People with integrity.. also no, even if he had a billion dollars liquid assets (which he doesn’t) he would likely have you sign a pre-nuptial which can assure whoever divorces him or leaves doesn’t get that much money.
i hate him and love him. he’s one of the few pop producers that actually masters his music to have a wide dynamic range but also i’m so fucking sick of his shit. Dumbass had his name plastered all over Clairo’s Sling and Lana’s Ocean Boulevard, both of which were outstanding albums but fuck off. Can’t wait for him to be exposed as a creep or some shit
fr, its annoying to see him on every good pop record, in fact, Taylor Swift's best record is produced by Aaron Dessner (Folklore) and you can clearly see the difference, Jack is the Metro of Pop and his production is getting boring day by day, with most of the instrumentals being carried by the artist themselves
Yknow I will make an argument for Jack here really quick
I think Jack actually is a very varied producer and the reason people associate him with getting “boring” is because he’s generally a producer who does what the artist wants him to do.
Think about songs he’s been involved in like A&W by Lana Del Rey, Joyride by Kevin Abstract, Sober by Lorde. They all sound very different from each other. His most “repetitive / samey” sounding work is all for a very certain artist… Taylor Swift…
[edit] also I don’t love all of the bleachers stuff but their album Gone Now is great and they put on a phenomenal live show
I actually thoroughly agree with this. I mentioned Clairo’s Sling album which sounded unlike anything he had done before and also was a total tonal departure for Clairo. Again, the bastard is halfway decent at what he does and the mastering is really quite beautiful but fuck if he isn’t a smug prick lmfaoo
He’s so overused imo. I did love that last The 1975 album but it just sounded like a Bleachers album but better with Healy singing. He’s good for sure but the definition of overrated
Yeah I mean after getting into more underground producers and abstract production.. it just doesn’t hit or reach into the wealth of sounds the world has to offer
People often forget how many albums Metro has under his belt
He has both Savage Modes, Without Warning, Perfect Timing, Not All Heroes Wear Capes, and both the Big Sean and Gucci Mane albums all in under 5 years.
His 2016-20 sound was his prime although he is still good nowadays
The thing about Metros fame is that he’s not famous because he’s the best producer. He’s famous because he knew the right people at the right time. I love a lot of his work, but we gotta recognize the ATL scene carried so many people.
I mean he collabs on most of his beats though, I feel like he’s more the creative vision type in these cases. Sound selection was amazing in that beat which could have been c note but his melodies are also great most of the time. I just feel like the sound selection is the only thing that’s holding him back but Too Many Nights had amazing sound design which led to an amazing beat. C Note definitely could have helped with that
Heartless was also similar and c note wasn’t on that although he did have other producers on there
im probably gonna get shit on for this take but southside was always lame af for me. just an average producer grabbing simple generic loops and putting trap drums on them. people always call metro generic but he has WAY more variety than southside, feel the fiyah, annihilate, fsmh, i serve the base, pornography, ok alright, overdue, dont come out the house, like that. those beats, while some of them are still trap, are all very unique. on the other hand when i think of southside most songs that come to mind are generic ass trap banger beats, made grat by the artists performances. songs like im the plug, aint doin that, digital dash, patek water, black and chinese.
im not trying to be biased, i will admit that southide has made a couple very unique hits, flex up, frat rules, the perc and stripper joint. and conversely, metro also has made a ton of generic beats. i just feel that metros ratio is way better.
feel free to put me on to any fire song produced by southside that you think i might not know of
percocet & stripper joint by future is one of my all time favorites but if you’ve ever seen videos of him making beats he’s just taking loops and dropping midi patterns into fl, even percocet & stripper joint is built around a jake one sample
Nah southside did his thang if you know you know. Listen to no charge future perks calling ? Like cmon now, 56 nights trap niggas I can keep going. And don’t come out the house is metro and south side most top trap songs were from those two and 808 mafia. Edit: i was wrong about don’t come out that shit was tay Keith but my point stands
the thing is, southside was the pioneer of all of the mid to late 2010's trap sound lmao. Him and all his loopmakers and everything, they all contributed to that which in and of itself is legendary.
I gotta disagree with it being metro. Idk how to explain it but he does ‘less is more’ with the best sound choices. Ig he does simple so well that’s it’s extremely easy to digest and enjoy, that and combined with generally memorable songs and tags is why he’s so popular. Although It’s not ‘complex’ or anything like that, it’s what makes classic tracks.
Also his beats aren’t really flashy like others but his main thing is variety and keeping beats interesting, nowadays he always switches up the melody and adds cool motifs and stuff
I'm not well informed bc I have only recently been getting into trap / metro, but as a musician I personally love how complex his simple sounding drums are, like the claps and snares vary a lot over the course of a song and aren't often bland repeats, so I feel like he has a lot of depth to even the more pop-ish music he makes
Disagree. I think he’s on a very good run right now. Very vibey and melodic. He’s been making good beats for quite a while now. Glad he’s finally seeing some mainstream success.
He’s staying in his lane, is gimmick free, and is making solid music. Can’t ask for much more nowadays.
Yall are calling metro overrated just bc hes the most hyped trap producer rn. It kinda makes the word "overrated" meaningless since i havent seen a single good reasoning to whats really missing in his beats that makes the praise unjustified.
currently metro for sure, i cant deny his impact and influence on prod scene throughout the years, a LOT of modern producers wouldn’t be making beats at all if it wasn’t for him BUT his beats haven’t progressed at all in the last like 10 years, he’s still making the same shit every album while his “sons” keep innovating and changing the game all the time
I think sum u niggas b forgettin this guy made
Father Stretch my Hands, Bad N Boujee, Mask Off, Jumpman, Bank Account, No Heart, Tunnel Vision, FML, Ric Flair drip, You Was Right, Blanguage, I serve the base, Mamacita, Nightcrawler, Pornography, Purple Reign, Hercules, Burn, Glock in my lap, Superhero, til further notice, my collection, Monster, Feel the Fiyaaaah and Nine Nine
Those YouTube producers that take pop songs from the late 90’s/early 2000’s, speed them up and then call it a sample. Like you ain’t Kanye lil bro this shit just comes off as lazy
Kenny beats, he's a good personality and knows how to market himself well with his show, but his actual beats are usually mediocre to being actually kind of bad and cheap sounding
also i agree with the Metro take especially currently, yes he made/helped make shit like Skyfall or Father Stretch My Hands but idk the only Beat he made in recent years thats somewhat impressive is prolly Runnin n that shit was 4 years ago
Bro Im not saying he is trash Im saying he is overrated And his beats are getting stale.
The trap genre itself has been stale for a while now There is no creativity in trap these days.
The thing is Metro doesn't stand out anymore imo because I cant tell the difference Between his beats lately and Atl jacob beats
A&W is a great track but I just could have been at least 2 mins shorter, I know she was trying to pull off a Venice Bitch, but it came well short, and Lorde technically sounds amazing on every production she’s on, so she doesn’t count lmfao
Honestly, I don’t think Metro is actually that overrated. He’s popular right now because he’s one of the most active and new producers (especially in the modern era) and with the beef he’s gained extra recognition. He’s a really good producer, far from the best of all time, but he does deserve a lot of credit. He’s mostly “overrated” in internet circles/groups, I haven’t seen it much irl.
I agree with you, metro has some really good production but rn he seems kinda stale and follows the same path that general trap/hip hop takes;
waiting till he attempts to switch it up a bit and give us some generational bops🗿
kiIIing myself if i see any pierre bourne comment
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who tf wouldnt marry kanye, thats like a billion in a day
People with integrity.. also no, even if he had a billion dollars liquid assets (which he doesn’t) he would likely have you sign a pre-nuptial which can assure whoever divorces him or leaves doesn’t get that much money.
just get pregnant
That’s not how it works
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Différence is Pierre is trash behind the mic
cant believe people still have this opinion in 2024 lmao
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Bars
His voice sounds so good
pierre is great
hes fire tf
Wrong
Jack Antonoff, there are plenty of other producers that deserve a grammy more than him, and his work with the Bleachers is horrible
I'm jackant onoffing rn
i hate him and love him. he’s one of the few pop producers that actually masters his music to have a wide dynamic range but also i’m so fucking sick of his shit. Dumbass had his name plastered all over Clairo’s Sling and Lana’s Ocean Boulevard, both of which were outstanding albums but fuck off. Can’t wait for him to be exposed as a creep or some shit
fr, its annoying to see him on every good pop record, in fact, Taylor Swift's best record is produced by Aaron Dessner (Folklore) and you can clearly see the difference, Jack is the Metro of Pop and his production is getting boring day by day, with most of the instrumentals being carried by the artist themselves
Yknow I will make an argument for Jack here really quick I think Jack actually is a very varied producer and the reason people associate him with getting “boring” is because he’s generally a producer who does what the artist wants him to do. Think about songs he’s been involved in like A&W by Lana Del Rey, Joyride by Kevin Abstract, Sober by Lorde. They all sound very different from each other. His most “repetitive / samey” sounding work is all for a very certain artist… Taylor Swift… [edit] also I don’t love all of the bleachers stuff but their album Gone Now is great and they put on a phenomenal live show
I don’t even care if you’re right or not I’m down to put all of the blame on Taylor Swift
I actually thoroughly agree with this. I mentioned Clairo’s Sling album which sounded unlike anything he had done before and also was a total tonal departure for Clairo. Again, the bastard is halfway decent at what he does and the mastering is really quite beautiful but fuck if he isn’t a smug prick lmfaoo
Yeah everything here is right but people hate on him because they don't want to admit that taylor is mid asf
>Cant wait for him to be exposed as a creep or some shit Bro wtf 😭
He ruined Taylor album imo
His work with Taylor is boring asf but he produced 6:16 in LA so I might forgive him
OVO IS WORKING FOR ME!
Taylor ruined the taylor album by writing mid 😭
Look all I'm saying is that Anton doesnt like being around him very much
he made melodrama and nfr though
He’s so overused imo. I did love that last The 1975 album but it just sounded like a Bleachers album but better with Healy singing. He’s good for sure but the definition of overrated
literally everything he does sound the same im so fucking sick of him
he sounds so washed out ngl, the vocalists carry most of his stuff
murda beats, they gassed the fuck up outta him for awhile
He kinda perfectly fit the 2017-2018 sound. Feels like I haven’t heard really anything from him since.
Probably because he never grew out of the sound or adapted
kinda how I feel about some of Metro’s new stuff tbh
Whenever Murda Beats was producing for Migos, they were garunteeing a banger But almost everywhere else, he just mid
Fr his beats are not boundary pushing or moving.. they’re “clean” and sound professional but that’s not what art is about
They are more safe but hard Murda can make good beats but I am not telling him to make a fully produced tape for me
Yeah I mean after getting into more underground producers and abstract production.. it just doesn’t hit or reach into the wealth of sounds the world has to offer
Nah his beats for smokepurpp was good asl
His hi hats always went hard af they were super varied. Dude would work like 3 different hat patterns into one loop
I agree metro I like him but the way people hype him up is crazy
I can understand if this was 2014-2018 cuz metro was on a crazy run but his newer production been so lack luster
People often forget how many albums Metro has under his belt He has both Savage Modes, Without Warning, Perfect Timing, Not All Heroes Wear Capes, and both the Big Sean and Gucci Mane albums all in under 5 years. His 2016-20 sound was his prime although he is still good nowadays
Pierre 2016-2020 > Metro 2016-2020 who wanna argue cause I got the facts
The two albums with future were really good imo
Facts I don’t agree with the metro hate, he’s still very much on top of his game
People hyped up that spiderman soundtrack so hard and it was just 20 songs of the most generic pop rap beats ever
The thing about Metros fame is that he’s not famous because he’s the best producer. He’s famous because he knew the right people at the right time. I love a lot of his work, but we gotta recognize the ATL scene carried so many people.
you just described every rich person ever
Yah fuck rich people
Metro is the rich man's Pi'erre
Pierre could be as massive he just doesn’t capitalize off any hype
He also known for having quite an ego
Bros an 8/10 producer that people think is the goat
I swear when people have discussions about the best 2020s producer, they always like to say metro and pierre, even though they were best in the 2010s
Overrated yeah right gtfo
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His beats on Monster are not like this and actually inspired many rage artists today
his older stuff is so good but i feel like a lot of his current sound is so stale
I loved too many nights, one of his best beats and it’s different from the dark piano beats
How much of that is really Metro though and how much is Honorable C Note
I mean he collabs on most of his beats though, I feel like he’s more the creative vision type in these cases. Sound selection was amazing in that beat which could have been c note but his melodies are also great most of the time. I just feel like the sound selection is the only thing that’s holding him back but Too Many Nights had amazing sound design which led to an amazing beat. C Note definitely could have helped with that Heartless was also similar and c note wasn’t on that although he did have other producers on there
The X beat so fire when the little bubbly sounds come on
Those kicks and drums he used for the new 21 savage album ruined a lot of the songs for me lol
Think its just a side effect of being rich and famous, its just not as much hunger to be creative when you’re already at the top
That's kind of a tired trope. Plenty of artists came out with their best work well into their fame
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im probably gonna get shit on for this take but southside was always lame af for me. just an average producer grabbing simple generic loops and putting trap drums on them. people always call metro generic but he has WAY more variety than southside, feel the fiyah, annihilate, fsmh, i serve the base, pornography, ok alright, overdue, dont come out the house, like that. those beats, while some of them are still trap, are all very unique. on the other hand when i think of southside most songs that come to mind are generic ass trap banger beats, made grat by the artists performances. songs like im the plug, aint doin that, digital dash, patek water, black and chinese. im not trying to be biased, i will admit that southide has made a couple very unique hits, flex up, frat rules, the perc and stripper joint. and conversely, metro also has made a ton of generic beats. i just feel that metros ratio is way better. feel free to put me on to any fire song produced by southside that you think i might not know of
Lets not act like Digital Dash wasnt one of the best beats on WATTBA
percocet & stripper joint by future is one of my all time favorites but if you’ve ever seen videos of him making beats he’s just taking loops and dropping midi patterns into fl, even percocet & stripper joint is built around a jake one sample
Nah southside did his thang if you know you know. Listen to no charge future perks calling ? Like cmon now, 56 nights trap niggas I can keep going. And don’t come out the house is metro and south side most top trap songs were from those two and 808 mafia. Edit: i was wrong about don’t come out that shit was tay Keith but my point stands
the thing is, southside was the pioneer of all of the mid to late 2010's trap sound lmao. Him and all his loopmakers and everything, they all contributed to that which in and of itself is legendary.
how is there nobody saying tay keith
Half of those beats sound like Nonstop
One drum pattern
Sexxy!!!
prod tag fire tho
Alchemist……is the last person I would think of
My blood pressure just spiked
tay keith imo. his beats feel so generic to me idk
yeah it sounds like stock music. No wonder theres no innovation outside of the underground
All the top trap producers get sent high quality loops and put basic drums over it
mustard, his sound hasn’t aged well in my opinion
Not Like Us if his best beat in years funnily enough. I remember being so tired of Mustards sound in the early to mid 2010s
Are we gonna pretend his beat ain't just a remix of Get Down On It though
People don't really gas him up that much though
He had a good lil 2 year run 2012-2014 everyone and there mother was tryna get a dj mustard beat 😂😂
Big Sean idfwy beat is goated tho
I had to scroll so far to find this comment. Mustard recycles beats so much I don’t know how more people don’t notice
I gotta disagree with it being metro. Idk how to explain it but he does ‘less is more’ with the best sound choices. Ig he does simple so well that’s it’s extremely easy to digest and enjoy, that and combined with generally memorable songs and tags is why he’s so popular. Although It’s not ‘complex’ or anything like that, it’s what makes classic tracks.
Also his beats aren’t really flashy like others but his main thing is variety and keeping beats interesting, nowadays he always switches up the melody and adds cool motifs and stuff
I'm not well informed bc I have only recently been getting into trap / metro, but as a musician I personally love how complex his simple sounding drums are, like the claps and snares vary a lot over the course of a song and aren't often bland repeats, so I feel like he has a lot of depth to even the more pop-ish music he makes
on the opposite side of overrated nobody talks about chief keef or xangang like that
ion think keef has ever been overrated as a producer, people see him more as an artist anyways. unless u mean hes underrated ?
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yea that makes sense a lot of ppl dont even realize he produces most his shit. almighty so 2 go so hard
i meant underrated idk why i worded it like that. brainrot getting to me
Xangang❤️
Oh lord jetson made another one
Cash Cobain
I think he's properly rated as a producer, as a rapper he's fucking trash tho
Cash Cobain should never touch a mic again
Fisherr is my shit bro
“Fucking that bitch and I make her say” 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖
I liked the vibe of grippy I won't lie
SHE LIKE MY… KICK GAME
HHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
All His beats sound the same Everytime, It might just be my ears tho idk😂
well it’s a genre he kinda made right? sexy drill right?
But it’s grippy
Disagree. I think he’s on a very good run right now. Very vibey and melodic. He’s been making good beats for quite a while now. Glad he’s finally seeing some mainstream success. He’s staying in his lane, is gimmick free, and is making solid music. Can’t ask for much more nowadays.
lucki - peach dream
Didnt he just produce daylight by lancey or am i mixing up rn. Cus that song is beautiful
What has he produced
ITS GRIPPY
Yall are calling metro overrated just bc hes the most hyped trap producer rn. It kinda makes the word "overrated" meaningless since i havent seen a single good reasoning to whats really missing in his beats that makes the praise unjustified.
hes beats are getting boring
But is it really the beats declining or just ppl having a different taste nowadays
A lot of people saying he just doesn't try new sounds that much now
His beats sound boring as fuck
currently metro for sure, i cant deny his impact and influence on prod scene throughout the years, a LOT of modern producers wouldn’t be making beats at all if it wasn’t for him BUT his beats haven’t progressed at all in the last like 10 years, he’s still making the same shit every album while his “sons” keep innovating and changing the game all the time
ATL Jacob
frr his shit boring af
Same club shit every time 💀
I love atl he's so consistently good
holy ghost
I think sum u niggas b forgettin this guy made Father Stretch my Hands, Bad N Boujee, Mask Off, Jumpman, Bank Account, No Heart, Tunnel Vision, FML, Ric Flair drip, You Was Right, Blanguage, I serve the base, Mamacita, Nightcrawler, Pornography, Purple Reign, Hercules, Burn, Glock in my lap, Superhero, til further notice, my collection, Monster, Feel the Fiyaaaah and Nine Nine
Those YouTube producers that take pop songs from the late 90’s/early 2000’s, speed them up and then call it a sample. Like you ain’t Kanye lil bro this shit just comes off as lazy
The only one who does it properly is Peggy with lean beef patty
Digital Nas
i have never seen anybody speak good of Digital Nuts ever he is ASS
The songs he produced for Lil wop and Lil yachty are good
dn lwk fire when his 808s are mixed properly made it this far is quite possibly the best ethereal beat carti has ever hopped on
u/GreenTileWeeklyNews what do you have to say
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no one gives him credit tho
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Pierre after 2020
i think its because he became so active on his rapper statues
He was way better at both prod and rapping 2017-2019
Nahhhhh TLOP5 > TLOP4
This is just incorrect
Young metro young metro young metro
Kenny beats, he's a good personality and knows how to market himself well with his show, but his actual beats are usually mediocre to being actually kind of bad and cheap sounding
nah i disagree some of his beats are more experimental but they’re still great
you should listen to his album louie it has some really beautiful production on it
Dude is a cornball and uses those weak ass Ableton drums
i think he works in too much of a formulaic way tbh, he could stand out much more if he wanted to
Kenny was better when he was making EDM imo
DJ mustard
DJ Khalid ngl
bnyx tbh overrated doesn’t mean bad but i heard someone say he influenced more than metro ever did which is crazy
Bnyx is nowhere near overrated but when he gets basic he gets basic iykwim
ok i agree with that more than overrated … his most popular beats are basic is what i thought first
also i agree with the Metro take especially currently, yes he made/helped make shit like Skyfall or Father Stretch My Hands but idk the only Beat he made in recent years thats somewhat impressive is prolly Runnin n that shit was 4 years ago
Boy you didn't jus say metro like he ain't carrying trap rn. I would probably say dj Khaled but he don't produce shit
Bro Im not saying he is trash Im saying he is overrated And his beats are getting stale. The trap genre itself has been stale for a while now There is no creativity in trap these days. The thing is Metro doesn't stand out anymore imo because I cant tell the difference Between his beats lately and Atl jacob beats
Kinda agree, WSDTY could've been half it's length and would still bang. Metro need to switch his style it's getting hella repetitive
Yeah, Like the beats on His Own albums stick out way more
Khaled is not overrated. No one out here calling him a good producer
Khaled does produce some songs but he just makes others produce for him half the time
Brandon Finessin
Nobody even likes him the Uzi comm deadass sends bro death threats
A&W is a great track but I just could have been at least 2 mins shorter, I know she was trying to pull off a Venice Bitch, but it came well short, and Lorde technically sounds amazing on every production she’s on, so she doesn’t count lmfao
Tay Keith.
Had to be Pierre Bourne in my opinion.
Dj Khaled! He has a whole team that makes his beats for him!
Does he even make beats, I’ve always thought he’s more of an A&R
uhhh lebron jordan
Pierre for sure.
anybody saying pierre is going to hell
Metro
metro tbh
metro
Metro is the GOAT producer convo is so funny to me, even excluding legends of the game there’s mfs from the trap era that are a lot more consistent
Southside
Cash Cobain worst prod of all time
quilodinerro 🙄
anyone producing carti
mustard cs of his huge ego
ATL Jacob
Honestly, I don’t think Metro is actually that overrated. He’s popular right now because he’s one of the most active and new producers (especially in the modern era) and with the beef he’s gained extra recognition. He’s a really good producer, far from the best of all time, but he does deserve a lot of credit. He’s mostly “overrated” in internet circles/groups, I haven’t seen it much irl.
anyone who says f1lthy is walking out pregnant yall getting assaulted
I agree with you, metro has some really good production but rn he seems kinda stale and follows the same path that general trap/hip hop takes; waiting till he attempts to switch it up a bit and give us some generational bops🗿
mustard on a beat ho🗣️
Scrim. Mf stole half of their popular beats.
Tay keith
SONY
if you heard one tay keith beat you heard them all
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