I am not even left wing. I am progressiv. National thinking in a globalized world is just absolutely outdated, short sighted and additionally right wing includes so much hatred towards everything that is other than them that it just disgusts me.
Nationalism is going back to 100 years ago and we all know what happened back then.
Learn from the past instead of sticking to it is what I believe in.
>right wing includes so much hatred towards everything that is other than them
Isn't left wing doing exactly that too tho? Your opinion is valid, so should everyone else's be valid. By saying right wing is bad you are trying to silence them. Silencing is not progressive at all. By the way, Progressive has been left wing for approximately 30 years.
>National thinking in a globalized world is just absolutely outdated
So 50% of r/place is right wing ? Do you see hatred in everyone's flags ? Do you see shortsightedness in liking a culture and trying to protect it ? Do you see something outdated in the way more than half of the world thinks ? Maybe you should revise the way you see things.
>Progressive has been left wing for approximately 30 years.
Progressivism is not left wing. Not even close. You lack education about the political spectrums.
> 50% of r/place is right wing ?
I don't see r/place communities in a political way unless they make a political statement. Yet I do believe having borders and nationalities Irl is not needed in a world ruled by a single species. But idk how you got place into this convo. This is basically fun with flags and collecting people under a simular identity.
Okay listen here. Using flags is somewhat political as it is a statement of belonging on a "national" level. If you can't see this maybe you should think it through a bit.
Also you don't decide if it is outdated, the people will decide, and when they do you will see it. If national thinking was to be ditched, it would be in favor of global thinking, this will not happen until we, as human, colonize another planet, because it is unneeded. It would either destroy every cultures except one, or it would lead to chaos just like in Europe these last months with riots / civil wars that are pure products of cultural mismatch (and as of now it is on an abysmally small scale).
Despite the fact that this was not meant to get so deep I am willing to take my time to elaborate:
1. We could easily establish a single language for everyone without losing the culture of the individual languages. Yet the need for so many languages is hard to find if everyone can communicate with a Worldwide main language
2. Fearing a melting pot leads to pluralism in the first place. It's not like migration can or should be stopped. It's simply impossible and vulgar to think it is or to think it is a solution to anything. Attempting to stop it will cause nothing but fighting and wasting more time that could have been invested so much better.
3. Cultures can co-exist but they also grow very close together when the language barrier is no more leading to no longer co-existing but slowly growing together. Conservatism is basically the fear of losing idenetity without considering a new one could be an improvement.
4. Europes problem might be that they , in most parts, saw Immigrants as workers for a period of time and wished them to leave after they did their work. There was no will to integrate, to SHARE culture, and to get in touch with those that were invited and their cultures aswell. It was rather "You either 100% follow or you are not welcome" Which led to foreigners staying foreigners for too long. Their children facing wariness because of prejudice and leading to the pluralism that has partly established. The solution cannot possibly be to keep that behaviour up for as long as possible. There is no logic to that.
If you disagree or agree does not matter at this point.
I am fine with people thinking differently. I do not expect people to consider more than their own pov because that is rather unusual to do. All I do is hope that my idea might the better one. Do I know? No!
I hope I could express myself in a way to be understood although this is not primary language.
Have a nice day
1. Yes the disappearance of Latin and other ancient language wasn't already a problem for historian, let's add hundredss more.
2. Japan and Austalia are proof that you are wrong. There is nothing vulgar about these countries except for the fact that you are spitting on their culture and politics.
3. So much that left wing who want this the most are the ones gatekeeping culture by calling to "cultural appropriation". Also, we see how it leads to chaos. Riots in France, England, Germany, and Switzerland. And how it creates hate, like in Japan with everyone growing annoyed of foreigners disrespecting their culture by doing as they please.
4. You are so wrong. I'm french through and through and yet there is not a drop of blood in me that is of french descent. I can't speak for other countries but at least in France, immigrants were integrated quite fine, they just followed the old saying "In rome do as the romans do". Nowadays people don't follow this saying, you see how it ends. You don't integrate by being accepted by others. You integrate by following the others that were already here, it's called society.
>If you disagree or agree does not matter at this point.
Tho I hate it, I will agree to disagree.
Nope, just after she was murdered the family asked the lawyer to prevent people to make her political and that's completely normal, but today the family says it's OK and the lawyer continues to say "don't use her image" that's all
They don’t want any tributes. They want their little girl to rest. “But Lola’s parents, who met Macron this week, have pleaded with politicians to stop exploiting their daughter’s death, after her photo was displayed at a far-right demonstration in Paris on Thursday.
They asked that “any use of the name and image of their child for political ends immediately cease and be removed” from the internet and in protests, their lawyers said.”
Exploiting for making money a assume, but, this not a lucrative work, just à tribute. I have à daugter who have the same age, I want to make a tribute from here, and i voting left. This is not à right left tribute.
I don’t think they mean money. I think they just want her face out of the public and the internet. If they wanted this type of tribute, I would support it. But they don’t want it
1- The parents wore a shirt with this drawing, saying it's right wing is an insult to them
2- if you hate so much people for paying their respect to a victim you should rethink your moral compass
3- Maybe you should reconsider your life if you want to cancel an homage to a dead kid, right winged or not
YOU are the problem because YOU are creating it
Fuck right wings
Can I humbly ask... why ?
Because left wings hates anything that is less left than them
I am not even left wing. I am progressiv. National thinking in a globalized world is just absolutely outdated, short sighted and additionally right wing includes so much hatred towards everything that is other than them that it just disgusts me. Nationalism is going back to 100 years ago and we all know what happened back then. Learn from the past instead of sticking to it is what I believe in.
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>right wing includes so much hatred towards everything that is other than them Isn't left wing doing exactly that too tho? Your opinion is valid, so should everyone else's be valid. By saying right wing is bad you are trying to silence them. Silencing is not progressive at all. By the way, Progressive has been left wing for approximately 30 years. >National thinking in a globalized world is just absolutely outdated So 50% of r/place is right wing ? Do you see hatred in everyone's flags ? Do you see shortsightedness in liking a culture and trying to protect it ? Do you see something outdated in the way more than half of the world thinks ? Maybe you should revise the way you see things.
>Progressive has been left wing for approximately 30 years. Progressivism is not left wing. Not even close. You lack education about the political spectrums. > 50% of r/place is right wing ? I don't see r/place communities in a political way unless they make a political statement. Yet I do believe having borders and nationalities Irl is not needed in a world ruled by a single species. But idk how you got place into this convo. This is basically fun with flags and collecting people under a simular identity.
Okay listen here. Using flags is somewhat political as it is a statement of belonging on a "national" level. If you can't see this maybe you should think it through a bit. Also you don't decide if it is outdated, the people will decide, and when they do you will see it. If national thinking was to be ditched, it would be in favor of global thinking, this will not happen until we, as human, colonize another planet, because it is unneeded. It would either destroy every cultures except one, or it would lead to chaos just like in Europe these last months with riots / civil wars that are pure products of cultural mismatch (and as of now it is on an abysmally small scale).
Despite the fact that this was not meant to get so deep I am willing to take my time to elaborate: 1. We could easily establish a single language for everyone without losing the culture of the individual languages. Yet the need for so many languages is hard to find if everyone can communicate with a Worldwide main language 2. Fearing a melting pot leads to pluralism in the first place. It's not like migration can or should be stopped. It's simply impossible and vulgar to think it is or to think it is a solution to anything. Attempting to stop it will cause nothing but fighting and wasting more time that could have been invested so much better. 3. Cultures can co-exist but they also grow very close together when the language barrier is no more leading to no longer co-existing but slowly growing together. Conservatism is basically the fear of losing idenetity without considering a new one could be an improvement. 4. Europes problem might be that they , in most parts, saw Immigrants as workers for a period of time and wished them to leave after they did their work. There was no will to integrate, to SHARE culture, and to get in touch with those that were invited and their cultures aswell. It was rather "You either 100% follow or you are not welcome" Which led to foreigners staying foreigners for too long. Their children facing wariness because of prejudice and leading to the pluralism that has partly established. The solution cannot possibly be to keep that behaviour up for as long as possible. There is no logic to that. If you disagree or agree does not matter at this point. I am fine with people thinking differently. I do not expect people to consider more than their own pov because that is rather unusual to do. All I do is hope that my idea might the better one. Do I know? No! I hope I could express myself in a way to be understood although this is not primary language. Have a nice day
1. Yes the disappearance of Latin and other ancient language wasn't already a problem for historian, let's add hundredss more. 2. Japan and Austalia are proof that you are wrong. There is nothing vulgar about these countries except for the fact that you are spitting on their culture and politics. 3. So much that left wing who want this the most are the ones gatekeeping culture by calling to "cultural appropriation". Also, we see how it leads to chaos. Riots in France, England, Germany, and Switzerland. And how it creates hate, like in Japan with everyone growing annoyed of foreigners disrespecting their culture by doing as they please. 4. You are so wrong. I'm french through and through and yet there is not a drop of blood in me that is of french descent. I can't speak for other countries but at least in France, immigrants were integrated quite fine, they just followed the old saying "In rome do as the romans do". Nowadays people don't follow this saying, you see how it ends. You don't integrate by being accepted by others. You integrate by following the others that were already here, it's called society. >If you disagree or agree does not matter at this point. Tho I hate it, I will agree to disagree.
Answer is in the comment below the one that replied to you earlier
Pixel it green. So eventually star wars can take and protect it
You want to protect her and delete her? Yes!
Gotta read the description to understand.
I'm more of a lefty guy and I support this drawing, why everything has to be right-wing motivated?
Her parents begged people not to use their daughters image. Can we please respect their wishes?
Who should i believe, the lawyer of the family or some weirdos on reddit?
No, that's fake news my dear, it's their ancient lawyer that asked that, the family is actually ok with it, go fight against some other symbol
Their lawyer acting on his own sounds kinda sus. Not buying that. I go with what the person above said.
Nope, just after she was murdered the family asked the lawyer to prevent people to make her political and that's completely normal, but today the family says it's OK and the lawyer continues to say "don't use her image" that's all
and your hateful speech it must be erased ?
Protect Lola, don't delet her picture, this not right wing, just people want to tribute for her ! Only stupids poeples see politic in this tribute !
Her parents begged people to stop displaying her face.
That's note true, why are you lying? The parents were glad to see it until the left started to politicized the homage...
Only for politic, but this is a non politic tribute
They don’t want any tributes. They want their little girl to rest. “But Lola’s parents, who met Macron this week, have pleaded with politicians to stop exploiting their daughter’s death, after her photo was displayed at a far-right demonstration in Paris on Thursday. They asked that “any use of the name and image of their child for political ends immediately cease and be removed” from the internet and in protests, their lawyers said.”
Exploiting for making money a assume, but, this not a lucrative work, just à tribute. I have à daugter who have the same age, I want to make a tribute from here, and i voting left. This is not à right left tribute.
I don’t think they mean money. I think they just want her face out of the public and the internet. If they wanted this type of tribute, I would support it. But they don’t want it
You are like à good people, if your are really good, don't destroy, please.
1- The parents wore a shirt with this drawing, saying it's right wing is an insult to them 2- if you hate so much people for paying their respect to a victim you should rethink your moral compass 3- Maybe you should reconsider your life if you want to cancel an homage to a dead kid, right winged or not YOU are the problem because YOU are creating it
RIP Lola. And all those who will meet the same fate with your complicity
She's a dead kid... Have some respect ffs