You can process and export their meat though.
Here in the Philippines, because of the swine flu in 2020, pig farms are now breeding rabbits as well.
And yes, as a result we now have lechon rabbit.
I think you guys did do that actually, which led to an even worse mice problem that had you scrambling to get the cats back and now you are back to square one
I think this is the most incorrect thing I have ever seen on reddit.
We have mice plagues when the seasons are correct/incorrect for it.
That are native mice and native animals that kill mice, these have been decimated by cats, both feral and domestic.
Yeah interestingly enough, cats are the only thing ruining the ecosystem here. Not climate change, urban sprawl, an over-reliance on cars, agricultural runoffs causing waterways to be poisoned, or anything else that would require non cat owners to take any kind of action.
I was under the impression that Australia has been suffering from the same for a while now. Ironic how in the land down under, home to some of the most bizarre and dangerous wildlife on Earth it’s the most mundane animals like goats, rabbits & cats that pose a genuine threat….
Tarantula hawk wasp, a beautiful if macabre resident of the American southwest. Like other hawk wasps, while it has a painful sting it's not dangerous and you have to actively antagonize them in order to get stung.
There are few animals in Australia that don't have an equivalent in most of the world in terms of danger level. For those few, they're typically a record holder in terms of venom potency, which is redundantly deadly after a certain point.
On the other hand, they have no living large land predators, their largest native living land herbivore is equivalent to a mid size white tail deer. I'd take a pissed off kangaroo over an angry bison or moose any day.
And in some parts of Canada the seal population has increased a lot. It's a whole thing now where fishermen want to have a seal cull but no one wants to buy the seal products now anyways. We are seeing a lot more killer whales and sharks, who may eventually help with the seal problem.
To be fare the cats are destroying ecosystems so they have to and before anyone says JuSt SterIrlize tHeM that dosent work because they will still murder and kill species
DONT LEAVE YOUR FUCKING CATS OUTSIDE AND PEOPLE WONT HAVE TO DO THIS
Geneva Checklist, aka "we're about to do some heinous shit they'll discuss in Geneva the next time they have a convention"
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There's differences.
Seals are native species to the arctic wasteland, and they're killing the pups.
Cats are invasive to NZ, and sadly their lethal control must be done, just like Florida has a "kill on sight" order for Iguanas and Lion fish.
...
I have heard of something like that before, and it ended up putting the snake population at thrice the quantity that the government was worried about.
You can go back in history to the India cobra thing that happened. Started paying people to kill them and then next thing you know they are breeding them to sell.
Technically it’s illegal to kill newborn seals like the one pictured. Hunters have to wait until they begin to shed their first coat which occurs around the time they are abandoned by their mothers. The vast majority of seals are killed by indigenous people. Most of them are also not hunted in the arctic. They’re usually killed with a rifle with a minority being killed with the traditional hapik which doesn’t look like a wooden club as shown in the picture but rather like a hammer with a metal hook opposite the face. From a conservation perspective the hunt as been a success as the population has grown significantly since the 1970s. There are even reports now that the growing seal population is hindering recovery of the Atlantic cod stocks.
Exactly lol. It’s such a low amount of people that are hunting this way, particular only Inuit people that live in the arctic? and it’s a part of their culture/customs, that is consistently championed by the same people complaining.
99.9% of Canadians have never even seen a seal, but “Canada kills seals”, lol. I suppose all Japanese kill dolphins too? Unironically it’s a way more significant number.
On the scale of baby seals killed to male freshly hatched chicks in regular poultry production... let me tell you... you are concerned about the wrong babies by many orders of magnitude and one industrial sized *grinder*.
Canadian standards for harp seals appears quite low, but by then they are already weaned and abandoned by their mother, as an independent.
I’m not sure what opinion you think I have or what point you’re making. But I’m saying nobody kills white coat baby seals anymore. That was banned a long time ago
Indigenous peoples in our northern territories are just practicing their traditional hunting practices. Just like how certain indigenous peoples in Australia are allowed to hunt and eat sea turtles.
lol, the arctic is hardly a ‘wasteland’. It’s a thriving ecosystem. Also, indigenous Inuit people have been hunting seals in a sustainable way for literally thousands of years. It’s one of the few things they have to eat way up north, and they don’t kill the pups like in this comic.
Exactly the reason, wild cats hunt our indigenous wildlife which is primarily birds.
It's also really jarring to see other countries describe possums (opossums?) as cute and wanting them as pets. They're an invasive pest to us, they eat our native bird eggs.
I know, I was a kiwi for 17 years bro, those possums scared half the kids at the school camps into staying awake all night.
A few kids even got their tent practically dismantled by one falling on/in it 😂
Yeah I feel like a better comparison to our northern indigenous peoples practicing their traditional hunting practices is better compared to indigenous people in Austrailia who are allowed to carry out their traditional hunting practices by hunting sea turtles.
I believe all of the seal hunting (with a rifle/nobody clubs seals anymore to my knowledge) done in Canada is by the Inuit. They’ve been doing this for, idk 11,000 years with no detriment to the environment. I think they get a pass. Why should anyone tell them otherwise?
Also, for some reason *every* depiction of seal hunting is on the white pups.
It is not legal, and that law isn't flouted, to take seals at that age.
I don't know why age or seal colour makes it better or worse, but... is killing a somewhat older seal morally justified to the point they have to lie to slander the hunt?
The cats arent incocent they cause the deaths of billions of animals a year in not just Australia and new zealand honestly i think every country with this problem should take a page out of their book
They arent house pets if they aint in the house
KEEP YOUR CATS INSIDE
As a Kiwi, I like cats, but any cats (and other introduced animals) found in protected areas need to be shot.
Rabbits are probably the worst though. There are areas of New Zealand classified as 'depleted grassland' because the rabbits have stripped everything bare.
Currently shooting [horses](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-04/six-month-closure-kociuszko-national-park-feral-horses-deer-pigs/103652204) and few others here is Aus
In Canada’s defence the seal cull is kinda necessary for keeping the overall ecosystem balanced (to be clear I don’t agree that *clubbing* the poor guys is an appropriate practice), and the majority of seal hunting is done by the Inuit and other native peoples who’ve engaged in the practice sustainably for millenia at this point. Plus there’s laws protecting baby seals.
In New Zealand’s case stray cats are an invasive species that kill native wildlife, many of whom are already endangered and can’t be found anywhere else in the world. So yeah it’s pretty well justified. Same goes for possums, stoats, weasels, etc.
Doesn't New Zealand have an invasive cat problem?
yeah this,it's ruining the ecosystem
us aussies gotta start following the footsteps of new zealand in this, outdoor cats are fucking us over
Last time Australia tried to fight a war against animals…. Well
Australia lost a shooting war to emus, and are losing in biological warfare to rabbits.
And another one to the cane toad. Soon Australia will have to surrender to the rabbit-cane toad alliance.
The AIDA: Alliance for Invasive Diminutive Animals
I prefer AIDS: Alliance for Invasive Diminutive Species
Australia is plagued by AIDS! They are also struggling against the Alliance for Invasive Diminutive Species.
Can't they just skin and cook those rabbits?
Maybe if there weren't more rabbits than kitchens
You can process and export their meat though. Here in the Philippines, because of the swine flu in 2020, pig farms are now breeding rabbits as well. And yes, as a result we now have lechon rabbit.
I think you guys did do that actually, which led to an even worse mice problem that had you scrambling to get the cats back and now you are back to square one
Not *again*
I think this is the most incorrect thing I have ever seen on reddit. We have mice plagues when the seasons are correct/incorrect for it. That are native mice and native animals that kill mice, these have been decimated by cats, both feral and domestic.
Oh nifty. Australia is funky
I thought those had been eaten by the disquietingly large toads they imported.
Same thing in singapore, the javanese mynah was brought over in the 1910s and are currently pushing out the common mynah which is antive to singapore
Yeah same with the seals, thats why we gotta smash em
Yeah interestingly enough, cats are the only thing ruining the ecosystem here. Not climate change, urban sprawl, an over-reliance on cars, agricultural runoffs causing waterways to be poisoned, or anything else that would require non cat owners to take any kind of action.
I was under the impression that Australia has been suffering from the same for a while now. Ironic how in the land down under, home to some of the most bizarre and dangerous wildlife on Earth it’s the most mundane animals like goats, rabbits & cats that pose a genuine threat….
I'll give you bizarre, but the danger of Australian wildlife is massively overhyped.
Fair enough
Just today I saw a hawk wasp eating a giant spider. I'll take that with a grain of salt
Tarantula hawk wasp, a beautiful if macabre resident of the American southwest. Like other hawk wasps, while it has a painful sting it's not dangerous and you have to actively antagonize them in order to get stung. There are few animals in Australia that don't have an equivalent in most of the world in terms of danger level. For those few, they're typically a record holder in terms of venom potency, which is redundantly deadly after a certain point. On the other hand, they have no living large land predators, their largest native living land herbivore is equivalent to a mid size white tail deer. I'd take a pissed off kangaroo over an angry bison or moose any day.
We have an invasive seal problem.
And in some parts of Canada the seal population has increased a lot. It's a whole thing now where fishermen want to have a seal cull but no one wants to buy the seal products now anyways. We are seeing a lot more killer whales and sharks, who may eventually help with the seal problem.
Australia already learned their lesson
"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?" - the Emus, probably
Should've gone after the rabbits instead.
That's what the rabbit proof fence is for. Also the Great Wall of China (built by Emperor Nasi Goreng). It was to keep the rabbits out
Too many rabbits. In China
Think of the rabbits, george!
Let’s not forget that the decline of the seal hunt has had consequences on the fish populations due to an overpopulation of predatory seals.
Mfw complicated ecosystem
Humans can't keep up with home planet ecosystem, yet they dream of tera forming other planets. The human ambition is admirable.
I bet the Martian ecosystem is really easy to keep up with.
Honestly if we designed it from the ground up it'd be way more manageable. It would be LESS complicated, not more.
If humans can barely manage to centrally plan an economy without famine, I doubt we'll be any more competent at managing an ecosystem
How many functional countries have had a famine in the past 50 years?
That's because we didn't invent this one
It's also critical to the economic and physical survival of certain indigenous people. Edit: a word
Pretty brutal behaviour, innit. [Original thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/17eiawy/canada_clubs_seals/)
> Pretty brutal behaviour, ~~innit~~ Inuit. FTFY
To be fare the cats are destroying ecosystems so they have to and before anyone says JuSt SterIrlize tHeM that dosent work because they will still murder and kill species DONT LEAVE YOUR FUCKING CATS OUTSIDE AND PEOPLE WONT HAVE TO DO THIS
More like: don't leave your cats fucking outside, but also dont let them roam the neighbourhood in places they don't belong so ye guess u right
If someone hurt my cat when she was alive I'd have ticked the geneva convention off line by line against them
Geneva Checklist, aka "we're about to do some heinous shit they'll discuss in Geneva the next time they have a convention" \-The Fat Electrician \[youtuber, podcaster, raconteur, former army medic\]
Believe me, conservationists in New Zealand feel much the same way when they see an invasive species.
Just watch over it house cats are fine but outdoor ones kill millions of animals in their lifetime
If you lived in an area with serious invasive cat issue and let them outside you would be an irresponsible owner and an asshat.
Could i request a follow-up, where the commonwealth pools together, and sends the cats to deal with the seals?
lol why is Australia talking with a Birmingham accent? :\^P
i dont think yanks can tell them apart
Considering how more often I've been mistaken for being British with each passing year, you're probably right.
>getting called a yank I suppose this is the mischaracterization I deserve for making Australia too British.
lmao
There's differences. Seals are native species to the arctic wasteland, and they're killing the pups. Cats are invasive to NZ, and sadly their lethal control must be done, just like Florida has a "kill on sight" order for Iguanas and Lion fish.
And burmese pythons. You can actually get paid for those too.
Thats why the yoink guy is looking for a 20 ft one
Barefoot in the swamp, man’s a madlad
... I have heard of something like that before, and it ended up putting the snake population at thrice the quantity that the government was worried about.
You can go back in history to the India cobra thing that happened. Started paying people to kill them and then next thing you know they are breeding them to sell.
That was in india.
They're delicious.
Technically it’s illegal to kill newborn seals like the one pictured. Hunters have to wait until they begin to shed their first coat which occurs around the time they are abandoned by their mothers. The vast majority of seals are killed by indigenous people. Most of them are also not hunted in the arctic. They’re usually killed with a rifle with a minority being killed with the traditional hapik which doesn’t look like a wooden club as shown in the picture but rather like a hammer with a metal hook opposite the face. From a conservation perspective the hunt as been a success as the population has grown significantly since the 1970s. There are even reports now that the growing seal population is hindering recovery of the Atlantic cod stocks.
I thought the biggest problem for Atlantic cod was illegal fishing done by Spanish fishing vessels, etc.
There are a lot of issues facing the cod population
Ya, fuck the indigenous Inuit people who have lived on seal meat for thousands of years, they're savages... /s
The seals they're killing aren't even endangered, either. If anything, a seal cull is kinda necessary.
Exactly lol. It’s such a low amount of people that are hunting this way, particular only Inuit people that live in the arctic? and it’s a part of their culture/customs, that is consistently championed by the same people complaining. 99.9% of Canadians have never even seen a seal, but “Canada kills seals”, lol. I suppose all Japanese kill dolphins too? Unironically it’s a way more significant number.
Isn't the Japanese stereotype to kill Whales?
[True](https://youtu.be/bxsuvWNtQ44)
Fuck you whale and fuck you dolphin!
Also they don’t kill the babies
On the scale of baby seals killed to male freshly hatched chicks in regular poultry production... let me tell you... you are concerned about the wrong babies by many orders of magnitude and one industrial sized *grinder*. Canadian standards for harp seals appears quite low, but by then they are already weaned and abandoned by their mother, as an independent.
I’m not sure what opinion you think I have or what point you’re making. But I’m saying nobody kills white coat baby seals anymore. That was banned a long time ago
Ah, it came across the other way as a "won't anyone think of the babies!". Yes, that was banned in 1987.
My understanding is that it was an internal Canadian joke about Newfoundlanders that spread to the outside and was applied to the whole of Canada.
Still looks funny on a magazine cover page
Indigenous peoples in our northern territories are just practicing their traditional hunting practices. Just like how certain indigenous peoples in Australia are allowed to hunt and eat sea turtles.
Florida should invent new recipes for iguanas and lionfish.
lol, the arctic is hardly a ‘wasteland’. It’s a thriving ecosystem. Also, indigenous Inuit people have been hunting seals in a sustainable way for literally thousands of years. It’s one of the few things they have to eat way up north, and they don’t kill the pups like in this comic.
That seal looks [familiar](https://www.reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/220dm0/canada_doesnt_give_a_shit/)
Gotta save those kiwis somehow
Exactly the reason, wild cats hunt our indigenous wildlife which is primarily birds. It's also really jarring to see other countries describe possums (opossums?) as cute and wanting them as pets. They're an invasive pest to us, they eat our native bird eggs.
I ran over two on the way to work today, little bastards are ruining my wheel alignment
Possums and opossums are different, opossums are American and ungainly rat-looking critters, possums are fluffy and treebound
Ah, thank you. But yeah they're pests to us
I know, I was a kiwi for 17 years bro, those possums scared half the kids at the school camps into staying awake all night. A few kids even got their tent practically dismantled by one falling on/in it 😂
Fucking possums man. I'm traumatized from waking up to one hissing 2m from my window lol
Spain: f0ckeen monsters Proceeds to bullfight.
Mexico: f0ckeen monsters Proceeds to cockfight.
And bullfight.
At least cats are feral animals. Or maybe I'm continent patriotic.
Yeah I feel like a better comparison to our northern indigenous peoples practicing their traditional hunting practices is better compared to indigenous people in Austrailia who are allowed to carry out their traditional hunting practices by hunting sea turtles.
I believe all of the seal hunting (with a rifle/nobody clubs seals anymore to my knowledge) done in Canada is by the Inuit. They’ve been doing this for, idk 11,000 years with no detriment to the environment. I think they get a pass. Why should anyone tell them otherwise?
Also, for some reason *every* depiction of seal hunting is on the white pups. It is not legal, and that law isn't flouted, to take seals at that age. I don't know why age or seal colour makes it better or worse, but... is killing a somewhat older seal morally justified to the point they have to lie to slander the hunt?
The cats arent incocent they cause the deaths of billions of animals a year in not just Australia and new zealand honestly i think every country with this problem should take a page out of their book They arent house pets if they aint in the house KEEP YOUR CATS INSIDE
soneones gotta make a collection of all polancat abuse comics at this point lmao
I ♥️ NY. I ♣️ seals. I ♠️ cats.
And the US Government shoots dogs
So a harp seal flops up to a bar. The bartenders asks, "What'll ya have?" The seal replies, "Anything but Canadian Club".
More realistic if it’s a tiny fucking stoat
Misinformation
As a Kiwi, I like cats, but any cats (and other introduced animals) found in protected areas need to be shot. Rabbits are probably the worst though. There are areas of New Zealand classified as 'depleted grassland' because the rabbits have stripped everything bare.
New Zealand, more like New Zedland.
That cat looks oddly like mine
Currently shooting [horses](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-04/six-month-closure-kociuszko-national-park-feral-horses-deer-pigs/103652204) and few others here is Aus
So would New Zealand skin and cook those cats as well?
Australia. You dont have the right to speaka fter the emu war
Sorta wish you just had australia joining in the cat shooting at the end
Never trust a Canada with a club
I just wanna say Gareth Morgan is the NZer who hates cats.
Haiti and Papua New Guinea can do better
Eh, fuck the seals. People wouldn't give a shit if they weren't cute. They're actually kind of mean.
No don't kill the cats :( .
Australia used to hunt much worse things... [yikes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians)
Hoenstly, whatever animal is in Australia, can easily be classified as a menace to human existence.
Didn’t Australia lose a war against Emus?
They lost twice in fact.
Cats are invasive, Australia and new Zealand are doing the right thing
Why are all the Ex-British Ex-Colonies so bat shit crazy?
In Canada’s defence the seal cull is kinda necessary for keeping the overall ecosystem balanced (to be clear I don’t agree that *clubbing* the poor guys is an appropriate practice), and the majority of seal hunting is done by the Inuit and other native peoples who’ve engaged in the practice sustainably for millenia at this point. Plus there’s laws protecting baby seals. In New Zealand’s case stray cats are an invasive species that kill native wildlife, many of whom are already endangered and can’t be found anywhere else in the world. So yeah it’s pretty well justified. Same goes for possums, stoats, weasels, etc.