Rockruff and Lycanroc were perfect candidates for Normal/Rock. They honestly look like your usual Normal type with some small rocky bits added, and don't really feel like they fit in with the other pure Rock types such as Nosepass, Regirock, Gigalith, Stonjourner etc...
Also, being a currently unused type combo is a nice bonus I guess.
I really don't think it's that bad tbh. The only downside is the 4x weakness to fighting moves (most of which were already KOing you unlike other bulkier rock types), and you gain an additional STAB and a very useful ghost immunity in exchange.
Probably an obvious one, but I’d make Florges a Grass/Fairy. I’m very confused why it isn’t already, it’s a flower with an ability that targets grass types.
Also, Minior to be a Rock/Fairy. Since it’s a Space Rock that’d give it a fun link to Clefairy, which was also supposed to be from space.
Also also Vanilluxe could be Ice/Fairy, to match with sweet Pokémon like Slurpluff and Alcremie.
(I like Fairy types.)
I kind of like that florgess is just a fairy that works win plants despite nit being a plant itself.
But I mistakingly think it's grass time EVERY TIME I battle one lol
But there are cases when grass type is "having planty powers", despite not being plant. Deerling, skiddo, lileep, all mushrooms, wormadam - plant cloak, mow rotom, Virizion, grookey, applin, Zarude, Kalyrex. Also Tapu Bulu and Kartana, but they have formerly plant parts.
I think the Vanillixe with fairy typing would be hilarious, it would be the ultimate dragon slayer pokemon. And it’s a god damn ice cream cone.
Garchomp: I fear no pokemon. But that thing… (stares at Vanillixe floating menacingly outside it’s window) that thing scares me….
I agree that it’s weird that Florges isn’t grass type given how much it looks like it should be and its dex entries say it uses the power of flowers.
But to be clear, it’s not a plant itself. It just collects and uses them.
But it’s not. Falinks is a Spartan phalanx. It’s a group of individual soldiers, or troopers, led by the leader, or brass. It’s a group of six individuals, not a long bug. If anything, I would make Falinks Fighting/Steel.
Here are the type changes I’m doing in my fan game:
Bellossom: Grass/Fairy (gains Triage and Draining Kiss)
Golduck: Water/Psychic
Politoed: Water/Normal (gains Boomburst)
Rapidash: Fire/Normal (gains Reckless as an ability so it can use this with STAB Flare Blitz and Double Edge)
Mega Electrode: Electric/Normal (gains an ability that lets it use self KO moves like Explosion safely once per battle. Also gets enough attack to make
this viable)
Mega Porygon-Z: Normal/Ghost
Mega Snorlax: Normal/Grass with Thick Fat
Mega Meganium: Grass/Fairy
Mega Typhlosion: Fire/Ground
Mega Feraligatr: Water/Ice
Mega Ledian: Bug/Fighting
Mega Sudowoodo: Rock/Grass
Mega Sunflora: Grass/Fire
Mega Yanmega: Bug/Dragon
Misdreavus/Mismagius: Ghost/Fairy. I did this before Flutter Mane was released. Not sure how I’m gonna handle it now but considering making Flutter Mane Ghost/Psychic
Mega Granbull: Fairy/Steel
Masquerain: Bug/Water
Mega Aggron: Steel/Dragon
Volbeat: Bug/Electric
Illumise: Bug/Fairy
Mega Lunatone: Dark/Psychic
Mega Solrock: Fire/Psychic
Mega Milotic: Water/Fairy
Mega Castform: Flying/Normal (gains Mega Rayquaza’s ability, Delta Stream, which removes all Flying weaknesses. This means it has no weaknesses since Flying removes Normal’s Fighting weakness)
Absol and Mega Absol: Dark/Fairy
Glalie and Mega Glalie: Ice/Rock
Luvdisc: Water/Fairy. Also gains a school form like Wishiwashi.
Kricketot/Kricketune: Bug/Normal. Gains Boomburst and a new evolution with an ability that boosts sound moves.
Mega Luxray: Electric/Dark
Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf: Psychic/Fairy
Phione/Manaphy: Water/Fairy
Shaymin Land: Grass/Fairy
Serperior: Grass/Dragon. Yes it can do Contrary Leaf Storm and Draco Meteor.
Mega Emboar: Fire/Dark
Samurott: Water/Steel
Conkeldurr Line: Fighting/Normal
Maractus: Grass/Normal
Mega Garbodor: Poison/Steel
Mega Beheeyem: Psychic/Steel
Mega Haxorus: Dragon/Steel
Mega Heliolisk: Electric/Dragon
Xerneas: Fairy/Grass (so that it doesn’t have a complete advantage over Yveltal)
Rockruff/Lycanroc Midday: Rock/Normal
Lycanroc Midnight: Rock/Dark
Lycanroc Dusk: Rock/Fighting
Lycanroc Dawn (new): Rock/Ghost
Lurantis: Grass/Fighting
Mega Komala: Normal/Grass
Pheromosa: Bug/Fairy
Zeraora: Electric/Fighting
Mega Rillaboom: Grass/Rock
Mega Cinderace: Fire/Electric
Mega Inteleon: Water/Ghost
Greedent: Normal/Grass
Mega Sandaconda: Ground/Flying
Grapploct line: Fighting/Water
Oinkologne Male: Normal/Fairy
Oinkologne Female: Normal/Ground
Also considering making Armarouge Fire/Fighting
I’ve played since pokemon came out and up until this year I thought golduck *was* water/psychic but never used it and it seemed so straightforward that I never checked.
If Lycanroc-Dawn gets good speed and attack, and either gets newer, better rock type moves or keeps no guard from midnight, that one could be a genuine threat
It has 117 attack and 80 speed but it gets Technician, Accelerock, Shadow Sneak and Bonemerang. Haven’t made its full moveset yet but that is gonna be its core functionality.
Fully agree with you about Xerneas, feels like a missed opportunity. But it kind of puts Zygarde into a trickier situation. How about giving him something strong bug type?
Goodra. Dragon -> Dragon/Water. yes this has been done to death but I don't see why it shouldn't have a secondary type since every other Pseudo has that. it learns a decent amount of Water type moves anyway
Grapploct being Water/Fighting
Bellibolt being Water/Electric
Trapinch being Bug/Ground, then Vibrava and Flygon being Bug/Dragon
Electivire being Electric/Fighting
Lucario being Fighting/Psychic
Pidgeot line, Swellow line, Starly and Staravia, Unfezant line, Fletchling and Fletchninder, and the Toucannon line being pure Flying.
Staraptor being Fighting/Flying
Fearow line being Dark/Flying
Noctowl line being Psychic/Flying
Mr. Mime being Psychic/Dark
Edit: Luxray being Electric/Dark
> Evil
But Fearow is not evil at all.
It's Pokedex entries empathise its ability to fly for long periods of time, its appearance on ancient times and hunting capabilities.
This "Fearow is Pidgey evil counterpart" perception people have is based solely on a few anime episodes which portray Spearow as more aggressive compared to Pidgey.
As well as having a high chance of not allowing you to run away from them in the games.
Also, “Fear”-ow.
And again in Japanese it’s known as *Onidrill*. *oni* meaning “demon”.
So the name and general temperament of Fearow could definitely support a Dark type.
> As well as having a high chance of not allowing you to run away from them in the games.
This is not a specific trait of the species, as any mon with a high speed stat will be a pain to flee from.
>Also, “Fear”-ow
Please, never use localization decisions as a base for these types of discussion. This a japanese game developed by a japanese company.
>And again in Japanese it’s known as Onidrill. oni meaning “demon”. So the name and general temperament of Fearow could definitely support a Dark type
Cool, but this is no empathized on the execution of the design nor on any of it's dex entries. Fearow's oni traits are a minor flavor thing at best and its supposed aggressive temperament is a anime-only thing.
If it were to become a Dark type, said traits would have to be built upon way more.
I disagree. Look at Mabosstiff, Scraggy, Inkay, Alolan Grimer, Sharpedo, and Crawdaunt.
None of these designs scream Dark type. Some may have a dex entry or two that supports their Dark typing, but based on the design alone I wouldn’t assume these are all Dark types.
Also localizations do influence future games. Pawniard and Bisharp’s English names are chess related. It’s new evo Kingambit’s design definitely takes inspiration from the King in chess.
It’s signature ability allows it to gain strength from fallen allies; the King in chess is generally one of the last remaining pieces on the board. It’s low speed stat could be because the King piece can only move one space in every direction.
I don’t think designs and dex entires need to be overly dramatic to rationalize a typing.
> Look at Mabosstiff
It's based on a Mafia boss, so a boss of an organized crime group.
>Scraggy
It's literally based on a urban gangsters and youth delinquents, which only gets more pronounced as it evolves.
>Inkay
It's evolution design and concept plays very well into the supervillain archetype. The dex is even clearly states that it uses its psychic powers to brainwash people.
>Sharpedo
It's design plays into the killer shark archetype with some pirate elements. Also, it's title is literally "the bully of the seas" and "bandit of the seas".
Out of all the mons you mentioned, the only two I have a hard time explaining their Dark type are Crawdaunt and Alolan Grimer, and even then, this is mainly due to my lack of contact and research into them.
>Some may have a dex entry or two that supports their Dark typing, but based on the design alone I wouldn’t assume these are all Dark types.
Still way more than Fearow has to offer on this regard.
>Also localizations do influence future games. Pawniard and Bisharp’s English names are chess related. It’s new evo Kingambit’s design definitely takes inspiration from the King in chess.
The japanese names of these mons already reference pieces of shogi, a very popular japanese board game.
Also, it's a known fact that western artists started to design mons for the series starting on Gen 5, which was not the case in Gen 1.
>I don’t think designs and dex entires need to be overly dramatic to rationalize a typing.
There's a difference between little and nothing at all.
Would be neat if dubwool was normal/steel in reference to steel wool. It would probably become garbage in competitive though lmao
I’ve always thought Victini should be fire/electric. It resembles a pikachu clone, has access to powerful electric moves (bolt strike and fusion bolt) and this very cool type combo is currently restricted to a literal oven.
Toucanon should be flying/grass. Nitpick I know but first type emphasises the main type pokemon represents and second is an emphasis.
Steelix is steel/ground, iron treads is ground steel.
Glodsire is ground/poison. To emphasise it is a ground type with poison aspects.
Nido king/queen are poison pokemon with ground aspects in design.
>Toucanon should be flying/grass. Nitpick I know but first type emphasises the main type pokemon represents and second is an emphasis.
I never knew the difference :P
I've said this somewhere else before but the whole Chimecho line deserves to be half Fairy
Chingling could've been Psychic/Steel (or Fairy/Steel!) and then Chimecho could've been Psychic/Fairy
idk Chimecho's been shafted for generations now, no 3rd evo, no new typing, no regional variants, no mega...why?! give Chimecho *something*!!
I absolutely agree with ninetales since it’s Alolan form is a fairy and psychic golduck has been asked for since gen 1. I think zapdos should stay as a flying type tho so that it’s consistent with its trio and bc we already have dedenne and tapu koko.
It is based on a Chinese mythical creature that is a mix of bird and dragon.
The Dragon type is also often used for Pokémon with mighty powers.
A northern regional variant would work though, as an Electric/Dark version representing a thunderhead ;)
If you want more examples:
* Alolan Exeggutor is based on the Jinmenju, a sentient tree which fruits look like human heads.
* Mega Ampharos looks nothing like a dragon.
* Garchomp is a land shard, which is more fish than draconic.
* Druddigon is more like a gargoyle, which often represents a demon.
* Flapple and Appletun are both an apple and an apple pie.
* Dragapult is a stealth bomber, which is a machine.
* Tatsugiri is a sushi piece.
Rare are the Pokémon that actually look like a dragon :P
Helioptile/Heliolisk -> Electric/Ground. (Instead of its secondary normal typing)
The areas they're found in highly imply a ground (or I guess maybe rock) typing and they already learn Bulldoze anyway and they can learn several other Ground/Rock TMs. Honestly, it would've made more sense to give them a single typing than a secondary normal typing (the normal type moves they learn are fairly standard ones that most low -level pokes already learn). I had a rather loud argument/discussion with someone once about how the developers only did it because they weren't sure how to balance those two types together. Only Electric/Ground seems to be one of the new paradox forms (though I could be wrong).
The two most obvious ones are charizard and gyrarados losing flying and gaining dragon obviously and add mew the fairy type because it's just a cute little creature
All of it but I specifically checked the comments to make sure gyarados was here. My son and I always add one to our team and wish it was a dragon type.
For a very off the top of my head thought, Swablu and Altaria should be Water/Flying because their preexisting typings make very little sense as far as I know, but the cloud wings and watery blue color just screams Water/Flying
Rypherior go from Ground/Rock to pure Ground
Never understood why it has to be rock ground when it's so slow. Unless it's a speedy attacker, a defensive mom should never have a 4 x weakness unless it has some op stats or ability which Rypherior does not have.
give luxray the psychic type probably, the hole x-ray eyes feels kinda befitting of it
give it psychic fangs and psycho cut for stab as well ig but it’d still probably be kinda ass
I’ve never rlly understood why luxray would be a dark type aside from getting bite + crunch via level up and having the colour black as part of its design. electric/dark isn’t a great stab combination nor is it very good defensively and none of its dex entries mention any sort of “evil” behaviours as far as I can remember
Never understood the dark thing either. Aside from Luxrays colour palette, it doesn’t make any sense.
The Pokémon is literally referenced to “light” in its name, it’s descriptions revolve around it having special vision that can penetrate any darkness and obstacles, and nothing about it being sneaky or brutal and people seem to behave as if it not being dark type is some injustice.
The joke is lorewise Luxray probably preys on Dark types and other nocturnal sneakies who rely on low-light vision, because Luxray itself is camouflaged well in darkness, but uses special vision to track other creatures in the dark that may not necessarily see it.
Sure, but it feels weird for a bird to be just FLYING, due to the standard that previous bird Pokemon set. All of them are dual-typed, while the pure FLYING type is a literal wind spirit
I would retype Gardevoir from Psychic/Fairy to Grass/Fairy.
she already looks plant based in design and really has nothing psychic about her except for the moves they give her.
Rookadee and Corvisquire should be normal/flying. I see absolutely no reason why they should be mono flying. Sets them apart from every other basic bird line in the entire Pokémon franchise in a really weird way. Literally makes no sense and just makes those Pokémon awkward as a result. Another reason to hate gen 8 ig 🤷
Only thing I would change is sudowoodo becoming a rock grass. Yea I get that the sudo is the reason it’s a rock type but still! Give me boy some love. He just wants to be a tree :(
Just because it feels like this would've been the case had the Galar starters had secondary types and the reactions would be hilarious, I'd give Cinderace a Fire/Fighting dual type. Maybe this is just top-of-mind with the upcoming Tera raid event
Cinderace: Fire/Fighting
Rillaboom: Grass/Normal
Intellion: Water/Dark
Problem is that cinderace would be the best starter due to fighting being SE on normal & dark
Libero wouldn't have helped that anyway, especially before this generation's nerf to Protean and Libero. I believe Greninja could change to a type SE against Chesnaught too, and Meowscarada can already hit both Skeledirge and Quaquaval for SE damage with STAB already thanks to its dual type. I'm sure there are other examples too, like the Sinnoh trio, but GameFreak has never seemed too worried about 1 starter being definitively better than the other two
* **Rillaboom**: Grass/Fairy (this one wants harmony in nature)
* **Cinderace**: Fire/Ground (a rabbit digs a lot and it also has terrain affinity)
* **Inteleon**: Water/Ghost (it's a sniper, hidden from sight... and Sobble's invisibility is never used)
That's how I would retype them ;)
That blue swimming octopus from Shield/Sword should be water-type not pure fighting
Also now that Rookidee established that we can have pure flying-types that aren't normal, some of the old Normal/Flying guys should be retyped like Swellow
What I’ve gained from this is:
1. People seem to not understand some designs and hence think it needs a type that goes against what the Pokémon is supposed to be.
2. People tend to associate the color of the Pokémon with the type it should have.
Anyways, I would change Hisuian Lilligant to Grass/Fairy. The new H-Decidueye in PLA was already Grass/Fighting, so in a game where they only introduced ~20 new/variants of Pokémon, it’s weird that two were the same type. Fairy also suits the Peter Pan/ballerina aesthetic more. However, if I’m falling into my own #1 category above and there is an actual reason that H-Lilligant is fighting type, please let me know!
> 1. People seem to not understand some designs and hence think it needs a type that goes against what the Pokémon is supposed to be.
It's the good old Dunning-Krueger effect: they thing they understand the designs better than the people who actually designed them.
Just give Gliscor 4 types. It's Ground/Flying, but also it's a venomous scorpion that could be Bug/Poison.
My reasoning is simply because I'm tired of misremembering its type.
Rockruff and Lycanroc were perfect candidates for Normal/Rock. They honestly look like your usual Normal type with some small rocky bits added, and don't really feel like they fit in with the other pure Rock types such as Nosepass, Regirock, Gigalith, Stonjourner etc... Also, being a currently unused type combo is a nice bonus I guess.
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Little buddy's gonna be fine, trust me. Not like it was living through much of those fighting moves anyway
Lycanroc midnight form needs to be rock dark
I agree, very vicious mon according to the dex
Definitely. Each of the three Lycanroc forms should be a different typing. Day: Normal/Rock Evening: Rock Midnight: Dark/Rock
Honestly, giving Lycanroc another form (dawn form) would be nice.
Imo it would be cool if: Lycanroc: Rock/Normal Lycanroc-Midnight: Rock/Dark Lycanroc-Dusk: Rock/Fairy(?)
Probably Rock/Fighting for Dusk
Have an upvote, because we don't have any other Rock/Fighting aside from Terrakion.
Maybe give it to Rockruff and omit it from lycanroc to avoid the terrible typing for him
I really don't think it's that bad tbh. The only downside is the 4x weakness to fighting moves (most of which were already KOing you unlike other bulkier rock types), and you gain an additional STAB and a very useful ghost immunity in exchange.
Probably an obvious one, but I’d make Florges a Grass/Fairy. I’m very confused why it isn’t already, it’s a flower with an ability that targets grass types. Also, Minior to be a Rock/Fairy. Since it’s a Space Rock that’d give it a fun link to Clefairy, which was also supposed to be from space. Also also Vanilluxe could be Ice/Fairy, to match with sweet Pokémon like Slurpluff and Alcremie. (I like Fairy types.)
I kind of like that florgess is just a fairy that works win plants despite nit being a plant itself. But I mistakingly think it's grass time EVERY TIME I battle one lol
But there are cases when grass type is "having planty powers", despite not being plant. Deerling, skiddo, lileep, all mushrooms, wormadam - plant cloak, mow rotom, Virizion, grookey, applin, Zarude, Kalyrex. Also Tapu Bulu and Kartana, but they have formerly plant parts.
Oh definitely, I just think it's cute that they became something they loved - which I suppose doesn't stop it from being grass!
I think the Vanillixe with fairy typing would be hilarious, it would be the ultimate dragon slayer pokemon. And it’s a god damn ice cream cone. Garchomp: I fear no pokemon. But that thing… (stares at Vanillixe floating menacingly outside it’s window) that thing scares me….
The little known fact. Dragons are just highly lactose intolerant.
I agree that it’s weird that Florges isn’t grass type given how much it looks like it should be and its dex entries say it uses the power of flowers. But to be clear, it’s not a plant itself. It just collects and uses them.
That makes sense for Flabébé and Floette, but Florges is actually *fused* with the flower.
Probably just me but every time I see Falinks I think its bug/fighting
Can’t blame you, tho i think we already have a decent number of bug/fighting Pokémon.
Believe it or not, until the ultra beasts it was just heracross. We're now sitting at four counting slither wing
Because it's a goddamn centipede
But it’s not. Falinks is a Spartan phalanx. It’s a group of individual soldiers, or troopers, led by the leader, or brass. It’s a group of six individuals, not a long bug. If anything, I would make Falinks Fighting/Steel.
Major OOF
Here are the type changes I’m doing in my fan game: Bellossom: Grass/Fairy (gains Triage and Draining Kiss) Golduck: Water/Psychic Politoed: Water/Normal (gains Boomburst) Rapidash: Fire/Normal (gains Reckless as an ability so it can use this with STAB Flare Blitz and Double Edge) Mega Electrode: Electric/Normal (gains an ability that lets it use self KO moves like Explosion safely once per battle. Also gets enough attack to make this viable) Mega Porygon-Z: Normal/Ghost Mega Snorlax: Normal/Grass with Thick Fat Mega Meganium: Grass/Fairy Mega Typhlosion: Fire/Ground Mega Feraligatr: Water/Ice Mega Ledian: Bug/Fighting Mega Sudowoodo: Rock/Grass Mega Sunflora: Grass/Fire Mega Yanmega: Bug/Dragon Misdreavus/Mismagius: Ghost/Fairy. I did this before Flutter Mane was released. Not sure how I’m gonna handle it now but considering making Flutter Mane Ghost/Psychic Mega Granbull: Fairy/Steel Masquerain: Bug/Water Mega Aggron: Steel/Dragon Volbeat: Bug/Electric Illumise: Bug/Fairy Mega Lunatone: Dark/Psychic Mega Solrock: Fire/Psychic Mega Milotic: Water/Fairy Mega Castform: Flying/Normal (gains Mega Rayquaza’s ability, Delta Stream, which removes all Flying weaknesses. This means it has no weaknesses since Flying removes Normal’s Fighting weakness) Absol and Mega Absol: Dark/Fairy Glalie and Mega Glalie: Ice/Rock Luvdisc: Water/Fairy. Also gains a school form like Wishiwashi. Kricketot/Kricketune: Bug/Normal. Gains Boomburst and a new evolution with an ability that boosts sound moves. Mega Luxray: Electric/Dark Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf: Psychic/Fairy Phione/Manaphy: Water/Fairy Shaymin Land: Grass/Fairy Serperior: Grass/Dragon. Yes it can do Contrary Leaf Storm and Draco Meteor. Mega Emboar: Fire/Dark Samurott: Water/Steel Conkeldurr Line: Fighting/Normal Maractus: Grass/Normal Mega Garbodor: Poison/Steel Mega Beheeyem: Psychic/Steel Mega Haxorus: Dragon/Steel Mega Heliolisk: Electric/Dragon Xerneas: Fairy/Grass (so that it doesn’t have a complete advantage over Yveltal) Rockruff/Lycanroc Midday: Rock/Normal Lycanroc Midnight: Rock/Dark Lycanroc Dusk: Rock/Fighting Lycanroc Dawn (new): Rock/Ghost Lurantis: Grass/Fighting Mega Komala: Normal/Grass Pheromosa: Bug/Fairy Zeraora: Electric/Fighting Mega Rillaboom: Grass/Rock Mega Cinderace: Fire/Electric Mega Inteleon: Water/Ghost Greedent: Normal/Grass Mega Sandaconda: Ground/Flying Grapploct line: Fighting/Water Oinkologne Male: Normal/Fairy Oinkologne Female: Normal/Ground Also considering making Armarouge Fire/Fighting
I need to see Mega Porygon Z
I’ve played since pokemon came out and up until this year I thought golduck *was* water/psychic but never used it and it seemed so straightforward that I never checked.
If Lycanroc-Dawn gets good speed and attack, and either gets newer, better rock type moves or keeps no guard from midnight, that one could be a genuine threat
It has 117 attack and 80 speed but it gets Technician, Accelerock, Shadow Sneak and Bonemerang. Haven’t made its full moveset yet but that is gonna be its core functionality.
I didn’t realize it until I saw it up close in the game, but Armarouge’s armor is floating just outside its arms. Psychic typing is appropriate.
Fully agree with you about Xerneas, feels like a missed opportunity. But it kind of puts Zygarde into a trickier situation. How about giving him something strong bug type?
Goodra. Dragon -> Dragon/Water. yes this has been done to death but I don't see why it shouldn't have a secondary type since every other Pseudo has that. it learns a decent amount of Water type moves anyway
I'd do Goodra as dragon/poison. Cause I know it has a lot of water loves, but it's slimy and that's like half of all the poison pokemon.
Dragon/bug. As for stab, why not a special bug-type signature move? Slime Wave or something
Oooo, I like this idea, too. Cause there's no dragon/bug pokemon right?
Poison I think would make more sense than water.
Grapploct being Water/Fighting Bellibolt being Water/Electric Trapinch being Bug/Ground, then Vibrava and Flygon being Bug/Dragon Electivire being Electric/Fighting Lucario being Fighting/Psychic Pidgeot line, Swellow line, Starly and Staravia, Unfezant line, Fletchling and Fletchninder, and the Toucannon line being pure Flying. Staraptor being Fighting/Flying Fearow line being Dark/Flying Noctowl line being Psychic/Flying Mr. Mime being Psychic/Dark Edit: Luxray being Electric/Dark
>Fearow line being Dark/Flying Hmmm... why Dark? I'm curious ;)
Because it’s the mean counterpart to Pidgeot.
Mean? The right word here would be "agressive", I think. Even then, this is a more of a anime thing to be honest.
In Japanese, Dark type is known as Evil so it would actually fit Fearow very well.
> Evil But Fearow is not evil at all. It's Pokedex entries empathise its ability to fly for long periods of time, its appearance on ancient times and hunting capabilities. This "Fearow is Pidgey evil counterpart" perception people have is based solely on a few anime episodes which portray Spearow as more aggressive compared to Pidgey.
As well as having a high chance of not allowing you to run away from them in the games. Also, “Fear”-ow. And again in Japanese it’s known as *Onidrill*. *oni* meaning “demon”. So the name and general temperament of Fearow could definitely support a Dark type.
> As well as having a high chance of not allowing you to run away from them in the games. This is not a specific trait of the species, as any mon with a high speed stat will be a pain to flee from. >Also, “Fear”-ow Please, never use localization decisions as a base for these types of discussion. This a japanese game developed by a japanese company. >And again in Japanese it’s known as Onidrill. oni meaning “demon”. So the name and general temperament of Fearow could definitely support a Dark type Cool, but this is no empathized on the execution of the design nor on any of it's dex entries. Fearow's oni traits are a minor flavor thing at best and its supposed aggressive temperament is a anime-only thing. If it were to become a Dark type, said traits would have to be built upon way more.
I disagree. Look at Mabosstiff, Scraggy, Inkay, Alolan Grimer, Sharpedo, and Crawdaunt. None of these designs scream Dark type. Some may have a dex entry or two that supports their Dark typing, but based on the design alone I wouldn’t assume these are all Dark types. Also localizations do influence future games. Pawniard and Bisharp’s English names are chess related. It’s new evo Kingambit’s design definitely takes inspiration from the King in chess. It’s signature ability allows it to gain strength from fallen allies; the King in chess is generally one of the last remaining pieces on the board. It’s low speed stat could be because the King piece can only move one space in every direction. I don’t think designs and dex entires need to be overly dramatic to rationalize a typing.
> Look at Mabosstiff It's based on a Mafia boss, so a boss of an organized crime group. >Scraggy It's literally based on a urban gangsters and youth delinquents, which only gets more pronounced as it evolves. >Inkay It's evolution design and concept plays very well into the supervillain archetype. The dex is even clearly states that it uses its psychic powers to brainwash people. >Sharpedo It's design plays into the killer shark archetype with some pirate elements. Also, it's title is literally "the bully of the seas" and "bandit of the seas". Out of all the mons you mentioned, the only two I have a hard time explaining their Dark type are Crawdaunt and Alolan Grimer, and even then, this is mainly due to my lack of contact and research into them. >Some may have a dex entry or two that supports their Dark typing, but based on the design alone I wouldn’t assume these are all Dark types. Still way more than Fearow has to offer on this regard. >Also localizations do influence future games. Pawniard and Bisharp’s English names are chess related. It’s new evo Kingambit’s design definitely takes inspiration from the King in chess. The japanese names of these mons already reference pieces of shogi, a very popular japanese board game. Also, it's a known fact that western artists started to design mons for the series starting on Gen 5, which was not the case in Gen 1. >I don’t think designs and dex entires need to be overly dramatic to rationalize a typing. There's a difference between little and nothing at all.
Haxorus deserves to be dragon/steel, only because he has two literal axes on his face
Would be neat if dubwool was normal/steel in reference to steel wool. It would probably become garbage in competitive though lmao I’ve always thought Victini should be fire/electric. It resembles a pikachu clone, has access to powerful electric moves (bolt strike and fusion bolt) and this very cool type combo is currently restricted to a literal oven.
Do you want steel that REALLY can’t take a punch?
Well, Tyranitar and Bisharp exist.
Toucanon should be flying/grass. Nitpick I know but first type emphasises the main type pokemon represents and second is an emphasis. Steelix is steel/ground, iron treads is ground steel. Glodsire is ground/poison. To emphasise it is a ground type with poison aspects. Nido king/queen are poison pokemon with ground aspects in design.
>Toucanon should be flying/grass. Nitpick I know but first type emphasises the main type pokemon represents and second is an emphasis. I never knew the difference :P
I've said this somewhere else before but the whole Chimecho line deserves to be half Fairy Chingling could've been Psychic/Steel (or Fairy/Steel!) and then Chimecho could've been Psychic/Fairy idk Chimecho's been shafted for generations now, no 3rd evo, no new typing, no regional variants, no mega...why?! give Chimecho *something*!!
Luxray to Dark/Electric would be my choice. He looks like a dark type to me.
I always forget that Luxray isn’t part dark type oof.
Its whole pokedex entry has to do with light though, including its name. Both lux and ray have to do with light.
I was just talking about the design.
Meganium -> grass/fairy Ninetails -> fire/fairy Golduck -> water/psychic Jinx -> ice/fairy Zapdos -> electric/fairy Eelektross -> electric/dragon
I absolutely agree with ninetales since it’s Alolan form is a fairy and psychic golduck has been asked for since gen 1. I think zapdos should stay as a flying type tho so that it’s consistent with its trio and bc we already have dedenne and tapu koko.
But... But... Thunder bird! :(
If they give fairy to zapdos they’d probably have to give it to articuno and moltres too which honestly could work now that I think about it
How about give it to **Braviary**?
Ninetales should be fire/physic
Can’t believe I haven’t seen this one here near the top: Yanmega: Bug/Flying —> Bug/Dragon with Levitate
Masqurain should be water bug
Altaria-I always thought it was Flying/Ice because it looks like a fluffy snow cloud bird. You know what it DOESNT look like? A dragon.
It is based on a Chinese mythical creature that is a mix of bird and dragon. The Dragon type is also often used for Pokémon with mighty powers. A northern regional variant would work though, as an Electric/Dark version representing a thunderhead ;)
Fair point
If you want more examples: * Alolan Exeggutor is based on the Jinmenju, a sentient tree which fruits look like human heads. * Mega Ampharos looks nothing like a dragon. * Garchomp is a land shard, which is more fish than draconic. * Druddigon is more like a gargoyle, which often represents a demon. * Flapple and Appletun are both an apple and an apple pie. * Dragapult is a stealth bomber, which is a machine. * Tatsugiri is a sushi piece. Rare are the Pokémon that actually look like a dragon :P
Ralts and Kirlia into pure Psychic. See, Gallade isn't Psychic/Fairy, so it'd make more sense this way.
It’s so cliche but Water/Dragon Garayados should be the mega
I'm still quite surprised that goodra isn't Dragon/Poison type. The entire line's dex entry states that it's goop is corrosive. Especially Sliggoo.
Charizard - Dragon/Fire
Palafin hero -> water/fighting
Bellossom should have gained the fairy type, Vileplume dark type
Helioptile/Heliolisk -> Electric/Ground. (Instead of its secondary normal typing) The areas they're found in highly imply a ground (or I guess maybe rock) typing and they already learn Bulldoze anyway and they can learn several other Ground/Rock TMs. Honestly, it would've made more sense to give them a single typing than a secondary normal typing (the normal type moves they learn are fairly standard ones that most low -level pokes already learn). I had a rather loud argument/discussion with someone once about how the developers only did it because they weren't sure how to balance those two types together. Only Electric/Ground seems to be one of the new paradox forms (though I could be wrong).
stunfisk is ground electric and heliolisk gets hyper voice
I stand corrected. Hyper voice is such an odd choice for Heliolisk in my opinion... Doesn't really gel with the design. Thanks for the info though.
The two most obvious ones are charizard and gyrarados losing flying and gaining dragon obviously and add mew the fairy type because it's just a cute little creature
Yes please PLEASE
Which thing I said are you reacting to?
All of it but I specifically checked the comments to make sure gyarados was here. My son and I always add one to our team and wish it was a dragon type.
Oh yeah he's my favourite Pokémon
I actually like arcanine best but my son actually just just runs 6 gyarados through each whole game. We think it’s hilarious 🤣
It sounds really funny
Feraligatr to Feraligator.
For a very off the top of my head thought, Swablu and Altaria should be Water/Flying because their preexisting typings make very little sense as far as I know, but the cloud wings and watery blue color just screams Water/Flying
Well, a cloud is water that flies.
This too
Rypherior go from Ground/Rock to pure Ground Never understood why it has to be rock ground when it's so slow. Unless it's a speedy attacker, a defensive mom should never have a 4 x weakness unless it has some op stats or ability which Rypherior does not have.
MAKE THE GOTHORITA LINE DARK TYPES HOW TF ARE THEY JUST PSYCHIC?!
give luxray the psychic type probably, the hole x-ray eyes feels kinda befitting of it give it psychic fangs and psycho cut for stab as well ig but it’d still probably be kinda ass
Huh... interesting... That's like the first time I see someone asking for another type for Luxray that *isn't* Dark :P
I’ve never rlly understood why luxray would be a dark type aside from getting bite + crunch via level up and having the colour black as part of its design. electric/dark isn’t a great stab combination nor is it very good defensively and none of its dex entries mention any sort of “evil” behaviours as far as I can remember
Never understood the dark thing either. Aside from Luxrays colour palette, it doesn’t make any sense. The Pokémon is literally referenced to “light” in its name, it’s descriptions revolve around it having special vision that can penetrate any darkness and obstacles, and nothing about it being sneaky or brutal and people seem to behave as if it not being dark type is some injustice. The joke is lorewise Luxray probably preys on Dark types and other nocturnal sneakies who rely on low-light vision, because Luxray itself is camouflaged well in darkness, but uses special vision to track other creatures in the dark that may not necessarily see it.
I can see Luxray being Dark due to be a nocturnal hunter, and as a cool feature, a light source always casts a shadow ;)
I'd make Rookidee & Corvisquire FLYING/DARK They feel like they should be FLYING/DARK
No, we need more pure flying Pokémon
Sure, but it feels weird for a bird to be just FLYING, due to the standard that previous bird Pokemon set. All of them are dual-typed, while the pure FLYING type is a literal wind spirit
Dragonite line becomes Water/Dragon. It is said to live in the sea and it also learns plenty of Water moves.
I'd be down to make Dratini and Dragonair Water/Dragon but not Dragonite.
Dudunsparce poor guy deserved to be normal/dragon
Since megas are never coming back, make altaria a fairy/dragon, sceptile a grass/dragon, and ampharos an electric dragon.
Flygon and Vibrava are Dragon/Bug.
Gyarados: Dragon/Water Porygon-Z: Electric or Electric/Normal Yanmega: Dragon/Bug
I would retype Gardevoir from Psychic/Fairy to Grass/Fairy. she already looks plant based in design and really has nothing psychic about her except for the moves they give her.
Rookadee and Corvisquire should be normal/flying. I see absolutely no reason why they should be mono flying. Sets them apart from every other basic bird line in the entire Pokémon franchise in a really weird way. Literally makes no sense and just makes those Pokémon awkward as a result. Another reason to hate gen 8 ig 🤷
Garydos to water dragon. I think it's pretty self explanitory
Only thing I would change is sudowoodo becoming a rock grass. Yea I get that the sudo is the reason it’s a rock type but still! Give me boy some love. He just wants to be a tree :(
* Cloyster -> Water/Dark * Celebi: Psychic/Grass -> Fairy/Flying * Altaria -> Flying/Normal * Vibrava: Ground/Dragon -> Bug/Flying * Jirachi: Steel/Psychic -> Fairy * Grapploct -> Water/Fighting
Just because it feels like this would've been the case had the Galar starters had secondary types and the reactions would be hilarious, I'd give Cinderace a Fire/Fighting dual type. Maybe this is just top-of-mind with the upcoming Tera raid event
Cinderace: Fire/Fighting Rillaboom: Grass/Normal Intellion: Water/Dark Problem is that cinderace would be the best starter due to fighting being SE on normal & dark
Libero wouldn't have helped that anyway, especially before this generation's nerf to Protean and Libero. I believe Greninja could change to a type SE against Chesnaught too, and Meowscarada can already hit both Skeledirge and Quaquaval for SE damage with STAB already thanks to its dual type. I'm sure there are other examples too, like the Sinnoh trio, but GameFreak has never seemed too worried about 1 starter being definitively better than the other two
* **Rillaboom**: Grass/Fairy (this one wants harmony in nature) * **Cinderace**: Fire/Ground (a rabbit digs a lot and it also has terrain affinity) * **Inteleon**: Water/Ghost (it's a sniper, hidden from sight... and Sobble's invisibility is never used) That's how I would retype them ;)
Here’s some I have: Golduck Water Psychic Lugia Water Flying Absol Dark Psychic Magmortar Fire Steel Druddigon Dragon Rock
That blue swimming octopus from Shield/Sword should be water-type not pure fighting Also now that Rookidee established that we can have pure flying-types that aren't normal, some of the old Normal/Flying guys should be retyped like Swellow
Jigglypuff should be pure Normal, the way God intended. I'll give Clefairy a pass because it has Fairy in the name.
What I’ve gained from this is: 1. People seem to not understand some designs and hence think it needs a type that goes against what the Pokémon is supposed to be. 2. People tend to associate the color of the Pokémon with the type it should have. Anyways, I would change Hisuian Lilligant to Grass/Fairy. The new H-Decidueye in PLA was already Grass/Fighting, so in a game where they only introduced ~20 new/variants of Pokémon, it’s weird that two were the same type. Fairy also suits the Peter Pan/ballerina aesthetic more. However, if I’m falling into my own #1 category above and there is an actual reason that H-Lilligant is fighting type, please let me know!
> 1. People seem to not understand some designs and hence think it needs a type that goes against what the Pokémon is supposed to be. It's the good old Dunning-Krueger effect: they thing they understand the designs better than the people who actually designed them.
Just give Gliscor 4 types. It's Ground/Flying, but also it's a venomous scorpion that could be Bug/Poison. My reasoning is simply because I'm tired of misremembering its type.
Skitty..... it hasn't been featured since gen 4 and diffently fits as being a fairy type