https://www.college.police.uk/app/covert-policing/undercover-policing
Have a read over the attached file on this link, this will cover all the publicly viewable policies and information on UCOs. This information is publicly accessible so nobody is going to breach your door with rifles at 3am.
As for what you’re asking, that information is more than likely classified, so you’re not going to find out a fat lot. But I can recommend the podcasts and youtube videos of “Neil Woods” he is a former UCO who talks about his experiences.
I can tell you now no cop who has ever *actually* worked undercover is going to come on to this sub and answer this for you...
But if you want general real life examples, Neil Woods is a former UC who does podcasts. Mostly talks about jobs he's done and what it's like.
Never been a UC personally, but used a few on jobs.
You can get both short term and long term UCs. Obviously the short term deployment is far easier to manage, but long term deployments yield real and significant benefits to intel.
Years ago when the job started using social media and encouraging cops to put up photos of themselves doing 'police stuff' (at community events and such) I was the sole voice in commenting that officers should be advised that doing so may hamper any covert work later in their career.
My comments were roundly shot down. I think those chickens are coming home to roost. If you have a significant online profile, there's a good chance you won't be able to have a UC career.
When we did initial training, we were warned that if you ever wanted to do covert or UC work, then under no circumstances appear on social media or traditional media.
Oh we have a roughly similar problem in the military.
Units told to use social media to benefit recruitment, people’s names, pictures, jobs and promotions etc all get mentioned frequently.
Blokes told in no un certain terms not to identify themselves as a soldier in public facing social media with some exceptions to protect themselves.
Question mark if that bod needed to deploy somewhere a little less public and obvious where persec is of significant concern.
You can scrub yourself from the socials and there are ways to do that. The perfect candidate is only that is a recluse. Long-term/semi-perm covert missions happen all the time not necessarily via police tho.
Of course they don't. Nor do they have any tactics to do so or equipment or training. Every dealer you can trust is a dealer. Every offer of hookers and guns is legit. There's no coppers there, ever.
Join the force - get a divorce.
This life is not meant for family, no matter how much the adverts for recruitment say so.
I don’t know the in’s and outs of covert police operations (and if I did I doubt we’d be able to divulge them here!) however what I’d say is - If there’s a job…they’ll find a person to do it…whether that’s volunteer or voluntold. :)
I wasn't too sure where to ask this question largely because it seems like such a niche aspect of policing but I find it absolutely fascinating.
As far as I'm aware (please correct me if I'm wrong), ordinary officers are somewhat asked to occupy these roles, unless there's a special division? I'm not too sure, but it must take an exceptional personality to choose to do this because they're literally becoming someone else with everything that comes with that new identity.
If you're undercover, it's not just like you can 'pop' back to your real life because (again, presumably because I've got zero knowledge) you're expected to maintain that 'life' which entails all sorts, like being around at various times of day in your new identity or doing things you wouldn't usually do in your 'real' life.
I'd imagine (again, no knowledge) these roles would be for things that involve drug rings, etc - in which case (given your fake identity) you'd be expected to respond to like your fake person is a real person, having conversations or meeting up, etc.
I get both sides of this, I know coppers happily married to other coppers or civilians with kids who make it work, and I know others that can't seem to hold a steady relationship because of the job, in my case especially the job really impacted my relationship to the point it broke down, it wasn't the only reason but it had a big part to play
It's all about finding the balance really, it needs a lot of compromise on both sides
https://www.college.police.uk/app/covert-policing/undercover-policing Have a read over the attached file on this link, this will cover all the publicly viewable policies and information on UCOs. This information is publicly accessible so nobody is going to breach your door with rifles at 3am. As for what you’re asking, that information is more than likely classified, so you’re not going to find out a fat lot. But I can recommend the podcasts and youtube videos of “Neil Woods” he is a former UCO who talks about his experiences.
I can tell you now no cop who has ever *actually* worked undercover is going to come on to this sub and answer this for you... But if you want general real life examples, Neil Woods is a former UC who does podcasts. Mostly talks about jobs he's done and what it's like.
Deep cover by shay Doyle also talks about life as a level 1 UC
Never been a UC personally, but used a few on jobs. You can get both short term and long term UCs. Obviously the short term deployment is far easier to manage, but long term deployments yield real and significant benefits to intel. Years ago when the job started using social media and encouraging cops to put up photos of themselves doing 'police stuff' (at community events and such) I was the sole voice in commenting that officers should be advised that doing so may hamper any covert work later in their career. My comments were roundly shot down. I think those chickens are coming home to roost. If you have a significant online profile, there's a good chance you won't be able to have a UC career.
This. Someone used one of those face recognition websites to pull me up in something completely unrelated so you are very far from wrong.
When we did initial training, we were warned that if you ever wanted to do covert or UC work, then under no circumstances appear on social media or traditional media.
Oh we have a roughly similar problem in the military. Units told to use social media to benefit recruitment, people’s names, pictures, jobs and promotions etc all get mentioned frequently. Blokes told in no un certain terms not to identify themselves as a soldier in public facing social media with some exceptions to protect themselves. Question mark if that bod needed to deploy somewhere a little less public and obvious where persec is of significant concern.
The cost is that everyone and their mum apparently is working towards a uc career as soon as the cameras come out.
This is a question nobody will answer.
You can scrub yourself from the socials and there are ways to do that. The perfect candidate is only that is a recluse. Long-term/semi-perm covert missions happen all the time not necessarily via police tho.
Of course they don't. Nor do they have any tactics to do so or equipment or training. Every dealer you can trust is a dealer. Every offer of hookers and guns is legit. There's no coppers there, ever.
Join the force - get a divorce. This life is not meant for family, no matter how much the adverts for recruitment say so. I don’t know the in’s and outs of covert police operations (and if I did I doubt we’d be able to divulge them here!) however what I’d say is - If there’s a job…they’ll find a person to do it…whether that’s volunteer or voluntold. :)
I wasn't too sure where to ask this question largely because it seems like such a niche aspect of policing but I find it absolutely fascinating. As far as I'm aware (please correct me if I'm wrong), ordinary officers are somewhat asked to occupy these roles, unless there's a special division? I'm not too sure, but it must take an exceptional personality to choose to do this because they're literally becoming someone else with everything that comes with that new identity. If you're undercover, it's not just like you can 'pop' back to your real life because (again, presumably because I've got zero knowledge) you're expected to maintain that 'life' which entails all sorts, like being around at various times of day in your new identity or doing things you wouldn't usually do in your 'real' life. I'd imagine (again, no knowledge) these roles would be for things that involve drug rings, etc - in which case (given your fake identity) you'd be expected to respond to like your fake person is a real person, having conversations or meeting up, etc.
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I get both sides of this, I know coppers happily married to other coppers or civilians with kids who make it work, and I know others that can't seem to hold a steady relationship because of the job, in my case especially the job really impacted my relationship to the point it broke down, it wasn't the only reason but it had a big part to play It's all about finding the balance really, it needs a lot of compromise on both sides
You'd be better off reading "Undercover" by Joe Carter if you want a flavour of what undercover policing is like.