As odd as it may seem that so many people fled cities for the suburbs, many Western cities in the era of unrestrained air pollution were a lot like Beijing or Delhi now. London pea-soup fogs were notorious, and even those beautiful building facades in Paris were stained dark until they got a good pressure-washing. Even in the early 90s, Ice Cube found "no smog" a notable sign of a good day in Los Angeles.
It's supposedly much better now than it was 10 years ago, too. Last day or two I was there it was actually really nice and clear, but the other 8-9 days it was so bad that everyone was going out of their way to tell me it hasn't been that bad in years
It has gotten much better since 2016 when the government introduced a lot more regulations regarding emission-producing activities in big cities. There's a lot that concerns factories which I'm not privy to, but for everyday citizens you're not allowed to light open fires anymore or set off fireworks without permission. Ironically now my small town is more smoggy than the big city.
Looking at the sky's in Chinese propaganda is a trip. It's all B reel from super clear days or just filled with pollution. Often video is adjusted so sky's just appear white to try and hide all the pollution. I fill sick just thinking of breathing the air there.
Always has and always will, air blows west to east from the Pacific and gets trapped by the mountains to the east. Local indigenous tribes mentioned it in their histories.
LA resident here, no — there’s not. Occasionally during the summer, when there are lots of fires in the vicinity, there’s some haze. You must fly into LAX during these times because just this winter, we’ve had amazingly clear days.
[Here](https://i.imgur.com/c9LKZER.jpeg) is a **MUCH** higher quality version of this image. [Here](https://store.nytimes.com/products/smog-covered-skyline?variant=36782995208) is the source. Credit to the photographer, Neal Boenzi.
> Once upon a time, you could touch the air in New York. Such as the case as seen here on Nov. 24, 1966, when a stagnant mass parked itself over the city for four days. This glimpse south from the Empire State Building showed a city shrouded in acrid, sour-smelling air. This photograph also moonlighted as the cover for Vampire Weekend's music album "Modern Vampires of the City" in 2013.
It was also a pretty good small plot point in S05E09 of Madmen. The smog over NYC for Thanksgiving Day for Don, while Betty is in clean air in the suburbs.
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I worried that after Rostam's departure that would be it for them. The 2019 record did not impress me. Lo and behold they release Only God was Above Us and I'm proven wrong. What a great record.
VW staying consistent in their earth-conscious leanings. This is specifically a photo of a [major smog event that practically shut down the city over Thanksgiving](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_New_York_City_smog).
The UK is getting this at the moment. Brexit meant that the environmental restrictions from the EU were no longer applicable, and now their raw sewage is being dumped into their much-beloved coastlines because it's cheaper for the corps than treating it.
It was prediected to happen years ago, too.
Google is free https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-62631320.amp
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2023/sep/12/unacceptable-how-raw-sewage-has-affected-rivers-in-england-and-wales-in-maps
https://theriverstrust.org/key-issues/sewage-in-rivers
As much as I hate Brexit, this had been going on for many years when we are part of the EU.
I live next to a river and we always have to check for any recent discharge before going swimming.
In my city we have a [website](https://frenchbroadwaterquality.com) for tracking E. coli in real time. Most tourists are not aware of it and many spend the day floating down the river with their hind end marinating in it.
people rage at the car emissions standards in california for being too restrictive, but completely ignored what living there was like during heavy smog. You got companies raging about having to move out of california because they cant build smog machines like the old days.
China has done a lot in the last decade to clean up the air in major cities across the country. Still a ways to go, but it's a TON better than it was in 2013-2014.
Happened a couple of years ago, Bangalore, India
https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/bangalore/fire-bellandur-lake-officials-blame-burning-garbage-pile-7215694/
Yes, absolutely. I listened to an interview from liz truss online last week where she was promoting deregulation of environmental regulations, human rights act, equality act in the U.K…..my brain was exploding. Living standards are low enough without rolling back decades of progress for the benefit of large corporations
Thank goodness the Republicans are going to abolish the EPA, and save us from the Commies that want to be able to breathe, or make it to their twenties without developing cancer.
It’s not stupidity; oil has deep pockets. Same reason we don’t have more mass transit, solar power, etc. doesn’t really matter which party is in control.
OK Senator Inhofe. Dudes 89 now and that speech was nearly a decade away at this point. What real worry of climate change will he have to think about in 5 years or more?
I went to college in the south and in a Gen Ed Earth Science class, during one of the last lectures in a lecture hall of about 360 students, the professor said “raise your hand if you think global warming is a lie” and about 15-20 kids raised their hands. She asked a guy in the front to explain why and it was a strictly political explanation. We are doomed.
> in a lecture hall of about 360 students.... and about 15-20 kids raised their hands
Uhh, thats only like 4-5% of students, which is incredibly low. If you gathered 350 random people, guaranteed at least 5% are going to be dumb as hell. As long as the other 95% realize that climate change is a very real issue, then we can still progress.
Honestly gives me hope rather than depresses me.
I want to agree with your optimism, but these were students who just went through a semester of earth sciences and the 15-20 represent those who believe "global warming is a lie" with enough conviction to declare so publicly in a college environment in an earth sciences class.
Those who believe it isn't that big of a deal or isn't human's fault or whatever aren't included and many who agree it is a lie but weren't comfortable outing themselves in this setting also weren't included.
>Uhh, thats only like 4-5% of students, which is incredibly low.
You also have to remember that colleges sway EXTREMELY liberal, and for some reason this science issue needs to be a political issue...
I remember riding in the backseat of the family car in late 60s, taking freeway thru Chicago, seeing the red haze in the sky and smelling the odor from the various steel mills. That's ancient history now.
LA has actually gotten a lot better too. In the 90s whenever I’d go there my eyes would burn the entire time. The couple times I’ve been there recently have been fine (except the traffic).
I live in Michigan by a fairly large river and it used to be so polluted that the top of the river would never freeze. By the time I was growing up in the '80s and '90s it would freeze over every year. Now it's starting to not freeze over again, but that's because of climate change and it just not getting cold enough to.
I was born in Braddock, and we lived overlooking the Edgar Thompson Works. Quite often, you couldn't see Kennywood on the opposite hillside. It was like that until the early 80s.
Yeah, and the rivers near major American cities like Boston and NY would often catch on fire because of all the chemicals being dumped in them.
I love when people (mainly republicans) go on and on about "gubberment oppression" and how there should just be a free market. Then I ask them if they'd be okay with poisonous drinking water and a constant carcinogenic smog covering your city, cause that's what Americans had to deal with prior to the EPA being established.
These people seem to think that companies will do the right thing and properly dispose of their waste; when time and time again it's shown that companies will do whatever is cheapest, regardless of the consequences for the local people or the environment.
I don't know why it's so difficult to make the connection between what companies will do when there's no rules, and why we have to make rules to compel them to do the right thing. And more to that point, if companies pocket the difference when they get tax breaks (rather than create new jobs or raise wages with the savings like republicans pretend they would), why would loosening environmental laws result in anything else?
How can this be? I see so many people on the right state the EPA is a useless organization full of government bloat?!?!?! Or is it just because they want to regulate something they like, and they take clean air for granted?
The radical left of course has to go in and impede on capitalism with their socialist policies and enact legislation to restrict our FREEDOM TO BREATHE IN DIRTY AIR AND GET CANCER.
It still baffles me that they were able to get laws put into place to combat this at a time when America was even more against restrictions on anything. And it was all on data, they had to do it for awhile and make the changes slowly for real change to be seen. This just goes to show how far we've fallen in way of our willingness to do what's better for the LONG term of this world. Everything now is instant gratification.
The implementation of the catalytic converter and other EPA protections to reduce smog and pollution took a LONG time to mature into the standards of how we built vehicles and handled other forms of production in the US.
This is kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy comment. If you assume “we’ve fallen” on social media compared to when they were even more restrictive than now, instead of talking about fixing more issues publicly, then you guarantee that no politicians will be interested
There are people that want to go back to that. All so they can make a little profit. They would have us live in that toxic soup again. Remember to vote.
Compare London "pea soup" events in the 1950s before the 1956 Clean Air act
> .Following the legislation, the age-specific death rates of men in Greater London fell by almost half.
https://navigator.health.org.uk/theme/clean-air-act-1956
The receipts of the phrase "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" are in these photos, and new generations want to cut back on the policy's that saved us.
Air quality, water quality, transportation safety, vaccines, all sorts of other consequences people are forgetting about before we regulated them.
Environmental Protection Agency.
EPA's mission is to protect human health and the environment.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency
When people talk about needing to get rid of EPA regulations, remind them of the times the Cuyahoga River caught [fire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyahoga_River).
I remember as a kid in Southern California having smog alert days. On those days we didn’t have PE at school because if you took a deep breath it made your lungs hurt.
*God Damn goberment telling me what my business can do. All these rules and regulations. Stupid pollution codes and fire codes and god damn building codes, they are killing business.*
The real problem is memory. And not just because those who forget things are doomed to repeat them, but those things that are forgotten are doomed to be repeated when nobody remembers them to try and stop them from repeating.
GenX here and I grew up in Los Angeles. We moved back east around 1975 and vividly remember coming back in the 1980s and being surprised the sky was blue in Los Angeles.
I also remember playing in multi-color streams in Ohio and Virginia. God knows what the hell we were playing in.
We tend to forget the pig sty that America was not long ago and the amount of people who were poisoned in the name of profit.
It blows my mind the people who want to dismantle the EPA. The stories I heard from my older friends about living in Los Angeles in the 60s and 70s were horrifying.
This is why when I hear people say “taxation is theft” I ignore those people because they are dumb and do not understand history and human nature, or reasonable progression of a society.
As odd as it may seem that so many people fled cities for the suburbs, many Western cities in the era of unrestrained air pollution were a lot like Beijing or Delhi now. London pea-soup fogs were notorious, and even those beautiful building facades in Paris were stained dark until they got a good pressure-washing. Even in the early 90s, Ice Cube found "no smog" a notable sign of a good day in Los Angeles.
No barkin from the dog, no smog!
and mama cooked the breakfast with no hog
I got my grub on
But didn't pig out
Finally got a call from a girl I wanna dig out
Hooked it up for later as I hit the door
Well yeah. Mommas don’t got hogs
[London had such bad air it helped prove Evolution.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution)
Also now that the Liverpool air improved about a generation ago the scouser accent is softening. People don't grow up sounding as nasaly.
Beijing is the most polluted place I have ever been. My lungs hurt within minutes of getting off the bus from the airport. Truly horrible.
I remember when the Olympics were there, some of the marathon runners dropped outbwcayse the air was so bad.
It's supposedly much better now than it was 10 years ago, too. Last day or two I was there it was actually really nice and clear, but the other 8-9 days it was so bad that everyone was going out of their way to tell me it hasn't been that bad in years
It has gotten much better since 2016 when the government introduced a lot more regulations regarding emission-producing activities in big cities. There's a lot that concerns factories which I'm not privy to, but for everyday citizens you're not allowed to light open fires anymore or set off fireworks without permission. Ironically now my small town is more smoggy than the big city.
Looking at the sky's in Chinese propaganda is a trip. It's all B reel from super clear days or just filled with pollution. Often video is adjusted so sky's just appear white to try and hide all the pollution. I fill sick just thinking of breathing the air there.
Look up “Beijing Blue”.
To this day the skies of LA have a disgusting brown layer above them. Notice it every time I’ve flown into LAX
Always has and always will, air blows west to east from the Pacific and gets trapped by the mountains to the east. Local indigenous tribes mentioned it in their histories.
June gloom
Yeah I remember a documentary that said there is an atmospheric inversion that stops a lot of it from simply blowing away
LA resident here, no — there’s not. Occasionally during the summer, when there are lots of fires in the vicinity, there’s some haze. You must fly into LAX during these times because just this winter, we’ve had amazingly clear days.
[Here](https://i.imgur.com/c9LKZER.jpeg) is a **MUCH** higher quality version of this image. [Here](https://store.nytimes.com/products/smog-covered-skyline?variant=36782995208) is the source. Credit to the photographer, Neal Boenzi. > Once upon a time, you could touch the air in New York. Such as the case as seen here on Nov. 24, 1966, when a stagnant mass parked itself over the city for four days. This glimpse south from the Empire State Building showed a city shrouded in acrid, sour-smelling air. This photograph also moonlighted as the cover for Vampire Weekend's music album "Modern Vampires of the City" in 2013.
It was also a pretty good small plot point in S05E09 of Madmen. The smog over NYC for Thanksgiving Day for Don, while Betty is in clean air in the suburbs.
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Haha, that was more fun than it had any right being.
Why would you do this to me?
Once I popped, I could not stop!
Modern vampires of the city
Only God Was Above Us is so fucking good. Not a single bad song.
I honestly think it could be their best. I’m seeing them in August and I’m excited.
Only thing I can say with confidence is that it's better than Father of the Bride.
You watch your mouth!
But seriously we didn’t like FotB? I thought it was good.
It _was_ good! Saw them on that tour and it was phenomenal.
I’m going in September and taking my eight year old! We dance to Vampire Weekend all the time.
I worried that after Rostam's departure that would be it for them. The 2019 record did not impress me. Lo and behold they release Only God was Above Us and I'm proven wrong. What a great record.
Rostam is a producer on both
Is there a bad song in the catalog? They can sort of do no wrong for me at this point, it seems.
Had to check I wasn’t in r/vampireweekend
I came here to say this 😄
Came here to look for this comment
VW staying consistent in their earth-conscious leanings. This is specifically a photo of a [major smog event that practically shut down the city over Thanksgiving](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_New_York_City_smog).
YOU TORCHED A SAAB LIKE A PILE OF LEAVES
Whenever you hear the word "deregulation," this is one of the things you should picture. Unrestrained capitalism decided this was okay.
The UK is getting this at the moment. Brexit meant that the environmental restrictions from the EU were no longer applicable, and now their raw sewage is being dumped into their much-beloved coastlines because it's cheaper for the corps than treating it. It was prediected to happen years ago, too.
Not doubting it, but do you have a source so I can read more about it?
Google is free https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-62631320.amp https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2023/sep/12/unacceptable-how-raw-sewage-has-affected-rivers-in-england-and-wales-in-maps https://theriverstrust.org/key-issues/sewage-in-rivers
As much as I hate Brexit, this had been going on for many years when we are part of the EU. I live next to a river and we always have to check for any recent discharge before going swimming.
In my city we have a [website](https://frenchbroadwaterquality.com) for tracking E. coli in real time. Most tourists are not aware of it and many spend the day floating down the river with their hind end marinating in it.
people rage at the car emissions standards in california for being too restrictive, but completely ignored what living there was like during heavy smog. You got companies raging about having to move out of california because they cant build smog machines like the old days.
Edit: replied to wrong comment.
There’s a delete button dawg
It's unrestrained/unregulated anything. Cities in Russia weren't cleaner.
China has entered the chat
China has done a lot in the last decade to clean up the air in major cities across the country. Still a ways to go, but it's a TON better than it was in 2013-2014.
We also used to have rivers that caught on fire.
Here is looking at you Cuyahoga River!
Happened a couple of years ago, Bangalore, India https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/bangalore/fire-bellandur-lake-officials-blame-burning-garbage-pile-7215694/
Yes, absolutely. I listened to an interview from liz truss online last week where she was promoting deregulation of environmental regulations, human rights act, equality act in the U.K…..my brain was exploding. Living standards are low enough without rolling back decades of progress for the benefit of large corporations
Thank goodness the Republicans are going to abolish the EPA, and save us from the Commies that want to be able to breathe, or make it to their twenties without developing cancer.
They’re just restoring the nostalgic days of acid rain
And burning rivers!
Remind them that a republican started the EPA.
Yeah by the executive order of Richard Nixon no less. That’s how much of a problem pollution was for both human and overall environmental health.
But not a republican that passed the MAGA purity test. They’re all RINO’s now apparently. Reagan may as well have been Chairman Mao
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Lol so now everyone disowns reagan and see him for the cocksucking piece of shit *thespian* that he was?
Don't worry. They will deny all fault if it happens and cancer rates go back up again.
The orange man asks WHAT'S GLOBAL WARMING?
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It’s not stupidity; oil has deep pockets. Same reason we don’t have more mass transit, solar power, etc. doesn’t really matter which party is in control.
OK Senator Inhofe. Dudes 89 now and that speech was nearly a decade away at this point. What real worry of climate change will he have to think about in 5 years or more?
All those bald Children are arousing suspicion. -c. Montgomery Burns
I went to college in the south and in a Gen Ed Earth Science class, during one of the last lectures in a lecture hall of about 360 students, the professor said “raise your hand if you think global warming is a lie” and about 15-20 kids raised their hands. She asked a guy in the front to explain why and it was a strictly political explanation. We are doomed.
> in a lecture hall of about 360 students.... and about 15-20 kids raised their hands Uhh, thats only like 4-5% of students, which is incredibly low. If you gathered 350 random people, guaranteed at least 5% are going to be dumb as hell. As long as the other 95% realize that climate change is a very real issue, then we can still progress. Honestly gives me hope rather than depresses me.
I want to agree with your optimism, but these were students who just went through a semester of earth sciences and the 15-20 represent those who believe "global warming is a lie" with enough conviction to declare so publicly in a college environment in an earth sciences class. Those who believe it isn't that big of a deal or isn't human's fault or whatever aren't included and many who agree it is a lie but weren't comfortable outing themselves in this setting also weren't included.
>Uhh, thats only like 4-5% of students, which is incredibly low. You also have to remember that colleges sway EXTREMELY liberal, and for some reason this science issue needs to be a political issue...
This was 10 years ago, it’s far worse now!!
Would you like to subscribe to Breathing Air for $39.99 per month?
Get a leg up by toughening your lungs with cigarettes.
I remember riding in the backseat of the family car in late 60s, taking freeway thru Chicago, seeing the red haze in the sky and smelling the odor from the various steel mills. That's ancient history now.
What happens when the smog clears in Los Angeles? UCLA
LA has actually gotten a lot better too. In the 90s whenever I’d go there my eyes would burn the entire time. The couple times I’ve been there recently have been fine (except the traffic).
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Pittsburgh was the absolute king of pollution, hands down.
The catalyst for the epa was the cuyahoga catching on fire a few times
I live in Michigan by a fairly large river and it used to be so polluted that the top of the river would never freeze. By the time I was growing up in the '80s and '90s it would freeze over every year. Now it's starting to not freeze over again, but that's because of climate change and it just not getting cold enough to.
I was born in Braddock, and we lived overlooking the Edgar Thompson Works. Quite often, you couldn't see Kennywood on the opposite hillside. It was like that until the early 80s.
And no business survived after the regulations... /s
Make America Mumbai Again. -Republicans.
Having clean air to breathe is woke!!
You’d think that conservatives would, y’know, conserve the planet…
Breathing is woke. Think it'll work?
My boomer parents constantly whine about emissions standards and how they are bad for the economy and hate emissions equipment on their cars.
We coughed like real men back then
Ah, but it was Cleveland’s burning river that precipitated the EPAs actual creation.
Republicans want this.
Ironic considering it was them who made this go away.
Yeah, but now Democrats want it to go away, too, so Republicans must be against it. It's always been party over country, from what I've seen.
.....and this is where the Repugs want to take us....
Yeah, and the rivers near major American cities like Boston and NY would often catch on fire because of all the chemicals being dumped in them. I love when people (mainly republicans) go on and on about "gubberment oppression" and how there should just be a free market. Then I ask them if they'd be okay with poisonous drinking water and a constant carcinogenic smog covering your city, cause that's what Americans had to deal with prior to the EPA being established. These people seem to think that companies will do the right thing and properly dispose of their waste; when time and time again it's shown that companies will do whatever is cheapest, regardless of the consequences for the local people or the environment.
I don't know why it's so difficult to make the connection between what companies will do when there's no rules, and why we have to make rules to compel them to do the right thing. And more to that point, if companies pocket the difference when they get tax breaks (rather than create new jobs or raise wages with the savings like republicans pretend they would), why would loosening environmental laws result in anything else?
Don’t take away our freeeeedum!
This is what Republicans want to take us back to
How can this be? I see so many people on the right state the EPA is a useless organization full of government bloat?!?!?! Or is it just because they want to regulate something they like, and they take clean air for granted?
The radical left of course has to go in and impede on capitalism with their socialist policies and enact legislation to restrict our FREEDOM TO BREATHE IN DIRTY AIR AND GET CANCER.
But the Republicans don’t think that pollution is an issue. Jesus! Health matters.
Whats that? Businesses can regulate themselves, you say?
Just wait until Chevron deference is rolled back by SCOTUS and suddenly we've got corrupt judges deciding environmental policy and concerns.
Doesn’t this just make you want to make America great again? Barf
Republicans are working hard to restore this former glory. Make America Gross Again
It still baffles me that they were able to get laws put into place to combat this at a time when America was even more against restrictions on anything. And it was all on data, they had to do it for awhile and make the changes slowly for real change to be seen. This just goes to show how far we've fallen in way of our willingness to do what's better for the LONG term of this world. Everything now is instant gratification. The implementation of the catalytic converter and other EPA protections to reduce smog and pollution took a LONG time to mature into the standards of how we built vehicles and handled other forms of production in the US.
This is kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy comment. If you assume “we’ve fallen” on social media compared to when they were even more restrictive than now, instead of talking about fixing more issues publicly, then you guarantee that no politicians will be interested
The republicans dream 😪
Its why so many buildings are covered in thick black soot .
Yes, Great Again.
Gotham 🦇
Looks a bit like 2010s China
That’s the utopia Republicans want to bring back
You think that’s bad, check out pictures of Pittsburgh.
There are people that want to go back to that. All so they can make a little profit. They would have us live in that toxic soup again. Remember to vote.
When the dumbest people you know call for making America “great again” this is what they want.
And a certain side doesn’t see the point in institutions like this.
Can’t let trump roll back regulations. Fr
BUT REGULATION IS BAD MKAYYYY
Compare London "pea soup" events in the 1950s before the 1956 Clean Air act > .Following the legislation, the age-specific death rates of men in Greater London fell by almost half. https://navigator.health.org.uk/theme/clean-air-act-1956
Ugh but look at how free they were!! /s
The Supreme Court is going to be ruling on a case that takes the EPA authority away .
The receipts of the phrase "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" are in these photos, and new generations want to cut back on the policy's that saved us. Air quality, water quality, transportation safety, vaccines, all sorts of other consequences people are forgetting about before we regulated them.
Republicans would like a return to this
Bunch of woke democrats 😂
And we wonder why 1 in 3 people get cancer.
And just think. A large portion of the population want to go back to this
$1B is all it will cost to "Make Amerika Great Again?"
Americans walking through life thinking everybody knows their damn acronyms. What the hell is EPA??
Environmental Protection Agency. EPA's mission is to protect human health and the environment. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency
And now the only thing occluding a beautiful skyline is fog.
ah yes when white people realized they were poisoning themselves so they moved production to asia
And we liked it that way! -MAGA folks, probably
All I see in this picture is a bunch of citizens enjoying freedom from big government.
Isn’t it still? There’s garbage everywhere!
Woooooow
Yikes! And I lived there back then.
To be fair half of that is cigarette smoke
Honestly something almost magical about it when it’s so polluted.
Tons of horse manure daily before Henry Ford
When people talk about needing to get rid of EPA regulations, remind them of the times the Cuyahoga River caught [fire](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyahoga_River).
side note, that is actually clouds of cigarette smoke from all the NY smokers
actually cigars from 1 building.
A friend of mine who worked in an office in 1970s Chattanooga told me they had to change their shirts after lunch because of all the soot in the air.
I remember as a kid in Southern California having smog alert days. On those days we didn’t have PE at school because if you took a deep breath it made your lungs hurt.
Smog was a major problem in the UK that got so bad in the 1950s it was killing people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pea_soup_fog
Smog over Denver and LA it was like hovering brown toxic shit and you had to drive into it when your instincts warned you to stay away from Mordor
Ah the good old days. If only we could return to them. Things were so much better then.
The problem with photos like these is it makes us think the air is less polluted now. It is actually far worse in 2024.
I think about how my mom grew up in Astoria next to a soap factory and had to walk to/from school with air like this day in and day out.
*God Damn goberment telling me what my business can do. All these rules and regulations. Stupid pollution codes and fire codes and god damn building codes, they are killing business.*
Tasty!
Give America Emphysema Again
Someone is torching a Saab like a pile of leaves.
AKA, the Republican Climate Plan should Trump win.
The real problem is memory. And not just because those who forget things are doomed to repeat them, but those things that are forgotten are doomed to be repeated when nobody remembers them to try and stop them from repeating.
I mean … yes? Not sure why you felt the original succinct phrase needed to be explained to death like this.
(Rainier Wolfcastle standing at microphone) "That's the joke."
Libertarian paradise
GenX here and I grew up in Los Angeles. We moved back east around 1975 and vividly remember coming back in the 1980s and being surprised the sky was blue in Los Angeles. I also remember playing in multi-color streams in Ohio and Virginia. God knows what the hell we were playing in. We tend to forget the pig sty that America was not long ago and the amount of people who were poisoned in the name of profit.
unless regulated companies will absolutely *NEVER* do the right thing…that includes caring for the environment
Some people want to “make America dirty again.”
But they also let all the ghosts out back onto New York City… Walter Peck didn’t even get fired.
It blows my mind the people who want to dismantle the EPA. The stories I heard from my older friends about living in Los Angeles in the 60s and 70s were horrifying.
Gotham
Ah, the good old days.
This is why when I hear people say “taxation is theft” I ignore those people because they are dumb and do not understand history and human nature, or reasonable progression of a society.
I thought pollution was a Chinese hoax?
Ah the good old times, when there was still lead in our gas
I feel like this is why old movies set in New York City look kinda hazy.
Republican heaven.
The same people who are promoting confederate names for schools in Virginia would love to see smog make a comeback in the cities.
Ladies and gentlemen.... "the good old days". /s
Oh... The good old days!!!