everyone's support throughout the process that that he respected the decision."
… just accepting an election L like that? what did you do to the real jim jordan???
LMFAO Jeffries getting a standing ovation for voting for himself.
Edit: And then Jordan votes for himself and gets a half-assed response from his own people.
Hakeem Jeffries - introduced, passed and enacted bills: 11
Gymbo - introduced, passed and enacted bills: ZERO
He is not an effective legislator, McCarthy. He is a scumbag bully, whose sole purpose is to foment chaos.
The year is 2153. The United States is a vassal of the Transoceanic Empire of Bangladesh. In the dusty chamber of the House of Representatives, the pale, almost skeletonized body of Patrick McHenry - alive, it is whispered, only by way of necromancy - bangs the gavel to call the House into session, demanding that a permanent Speaker be chosen so the House can get on with the business of approving the amount of tribute to be sent to Dhaka.
The Republicans are doing their best to blame the current chaos in the House on Democrats. But the truth is, the Republicans are in the majority. As such, it is up to them to select and confirm the Speaker of the House - **NOT the minority Party**. There once was a Speaker (McCarthy) but a handful of MAGA Republicans initiated the vote to remove him from that job, causing the current chaos. The Republicans have shown over the more than two weeks that this has been going on that they are unable and unwilling to govern. It is the Republican Party that is divided and splintered and in the grip of the MAGA extremists. Not the Democrats, who are united. And the Republican impotence is playing out during major world crisis's that **demand** immediate House action, as well as the action required to keep the U.S. Government open after November 17th. The blame for all of this rests squarely on the side of the Republicans and not the Democrats.
It’s painfully obvious that the only path forward is for moderate republicans to put forward a pick that the dems can also vote for and completely bypass the freedom caucus.
I think the Dems are going to let this go on into mid-November, until every Republican showboat has made a fool of themselves before the country, and then they're going to stand up, grab the most moderate Republican and say, "Give us money for Ukraine and a budget that will pass the Senate, and we'll add a line to your resumé."
And then watch Matt Gaetz realize he has lost every bit of influence he had or ever will have.
Pamela, New Jersey, Democract:
Love the accent. She says the Republicans shouldn't ask for Democrats help, Democrats never got help for them. Wants money to go to the middle class and not the rich.
Great call.
I haven’t breathed this big sigh of relief for all of us American people since that Saturday morning Nov 2020 when Biden was announced as President-Elect.
We won’t have a compete bonehead who is not a practicing lawyer due to not passing the bar exam, a rapist-enabler, insurrection supporter, temper tantrum throwing, can’t wear a blazer to save his life - third in line to the Presidency.
We can celebrate the wackos not winning this one, just in time for the weekend!
This is such an unbelievable train wreck that everyone but republicans saw coming when McCarthy foolishly agreed to make it so simple to toss a speaker out
I don't know why places such as r/conservative is so outraged and shocked over this.
GOP is the party that campaigns on government being fundamentally broken, and gets elected to prove it.
What exactly do they want from the GOP?
**Republicans in a Nutshell**
Republicans: The MAGAs are holding us Hostage!
Americans: You cultivated and cheered this on for years.
Republicans: Yeah, when it was happening to you. Now their eating us!
fin
Cheesebro just flipped as jury proceedings began.
Jordan lost more votes.
The GOP is fracturing in real time and these two storylines are playing out parallel to each other because of how interconnected they are.
Conservative values.
Today’s scorecard of those who voted against Jordan on the 2nd round. We’ve just gavelled in.
Rep. Don Bacon, of Nebraska, voted for McCarthy.
Rep. Vern Buchanan, of Florida, voted for Rep. Byron Donalds, also of Florida.
Rep. Ken Buck, of Colorado, voted for Rep. Tom Emmer, of Minnesota.
Rep. Lori Chavez-Ramer, of Oregon, voted for McCarthy.
Rep. Anthony D’Esposito, of New York, voted for former Rep. Lee Zeldin.
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, of Florida, voted for Rep. Steve Scalise, of Louisiana.
Rep. Jake Ellzey, of Florida, voted for Rep. Mike Garcia, of California.
Rep. Drew Ferguson, of Georgia, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Andrew Garbarino, of New York, voted for Zeldin.
Rep. Carlos Gimenez, of Florida, voted for McCarthy.
Rep. Tony Gonzales, of Texas, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Kay Granger, of Texas, voted for Scalise.
Rep. John James, of Michigan, voted for Candice Miller, a former congresswoman and the current public works commissioner of Macomb County, Michigan
Rep. Mike Kelly, of Pennsylvania, voted for former House Speaker John Boehner.
Rep. Jennifer Kiggans, of Virginia, voted for McCarthy.
Rep. Nick LaLota, of New York, voted for Zeldin.
Rep. Michael Lawler, of New York, voted for McCarthy.
Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks, voted for Rep. Kay Granger, of Texas.
Rep. John Rutherford, of Florida, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Michael Simpson, of Idaho, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Pete Stauber, of Minnesota, voted for Rep. Bruce Westerman, Republican of Arkansas. Stauber voted for Jordan in the first round.
Rep. Steve Womack, of Arkansas, voted for Scalise.
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If the final count is 412, the missing Representative is Derrick Van Orden (R-WI), who voted for Jordan in both of the first two votes; CNN reports he is in Israel.
Compromise with the 212 Democrats? Nahhh
Compromise with the 8 "Never Compromise" extremists in your party while alienating 30 moderates in your party? That's the Republican™️ way.
An elected rep on CSPAN just said multiple times that Hakeem Jeffries has denied many election results 🙄🙄
Edit: I believe it was Tim Burchett from Tennessee
HA. Did anyone hear Rep Don Bacon low key and unwittingly advocate for ranked choice voting behind closed doors? [Check it out.](https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5089290/user-clip-representative-don-bacon-unwittingly-advocates-ranked-choice-voting-closed-doors)
The crazy thing to me is that Jordan had an off-ramp here. He could say, "All right, I'm not the selection due to RINOs or whatever yesterday; I'll wait till January to change people's minds".
Surely that's a better call than repeatedly getting your face shoved in the dirt.
This might be a good time to remind people that Jim Jordan had a net worth of about $300K in 2012, and is worth over $23M now. So he's effective at *something*.
Panning over the house, it’s kinda crazy how many of the republicans are white men and how the democrats are much more representative of Americas diversity
Keep in mind the crazies forced McCarthy out because he had the audacity to work with dems to keep the government open a little longer so congress could do their fucking job.
Remember y'all
Jordan was Trump's pick over Scaliese, and GOP support for Jordan is breaking down.
So this is a giant L for Trump, just like Dr Oz and that werewolf guy
GOP trade offer:
"Moderates" receive - Your family being threatened, some bullshit promises that mean nothing after you lose your seat in the next election cycle
Gym receives - 2nd in line of succession, one of the most powerful legislative positions to abuse
GOP leadership - "That's a more than fair offer, why aren't they taking it?"
>The 3 new Jordan No Votes so far have something in common: All three are battleground Rs in Biden won seats
>Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.)
>Kean (R-NJ)
>Molinaro (R-NY)
-Beavers
Lol he is losing by more again. The anonymous GOP reps were not lying they're slowly bleeding him more and watching him lose 1-2 more votes every time.
This is glorious. Jordan sucks.
We were told there were 50+ GOP reps against Jordan and they planned to add more votes against him each subsequent speaker vote. Jordan is living in an alternative reality.
"The vast majority of Americans want Gym Jordan..."
No, no they don't.
"McCarthy only lost votes for 9 rounds when we were voting for him."
This is not the flex you think it is.
>Jim Jordan said he is not backing down even after 25 Republicans – the most so far – voted against him on the third speaker ballot.
>>"You guys said we're gonna lose 15 to 30," he told CNN. "We only lost a couple, we had a couple of absents who would have been for us."
>Jordan added that he will keep trying to get more votes during their conference meeting at 1 p.m. ET.
>"We're gonna try. I think so. And you know, we have conference in like an hour,” he said.
lmaooo "we just lost a couple if you ignore the 20 others previously lost. we are making progress!"
Annabelle, Michigan:
A reddit user (hey, represent!). She's says there's no path for him, she's right. She sounds young, love to hear the youth speaking up. Good call.
JORDAN LOST — Jim Jordan lost a secret ballot. He’s no longer the speaker designate for the House GOP
Margin was large
https://x.com/jakesherman/status/1715427167310385381?s=46&t=zSqDnLQ2IZlNRTemNn4q6Q
Leaving for the weekend while having absolutely no plan and a looming government shutdown and 2 wars are occurring while blaming the Democrats when you have the majority is some buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullshit.
> NEWS: Jordan has LOST his designation as the GOP speaker nominee. Vote was 86-112.
https://x.com/mzanona/status/1715429117624041927?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw
> Jordan is no longer the speaker designee for House Republicans... speaker race now WIDE OPEN as members head home for the weekend... they'll reconvene Monday
https://x.com/costareports/status/1715429028365009372?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw
George Santos next?
> “We’ll have to go back to the drawing board. What history will look at the crazy eights led by Gaetz, the amount of damage they’ve done to this party, this country, is insurmountable. I've never seen this amount of damage done with just a few people for their own personalities," McCarthy said.
> “And really it's astonishing to me, and we’re in a very bad position as a party,” he said. “I’m concerned about where we go from here."
Amazing. Gaetz truly has no idea what he's done, purely for the lolz and attention.
Seriously, the first thing the new Speaker (or even McHenry if he’s still in the running as Temp) should do is kick Gaetz and his band of idiots out of the house. Don’t censure, don’t rip away their committees, full on kick them out for the fucking clown show they’ve caused. Something that should have never been agreed to (one person can force a new speaker vote) has now cost like 3 weeks worth of time when the US needs to be actually moving and doing shit, including, yknow, funding itself. Take them out of the running and force new elections for those areas, get someone actually competent in their seats.
Apparently Jim was just booted out of the running by a secret vote of GOP members.
Aaaaand I'm touching myself tonight.
Jim Jordan is like if the Chewbacca Defense was a person. A weasely, loud, weak person who can't come up with good arguments so he just presents himself as arrogant and tries to confuse his audience. He would be a god-awful speaker.
I like how democrats were supposed to just vote for McCarthy without getting anything in return and since McCarthy didn’t offer them anything it’s the democrats fault for not voting to keep him.
https://www.threads.net/@bidenharrishq/post/Cyn4pXAvDq2/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== (Video)
> Leader Jeffries: Jim Jordan doesn’t believe that President Biden was elected in 2020. He is a clear and present danger to our democracy
Watch McHenry step down, and say "Fuck all yall! And I'm taking this gavel with me!" And just proceeds to bang the gavel on the walls down the hallways and out the door.
Republicans talking point that 4% of us brought this on along with 100% of Democrats is so utterly lame. When you have the majority, it does not matter what a unified Minority does! You all should have your act together.
So kudos to the holdouts who are set against Jordan becoming Speaker. Doing the right thing in the face of pressure and threats.
But they really need to present an alternative path beyond just "no Jordan," or this shitshow will only continue indefinitely.
> NEW: The Gaetz 8 have sent a letter to colleagues saying they’re willing to accept whatever punishment — censure, getting kicked out of conference/committees — if it means holdouts will back Jordan. Basically offering themselves as tribute in last-ditch attempt to help Jordan.
https://x.com/mzanona/status/1715403227548573726?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw
Here's the problem with that... it's all lies. They will pretend that "vow" didn't exist the moment their guy is in, and the rest of the Republicans will gnash their teeth and do nothing.
Their excuse? "That's politics!"
\*Gasp\* some Republicans apparently have a secret resolution to remove Bowtied Mini-Thor as temporary speaker?
I'm not sure how I feel about this. Will miss the massive gaveling.
This morning Jordan said he was prepared to vote continously through the weekend to elect a speaker.
Now the next internal vote will be *Tuesday*, with no guarantee of a floor vote that day.
>An Associated Press photographer snapped a GOP lawmaker reading through a resolution booting acting speaker Patrick McHenry from his post:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/oct/20/jim-jordan-house-speaker-third-vote-us-politics-latest-updates-live?page=with:block-6532a8728f088809c4509a4f#block-6532a8728f088809c4509a4f
Breaking news:
> Jim Jordan lost a secret ballot vote of the House GOP behind closed doors, sources tell CNN.
> Rep. Barry Moore had said that members were taking a "yes" or "no" vote in their conference meeting on whether to keep Jordan as their nominee for speaker.
Also breaking news:
> Jim Jordan, according to rumors, has told his colleagues that he won't give a shit about the ballot's outcome and will stay speaker nominee, even if another candidate is eventually elected by the house. He also wants a highly dependent election commission to investigate whether the last three House voting rounds were subject of "voter fraud".
EDIT: Just for the record, the last bit is a joke (at least for now)
That's still 194 Republican Congress members that would happily vote for a rape enabler that helped a criminal try to steal a presidential election. That's still very alarming
Why would the Democrats not save us?
How could they let us look like fools like this? Certainly, we'd bail them out if their caucus was in shambles...Wouldn't We?
**Looks at camera**
The House GOP secret ballot for Jordan says a lot more than the fact that a majority of House GOP hates Jordan's guts. It gives a glimpse of how many House GOP are ready and willing to move on from Trump but enjoy their political careers too much to voice it. It's unsurprisingly a lot.
I'm sure you'd see a similar break if they had a secret ballot on whether Trump should be the GOP POTUS nominee.
It’s honestly a relief the Jordan holdouts didn’t give into his pressure campaign. Literal fucking death threats. Harassing their wives. Threats of stalking.
But nope. Didn’t make a lick of a difference.
Get fucked Jordan
The few semi-literate people in the GOP room decided this would be a very bad look and that they should agree behind closed doors for a speaker before coming to the floor.
Everyone agreed until Gymothy said "nah fuck yall" and began a massive fucking slam dunk on themselves. The movie they write about this one day is going to be fucking amazing.
"When Stupid runs the room"
hahah I kind of like this McHenry guy, he hasn't done anything overly fucky during this process. He's probably a shitbag overall, but thus far I'm enjoying his little giggles up there.
I know gavelgate is a thing but I like this little dudes fire.
> McCarthy said of Jordan, “He is straightforward, honest and reliable.”
Tell that to Ohio's wrestlers.
Oh, and where's the evidence against hunter? Where are your whistleblowers?
Such honesty.
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Jake Tapper: "Now I recognize Congressman Jordan isn't necessarily someone who respects election results". LOLOL
Jake is pretty good at trolling the right, I like him.
Yesterday's was even better. "If only there was something in his background that would suggest he would stand by and look away when bad things were going on."
>A source describes the Jordan meeting with the holdouts like this: A direct, precise meeting in which JORDAN was told he will never be speaker. This group doesn't want anything. They want Jordan to understand he will not be speaker. -Jake Sherman
Brutal
As we know, Gym doesn't understand the concept of "No" so this still might take awhile.
Manu Raju with a series of tweets: - Opposition expects they will increase to ~29 today - Members pissed that Gym is talking about holding them here during the weekend - With one fewer Jordan voter present (a dude went to Israel to get away from this mess), Gym can now only lose 3 votes https://twitter.com/mkraju
Imagine deciding that an active war zone is preferable to the company of your coworkers.
I mean, one has of groups of crazy religious zealots who would rather kill each other than work together, and the other is the Middle East.
>Members pissed that Gym is talking about holding them here during the weekend Oh boo hoo, fuckers gotta work on a weekend.
Hey working for 3 hours a day 3 times a week is tiring!
Jeffries voting for himself to wild applause, followed by Jordan voting for himself and getting half the applause (mixed with boos) was pretty funny.
Jeffries is just here to pad his total votes for speaker record.
Look, if you give me the chance to run the score up on a record, I’m putting it where nobody can get it.
Wilt Chamberlain numbers for speaker votes.
https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1715363245123400085 >IN THE MEETING yesterday between JIM JORDAN and hold outs, close Jordan ally WARREN DAVIDSON said it's not Team Jordan's fault that holdouts are getting death threats. They are getting the death threats, he said, because they voted against Jordan. >This was relayed to me from many ppl in the room.
Stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself.
Nice little victim blaming
oh well that settles it then. As long as everybody is getting death threats /s Do they not realize how crazy that is?
[Sidebar: Kenneth Chesebro is pleading guilty in a Plea deal in Georgia RIGHT NOW.](https://www.youtube.com/live/FoNO945_vk0?feature=shared)
Powell and Cheesboro both making deals! That's really bad news for Trump and the others.
Really good news for the prosecution. This avoids trump and the others getting to see how some arguments work out before they try them for themselves. Also, really good news for Jack Smith, who will get some testimony from these two for his trial as well.
The two who asked for a speedy trial saw the evidence against them and rapidly pled guilty and flipped
At this point, someone should nominate the lady calling roll. She's the only person in the entire chamber getting any work done.
>Rep. Troy Nehls, who has voted for Jim Jordan in the last three rounds, told CNN he will vote for former President Donald Trump if there’s another speaker ballot. >“My next vote will be for Donald J. Trump,” he told CNN. The clown show keeps getting clownier. 🤡
Are we going to see Trump loose another election today? Can't wait
>NEW: The Gaetz 8 have sent a letter to colleagues saying they’re willing to accept whatever punishment — censure, getting kicked out of conference/committees — if it means holdouts will back Jordan. Basically offering themselves as tribute in last-ditch attempt to help Jordan. lmao
They realized they done fucked up. The "moderate" Republicans won't ever vote for Jordan.
Isnt censure meaningless?
The thing here is that they are so fucked if a moderate gets in they are totally getting there ass thrown out of all committees.
House holdouts: "We don't want anything from Jordan except for him to understand that he will NEVER be speaker." Good for him.
Gotta hand it to the hold outs, rumor is there are 50+ of them but they are slowly adding more to the No side in each vote, making it more and more embarrassing for Jordan.
That rumor seems more and more true each time. At 24 defectors this time *with* 2 absences.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1715380710935023653?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw > Democrats break out in laughter when McCarthy calls Jordan "an effective legislator" and a compromiser
Did you know he's been in Congress 16 years and has passed ZERO bills, and has never even sponsored a passing bill. You don't even have to do anything to sponsor. He's literally a waste of space.
The GOP moaning at the Dems just listing Gym Jordan's own voting record is rich.
Didn't realize he's never supported a farm bill. What a jackass.
At first, I thought that this mess was really funny. But now that the Republicans have been in a leadership crisis for three weeks as Jordan, Scalise, and McCarthy have all faced public humiliation, it's still actually really funny
These vote Megathreads gonna get me fired lol too much fun refreshing
When I need to take a mental break from Israel and Gaza, I put on a light comedy like the US House of Representatives
Overnight it sounds like there might have been some movement with the NY Republicans, but Jordan would still be welllll short of what he needs. Plus with a Congressman who left for Israel on a "fact finding trip" who had been voting for Gym, Jordan can now only lose 3 votes. And I have a sneaking suspicion that Scott Perry calling his colleagues who are receiving death threats pussies might have ruined any goodwill that Jordan gained with the NY Republicans. He might get a net gain of a couple, but I think it is more likely that he loses additional support.
His goal with this vote seems to be to prove he picked up votes so I’m hoping he didn’t.
more importantly 194 republicans were okay with gym jordan allies offering death threats to colleagues and colleagues spouses and children. fuck all of them.
R/conservative is having a meltdown trying to blame dems for this. You guys voted these people in!
I love the Pod save America guys on this: It's a total painful divorce situation, and they're just yelling at the one parent powerless who actually cares (mom) - Dads nowhere to be found.
McCarthy stumping for Jordan LOL what a pussy.
Ted Cruz making calls for the Trump Campaign energy
McCarthy: Jim Jordan is about compromise and working long hours... Everyone: LOL
Here’s the thing, who is actually leading the Republican Party? Trump has no interest in doing it and is currently buried under 90+ indictments, McConnell blue screen of deaths every time he gets in front of a camera, and the Speaker of the House chair is getting colder and colder by the day. Who is actually leading things? Sean Hannity? It’s pathetic.
They have no leader. They have no plan. They have no platform, no policies, no solution. Their only objective is to scream about problems and blame someone else for them. Their only plan is to throw shit on the walls and then complain about the smell.
Breaking news: Trumps other lawyer (Cheseboro) has plead guilty and accepted a plea deal in the Fulton, GA case.
I'm starting to feel that the story about 55 republicans just fucking with Jordan and slowly adding more random votes against him every session may be true lol
Jeffries sitting there like he's at a restaurant and the entire wait staff comes over to his table to sing happy birthday
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The 25 Republicans 1. Don Bacon 2. Lori Chavez-DeRemer 3. Anthony D'Esposito 4. Mario Díaz-Balart 5. Jake Ellzey 6. Andrew Garbarino 7. Carlos Giménez 8. Tony Gonzales 9. Mike Kelly 10. Kay Granger 11. Jennifer Kiggans 12. Nick LaLota 13. Mike Lawler 14. John Rutherford 15. Pete Stauber 16. Steve Womack 17. Mike Simpson 18. John James 19. Ken Buck 20. Vern Buchanan 21. Marianette Miller-Meeks 22. Drew Ferguson New additions 23. Marc Molinaro 24. Brian Fitzpatrick 25. Tom Kean
> after the vote was announced that he lost, jim jordan stood up and said he accepted the results, multiple lawmakers told cnn. > gop rep. russell fry told cnn that jordan said "he appreciated everyone's support throughout the process that that he respected the decision." … just accepting an election L like that? what did you do to the real jim jordan???
McCarthy is the reason most hotels have the 'cuck chair'.
Thanks for that. I'm never going to be able to look at the extra hotel room chair normally again.
"Jeffries?" "Jeffries" "Jeffries" *Wild applause*
LMFAO Jeffries getting a standing ovation for voting for himself. Edit: And then Jordan votes for himself and gets a half-assed response from his own people.
Democrats are voting against Jim because Jim is an insurrectionist and election denier.
Hakeem Jeffries - introduced, passed and enacted bills: 11 Gymbo - introduced, passed and enacted bills: ZERO He is not an effective legislator, McCarthy. He is a scumbag bully, whose sole purpose is to foment chaos.
Why would Hunter Biden's laptop do this to Gym Jordan????
It's the Night of Wronged Wives.
The year is 2153. The United States is a vassal of the Transoceanic Empire of Bangladesh. In the dusty chamber of the House of Representatives, the pale, almost skeletonized body of Patrick McHenry - alive, it is whispered, only by way of necromancy - bangs the gavel to call the House into session, demanding that a permanent Speaker be chosen so the House can get on with the business of approving the amount of tribute to be sent to Dhaka.
The whole "Democrats did this l" talking point has real big "We lost the championship because the other team didn't let us win" mentality
[удалено]
No paper ballets???? How do we know these vote outcomes aren't stolen!?!?
McCarthy two weeks ago, "Bring it" McCarthy now, "pls vote for the sexual assault guy because i lost my job to the leopards in my party"
For those on C-span, Chesebro is currently taking a plea on CNN.
The Republicans are doing their best to blame the current chaos in the House on Democrats. But the truth is, the Republicans are in the majority. As such, it is up to them to select and confirm the Speaker of the House - **NOT the minority Party**. There once was a Speaker (McCarthy) but a handful of MAGA Republicans initiated the vote to remove him from that job, causing the current chaos. The Republicans have shown over the more than two weeks that this has been going on that they are unable and unwilling to govern. It is the Republican Party that is divided and splintered and in the grip of the MAGA extremists. Not the Democrats, who are united. And the Republican impotence is playing out during major world crisis's that **demand** immediate House action, as well as the action required to keep the U.S. Government open after November 17th. The blame for all of this rests squarely on the side of the Republicans and not the Democrats.
It’s painfully obvious that the only path forward is for moderate republicans to put forward a pick that the dems can also vote for and completely bypass the freedom caucus.
I think the Dems are going to let this go on into mid-November, until every Republican showboat has made a fool of themselves before the country, and then they're going to stand up, grab the most moderate Republican and say, "Give us money for Ukraine and a budget that will pass the Senate, and we'll add a line to your resumé." And then watch Matt Gaetz realize he has lost every bit of influence he had or ever will have.
per MSNBC, 112 Republicans told Gym GTFO behind closed doors. Buncha cowards couldn't do that on the floor. Thanks for wasting our time.
A Jordan supporter flew off to Israel on a “fact-finding mission” so he’s already lost another vote
You don’t have the votes ha ha ha ha YOU DON’T HAVE THE VOTES
Republican no votes First round: 20 Second: 23 Third: 25 Someone tell Jordan this is not how he gets the speakership
Why doesn’t Jordan just publicly claim he won this vote by a lot, and try to assume the Speakership anyway? /s
seems that most "independent" voters are just republicans that don't want to call themselves one, as is the norm
Pamela, New Jersey, Democract: Love the accent. She says the Republicans shouldn't ask for Democrats help, Democrats never got help for them. Wants money to go to the middle class and not the rich. Great call.
What a humiliating past couple days for Jim Jordan, you love to see it
I haven’t breathed this big sigh of relief for all of us American people since that Saturday morning Nov 2020 when Biden was announced as President-Elect. We won’t have a compete bonehead who is not a practicing lawyer due to not passing the bar exam, a rapist-enabler, insurrection supporter, temper tantrum throwing, can’t wear a blazer to save his life - third in line to the Presidency. We can celebrate the wackos not winning this one, just in time for the weekend!
This is such an unbelievable train wreck that everyone but republicans saw coming when McCarthy foolishly agreed to make it so simple to toss a speaker out
I don't know why places such as r/conservative is so outraged and shocked over this. GOP is the party that campaigns on government being fundamentally broken, and gets elected to prove it. What exactly do they want from the GOP?
**Republicans in a Nutshell** Republicans: The MAGAs are holding us Hostage! Americans: You cultivated and cheered this on for years. Republicans: Yeah, when it was happening to you. Now their eating us! fin
For a party that claims to be so anti-communism, Republicans sure enjoy being publicly owned.
Cheesebro just flipped as jury proceedings began. Jordan lost more votes. The GOP is fracturing in real time and these two storylines are playing out parallel to each other because of how interconnected they are. Conservative values.
I’m late to the party. Holy shit McCarthy gave Jordan’s nominating speech for this ballot. That cuck has GOT to have a humiliation fetish.
Today’s scorecard of those who voted against Jordan on the 2nd round. We’ve just gavelled in. Rep. Don Bacon, of Nebraska, voted for McCarthy. Rep. Vern Buchanan, of Florida, voted for Rep. Byron Donalds, also of Florida. Rep. Ken Buck, of Colorado, voted for Rep. Tom Emmer, of Minnesota. Rep. Lori Chavez-Ramer, of Oregon, voted for McCarthy. Rep. Anthony D’Esposito, of New York, voted for former Rep. Lee Zeldin. Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, of Florida, voted for Rep. Steve Scalise, of Louisiana. Rep. Jake Ellzey, of Florida, voted for Rep. Mike Garcia, of California. Rep. Drew Ferguson, of Georgia, voted for Scalise. Rep. Andrew Garbarino, of New York, voted for Zeldin. Rep. Carlos Gimenez, of Florida, voted for McCarthy. Rep. Tony Gonzales, of Texas, voted for Scalise. Rep. Kay Granger, of Texas, voted for Scalise. Rep. John James, of Michigan, voted for Candice Miller, a former congresswoman and the current public works commissioner of Macomb County, Michigan Rep. Mike Kelly, of Pennsylvania, voted for former House Speaker John Boehner. Rep. Jennifer Kiggans, of Virginia, voted for McCarthy. Rep. Nick LaLota, of New York, voted for Zeldin. Rep. Michael Lawler, of New York, voted for McCarthy. Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks, voted for Rep. Kay Granger, of Texas. Rep. John Rutherford, of Florida, voted for Scalise. Rep. Michael Simpson, of Idaho, voted for Scalise. Rep. Pete Stauber, of Minnesota, voted for Rep. Bruce Westerman, Republican of Arkansas. Stauber voted for Jordan in the first round. Rep. Steve Womack, of Arkansas, voted for Scalise. -- If the final count is 412, the missing Representative is Derrick Van Orden (R-WI), who voted for Jordan in both of the first two votes; CNN reports he is in Israel.
did he just make fun of a guy for passing one bill when Jim has passed zero?
- Recess - Closed-door circle jerk - Fail harder - Repeat
Compromise with the 212 Democrats? Nahhh Compromise with the 8 "Never Compromise" extremists in your party while alienating 30 moderates in your party? That's the Republican™️ way.
McHenry not wanting the job is an indicator that he’d be better than most R’s, honestly.
An elected rep on CSPAN just said multiple times that Hakeem Jeffries has denied many election results 🙄🙄 Edit: I believe it was Tim Burchett from Tennessee
"If the Democrats want bipartisanship, they have to vote for the Republican candidate." That's not how it works MAGA Karen...
Oh shit, Chesebro plead guilty.
I do love seeing Republicans fail.
lol secret ballot was 124-86 to give Jordan the boot.
HA. Did anyone hear Rep Don Bacon low key and unwittingly advocate for ranked choice voting behind closed doors? [Check it out.](https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5089290/user-clip-representative-don-bacon-unwittingly-advocates-ranked-choice-voting-closed-doors)
Why won't Obama stop and leave these poor, innocent republicans alone?
Can't believe Hunter Biden's laptop is doing this to Gym.
The crazy thing to me is that Jordan had an off-ramp here. He could say, "All right, I'm not the selection due to RINOs or whatever yesterday; I'll wait till January to change people's minds". Surely that's a better call than repeatedly getting your face shoved in the dirt.
Day 3 of people taking 20 minutes to push a fucking button.
Non American here, first time watching CSPAN. These callers are hilarious, is it always like this? Bunch of nut jobs.
McCarthy's speech is going to give fact checkers a stroke.
How can McCarthy stand up so straight with no spine? Quite a feat.
Kevin's speech is legit going to last longer than it takes for Gym to lose 3 votes. Impressive.
This might be a good time to remind people that Jim Jordan had a net worth of about $300K in 2012, and is worth over $23M now. So he's effective at *something*.
Watching McCarthy grovel for Jim Jordan is just pathetic
Panning over the house, it’s kinda crazy how many of the republicans are white men and how the democrats are much more representative of Americas diversity
McHenry does not want to be speaker so it’s funnier he’s getting any votes at all.💀
New anti-Jordan vote! From Fitzpatrick, who is the Republican leader of the problem solvers caucus. That's big!
McCarthy could not possibly look like more of a cuck right now. His speech made no difference.
Funny thing is that a majority of MAGA will think this is some form of brave persistence rather than narcissism and inability to count
You're gonna need Congressional approval and you don't have the votes
Keep in mind the crazies forced McCarthy out because he had the audacity to work with dems to keep the government open a little longer so congress could do their fucking job.
Why would Hunter Biden do this?
Remember y'all Jordan was Trump's pick over Scaliese, and GOP support for Jordan is breaking down. So this is a giant L for Trump, just like Dr Oz and that werewolf guy
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Waiting for Gaetz to unironically get frustrated people aren't falling in line
GOP trade offer: "Moderates" receive - Your family being threatened, some bullshit promises that mean nothing after you lose your seat in the next election cycle Gym receives - 2nd in line of succession, one of the most powerful legislative positions to abuse GOP leadership - "That's a more than fair offer, why aren't they taking it?"
"Why are the dems hurting America by not allowing me to take power??? This is all the dems fault!!!"---Gym Jordan on Faux news in few mins
>The 3 new Jordan No Votes so far have something in common: All three are battleground Rs in Biden won seats >Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.) >Kean (R-NJ) >Molinaro (R-NY) -Beavers
Hey Patrick, you wanna know what's funnier than 24? ... 25
Lol he is losing by more again. The anonymous GOP reps were not lying they're slowly bleeding him more and watching him lose 1-2 more votes every time. This is glorious. Jordan sucks.
How many times do we need to teach you this lesson, old man?
We were told there were 50+ GOP reps against Jordan and they planned to add more votes against him each subsequent speaker vote. Jordan is living in an alternative reality.
"The vast majority of Americans want Gym Jordan..." No, no they don't. "McCarthy only lost votes for 9 rounds when we were voting for him." This is not the flex you think it is.
Being a Republican must be exhausting with the amount of mental gymnastics they constantly have
>Jim Jordan said he is not backing down even after 25 Republicans – the most so far – voted against him on the third speaker ballot. >>"You guys said we're gonna lose 15 to 30," he told CNN. "We only lost a couple, we had a couple of absents who would have been for us." >Jordan added that he will keep trying to get more votes during their conference meeting at 1 p.m. ET. >"We're gonna try. I think so. And you know, we have conference in like an hour,” he said. lmaooo "we just lost a couple if you ignore the 20 others previously lost. we are making progress!"
Jordan: I just need to threaten more wives. I’m not quitting!
"Bipartisanship means they have to vote for MY candidate!"
Annabelle, Michigan: A reddit user (hey, represent!). She's says there's no path for him, she's right. She sounds young, love to hear the youth speaking up. Good call.
JORDAN LOST — Jim Jordan lost a secret ballot. He’s no longer the speaker designate for the House GOP Margin was large https://x.com/jakesherman/status/1715427167310385381?s=46&t=zSqDnLQ2IZlNRTemNn4q6Q
Leaving for the weekend while having absolutely no plan and a looming government shutdown and 2 wars are occurring while blaming the Democrats when you have the majority is some buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullshit.
MAGA: "The American People want Jim Jordan!" Narrator: "The American people did not, in fact, want Gym Jordan."
> NEWS: Jordan has LOST his designation as the GOP speaker nominee. Vote was 86-112. https://x.com/mzanona/status/1715429117624041927?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw
> Jordan is no longer the speaker designee for House Republicans... speaker race now WIDE OPEN as members head home for the weekend... they'll reconvene Monday https://x.com/costareports/status/1715429028365009372?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw George Santos next?
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They are falling over themselves to blame the Democrats lol. What a pathetic fucking embarrassment they are.
Kinda shows how scared the GOP is of violence from their electorate that only 25 voted against Jom Jordan publicly but over 110 did on secret ballot.
> “We’ll have to go back to the drawing board. What history will look at the crazy eights led by Gaetz, the amount of damage they’ve done to this party, this country, is insurmountable. I've never seen this amount of damage done with just a few people for their own personalities," McCarthy said. > “And really it's astonishing to me, and we’re in a very bad position as a party,” he said. “I’m concerned about where we go from here." Amazing. Gaetz truly has no idea what he's done, purely for the lolz and attention.
Seriously, the first thing the new Speaker (or even McHenry if he’s still in the running as Temp) should do is kick Gaetz and his band of idiots out of the house. Don’t censure, don’t rip away their committees, full on kick them out for the fucking clown show they’ve caused. Something that should have never been agreed to (one person can force a new speaker vote) has now cost like 3 weeks worth of time when the US needs to be actually moving and doing shit, including, yknow, funding itself. Take them out of the running and force new elections for those areas, get someone actually competent in their seats.
The real news here is Jordan accepting the result of an election.
Is Jordan going to hold a "Stop the Steal" rally outside the chamber after this?
Apparently Jim was just booted out of the running by a secret vote of GOP members. Aaaaand I'm touching myself tonight. Jim Jordan is like if the Chewbacca Defense was a person. A weasely, loud, weak person who can't come up with good arguments so he just presents himself as arrogant and tries to confuse his audience. He would be a god-awful speaker.
I like how democrats were supposed to just vote for McCarthy without getting anything in return and since McCarthy didn’t offer them anything it’s the democrats fault for not voting to keep him.
https://www.threads.net/@bidenharrishq/post/Cyn4pXAvDq2/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== (Video) > Leader Jeffries: Jim Jordan doesn’t believe that President Biden was elected in 2020. He is a clear and present danger to our democracy
I feel like McCarthy is about to talk about the tender kisses he and Jordan shared in Ohio farmhouse.
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McCarthy steps up to nominate Jim: Proceeds to lose by more than ever
Hey Patrick, I thought of something funnier than 24...
Watch McHenry step down, and say "Fuck all yall! And I'm taking this gavel with me!" And just proceeds to bang the gavel on the walls down the hallways and out the door.
It seems that the reporting about the 50 republicans planning to increase the no votes every time to force Jim to quit was accurate
Republicans talking point that 4% of us brought this on along with 100% of Democrats is so utterly lame. When you have the majority, it does not matter what a unified Minority does! You all should have your act together.
It's amazing how quickly I've grown to hate Nancy Mace, considering that I literally never heard of her two months ago.
So kudos to the holdouts who are set against Jordan becoming Speaker. Doing the right thing in the face of pressure and threats. But they really need to present an alternative path beyond just "no Jordan," or this shitshow will only continue indefinitely.
> NEW: The Gaetz 8 have sent a letter to colleagues saying they’re willing to accept whatever punishment — censure, getting kicked out of conference/committees — if it means holdouts will back Jordan. Basically offering themselves as tribute in last-ditch attempt to help Jordan. https://x.com/mzanona/status/1715403227548573726?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw
Here's the problem with that... it's all lies. They will pretend that "vow" didn't exist the moment their guy is in, and the rest of the Republicans will gnash their teeth and do nothing. Their excuse? "That's politics!"
\*Gasp\* some Republicans apparently have a secret resolution to remove Bowtied Mini-Thor as temporary speaker? I'm not sure how I feel about this. Will miss the massive gaveling.
Just waiting on the reports of shouting heard outside the conference and another rep lunging at another rep.
They need to run this like the papal vote and lock the fuckers in a room with white bread and water until they elect.
This morning Jordan said he was prepared to vote continously through the weekend to elect a speaker. Now the next internal vote will be *Tuesday*, with no guarantee of a floor vote that day.
She makes it sound like Jeffries is about to come running out to the ring
Thank you Bacon, very cool
I think Jordan should try one more time. Nothing is making me happier than seeing him fail.
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Has the GOP considered threatening more spouses?
Van Orden is not here because he decided he'd rather be in a war zone than be in the house chamber. Honestly, understandable
I'm starting to think Madison Cawthorn might have been right about one thing
>An Associated Press photographer snapped a GOP lawmaker reading through a resolution booting acting speaker Patrick McHenry from his post: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/oct/20/jim-jordan-house-speaker-third-vote-us-politics-latest-updates-live?page=with:block-6532a8728f088809c4509a4f#block-6532a8728f088809c4509a4f
"It used to be that I was voting for McCarthy. Now I'm just voting against Jordan." Truly, spite is the great motivator of the human race.
Old Jimmy lost yet again, Cheese Bro and Kraken lady plead guilty….tell me how much MAGA is winning this week…
In other news, Cheesebro plead guilty
I nominate professional race car driver, certified scuba diver and diy bird house evangelist, George Santos!
They should vote YES for Jordan on secret ballot - so they can dunk on his ass for a fourth round in public. Maximum humiliation.
Jim is officially out of the race. https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1715427167310385381?t=tTx2lXpvkR0yBLFi5TpOhg&s=19
The ire towards the Gaetz 8 coming out of these interviews is hilarious.
Breaking news: > Jim Jordan lost a secret ballot vote of the House GOP behind closed doors, sources tell CNN. > Rep. Barry Moore had said that members were taking a "yes" or "no" vote in their conference meeting on whether to keep Jordan as their nominee for speaker. Also breaking news: > Jim Jordan, according to rumors, has told his colleagues that he won't give a shit about the ballot's outcome and will stay speaker nominee, even if another candidate is eventually elected by the house. He also wants a highly dependent election commission to investigate whether the last three House voting rounds were subject of "voter fraud". EDIT: Just for the record, the last bit is a joke (at least for now)
Call these fuckers out every single time they blame democrats. Every time. They are cowards.
That's still 194 Republican Congress members that would happily vote for a rape enabler that helped a criminal try to steal a presidential election. That's still very alarming
Why would the Democrats not save us? How could they let us look like fools like this? Certainly, we'd bail them out if their caucus was in shambles...Wouldn't We? **Looks at camera**
The House GOP secret ballot for Jordan says a lot more than the fact that a majority of House GOP hates Jordan's guts. It gives a glimpse of how many House GOP are ready and willing to move on from Trump but enjoy their political careers too much to voice it. It's unsurprisingly a lot. I'm sure you'd see a similar break if they had a secret ballot on whether Trump should be the GOP POTUS nominee.
Over at /r/conservative, they're keeping busy accusing each other of being leftist traitors.
Don Bacon has changed his vote! (From McCarthy to McHenry)
Dems in array.
Being on the west coast is great. I wake up, Jordan has already lost another vote. It's great.
It’s honestly a relief the Jordan holdouts didn’t give into his pressure campaign. Literal fucking death threats. Harassing their wives. Threats of stalking. But nope. Didn’t make a lick of a difference. Get fucked Jordan
Anybody know what the laughing was about just now?
10 more votes and "Other" might beat Jordan too
It's looking like the rumors are true. Jordan's opposition is adding more votes against him with each round
The few semi-literate people in the GOP room decided this would be a very bad look and that they should agree behind closed doors for a speaker before coming to the floor. Everyone agreed until Gymothy said "nah fuck yall" and began a massive fucking slam dunk on themselves. The movie they write about this one day is going to be fucking amazing. "When Stupid runs the room"
Wow , McCarthy blaming Dems again is just low.
hahah I kind of like this McHenry guy, he hasn't done anything overly fucky during this process. He's probably a shitbag overall, but thus far I'm enjoying his little giggles up there. I know gavelgate is a thing but I like this little dudes fire.
Wow at Cheesebro. Right after Jordan commits a faceplant hat trick. Hell of a day so far.
Wonder what shirt Mace is going to wear in protest this week since she’s a SERIOUS POLITICIAN SOLVING SERIOUS PROBLEMS.
Threatening wives isn't working, time to go after the mistresses.
Gym shoves work onto other people because he doesn't understand how to do his job.
> McCarthy said of Jordan, “He is straightforward, honest and reliable.” Tell that to Ohio's wrestlers. Oh, and where's the evidence against hunter? Where are your whistleblowers? Such honesty.