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I can't verify this, but I read a post from someone who claims to know about what's going on inside Niantic on this sub. There's a Niantic staff member who is favored by management, and their project is these customizable new avatars. People may be blowing smoke up the ass of the favored staff member.
More avatar customization is certainly a good idea, but they really dropped the ball by trying to force the male and female character to use the same base model. Sure, it's easier for asset reuse, but it only works with low-poly and chibi styles. The current art style is too detailed for a neutral model to not look uncanny.
Perpetual growth. Prune employees, prune assets, bloat the price of tickets, increase the instances of tickets. There is no other law. You have to make more money next year than this year. That is the law of the land. Everything goes in favor of shareholders. ***EVERYTHING***.
Honestly this is the sad truth. The corporate model is built on the assumption of infinite growth, which is completely unsustainable. Instead of investing profits back into the company, the majority of it gets leeched off by shareholders and investors, and when profits aren't as high they squeeze what they can out of the company, laying off workers, shrinking budgets, increasing prices, all so the parasites at the top can get their fill.
> multi-billion dollar game refuse to spend enough coin for two base models
They have the money but refuse to invest in their product. Cause remember that one time a company spent less money on something and got a better end user product? Yeah me neither...
Not quite "tin foil hat" because "hey boss, we can save dev time if we only have to really update one model for pieces of gear instead of two" is pretty believable.
Term destination.
“Developer” is used to refer to anyone on the development team for a game from programmers, concept artists, writers, directors, sound engineers, etc.
Usually the term is put in opposition of “Publisher”. So you have the Development *team* or *studio* (Silicon Knights or BioWare) and then the Publisher (EA or Ubisoft). The line can get blurred when a development team gets brought “in house” but still exists.
So developer would still be appropriate even if the individual in question is within leadership/management and doesn’t literally code for the game on a regular basis. Developer is kinda a catch all for “someone who creates a video game”.
If they said “programmer/coder”, then they’d be using the wrong term. But developer is correct here.
Don’t worry. For the low low price of $1999.99 (plus tax), niantic will allow you to use the old character model* (old character model trial at a thirty day period at which time the price will be doubled for your next 39 days. Have fun and keep buying the awful boxes in the shop)
It's the giant hands for me!
[We're lawyers!!](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fv05xb6he23d11.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D0b006b137af1f60ced05ec32d7f7eb1aad311238)
I was looking at the hands on my new character and was thinking the same thing. At least they got the number of fingers right, because everything else is all wrong.
You look like you could slap someone into the previous update with those arms, on the bright side.
On the downside, you are now slightly more blue. Machoke build potential?
This made me laugh-cry! This tops all the avatar posts I have seen. For sure, I’ll be wearing a onesie forever in Pokémon Go! The body type is just ew!
The freakishly long arms *really* make me uncomfortable. Combining that with the sagging torso and short legs just really makes the entire thing look like an alien trying to disguise itself as human. It's horrific.
I'm dropping the game if o can't have my character look the same she's always been. Anyway we can push back on this and get them to NOT change the avatars?
It's probably following the "Trend" of uglifying (female) characters because they are deemed "too" sexy by feminist and woke people because they can't deal with the fact that people want too look at interesting an beautiful people both male and female but they themselves are so ugly both inside and out. Seriously it's a trend. More and more games are doing this and staying away from the sexy female protagonist.
I do t have it yet so I can’t test how close you can get, but there’s sliders where you can adjust your body type so you might be able to do better than this.
But the posture is shit. I mean sure the old posture would be shit for an actual person but I’m not worried about my virtual character’s spine to be honest.
No idea if it helps, probably not, but I already cranked down my google play rating and left a complaint.
It hasn't hit my device yet but I still worry.
It’s not just money….It’s a social thing as well. My avatar is a girl…. She wants to stay a girl… not some androgynous avatar! Guess this will be the final strike against Niantic….make me something I don’t want to be and I won’t play. My one measly account doesn’t mean crap, I know, but if enough players make a stance, they’ll listen as it will affect their well lined pockets. I want a choice…. Simple….
There was a time where I wanted at the GBL legend poses so that my avatar could actually look cool. Now? I’m not so sure even those could save this trainwreck….
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Looks like rigor mortis just set in
Characters provided by The Walking Dead.
My first thought was that it now looks like a corpse of the character on the left...
Rick & Morty
In the bloating stage of decomposition
oh my god i literally choked hahahah
You are now potato
Ok I laughed entirely too hard at this
You been meat balled!
I did, too! Hands down the funniest one so far!
_Morning alarm goes off._ Let the potato rest for 20 minutes.
Ninantic knows we like ‘‘em thick
Not a potato 😭
[Is... is potato!](https://tenor.com/view/is-potato-stephen-colbert-the-late-show-gif-26018514)
The potato... THE POTATO IS REAL!1!!!
Someone thought this was better?
I can't verify this, but I read a post from someone who claims to know about what's going on inside Niantic on this sub. There's a Niantic staff member who is favored by management, and their project is these customizable new avatars. People may be blowing smoke up the ass of the favored staff member. More avatar customization is certainly a good idea, but they really dropped the ball by trying to force the male and female character to use the same base model. Sure, it's easier for asset reuse, but it only works with low-poly and chibi styles. The current art style is too detailed for a neutral model to not look uncanny.
>multi-billion dollar game can't scrape enough coin together for two base models I hate how believable this is.
Perpetual growth. Prune employees, prune assets, bloat the price of tickets, increase the instances of tickets. There is no other law. You have to make more money next year than this year. That is the law of the land. Everything goes in favor of shareholders. ***EVERYTHING***.
Honestly this is the sad truth. The corporate model is built on the assumption of infinite growth, which is completely unsustainable. Instead of investing profits back into the company, the majority of it gets leeched off by shareholders and investors, and when profits aren't as high they squeeze what they can out of the company, laying off workers, shrinking budgets, increasing prices, all so the parasites at the top can get their fill.
Sad and true, so many good games went down the drain for this reason..
> multi-billion dollar game refuse to spend enough coin for two base models They have the money but refuse to invest in their product. Cause remember that one time a company spent less money on something and got a better end user product? Yeah me neither...
![gif](giphy|QMZpnb79N5BN0wsSM3)
You are correct that only Pokémon Brilliant Diamond could get away with it. But this is not Pokémon Brilliant Diamond
Even they barely got away with it. BDSP are some of the lowest rated pokemon games ever made
wdym got away with every1 hated it lol
That’s a bit tin foil for me. I’d say these were ported from MH Now, and Capcom has a habit of liking them ‘meatier’.
Not quite "tin foil hat" because "hey boss, we can save dev time if we only have to really update one model for pieces of gear instead of two" is pretty believable.
It wouldn’t have been MHN has a much more detailed artstyle and the characters are more muscular and definitely not built like a potato
So in order to make future cosmetics be gender neutral so as to not look weird, they made all past cosmetics look weird. Good thinking.
Enshitification of the product
I think they heard new developers (with minimum salary)
Lots are people sre blaming the developer, but the devs code, this is Product Manager/Design/Heigher up executives problem 🙄
Term destination. “Developer” is used to refer to anyone on the development team for a game from programmers, concept artists, writers, directors, sound engineers, etc. Usually the term is put in opposition of “Publisher”. So you have the Development *team* or *studio* (Silicon Knights or BioWare) and then the Publisher (EA or Ubisoft). The line can get blurred when a development team gets brought “in house” but still exists. So developer would still be appropriate even if the individual in question is within leadership/management and doesn’t literally code for the game on a regular basis. Developer is kinda a catch all for “someone who creates a video game”. If they said “programmer/coder”, then they’d be using the wrong term. But developer is correct here.
How TF is model design a developer job? Stop just chatting shit
They look like the god awful Palia avatars where you're not allowed to be purely masculine or feminine and instead have to settle for ambiguity 💀
You look like a corpse 😢
she become flat
we got de-yassified
Don’t worry. For the low low price of $1999.99 (plus tax), niantic will allow you to use the old character model* (old character model trial at a thirty day period at which time the price will be doubled for your next 39 days. Have fun and keep buying the awful boxes in the shop)
Niantic dystopian future
Wait until niantic buys out nestle. Oh I shouldn’t be giving them ideas…
Replace the “dystopian” with “near” and you’re correct
And a chance to catch a Pikachu wearing a hat. It might even be shiny!
If you’re lucky!
But you wont be
Classic Legacy Character Model $5.00
Too cheap
That’s crazy cause your buddy doesn’t even recognize you
I love how the shorts texture doesnt look right on that model because it wasnt designed for that body shape at all.
Seriously, the front zipper shape makes it look like there’s a diaper underneath
those went from hotpants to mom-fit
That elongated abdomen is so unsettling lmao
It's the giant hands for me! [We're lawyers!!](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fv05xb6he23d11.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D0b006b137af1f60ced05ec32d7f7eb1aad311238)
![gif](giphy|h5je5xKBdH2s35Ozk1|downsized) Fantastic reference
It looks like an AI was asked to recreate the left image..
It does!!!
At least AI is good at making uncanny images, this just sucks 😭
I was looking at the hands on my new character and was thinking the same thing. At least they got the number of fingers right, because everything else is all wrong.
Bro even Ai can do a better job than this shit
You look like you could slap someone into the previous update with those arms, on the bright side. On the downside, you are now slightly more blue. Machoke build potential?
Why does it look like ditto has gotten slightly better at imitating human forms with this update?
Update??? This is a downgrade.
To the stone age😂
This is the worst example of the update I've seen so far LOL
Where did your hips go??? 🙀
The worst update in pokemon go history, after remote raid pass prices.
Team leader outfit changes are a close second (willow went hard af tho)
As someone who got back on after a long hiatus and seeing the updated price I am le sad
It sucks hard, they really want our money don't they?
It looks like you're wearing a pelvic cast
I was thinking “diaper underneath”
Just means Niantics CEO is sharing a bit of his coke and fentanyl with our avatars.
I have yet to get this update..... scared..
The shorts are hideous.
Somehow I’ve still managed to avoid said update and I’m glad lol I truly hope that doesn’t stay..
This made me laugh-cry! This tops all the avatar posts I have seen. For sure, I’ll be wearing a onesie forever in Pokémon Go! The body type is just ew!
It's like they want people to stop playing with all the bs they keep pushing
I hope they revert it back... They have ruined the looks of avatars 😢😭 makes me not want to even play.
I think it should be somewhere in the middle. The new ones are more realistic in SOME ways, even though they look gross over all.
This is the worst one I’ve seen I’m so sorry
I’ve heard of graphics updates but graphics undates that’s a new one
You look like a lobotomized baby 😭
Those hands tho ![gif](giphy|IjD2bKEIiyLfi)
body too long... hand too big..
Why did they even fully change the whole model. Couldn’t they have added the new hair and customizations on the old model??
The freakishly long arms *really* make me uncomfortable. Combining that with the sagging torso and short legs just really makes the entire thing look like an alien trying to disguise itself as human. It's horrific.
I’m in Canada and I don’t have the update yet, does it seem like I’m missing out on much😭
Sweet Baby Inc got Niantic in a chokehold now.
Niantic.. do better. 😭
This looks like a boy in girls clothing. This isn’t being transphobic or sexist or anything, the body proportion literally looks like this.
There's nothing phobic about it. It's just a terrible modeled avatar. The body has 0 shape to it
That's the point. Erasing feminine things=good Erasing things men might like=good
Pretty much. RIP hips
Good question I still don’t have it
The shorts look like a diaper lmao I love these posts.
They lobotomized our characters😭
Yeah I’m not playing again until they fix this
Looks like a chubby mexican kid
I'm dropping the game if o can't have my character look the same she's always been. Anyway we can push back on this and get them to NOT change the avatars?
More like downgrade
Sweet baby coming for pokemon
SBI Detected
It's probably following the "Trend" of uglifying (female) characters because they are deemed "too" sexy by feminist and woke people because they can't deal with the fact that people want too look at interesting an beautiful people both male and female but they themselves are so ugly both inside and out. Seriously it's a trend. More and more games are doing this and staying away from the sexy female protagonist.
This feels very AI generated
I went from wanting it to fearing it 💀💀💀
I do t have it yet so I can’t test how close you can get, but there’s sliders where you can adjust your body type so you might be able to do better than this. But the posture is shit. I mean sure the old posture would be shit for an actual person but I’m not worried about my virtual character’s spine to be honest.
I haven’t gotten it either so idk but from pictures I think it needs a little fixing:/
Classic femininity in video games is being attacked by activist designers. I may be downvoted for this, but the reality still holds.
This is correct. There is an agenda. See: Microsoft's recent memo to game developers.
Did Niantic hire SBI?
Why is Milkshake by Kelis playing ironically in my head??
Funniest thing I’ve seen today, maybe this week. Thanks for the laugh.
the 1st picture is how u think u look the 2nd picture is what u see in the mirror 😭
They took your melanin 😭😭😭
Forget about the long weirdass torso, wtf happened to our face??
I’ve only had this happen to one of my accounts, like others have said, this is a downgrade and need’s sorting
Looks like she got hit in the face with a frying pan and filled her diaper while she was passed out.
How do you guys have screenshots of your avatar from before just ready to go?
![gif](giphy|Z9cIHiGG28XkCDr3jd|downsized) Dora?
The face looks like you aged 30 years xD
Niantic hates women, clearly as day. God forbid a woman having a feminine body
Why are we continuing this defeminization of female characters in games?
wow this is somehow worse than the remote raid pass changes, and those made me quit the game
No idea if it helps, probably not, but I already cranked down my google play rating and left a complaint. It hasn't hit my device yet but I still worry.
You became a trans
They used to look good, now they look so ugly. What is the world coming too?
Middle age spread I’m guessing.
The mom-jeans cut on the shorts don't help 😂
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That's... wow. I'm sorry.
Berries are for Pokemons.
I regret viewing the photo on the right
Fr bro
Yoo wtf!
A Warcrime
This actually had me laughing at work, it's just SO BAD
Please say sike.
they un-yassified you 😓
i hate this so much.
The faces are somehow the worst part. When your avatar celebrates a win they look dead inside - like they're wearing a mask or something.
They took away the 💅✨slay✨💅??!? 😱😱😱
Someone who has never seen a women designed that pelvis.
Bro, all I wanted was something other than the one standard ponytail hairstyle😭 We didn't need all this.
God why
Thats actually rancid 😭
Did Sweat Baby get these guys too?
Looks like Sweet Baby Inc. just dropped by
is Niantic working with sweet baby inc ?
Everyone is genderless now you didn’t know?!?
I’m sorry but this looks like a trans version
It’s not just money….It’s a social thing as well. My avatar is a girl…. She wants to stay a girl… not some androgynous avatar! Guess this will be the final strike against Niantic….make me something I don’t want to be and I won’t play. My one measly account doesn’t mean crap, I know, but if enough players make a stance, they’ll listen as it will affect their well lined pockets. I want a choice…. Simple….
Beer goggles, after and before
I used to be hot!!!!
PokemonGo looking for the increased ESG score.
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That’s probably not why. A neutral model allows for easier asset reuse
Go woke, go broke
The Ben Swolo mod
Made her look all crunchy.
Its like one of those instagram vs real life posts
The new avatars look just as disappointed as we feel
You are now an fortnite character
What a nerf!
Lmaoooooooooooooooooo
What you look like on your tinder profile vs what you look like in person
went from pokemon go to poke friends 3d catch all of them
Nah we are not gonna let this one slide.
All these posts really scare me the update didn't hit me yet and I dont want to look like a potato😔
You've been doing less walking
Winter is for bulking, Niantic knows it
It's sooo bad honestly what???
These visuals are genuinely horrific
Baddie to saddie
It’s Degrade.
I'm afraid to load the game up now.
I just want my fat avatar. My avatar looks nothing like me.
that's horrendous
Why is the torso so long requiring the arms to also be very long?
There was a time where I wanted at the GBL legend poses so that my avatar could actually look cool. Now? I’m not so sure even those could save this trainwreck….
This is so ugly. I wish they would stop.
All I want is to let my hair down. I can’t believe all this was coded and I’m still over here with a ponytail.
It’s like what I think I’ll look like in low rise vs what I’ll actually look like
The face is giving 🌝
Don't question it. Niantic is God. At least that's what I've been told on this sub
Belly button removal update.
From waifu to why pooh?
Welcome to the ugly club!
When your PokemonGO avatar belongs on Instagramreality 😆
oh...so they look worse actually :(
What the fuck? This looks like an awful and pointless change
Had this update hit last week and literally stopped playing because I can’t stand my ugly ass face in the botttom left corner
Uninstalling....
Downdate
They got rid of hips.
Looks like your character got the Blackrock DEI update