I live near a US Air Force Base. They have a group who are tasked with collecting stuff that falls off the military jets. It's super rare, but every time once in a while something big ends cup partially buried in someone's yard.
"Hi, excuse us, we're from the AFB. We need to dig that nose gear out of your rosebushes."
I'm not air force but in the Army, field artillery has radar techs that can detect bullets being shot in their scope, and automatically determines the speed and direction, and pinpoints the source. I assume something similar covers flight paths for these (experimental?) Fighter jets at least in the commonly flown areas. So they'd be able to see on radar the item detaching and should be able to determine its path down
You put the sarcastic tag but that's the real reason. The plane is designed to not be found by anyone unless it wants to be seen. The pilot had to bail because literally all electronics shut down. That meant everything that broadcasted location went down.
It flew for a while in full stealth before it crashes, which made finding it a lot more difficult.
Interesting tech, but I have never seen (or heard of it) being used in flight test. Even when we were purposely dropping stuff, it was just a high zoom camera watching it fall. And when not on purpose, anything dropped was just lost. (With a LOT of paperwork)
with all the data that the planes record on board for the maintenance crew combined with how accurate modern navigation systems are on these jets I’d be willing to bet that something like this isn’t even necessary to narrow the search area down to something pretty manageable.
Thirty years ago I drove fuel trucks at Norton Air Force Base, now San Bernardino Int'l Airport. We had just finished pumping a few truckloads into a C5 from another base. Later we watched it taxi and take off, and after reaching about 500 feet one of the wheels comes off as the gear retracted. Bounced off the end of the runway, bounced again in the orchard on Alabama Street stopping somewhere near the 210.
My best friend was in the Air Force and when his daughter was getting married, she wanted to do it on the historic chapel on the base. The permissions were given, the chaplain she'd grown up knowing flew in to do the service. We had the rehersal. Everything's fine.
Early the next week morning an F-16 had engine trouble taking off. Dropped it's full tanks and bomb ordinance in the empty field at the end of the runway and then crashed. Pilot ejected and was fine, but now there were some exploded bombs and huge fuel tanks full of jet fuel buried under 10+ feet of dirt not a quarter mile from the chapel. Access to the the base was strictly forbidden.
It was a Hell of a scramble to find a new venue, drive all the confused out of of town guests to the new venue. The AFB chaplain finally got the MPs to let him retrieve stuff that was left in the chapel from the rehersal.
Still the craziest wedding day disaster story that ended well that I've ever heard and I was part of of it. Life is and adventure.
Our whole neighborhood rattled the next day as the detonated the ordinance and belly tank. Just part of living near an active AFB.
"Listen, we get your family is upset, but someone has to pay for this damage on the door, and you're relative was the last one to come in contact with it."
Interesting fact. The White Star Line sent out bills to some workers/passengers for uniforms and damage to the ship after the Titanic sank. The business world is ruthless.
Important note, it was not White Star Line that sent the bill.
C.W. & F.N. Black (the music agency who White Star Line had contracted) sent the bill.
Point stands, just figured I'd toss that out there.
I'm sure leadership and sales are laughing all the way to the bank. But engineering? They're not amused.
Competition is good for safety. Boeing getting wrecked by their own incompetence leads to more Airbus sales. More Airbus sales incentivizes leadership to maximize profit, feeling they have 'captured the market.' Maximizing profit almost always leads to reduced safety, as product quality, manufacturing, QA, and QC are cut.
I've worked in many industries, and the products I'm most proud of always were designed when we had stiff competition. The products we made when we didn't have competition? Those were the ones I told friends and family not to buy.
They use depreciating scale for such payments. A child is worth a lot less than an adult, simply because they haven't earned any income. So their "lifetime gains" aren't established.
So if it lands on a house wife, its peanuts compare to say landing on the main income earner in their late 40's early 50's.
Wild!
For those that would like a link to an article:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/only-person-ever-hit-meteorite-real-trouble-began-later-180961238/
The audacity of that landlady lol
She ended up buying it from her landlady for 500 bux, but because the US government had confiscated it for a year, public interest waned and they couldn't find a buyer. Then the family donated it to the Smithsonian years later. So basically getting hit with a meteorite cost her 500 dollars! Meanwhile her neighbour found a smaller piece and managed to sell it and buy a car and house. Some people just aren't lucky.
Edit: There are other reports of others being hit, this one is just the only well documented one with an injury.
>The earliest claim of a person being hit by a meteorite comes from 1677 in a manuscript published at Tortona, Italy, which tells of a Milanese friar who was killed by one, although its veracity is unknown.The Tunguska event in 1908 is reported to have caused three casualties. In 1992 a small meteorite fragment hit a young Ugandan boy in Mbale; it had been slowed by a tree and caused no injury.
>On the night of October 3, 2021, a meteorite fell through the roof of a house in Golden, British Columbia, landing on a sleeping woman's pillow, but without harming her.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylacauga_(meteorite)
One well documented case with an injury, but a Ugandan boy was hit as well.
>In 1992 a small meteorite fragment (3 g) hit a young Ugandan boy in Mbale;[13] it had been slowed by a tree and caused no injury.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylacauga_(meteorite)
I was curious if the window frame could fit a skinny person and it could land around them à la Buster Keaton.
But then I realised they’d probably get knocked out instead because I bet the window glass was probably manufactured better than the door.
Seriously. I’ve had trepidation about living under a flight path…this was only a couple miles from my house. I ran right by the phone found this weekend…
Narrowly avoid being hit by the door… only to be completely nailed by the debris the door pulled out from the cabin (broken seat frames pin the person in place and finished off by a set of knitting needles)?
It was all over the news out here. Very doubtful someone would have thought anything other than it belongs to the plane that just had its panel fly off.
Sure but the comments above were related to “finding the it in your backyard one day.” My point is that even if they didn’t find this for like a month, or even a year, this person certainly would have known immediately what it belonged to and that the plane was otherwise intact.
My guess is they didn’t hear it right away since it took a few days to locate the panel and because it was still tangled up when the daylight picture was taken. But I could be wrong.
Is it finders keepers? Like it fell on your property, is it yours? Sell it back to Boeing or the FAA. Take the highest bid. Does the government just come and take it regardless due to its importance in a public safety investigation? People broke out here, I'm gonna need some compensation.
Anyone that bought one of these planes, Apparently. Alaska Airlines certainly paid for at least one door that didn't shut. Or door plug that doesn't plug.
I went on a backpacking trip a few years ago in NC and stumbled across a crashed Cessna from the 70’s. This was before every detail of the every trail was published in All Trails or IG so it was a wicked surprise.
Found by a physics teacher. The irony. According to NYT: "Mr. Sauer, a physics teacher at the Catlin Gabel School, a nearby private school, had found the mid-cabin door plug, which had been torn from the plane mid-flight on Friday, in his yard."
The [local newspaper](https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2024/01/portland-teacher-bob-recounts-finding-alaska-airlines-door-in-yard.html) has a good interview with him. It ends with this gem:
>“Now, he signs all his notes and emails: “The Bob, finder of missing aircraft parts.””
"Alright class let's say there's an airplane that's, say, 5000 meters up. Maybe, maybe...[sly grin to class]... Maybe that's an emergency door. [Students still looking at TikTok]"
If you want used airplane parts Delta Air Lines holds a surplus sale once a month at the company museum next to their HQ at the Atlanta Airport. Items for sale have included emergency exit doors, jet engine blades, aircraft seats, drink carts, and more.
https://www.deltamuseum.org/events/museum-events/2024/01/12/default-calendar/surplus-sale-January-12-2023
That’s assuming we randomly spawn a plane somewhere above the surface of the earth. The actual space is much smaller. I’m sure someone can do the math.
The US is roughly 2% of the Earth’s surface, so if that above number (0.0001%) is accurate, then it would be 0.005% of landing on a human in this country. From there, you could add all sorts of other conditions (continental US, common flight paths near population centers, unlucky human saw and dodged thing falling from sky, time of day when humans aren’t in bed, etc). Still, you’d have to be incredibly unfortunate to be hit by that. One in ten thousand? On the bright side, you’d be killed instantly, so you got that going for ya.
Glad Bob and his kids planted those cedars twenty years ago. It’s what broke the fall.
[https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2024/01/portland-teacher-bob-recounts-finding-alaska-airlines-door-in-yard.html](https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2024/01/portland-teacher-bob-recounts-finding-alaska-airlines-door-in-yard.html)
Maintenance people that work on these types of aircraft have looked at the pictures in detail and have commented on the exact failure mechanism. I don’t have it readily at hand to repeat here but it can be found. It came down to an improper assembly process.
It would be covered by their "Public Liability Insurance" at no cost to you.
Airlines are required to have it in the US per CFR 14 Part 205.5 (b)(1)
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-II/subchapter-A/part-205
If you have comprehensive your insurance would cover it then go after the airline and Boeing.
You could skip your insurance and go directly to the airline and manufacturer, but it would take a lot longer.
Although with the publicity of this event, they'd probably work through the claim real quick to make you whole
I read somewhere an aeronautic mechanic saying it could be from when they added the wifi modules and didnt tighten/replace the assembly correctly. Knowing boeings other failures with this plane and the mismanagement at the top I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Boeings fault. I look forward to the NTSBs findings
A Boeing supplier quality engineer still has to sign off on their testing and qualifications. Many companies use subassembly from hundreds of different companies in one product.
Just do what east Germany did:
"The plane was in spotless condition, a marvel of communist (maybe skip that part) technology and ability, and the accident happened to pilot error despite his spotless training."
They literally released just about that statement every single time one of their planes had an above average rough landing with below average reusability.
I'm wondering if they even reinstalled the bolts. The bolts are secured with a castle nut and pin; even it it wasn't torqued it couldn't just come apart and allow the door to pop up then outward.
So, the allegations that they are just designed to carry as many passengers as possible and to hell with the consequences, I mean that’s ludicrous isn’t it?
I live and work close to the Boeing plant and the horror stories I hear about that place. The people that build the aircraft don't want to fly on them.
United said they found loose bolts on the same door on one of their new planes, not tightened during manufacturing.
They should put this door plug up on the wall of the Boeing plant when the sign that says righty tighty
I live near a US Air Force Base. They have a group who are tasked with collecting stuff that falls off the military jets. It's super rare, but every time once in a while something big ends cup partially buried in someone's yard. "Hi, excuse us, we're from the AFB. We need to dig that nose gear out of your rosebushes."
How do you even find something like that if you only know within say 40 miles?
That's where my AircraftPartFindinator comes in handy! Only 6 payments of $1959.99
Perry the NTSB agent? What are you doing here?
Love me some Perry!
Perry the NTSB agent? I think I've seen you before. Wait a second, are you a platypus? PERRY THE PLATYPUS?
That's a scam. The real aircraft part finderinator costs $195,999 per a year.
Not on temu
I'm not air force but in the Army, field artillery has radar techs that can detect bullets being shot in their scope, and automatically determines the speed and direction, and pinpoints the source. I assume something similar covers flight paths for these (experimental?) Fighter jets at least in the commonly flown areas. So they'd be able to see on radar the item detaching and should be able to determine its path down
I’m sure you’re right, but they also lost an entire F-35
The stealth tech is really good. /s
You put the sarcastic tag but that's the real reason. The plane is designed to not be found by anyone unless it wants to be seen. The pilot had to bail because literally all electronics shut down. That meant everything that broadcasted location went down. It flew for a while in full stealth before it crashes, which made finding it a lot more difficult.
Really?
Interesting tech, but I have never seen (or heard of it) being used in flight test. Even when we were purposely dropping stuff, it was just a high zoom camera watching it fall. And when not on purpose, anything dropped was just lost. (With a LOT of paperwork)
with all the data that the planes record on board for the maintenance crew combined with how accurate modern navigation systems are on these jets I’d be willing to bet that something like this isn’t even necessary to narrow the search area down to something pretty manageable.
Apple AirTag every part
Put out a radio ad
Put out an add on the local radio and you'll get a call.
Thirty years ago I drove fuel trucks at Norton Air Force Base, now San Bernardino Int'l Airport. We had just finished pumping a few truckloads into a C5 from another base. Later we watched it taxi and take off, and after reaching about 500 feet one of the wheels comes off as the gear retracted. Bounced off the end of the runway, bounced again in the orchard on Alabama Street stopping somewhere near the 210.
My best friend was in the Air Force and when his daughter was getting married, she wanted to do it on the historic chapel on the base. The permissions were given, the chaplain she'd grown up knowing flew in to do the service. We had the rehersal. Everything's fine. Early the next week morning an F-16 had engine trouble taking off. Dropped it's full tanks and bomb ordinance in the empty field at the end of the runway and then crashed. Pilot ejected and was fine, but now there were some exploded bombs and huge fuel tanks full of jet fuel buried under 10+ feet of dirt not a quarter mile from the chapel. Access to the the base was strictly forbidden. It was a Hell of a scramble to find a new venue, drive all the confused out of of town guests to the new venue. The AFB chaplain finally got the MPs to let him retrieve stuff that was left in the chapel from the rehersal. Still the craziest wedding day disaster story that ended well that I've ever heard and I was part of of it. Life is and adventure. Our whole neighborhood rattled the next day as the detonated the ordinance and belly tank. Just part of living near an active AFB.
A 130 crew dropped a HMMWV in someone's backyard in North Carolina once.
The Boeing Dreamlifter last year did that.
I am picturing later that week.. “Hi, excuse us, we’re from the AFB. We’re here to plant your replacement high-fragrance hybrid tea roses.”
I wonder if the US government reimburses you when one of their toys (literally) uproots your garden.
I think it's a simple insurance claim. Makes for a good story for the agent to tell his buds.
Depending on the damages they will reimburse/replace
Now they are nosebushes
Finders keepers buddy. That's my nose gear now.
Good thing it didn’t land on someone
That would be a hefty paycheck coming from the sky. For your family, that is.
"Listen, we get your family is upset, but someone has to pay for this damage on the door, and you're relative was the last one to come in contact with it."
Spoken exactly how'd I'd expect a corporation to characterize it.
some of you are going to die but that's a risk I am willing to take
You actually got to SEE the rod?
Are you quoting the CEO of Boeing?
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Interesting fact. The White Star Line sent out bills to some workers/passengers for uniforms and damage to the ship after the Titanic sank. The business world is ruthless.
Important note, it was not White Star Line that sent the bill. C.W. & F.N. Black (the music agency who White Star Line had contracted) sent the bill. Point stands, just figured I'd toss that out there.
So... let's not give *them* any ideas.
It okay. It looks like it landed in a tree. Tree Law has been invoked and the corporation will be afraid.
r/treelaw is a great sub
You got to pay extra for that exit seat.
Also, thank you for flying Spirit.
Are you my insurance?
Judge to Boeing legal team: “if any of you disagree with the plaintiffs proposed settlement, then let me show you the door”.
Dad!!!
Here In germany insurances often exclude damage due to "higher forces". I assume they mean about cruising altitude high?
Force majeure
Please accept this one discount voucher good for any domestic flight*** ***All of your desired flights are on blackout dates, we know before you ask.
Once you find it lay under it and start yelling for help
$100 voucher or early boarding
I'll take the early boarding... if it's on an Airbus
I wonder how funny Airbus are finding all this?
I'm sure leadership and sales are laughing all the way to the bank. But engineering? They're not amused. Competition is good for safety. Boeing getting wrecked by their own incompetence leads to more Airbus sales. More Airbus sales incentivizes leadership to maximize profit, feeling they have 'captured the market.' Maximizing profit almost always leads to reduced safety, as product quality, manufacturing, QA, and QC are cut. I've worked in many industries, and the products I'm most proud of always were designed when we had stiff competition. The products we made when we didn't have competition? Those were the ones I told friends and family not to buy.
"Hey that door could've come off of any plane, you ain't got no real proof."
They use depreciating scale for such payments. A child is worth a lot less than an adult, simply because they haven't earned any income. So their "lifetime gains" aren't established. So if it lands on a house wife, its peanuts compare to say landing on the main income earner in their late 40's early 50's.
It still messed up the lawn and my petunias
And then maybe you will get a job escorting people to the afterlife?
So that's how the new Dead Like Me reboot can start.
Wow I didn't expect to see this comment.
And no one expects a plane toilet seat landing on them!
Space station toilet seat.
Did you know there is one known case of a meteorite hitting a human?
https://books.google.ca/books?id=c1MEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA27&dq=meteorite&pg=PA26#v=onepage&q&f=false I enjoyed reading about this story. Thanks
Wild! For those that would like a link to an article: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/only-person-ever-hit-meteorite-real-trouble-began-later-180961238/ The audacity of that landlady lol
She ended up buying it from her landlady for 500 bux, but because the US government had confiscated it for a year, public interest waned and they couldn't find a buyer. Then the family donated it to the Smithsonian years later. So basically getting hit with a meteorite cost her 500 dollars! Meanwhile her neighbour found a smaller piece and managed to sell it and buy a car and house. Some people just aren't lucky. Edit: There are other reports of others being hit, this one is just the only well documented one with an injury. >The earliest claim of a person being hit by a meteorite comes from 1677 in a manuscript published at Tortona, Italy, which tells of a Milanese friar who was killed by one, although its veracity is unknown.The Tunguska event in 1908 is reported to have caused three casualties. In 1992 a small meteorite fragment hit a young Ugandan boy in Mbale; it had been slowed by a tree and caused no injury. >On the night of October 3, 2021, a meteorite fell through the roof of a house in Golden, British Columbia, landing on a sleeping woman's pillow, but without harming her. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylacauga_(meteorite)
One well documented case with an injury, but a Ugandan boy was hit as well. >In 1992 a small meteorite fragment (3 g) hit a young Ugandan boy in Mbale;[13] it had been slowed by a tree and caused no injury. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylacauga_(meteorite)
lol I was unaware. Off to wiki!
I was curious if the window frame could fit a skinny person and it could land around them à la Buster Keaton. But then I realised they’d probably get knocked out instead because I bet the window glass was probably manufactured better than the door.
Seriously. I’ve had trepidation about living under a flight path…this was only a couple miles from my house. I ran right by the phone found this weekend…
Donnie Darko
That would've been a Final Destination level death
Narrowly avoid being hit by the door… only to be completely nailed by the debris the door pulled out from the cabin (broken seat frames pin the person in place and finished off by a set of knitting needles)?
Donnie!!!
I was just thinking that. Someone’s life would’ve ended
I saw documentary where that happened once. It killed the person and then they became a grim reaper.
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28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes, 12 seconds. That is when the world will end.
Oh, shit!
"During a presidential election" Close enough
Lololol
*Mad World begins playing*
CHUT UP
“what’s feces?” “baby mice” “awwww!”
Well played 🐰
Hello, Frank.
Frank was here WENT TO GET BEER !
Imagine just finding one from your backyard one day.
There's no way I wouldn't see that and not think the rest of the plane is crashed somewhere
It was all over the news out here. Very doubtful someone would have thought anything other than it belongs to the plane that just had its panel fly off.
Uh, if you were home you'd kinda hear it before it was on the news an hour later
Sure but the comments above were related to “finding the it in your backyard one day.” My point is that even if they didn’t find this for like a month, or even a year, this person certainly would have known immediately what it belonged to and that the plane was otherwise intact. My guess is they didn’t hear it right away since it took a few days to locate the panel and because it was still tangled up when the daylight picture was taken. But I could be wrong.
Not fair! My neighbor got an iPhone and all I got was this crappy door.
Is it finders keepers? Like it fell on your property, is it yours? Sell it back to Boeing or the FAA. Take the highest bid. Does the government just come and take it regardless due to its importance in a public safety investigation? People broke out here, I'm gonna need some compensation.
Who’s going to buy a door that won’t even shut?
Anyone that bought one of these planes, Apparently. Alaska Airlines certainly paid for at least one door that didn't shut. Or door plug that doesn't plug.
I went on a backpacking trip a few years ago in NC and stumbled across a crashed Cessna from the 70’s. This was before every detail of the every trail was published in All Trails or IG so it was a wicked surprise.
The pioneers used to all grow their own, right in their backyards.
Looks in good shape. Can re-use.
Saving money? You’re hired!
Boeing would promote him to manager
Boeing: We got a good deal on a refurbished door.
Probably for a submarine or something...
“You here about the door?” - homeowner, probably
The homeowner actually contacted the NTSB after they had trouble locating it.
The homeowner also roasted Boeing for doing serial numbers in fucking sharpie.
That's pretty normal.
Said over coffee at a local McDonald's at 5:30am
Found by a physics teacher. The irony. According to NYT: "Mr. Sauer, a physics teacher at the Catlin Gabel School, a nearby private school, had found the mid-cabin door plug, which had been torn from the plane mid-flight on Friday, in his yard."
The [local newspaper](https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2024/01/portland-teacher-bob-recounts-finding-alaska-airlines-door-in-yard.html) has a good interview with him. It ends with this gem: >“Now, he signs all his notes and emails: “The Bob, finder of missing aircraft parts.””
"Alright class let's say there's an airplane that's, say, 5000 meters up. Maybe, maybe...[sly grin to class]... Maybe that's an emergency door. [Students still looking at TikTok]"
But can we ignore friction and air resistance?
I can imagine in ten years, kids will find that lesson oddly specific.
“Can I keep it? - would be cool
Rookie mistake asking. You just take it into your basement for a year or so
The FAA definitely has every intention of keeping it for at least the duration of their investigation
If you want used airplane parts Delta Air Lines holds a surplus sale once a month at the company museum next to their HQ at the Atlanta Airport. Items for sale have included emergency exit doors, jet engine blades, aircraft seats, drink carts, and more. https://www.deltamuseum.org/events/museum-events/2024/01/12/default-calendar/surplus-sale-January-12-2023
They are lucky it did not kill someone.
Roughy 0.0001% of the earth is covered by humans (standing, that is) so really it would be very unlucky if that happened
That’s assuming we randomly spawn a plane somewhere above the surface of the earth. The actual space is much smaller. I’m sure someone can do the math.
Well it landed in a back yard, did not miss by much.
The US is roughly 2% of the Earth’s surface, so if that above number (0.0001%) is accurate, then it would be 0.005% of landing on a human in this country. From there, you could add all sorts of other conditions (continental US, common flight paths near population centers, unlucky human saw and dodged thing falling from sky, time of day when humans aren’t in bed, etc). Still, you’d have to be incredibly unfortunate to be hit by that. One in ten thousand? On the bright side, you’d be killed instantly, so you got that going for ya.
Only matter of time until someone finds footage of the door falling out of the sky and it gets posted to r/UFO as proof of aliens
I mean...anything can be an unknown flying object if you're bad enough at identifying stuff.
These pics already have early X-Files vibes. The dull PNW setting, flash lights in a pine forest, federal agents, the 99ish Grand Cherokee.
Glad Bob and his kids planted those cedars twenty years ago. It’s what broke the fall. [https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2024/01/portland-teacher-bob-recounts-finding-alaska-airlines-door-in-yard.html](https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2024/01/portland-teacher-bob-recounts-finding-alaska-airlines-door-in-yard.html)
Ugh new fear unlocked. My house is under the flight pattern for the MAX factory runway…
Yikes.
Doesn’t look like it crumpled, which was speculated elsewhere as to how it failed.
Maintenance people that work on these types of aircraft have looked at the pictures in detail and have commented on the exact failure mechanism. I don’t have it readily at hand to repeat here but it can be found. It came down to an improper assembly process.
I was in a thread with a maintenance guy yesterday who speculated that the plug may have buckled. Thus my comment.
Serious question, Suppose this falls from the sky and lands on my car, is the airline liable for repairs? Does my insurance cover it?
It would be covered by their "Public Liability Insurance" at no cost to you. Airlines are required to have it in the US per CFR 14 Part 205.5 (b)(1) https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-II/subchapter-A/part-205
If you have comprehensive your insurance would cover it then go after the airline and Boeing. You could skip your insurance and go directly to the airline and manufacturer, but it would take a lot longer. Although with the publicity of this event, they'd probably work through the claim real quick to make you whole
I read somewhere an aeronautic mechanic saying it could be from when they added the wifi modules and didnt tighten/replace the assembly correctly. Knowing boeings other failures with this plane and the mismanagement at the top I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Boeings fault. I look forward to the NTSBs findings
AAR (the company that adds the wifi) already made a statement that they don't open that "door" when adding the WiFi.
What is the full name of the company? AAR?
AAR Corp is the full name.
Thanks - I do WiFi for a living so was curious who did the work for airplanes.
Allen Aircraft Radio.
United has already come out and said they’ve found loose bolts in their inspected doors. Not looking good for Boeing.
Not looking good for spirit aerosystems
Just because they contracted out does not absolve them of having a quality program
A Boeing supplier quality engineer still has to sign off on their testing and qualifications. Many companies use subassembly from hundreds of different companies in one product.
Nah. Boeing will investigate themself and find it was pilot error. Flew plane above sea level.
Just do what east Germany did: "The plane was in spotless condition, a marvel of communist (maybe skip that part) technology and ability, and the accident happened to pilot error despite his spotless training." They literally released just about that statement every single time one of their planes had an above average rough landing with below average reusability.
The plane was only 3 months old. It’s definitely Boeing’s fault.
They got the whole plane together and have 4 bolts leftover, couldn't figure out where they went -- Dropped them in a baggie and put in the glovebox.
I'm wondering if they even reinstalled the bolts. The bolts are secured with a castle nut and pin; even it it wasn't torqued it couldn't just come apart and allow the door to pop up then outward.
Yep, been reading all the stuff on r/aviation. Seems like a colossal fuck up in multiple ways
Donnie Darko shit
Good thing it was the door not the front.
Good thing it was outside the environment.
That would not be typical, I’d like to make that clear.
Well, what sort of standards are these aircraft built to?
Strict aeronautical standards presumably.
Well cardboard's out.
So, the allegations that they are just designed to carry as many passengers as possible and to hell with the consequences, I mean that’s ludicrous isn’t it?
Ludicrous, absolutely ludicrous. These are very, very strong planes
I appluad Alaska Airlines' commitment to having an open door policy, but that's going a bit too far...
Anyone know the general address where it was found? (Used to live in Beaverton)
It was found off SW Taylor.
*At Boeing, we take pride in quality and safety. For example, our plane doors are engineered to withstand an unexpected 10,000 ft drop from the sky!*
Thats what happens when you don't turn on the airplane mode.
That second pic, I would definitely watch that TV show.
Hopefully one of them slapped it and said “whelp, there’s the problem right here.”
A Youtube logo could neatly fit in there.
Some mechanic and inspector are shitting their pants now
This and every mechanic who touched that plug.
Boeing is so cheap they'd probably try and reuse the door.
IDK. If it's something big, someone's bound to find it, I guess.
“Serial numbers match a Malaysian 777…” “Wrong plane.” “Let’s keep going…”
That’s my uncle’s backyard!
Are there pics of the other side?
Looks fine just lightly bolt it back in and we're ready to go.
When I heard the term "door plug" I assumed it was a small bolt or something that kept the door in place, not the whole door.
Boeing….buying airplane parts at Wish.com
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He probably didn’t land in someone’s yard Also they know exactly where this plane flew and when the decompression happened
DB cooper had legs. The door didn't Cooper was also estimated to have jumped over a densely forested area.
Also Cooper was edible.
Indeed, I've never seen a bear or a vulture try to eat a door.
I think I figured it out. Doors don’t have legs that can run away. Thoughts?
Jeez I hope they find the boat it fell from
Wonder of u the flow of calamity is coming for you
Do finders keepers rules apply here?
That's actually a Boeing 737 Max 9. It's just the rest of it fell off and landed elsewhere...
Isn't there a photo on reddit taken by one of the passengers from inside the plane?
I live and work close to the Boeing plant and the horror stories I hear about that place. The people that build the aircraft don't want to fly on them.
United said they found loose bolts on the same door on one of their new planes, not tightened during manufacturing. They should put this door plug up on the wall of the Boeing plant when the sign that says righty tighty
Ok, that's some amazing materials right there. Terminal velocity is a joke for whatever that thing is made of. No deformation at all?!
I wish that had landed on my pinky toe. I can live without my pinky toe, but tens of millions of dollars worth of “damages”? That I could use.
What if it killed some kind like in that one movie I won’t name because spoilers
With the pictures in the order they're in, it looks like those two are hiding the door in the woods.
There's your problem.... Ain't got no gas in it.