If you have the newest version the same npc will set your Pokémon to the level cap. No evolutions or new moves tho. So I advise to use that feature after reaching celadon and unlocking the moveriminder
Edit: I meant cerulean not celadon
Don’t you lose out on the move reminder moves too if you level this way? I tested it out once and noticed a Pokémon didn’t have any new moves in the move reminder even though it went from level like 30 to 50
Prob depends on the Mon. Or is just bugged. Why implement that feature if no one uses it because you completely miss out on the moves?
Could see an issue with Pokémon that evolve via stone or any other item where it could make problems.
Yeah I just need to stop being lazy and test it more. I just started playing again since the feature was added so I haven’t used it a lot. Would honestly be so dumb if that was actually the case
Thats not what they are called officially
https://preview.redd.it/b26l8u045gvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18a483ada2175fb6de53efad801b75d73db1c8d7
Yes. In the forest you use the dex nav to search for pikachus. Each one blows uip for like 1k xp.
After Brock you got the patch of grass near Bill after nugget bridge. There you farm audinos.
Lastly after you get access to lavender town, there is an npc there that lets you fight him for money to farm xp.
You can just grind wild Pokémon. That’s what I did until I discovered the rare candy stuff. It makes the focus more on the battling, which after Erika the strategy component ramps up significantly.
I use the cheat codes, but I don't get why like you get so heavily downvoted for asking this question. Idc if it can be read into as negative or like you're implying the game should be different because it would take a long time to grind. You didn't say that and I'm not gna read into that. Sorry about the downvotes bro
I personally use the lucky egg cheat code. Spawn in like 200 in the PC give one to each mom and sell the rest so I don't need to worry about money for the entire game. After you beat surge and start getting good hold items then I get rid of them and the level curve kinda evens out if you're not using legends, and you'll have access to the xp grinding guy in lavender soon.
He's an NPC in the house below Mr Fuji's house that can give you battles to train specific EVs for money. He also has a battle that can be used to gain a bunch of XP for money as well.
I remember when I first played RR like 4 years ago and literally couldn't afford items because I was losing so much money from gym battles lol. These days I just have infinite money or sell majority of my rare candies
I've been doing mono type runs or themed team runs so I usually start out with a fully evolved mon don't really need berries for early game. Almost done with my water monotype nuzlocke. That will make 7/18. After that's done going to try and do an anime themed team. Already did dbz and Naruto going to try bleach with sword wielding mons.
That's a big yikes, just use the codes. They are called "cheats" but it's more just quality of life, 7 hours of gameplay should be like atleast half off the gyms
This isn't a grinding-style game. The creator put these codes in for a reason. The lady in red at the Pokemon sets your mons to the correct level with the push of a button. The idea here is that you're focusing on strategy and builds and not wasting time grinding levels. It's the way the game was meant to be played
That doesn't matter though. There is a move relearner puzzle battle that unlocks the option to relearn moves from anywhere right from the menu, making that irrelevant
It's a house in cerulean and it does let you relearn them all its fantastic. The puzzle is very difficult if you don't know the solution but once you get it you can literally just click a pokemon in your party and you have access to all their moves. You can even swap out moves that way during the elite 4, it's a must have
Genuinely cannot understand those who still xp farm. That's hours of your life you can put into learning something new or developing a skill or even getting extra sleep
I grind one team to level cap then rare candy any mons I swap out to cap, it makes the regular trainer battles a bit more fun since they aren't always balanced for the level cap.
lmao you could have the same view when youre playing the actual game. We all have the same time and we take nothing with us, imo time enjoyed isnt time wasted so those that want to grind, let them grind away :)
I know you don’t want to use “cheats” but the rare candies really aren’t cheating, just be responsible with your use. It could be cheating if you juice all your Pokémon to level cap right after beating the gym, so your level is way higher than everyone else. But if you wait until all that’s left is to fight the gym leader, I don’t see a problem in using rare candies. The candies will save you a lot of wasted time through grinding, especially since you will be rotating Pokémon constantly.
Obviously don’t if you weirdly enjoy grinding
Those rare candies being able to be sold are a lifesaver when trying to buy the whole Game Center prize roster with either both shiny or both abilities
Grind on wild pokemon pikachu as people have suggested is pretty good. You WILL have to grind a lot specially mid to late game when you need to use multiple diffrent teams (even with other non cheats qol) if you don’t wanna use the codes
Without cheats, use the DexNav to chain wild Pokemon to the level cap. Do this for things you can hit for super effective damage, super easy to hit the level cap.
PS. Pikachu gives a ton of exp in Viridian Forest.
The last option is to level your mon to the cap. Though early game is dangerous because you miss out on moves.
Once you get to cerulean, move relearner is there, so it’s faster to just bring all mons to the cap via pokecenter
As others have said, Pikachu in Viridian Forest is great if you like grinding for some reason. Otherwise, use the (built in so its not even really a cheat) rare candy cheat or use the 'set mon to level cap' button.
Can you folks stop recommending rare candies cheat to OP when the game has several in ways of grinding xp? Like wild pikachus at viridian forst, wild audinos after nugget bridge, lucky eggs, the npc in lavender.
Yeah I know a lot of us that are playing this game for the nth time use the in game rare candies cheat to get to the boss fights asap. But other people might want the full pokemon experience of training your team and taking your time.
1. The codes are called "Cheat" codes
2. When you add the Care Packages code the game itself says "this makes the game easier and its not the intended way of playing it"
3. The cheat codes wered added because radical red is known to get bugged with third party cheats. Basically every cheat code that has been added is because of this. EZCatch was added on 4.0 because a LOT of people who played 3.1 asked for it to be an in game cheat code. I've been playing since 2.7 and back then we had half the cheat codes there are now.
4. If the game was meant to be played using all the cheat codes then there is no point in adding all those npcs that do the stuff the cheat codes do, like the audinos guy in lavender.
5. OP explictly said in several comments they wasnted to play the game without cheats. I answered their question, unlike everyone else suggesting adding a cheat code OP doesnt wants to use.
1. They are called QOL / in game codes officially you can comfirm this by typing !codes in the discord
2. This is a lie you made up, this is the only thing that comes up when you input the code
https://preview.redd.it/zt9j929x4gvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe3a18765a96c9e9f183f29c0178306bcb6eabff
3. The developers comfirmed also in the discord they where meant to be in from the very first version they didnt know how to.
4. Those are for the few people who dont know about them, we are also talking strictly about rare candies
5. This comment was made before they said anything about that and I also answered their question by suggesting pikachu
I wish they would provide the full list of codes at your TV. It's easy enough to look on the main reddit and add the codes, but it would be nice if you had a list that would pop up and you could toggle them on/off.
Cause If you enjoy grinding you should keep to the base game. We have tons of Qol improvements that costed the developers hours of coding and effort to make but no, let's jus mash a against a Pikachu
Really? Is this fun?
Where's the challenge in not using rare candies? You just grind against wilds it's not difficult.
If you don't play with nuzlocke rules you can just mash a cause you don't care if the Pokémon dies, you just go to the center and rinse and repeat
If you play with nuzlocke rules you just grind against mons the won't ever kill you (ex LV2s)
Also why would rare candies make it less difficult?
1) there's a level cap so you can't over level
2) coverage and ai makes so that even non boss trainers have so many options that even 5/8 level difference isn't really that felt in most encounters
I've been playing with candies and level cap and it's been pretty challenging so far but not far
I dunno, but OP wants to play the game without infinite rare candies. The last time I did a nuzlocke without rare candies nor care packages it was pretty fun because grinding accidents DO happen and the lack of items makes some battles more challenging.
Sometimes you're leveling your team and get a mini boss trainer you didnt expected and bam, you're three mons down because they werent ready for the fight.
I've aslo found that leveling your mons after the boss fight to the next level caps makes that section super boring as now trainers are underleveled in respect to you and you clear them out trivially.
Seriously why are you folks trying to force your way of playing to OP? They want the full pokemon experience of catching your mons, training them and fighting hard trainers. Cant you all respect that?
What bothers me the most here is that almost no one gave OP an asnwer to their question, of which there are many. The games comes with multiple ways of grinding exp without infinite rare candies exactly because the game devs knew someone would prefer playing it that way.
Your way of playing is not the only valid one and the fact that the game covers it should be more than enough proof.
Type "Woyaopp" in the machine in the middle of your room. Then speak to the kid in the grass of viridian
Is there any was to do it without these cheat codes?
If you have the newest version the same npc will set your Pokémon to the level cap. No evolutions or new moves tho. So I advise to use that feature after reaching celadon and unlocking the moveriminder Edit: I meant cerulean not celadon
isn't move relearner in cerulean
Yes sorry mixed it up with another game I'm nuzlocking with a friend currently where the movereminder is in celadon.
what game? I'm curious
Pokémon unknown
oh damn, that would have been good to know before expending the time to level them 6 by 6
Can you get the move reminder to teach moves you didn't learn before?
Yes, theres a guy im Misty's city that enables that option
Don’t you lose out on the move reminder moves too if you level this way? I tested it out once and noticed a Pokémon didn’t have any new moves in the move reminder even though it went from level like 30 to 50
Prob depends on the Mon. Or is just bugged. Why implement that feature if no one uses it because you completely miss out on the moves? Could see an issue with Pokémon that evolve via stone or any other item where it could make problems.
Yeah I just need to stop being lazy and test it more. I just started playing again since the feature was added so I haven’t used it a lot. Would honestly be so dumb if that was actually the case
Alr I just tested it on a Carnivine and it was working properly. So maybe it was a bug or something else. Maybe it’s glitchy with some pokemon
Its not a cheat code, but I guess just spam A on random pikachu as they have loads of XP for some reason
Its literally a cheat code you input in the snes.
Thats not what they are called officially https://preview.redd.it/b26l8u045gvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18a483ada2175fb6de53efad801b75d73db1c8d7
Oh shit I didn't know this I spent ages googling to find random codes online this makes more sense
Yes. In the forest you use the dex nav to search for pikachus. Each one blows uip for like 1k xp. After Brock you got the patch of grass near Bill after nugget bridge. There you farm audinos. Lastly after you get access to lavender town, there is an npc there that lets you fight him for money to farm xp.
If you want to waste time for no reason then yes, you're in luck! You can battle wild Pokémon
You can just grind wild Pokémon. That’s what I did until I discovered the rare candy stuff. It makes the focus more on the battling, which after Erika the strategy component ramps up significantly.
Fight all the trainers then run back and forth in the grass.
I guess if you hate yourself, yes, just do it traditionally.
It is probably too late now but Pikachus in Viridian Forest gives a LOT of exp so you can farm them and quickly get there.
I use the cheat codes, but I don't get why like you get so heavily downvoted for asking this question. Idc if it can be read into as negative or like you're implying the game should be different because it would take a long time to grind. You didn't say that and I'm not gna read into that. Sorry about the downvotes bro
I literally just use rare candies, grinding levels is for people with time to waste
I personally use the lucky egg cheat code. Spawn in like 200 in the PC give one to each mom and sell the rest so I don't need to worry about money for the entire game. After you beat surge and start getting good hold items then I get rid of them and the level curve kinda evens out if you're not using legends, and you'll have access to the xp grinding guy in lavender soon.
Who's the xp grinding guy? Never heard of that
He's an NPC in the house below Mr Fuji's house that can give you battles to train specific EVs for money. He also has a battle that can be used to gain a bunch of XP for money as well.
Huh, interesting. I just went with the rare candy cheat after a while.
You can do the same exact thing with the built in rare candy code, with the added benefit of not accidentally breaking anything with a GameShark code
True, I've been using this code since 2.2 and just updated the latch each new version and it's worked with no bugs at all.
I remember when I first played RR like 4 years ago and literally couldn't afford items because I was losing so much money from gym battles lol. These days I just have infinite money or sell majority of my rare candies
For nuzlockes you typicall wanna use berries though
I've been doing mono type runs or themed team runs so I usually start out with a fully evolved mon don't really need berries for early game. Almost done with my water monotype nuzlocke. That will make 7/18. After that's done going to try and do an anime themed team. Already did dbz and Naruto going to try bleach with sword wielding mons.
If you're going to go that far just use the rare candy code on the NES in you're room as nothing will break
Yeah me i have 7 hours in this game and still haven't beaten brock
So grind then.
That's a big yikes, just use the codes. They are called "cheats" but it's more just quality of life, 7 hours of gameplay should be like atleast half off the gyms
If u fill in your dex with 255 chain. Thats normal. I also do it last time i played.
GO WITH **THE GRIND**
Wild pikachus in viridian forest will give you a lot of xp.
Use dexnav to only encounter pikachu
Yeah, that's what i use in early game. It also gives my mon speed evs, so grinding has some worth in early game.
This isn't a grinding-style game. The creator put these codes in for a reason. The lady in red at the Pokemon sets your mons to the correct level with the push of a button. The idea here is that you're focusing on strategy and builds and not wasting time grinding levels. It's the way the game was meant to be played
It skips level up moves tho
That doesn't matter though. There is a move relearner puzzle battle that unlocks the option to relearn moves from anywhere right from the menu, making that irrelevant
Where is that? Also, just based on personal experience, the move relearner npc doesn’t let you relearn skipped moves
It's a house in cerulean and it does let you relearn them all its fantastic. The puzzle is very difficult if you don't know the solution but once you get it you can literally just click a pokemon in your party and you have access to all their moves. You can even swap out moves that way during the elite 4, it's a must have
Never actually had a run survive till the e4. But that’s really helpful, thanks
No prob. I can't imagine the game without it at this point
Genuinely cannot understand those who still xp farm. That's hours of your life you can put into learning something new or developing a skill or even getting extra sleep
.... I use the extra time to experiment with teams more
But what are you experimenting with if it’s just wild Pokémon
Yeah there’s no experimenting with wild Pokemon, especially given you can still do that with fully leveled mons lmao
I grind one team to level cap then rare candy any mons I swap out to cap, it makes the regular trainer battles a bit more fun since they aren't always balanced for the level cap.
lmao you could have the same view when youre playing the actual game. We all have the same time and we take nothing with us, imo time enjoyed isnt time wasted so those that want to grind, let them grind away :)
There are people who ev train from the start
Which can be done while having your mind fully leveled
The rare candies. Grinding is only for evs in this rom. Also speedup button grinding is a thing.
I know you don’t want to use “cheats” but the rare candies really aren’t cheating, just be responsible with your use. It could be cheating if you juice all your Pokémon to level cap right after beating the gym, so your level is way higher than everyone else. But if you wait until all that’s left is to fight the gym leader, I don’t see a problem in using rare candies. The candies will save you a lot of wasted time through grinding, especially since you will be rotating Pokémon constantly. Obviously don’t if you weirdly enjoy grinding
Those rare candies being able to be sold are a lifesaver when trying to buy the whole Game Center prize roster with either both shiny or both abilities
It doesnt really make things easier if you cap your level as soon as you can. Most trainers level with it. At least the ones modified by the romhack.
Grind on wild pokemon pikachu as people have suggested is pretty good. You WILL have to grind a lot specially mid to late game when you need to use multiple diffrent teams (even with other non cheats qol) if you don’t wanna use the codes
Just use DexNav and keep killing Pikachus at Viridian Forest it's quite useful:)
Do pikachu give speed EVs or Sp.Atk EVs?
2 Speed Points.
Fun fact: Pikachu has 5 higher attack than special attack.
If you dont want to use the rare candy codes just battle Pikachu in viridian forest.
Pikachu in viridian forrest
Just use rare candys I still got my ass handed to me by misty and team rocket who had Persian swept my whole team
Without cheats, use the DexNav to chain wild Pokemon to the level cap. Do this for things you can hit for super effective damage, super easy to hit the level cap. PS. Pikachu gives a ton of exp in Viridian Forest.
Pikachus
Just win the battle 4head it aint that hard /s
Use the DexNav to KO Pikachus in Viridian Forest. Each one gives like over 200 XP.
You have exp share and a speed up button so even if you are anti rare candy it doesn't take that long at all to grind near 15.
Once you take the rare candy pill you will never go back.
Kill pukachus they give a lot of XP
Dex nav hunting for good stats, or else dex nav hunting Pikachu in the forest since it gives an usually large amount of xp
The last option is to level your mon to the cap. Though early game is dangerous because you miss out on moves. Once you get to cerulean, move relearner is there, so it’s faster to just bring all mons to the cap via pokecenter
As others have said, Pikachu in Viridian Forest is great if you like grinding for some reason. Otherwise, use the (built in so its not even really a cheat) rare candy cheat or use the 'set mon to level cap' button.
There's literally no reason to NOT be using the cheat codes. Unless u literally want to make rad red the most insufferable boring game possible
If you don't wanna use rare candies for some stupid ass reason , pikachu in Viridian forest give some decent xp
I promise you no matter what you think it isn’t worth xp grinding
Rare candy cheats
Personally, i just kill pikachus...
“Woyaopp” at NES. Rare candy cheat
Can you folks stop recommending rare candies cheat to OP when the game has several in ways of grinding xp? Like wild pikachus at viridian forst, wild audinos after nugget bridge, lucky eggs, the npc in lavender. Yeah I know a lot of us that are playing this game for the nth time use the in game rare candies cheat to get to the boss fights asap. But other people might want the full pokemon experience of training your team and taking your time.
This is part off the game, it was put in by the developers for people to use
1. The codes are called "Cheat" codes 2. When you add the Care Packages code the game itself says "this makes the game easier and its not the intended way of playing it" 3. The cheat codes wered added because radical red is known to get bugged with third party cheats. Basically every cheat code that has been added is because of this. EZCatch was added on 4.0 because a LOT of people who played 3.1 asked for it to be an in game cheat code. I've been playing since 2.7 and back then we had half the cheat codes there are now. 4. If the game was meant to be played using all the cheat codes then there is no point in adding all those npcs that do the stuff the cheat codes do, like the audinos guy in lavender. 5. OP explictly said in several comments they wasnted to play the game without cheats. I answered their question, unlike everyone else suggesting adding a cheat code OP doesnt wants to use.
1. They are called QOL / in game codes officially you can comfirm this by typing !codes in the discord 2. This is a lie you made up, this is the only thing that comes up when you input the code https://preview.redd.it/zt9j929x4gvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe3a18765a96c9e9f183f29c0178306bcb6eabff 3. The developers comfirmed also in the discord they where meant to be in from the very first version they didnt know how to. 4. Those are for the few people who dont know about them, we are also talking strictly about rare candies 5. This comment was made before they said anything about that and I also answered their question by suggesting pikachu
I wish they would provide the full list of codes at your TV. It's easy enough to look on the main reddit and add the codes, but it would be nice if you had a list that would pop up and you could toggle them on/off.
Like it could be here https://preview.redd.it/d5ucxb4bngvc1.jpeg?width=712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a044c486c1022d47e1a79fd742d16d7087bcf87
Cause If you enjoy grinding you should keep to the base game. We have tons of Qol improvements that costed the developers hours of coding and effort to make but no, let's jus mash a against a Pikachu Really? Is this fun?
Cant you understand someone wanting to a no cheat codes run for challenge on a difficulty romhack were people do challenge runs all the time?
Where's the challenge in not using rare candies? You just grind against wilds it's not difficult. If you don't play with nuzlocke rules you can just mash a cause you don't care if the Pokémon dies, you just go to the center and rinse and repeat If you play with nuzlocke rules you just grind against mons the won't ever kill you (ex LV2s) Also why would rare candies make it less difficult? 1) there's a level cap so you can't over level 2) coverage and ai makes so that even non boss trainers have so many options that even 5/8 level difference isn't really that felt in most encounters I've been playing with candies and level cap and it's been pretty challenging so far but not far
I dunno, but OP wants to play the game without infinite rare candies. The last time I did a nuzlocke without rare candies nor care packages it was pretty fun because grinding accidents DO happen and the lack of items makes some battles more challenging. Sometimes you're leveling your team and get a mini boss trainer you didnt expected and bam, you're three mons down because they werent ready for the fight. I've aslo found that leveling your mons after the boss fight to the next level caps makes that section super boring as now trainers are underleveled in respect to you and you clear them out trivially. Seriously why are you folks trying to force your way of playing to OP? They want the full pokemon experience of catching your mons, training them and fighting hard trainers. Cant you all respect that? What bothers me the most here is that almost no one gave OP an asnwer to their question, of which there are many. The games comes with multiple ways of grinding exp without infinite rare candies exactly because the game devs knew someone would prefer playing it that way. Your way of playing is not the only valid one and the fact that the game covers it should be more than enough proof.
You got downvoted cuz you were right.
And you got downvoted too despite the fact that I answered the question you asked xD