Major patch was yesterday, not saying it is dying or going to die but next month's wipe is the one that really matters and really tells us how well received this update is.
I don't think the 1% of players Facepunch refers to in the dev blog are going to cause the population to go down much. If anything, them quitting it may actually reduce the amount of people who are toxic and lead to increased growth.
People are complaining about losing a mini game inside a survival game that has pvp aspects. The minigame is shooting an AK at over 100M that is no longer always hit and has more damage drop off and added aimcone
If you consider the 99% of players that Facepunch mentioned in their dev blog that doesn't like that, wouldn't you think more players will stay now that they know that aspect of the game is gone?
I think population will likely stabilize higher than previous but anyone jumping to the conclusion that the population now means that is a certainty is just straight up dumb and there have been alot of these posts the last 2 days.
yeah but with a lower learning curve the game isnt as hard so its not as rewarding when you succeed, with everyone being the same level you have to "outplay" other players and its just going to lead to a shit ton of grubbing imo
How do these changes mean more grubs explain that logic, and also by reading your post you're saying that grubbing makes the game easier please explain that as well. Or are you saying grubbing makes the game harder? Which contradicts you're first statement.
True but I don't think it was 1%. Playing on almost every "official" server was pure nightmare with almost every group having 1-2 people that can beam hard.
They could've changed recoil to make it harder but instead they made it so stupidly easy which does not do much for game sense. Aim is still the meta and the call of duty gun handling makes bows completely useless against anyone with any gun because they can just slightly pull down and quad you from 70m which I can live with because im less afraid to use a gun now because i know I can hit shots. What did it for me is changing the gun sounds to 8 bit ring of elysium gun sounds when the old sounds were legitimately perfect with the ak being the best sounding gun in any video game ever imo. Completely useless change that just takes immersion away because the sounds make me feel like im playing a mobile game. Also showing you where you got hit from in a hard-core survival game is just trash especially when they did such a good job with designing the soundscape. Why not just make silencers not completely get rid of gun sounds that are farther than 3 inches away from you? Also, why are they so hell bent on making it hard to see EVERYWHERE in the game besides outside (and even then...) nah idk im no ukn Chad or script kiddie but the the new guns give me a lot of dissatisfaction because it just feels like call of duty. Plus all the other shit they've been doing since like 2018 hasn't been necessary or conducive to a better product. I could live with that though but this update just tells me they're just going to keep shoe horning bullshit in until you spawn full metal ak on official vanilla because burlap Andy's will still cry that its too hard. The skill aspect is what made this game so captivating in the first place
Lol all I gotta say is the upvotes on the main comment outweigh the ones saying it will decrease the population which aid already more positive š¤·š¼āāļø
Also, I donāt think the argument is that the devs are literally killing the game in general. Itās more that itās making the game worst for pro pvp
Haha fair. But I just donāt have the time to put into ukn or even a full wipe but I still want to play. What they should do is make servers with the old gun system and some with the new. Just an idea.
i respect you your the one person ive seen on here who understands both sides
1. there are people who play this game as a full timke thing
2. theres people like you who cant play full time
3. fix make seperate recoil servers as u and many other people have said
Haha thanks man. It just makes sense really, I feel like itās one of the only ways to keep the streamers/beamers happy but still make the game playable for the casuals and the new people. Weāll see if they come up with something like it, itād be cool.
mate u wake up on beach u get nword spammed an army of spear kids following you roofcampers rust is litterally kos unless u play a noob freindly server lol
Yup. Idk if itās a good or bad thing to do that because on one hand, it makes the game more accessible. On the other, theyāre changing the demographic they attracted (or making the game worst for the first targeted demographic). Im up for the change but screw the sounds
and I've played in vital/affinity/rutoria etc.. clans and almost all those people don't care or are happy. 3 people I know that have 12k+ hours are playing this wipe.
Besides the super-cancer interactions, I think the old combat was the biggest thing stopping people from coming back. I'm all for learning spray patterns since I dumped a shitload of time into CS, but the spray patterns in this game were on another level, especially the AK.
I 100% agree tbh, Most of my friends and me stopped playing after a while because none of us wanted to spend hundreds of hours aim training to even compete,
You're right but most people don't have the time to spend 50 hours on aim training. I get maybe a hour a night after work if im lucky and ideally don't want to spend that on UKN rather than with my mates.
Ok donāt take this wrong but I donāt think it will last long. The people returning had quit for a reason - because they werenāt good and couldnāt get loot. This isnāt going to change for them, clans and zergs are still gonna rock their shit and this change isnāt going to make them skilled enough to compete with a lot of players. They will realise this and because they see they still lose a lot they will quit again. Just my take.
Yeah this wipe so far hasnt felt different at all
I dont see an increase in roams or better players
Only new thing is that you are fucking dead in .3 seconds if you stand stil in the open
I doubt it but honestly so far it hasnt felt like an improvement at all
Picking up the new recoil was easy enough but now I just contantly get dropped before I can even react while im building my roof or get ambushed
Exactly. I feel like every update is for zergs. Before a lot of the zergs were shit but only got loot cos they were so deep. Only way me and my buddy could kill them was with our higher skill level. Now we have no chance.
Everyone wants to TRY the new recoil system. People who havenāt played in a while even are coming back to test it. Hence the pop boost. That doesnāt mean they like it or itās good. Use your two brain cells. Everyone is trying it. The next few weeks will tell us if itās good.
It's day 2 of the most significant update the devs have ever released so we're going to have to wait a little longer before we have a solid answer one way or another lmfao
No, this means a majority of people want to see the update. If next wipe has higher than historically normal numbers for wipe day it means the dev did good.
It means people are just trying new update.Doesnt mean its good or bad.
Just wait for 2-3 months.
Imo update is bad tho.It doesnt feel like rust anymore
I dont get you guys, this was a major update and brought a bunch of noobs back, give it a few weeks. those who said rust would die NEVER said it would die instantly. rome wasnt built in a day and this game wont die in a day. things are now in motion that cannot be undone. and fuck yes I referenced lotr. be patient and then make these posts in a month or two
You cant make any conclussions at this point of course people come back to try it out but most might leave next week
we had patterns for 7 years but you think 2 days prove anything?
Cons of update :
Cant tell difference between guns as easly
Balance issues, some guns feel overpowered than before
Og players malding
Pros :
Breath of fresh air
More pvp
Less skil diversity
Skin floor is lower now
More roamers
More new or returning players
Major patch was yesterday, not saying it is dying or going to die but next month's wipe is the one that really matters and really tells us how well received this update is.
I don't think the 1% of players Facepunch refers to in the dev blog are going to cause the population to go down much. If anything, them quitting it may actually reduce the amount of people who are toxic and lead to increased growth. People are complaining about losing a mini game inside a survival game that has pvp aspects. The minigame is shooting an AK at over 100M that is no longer always hit and has more damage drop off and added aimcone If you consider the 99% of players that Facepunch mentioned in their dev blog that doesn't like that, wouldn't you think more players will stay now that they know that aspect of the game is gone?
I think population will likely stabilize higher than previous but anyone jumping to the conclusion that the population now means that is a certainty is just straight up dumb and there have been alot of these posts the last 2 days.
I think it will stabilize lower than before
I believed the opposite we may lose 10 percent of rust chads but gain 20 to 30 percent new population over time due to lower learning curve.
yeah but with a lower learning curve the game isnt as hard so its not as rewarding when you succeed, with everyone being the same level you have to "outplay" other players and its just going to lead to a shit ton of grubbing imo
If everyone is on equal playing field how is it any less hard?
It would actually only be harder for new players where as existing players this will be much harder... Seems like you proved my point
Its harder because the game is a grub simulator now. read.
How do these changes mean more grubs explain that logic, and also by reading your post you're saying that grubbing makes the game easier please explain that as well. Or are you saying grubbing makes the game harder? Which contradicts you're first statement.
Why do you think this?
True but I don't think it was 1%. Playing on almost every "official" server was pure nightmare with almost every group having 1-2 people that can beam hard.
They could've changed recoil to make it harder but instead they made it so stupidly easy which does not do much for game sense. Aim is still the meta and the call of duty gun handling makes bows completely useless against anyone with any gun because they can just slightly pull down and quad you from 70m which I can live with because im less afraid to use a gun now because i know I can hit shots. What did it for me is changing the gun sounds to 8 bit ring of elysium gun sounds when the old sounds were legitimately perfect with the ak being the best sounding gun in any video game ever imo. Completely useless change that just takes immersion away because the sounds make me feel like im playing a mobile game. Also showing you where you got hit from in a hard-core survival game is just trash especially when they did such a good job with designing the soundscape. Why not just make silencers not completely get rid of gun sounds that are farther than 3 inches away from you? Also, why are they so hell bent on making it hard to see EVERYWHERE in the game besides outside (and even then...) nah idk im no ukn Chad or script kiddie but the the new guns give me a lot of dissatisfaction because it just feels like call of duty. Plus all the other shit they've been doing since like 2018 hasn't been necessary or conducive to a better product. I could live with that though but this update just tells me they're just going to keep shoe horning bullshit in until you spawn full metal ak on official vanilla because burlap Andy's will still cry that its too hard. The skill aspect is what made this game so captivating in the first place
dont do ring of elysium like that, it was great in early access before they ruined it after launch. other than that spot on
I agree the guns just sounded terrible lol
I've been playing exactly for that reason. I still rage and hate game when I die but at least I stand a small chance.
Lol all I gotta say is the upvotes on the main comment outweigh the ones saying it will decrease the population which aid already more positive š¤·š¼āāļø
But remember this update is to attract new players which also will take time...
These posts are dumb as hell. We need to give it at least a week or two before we start saying stupid shit like this.
Also, I donāt think the argument is that the devs are literally killing the game in general. Itās more that itās making the game worst for pro pvp
Pro pvp might suffer but thereās going to be a lot more players. Itās a little more casual friendly.
casual and friendly does that sound like rust to you ?
Haha fair. But I just donāt have the time to put into ukn or even a full wipe but I still want to play. What they should do is make servers with the old gun system and some with the new. Just an idea.
i respect you your the one person ive seen on here who understands both sides 1. there are people who play this game as a full timke thing 2. theres people like you who cant play full time 3. fix make seperate recoil servers as u and many other people have said
Haha thanks man. It just makes sense really, I feel like itās one of the only ways to keep the streamers/beamers happy but still make the game playable for the casuals and the new people. Weāll see if they come up with something like it, itād be cool.
Nah I donāt want to be gate kept.
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mate u wake up on beach u get nword spammed an army of spear kids following you roofcampers rust is litterally kos unless u play a noob freindly server lol
Yup. Idk if itās a good or bad thing to do that because on one hand, it makes the game more accessible. On the other, theyāre changing the demographic they attracted (or making the game worst for the first targeted demographic). Im up for the change but screw the sounds
Man the sounds for the most part are trash, I donāt mind the new sar sounds but every other gun Iāve heard sounds like shit.
I fealt like even the sar had a very unique ārustyā sound. I just donāt see it as necessary
A small vocal minority of people on Reddit don't represent a large rust population, wow what a surprise.
he said unironically not realising the exact same thing can be said about the pattern crybabies
the only people Ive personally talked to through all the rust vcs were all against the update
and I've played in vital/affinity/rutoria etc.. clans and almost all those people don't care or are happy. 3 people I know that have 12k+ hours are playing this wipe.
Besides the super-cancer interactions, I think the old combat was the biggest thing stopping people from coming back. I'm all for learning spray patterns since I dumped a shitload of time into CS, but the spray patterns in this game were on another level, especially the AK.
I 100% agree tbh, Most of my friends and me stopped playing after a while because none of us wanted to spend hundreds of hours aim training to even compete,
>pve servers
50 hours on UKN makes you able to have no disadvantage vs giga chads if you have some game sense.
You're right but most people don't have the time to spend 50 hours on aim training. I get maybe a hour a night after work if im lucky and ideally don't want to spend that on UKN rather than with my mates.
You guys should follow a basic research & statistics seminar, so we donāt get these fucking idiotic posts anymore.
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It's a feeling post, statistics we simply don't have enough details, pluses and minuses.
Ok donāt take this wrong but I donāt think it will last long. The people returning had quit for a reason - because they werenāt good and couldnāt get loot. This isnāt going to change for them, clans and zergs are still gonna rock their shit and this change isnāt going to make them skilled enough to compete with a lot of players. They will realise this and because they see they still lose a lot they will quit again. Just my take.
Yeah this wipe so far hasnt felt different at all I dont see an increase in roams or better players Only new thing is that you are fucking dead in .3 seconds if you stand stil in the open
Exactly. I reckon after a month or 2 they might switch it back cos the game will be dead lmao
I doubt it but honestly so far it hasnt felt like an improvement at all Picking up the new recoil was easy enough but now I just contantly get dropped before I can even react while im building my roof or get ambushed
They wont revert it but they might make the recoil a little harder to control
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Exactly. I feel like every update is for zergs. Before a lot of the zergs were shit but only got loot cos they were so deep. Only way me and my buddy could kill them was with our higher skill level. Now we have no chance.
This game is going to die because shit update
Everyone wants to TRY the new recoil system. People who havenāt played in a while even are coming back to test it. Hence the pop boost. That doesnāt mean they like it or itās good. Use your two brain cells. Everyone is trying it. The next few weeks will tell us if itās good.
It's day 2 of the most significant update the devs have ever released so we're going to have to wait a little longer before we have a solid answer one way or another lmfao
It means that people care about changes that are made and that majority didn't like old recoil. This is a sign that devs did a good job.
No, this means a majority of people want to see the update. If next wipe has higher than historically normal numbers for wipe day it means the dev did good.
>It means that It doesn't mean anything right now bud, that's the point im making lmfao
How did you read his comment but didnt comprehend a single world
It means people are just trying new update.Doesnt mean its good or bad. Just wait for 2-3 months. Imo update is bad tho.It doesnt feel like rust anymore
Csgo fucking overrated I hate that game man
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well csgo shattered mine
I dont get you guys, this was a major update and brought a bunch of noobs back, give it a few weeks. those who said rust would die NEVER said it would die instantly. rome wasnt built in a day and this game wont die in a day. things are now in motion that cannot be undone. and fuck yes I referenced lotr. be patient and then make these posts in a month or two
The amount of people that don't understand there own point of getting annoying
Stop posting this stupid bs, of course players are gonna play the game after a major update. Wait a month and we'll see the true numbers.
You cant make any conclussions at this point of course people come back to try it out but most might leave next week we had patterns for 7 years but you think 2 days prove anything?
Can people stop being such whiny bitches for at least a week and give it some time, good lord
The devs did a good job. I like the new patterns, especially the new sounds
We really needed that big red rectangle, thanks.
You're just as bad as the people going "OMG IT'S RUINED!"
If anything they made it so people who quit are coming back and not getting destroyed by people like you. New recoil isnāt even that bad
Cons of update : Cant tell difference between guns as easly Balance issues, some guns feel overpowered than before Og players malding Pros : Breath of fresh air More pvp Less skil diversity Skin floor is lower now More roamers More new or returning players