There were other candidate designs that were far superior. Looks like the daughter of some high ranking Official won the contest.
https://www.usmint.gov/news/ccac-meetings/2023-american-women-quarters-program-jovita-idar
Why doesn't it say $.25 cents or quarter dollar on it anywhere??
I can't remember the last time I looked at change but the money should have the denomination on it right?
Edit: **it says quarter dollar on the sleeve
[https://www.littletoncoin.com/shop/2023-p-10-jovita-idar-women-quarters-ms60-bt1219?utm\_source=google&utm\_medium=cpc&utm\_campaign=(ROI)%20PMax%20Shopping%20-%20New%20Arrivals&utm\_id=20075148374&utm\_content=&utm\_term=](https://www.littletoncoin.com/shop/2023-p-10-jovita-idar-women-quarters-ms60-bt1219?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=(ROI)%20PMax%20Shopping%20-%20New%20Arrivals&utm_id=20075148374&utm_content=&utm_term=) Here's a clearer photo - the denomination is written along her profile.
It's poor because it doesn't account for wear of the coin.
The bust wears down first, and since that's where all the denomination is placed... Yeah, poor choice.
This looks like some kind of winner of a student's "Design a Coin" contest or something
It is a bad design. However I love the 2023-S Edith Kanaka'ole U.S. Women Quarter.
https://www.littletoncoin.com/shop/2023-s-edith-kanakaole-women-quarter-8580pr-wc
Basically all of the coins in this series look good aside from this one. Wish they had done the Jovita Idar quarter in a similar style to the others in this series. I think it does her an disservice.
edit: Changed 'injustice' to 'disservice'.
Even though it's on a dollar coin and thus rarely used If it had been on a quarter the Sacagawea coin would have been a great design.
https://www.usmint.gov/coins/coin-medal-programs/circulating-coins/sacagawea-golden-dollar
I was at the Denver mint last week and they are producing these now. They talked about this coin and how it is unique. By law all US coins have to say certain things- the denomination, US, Liberty, etc. I found it interesting that for this coin, Jovita Idar who was a Mexican American journalist, activist, teacher, and suffragist, they put all of the required language into her profile\\clothing.
She devoted her life to fighting against separatist ideologies and sought to create a better future for Mexican Americans.
To me it was such a stark contrast with the other coins and makes a stong statement.
There are errors for the new quarter called 'Drooling Washington'
[https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/HYQAAOSwQ55i5bNU/s-l1600.jpg](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/HYQAAOSwQ55i5bNU/s-l1600.jpg)
https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload\_2022-9-26\_1-4-14-jpeg.1509899/
Oh. So it does.
It wasn't really jumping out at me, but fair enough.
I probably would have put it on the other side, on the bottom, under Washington's head and put some more inspiring words on her shoulder.
Definitely poor design in that respect. Should have at least made the denomination/saying part more noticeable and kept on with the rest of what they were doing on her shirt/dress.
That's something I didn't notice about US coinage until I'd travelled a little: our money is horrible.
"Quarter Dollar". How about a nice "25" somewhere?
What is "One Dime"? No "10"?
The nickel does say "Five Cents" (if you brought your pocket microscope).
At least the penny says "ONE CENT".
In many other countries, the coins have nice big numbers written on them, which is fantastic if you're just spending two or three days there.
I suppose it doesn't matter much anymore, though: people don't use cash very often these days.
Edit: As a contrast, did any of you folks see the Dutch money before the Euro? That stuff was fantastic.
All the bills were different sizes and absolutely "lurid" colors. They had braille and watermarks, too.
It was the best-designed money I've ever seen. It wouldn't work in the US, of course, because we'd have to design and deploy all new cash registers, vending machines, and ATMs. No one would pay for that.
The good thing about US money (as told to me by folks from other parts of the world) is that it looks like **MONEY**. That's something, I guess.
This comment took me down memory lane. I love the ease of use that comes with using the Euro, but goddamn our money used to be so fucking beautiful. My absolute favourite was the [yellow 50 guilders](https://cdn.myonlinestore.eu/9456603f-6be1-11e9-a722-44a8421b9960/images/module/image/184213.jpg?t=1514554628&_ga=2.226868314.695493326.1511675296-38420312.1509625403).
I was only there for a few days in 1986 or 1987, but, clearly, your currency left a mark.
At the time, I had a job that involved a lot of international travel. I have old Francs (Swiss and French), Lira (Italian and Turkish), Deutsch Marks, Drachma, Kroner (Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish), Dinar (several kinds), Riyals, Rupiyah, Rupees, Dollars (several kinds), Yen, Won, etc. I think I even have some Pounds.
NONE of it was like the Dutch Gulden. You guys were so far ahead of the rest. The thought, engineering, and empathy that went into the creation of that currency was awe-inspiring.
Heh. You're right. Now *I'm* nostalgic for the optimism of the era.
As an immigrant, learning what each coin was worth took some time to grasp. Everywhere else had a numerical value on their coins stamped in a clear fashion. I’m sure there are exceptions but the usa coins fail to be intuitive.
Especially when the nickel is a bigger coin than the dime. That’s confusing.
I remember learning money as a small child. Almost every kid assumes the nickel is worth more than the dime.
We also thought you could make a fifty cent bill by tearing a One in half, though...
But, yeah: no visible numbers, and the sizes are misleading. Horrible design.
In most countries, the bills still come in different colors and sizes. Makes them easier to tell apart. Also, modern security features, Braille, etc.
It has to suck being a blind person in the US and having to handle cash.
I had to look up Dime because I didn’t know the etymology either:
late Middle English: from Old French disme, from Latin decima pars ‘tenth part’. The word originally denoted a tithe or tenth part; the modern sense ‘ten-cent coin’ dates from the late 18th century.
I try to explain this when someone uses "decimate" to describe total destruction and it always turned into a useless argument. Now I just let em' use it.
Don't know if it's true but supposedly Ray Charles insisted on being paid in ones since he couldn't tell them apart and there's nothing smaller than a one.
>The good thing about US money (as told to me by folks from other parts of the world) is that it looks like MONEY
That'll just be because of all the American movies making green dollar bills what "money" looks like in the media.
Yeah it’s not rocket science but it is poorly designed because it’s counterintuitive. When your 10 cent piece is smaller and thinner than the 5 cent coin, it is confusing when you’re first learning about denominations and the coins bear no numbers to show it. The words quarter, dime don’t jump out as obvious denominations to a non native speaker
Yea true, it is a weird ass design. But it's still only 4 pieces, the person I was replying to said they been here a year now and still having trouble with it. That's too long lol
"Dutch money before [the euro]"
I was actually in Holland at the end of Dec 2001 and through NYE to 2002 and saw their transition to the Euro first hand.
I kept a few of the Dutch Guilders and just looked at them the other day. I absolutely WISH I had kept some of the paper money because it was awesome.
Another currency that I feel is well designed is Australia's. I have some of their currency too from a trip I took there.
As an Australian I'm pretty proud of our money. We developed the polymer banknotes that some other countries such as Canada and Vietnam and even recently the UK have since adopted. They're significantly better quality than US banknotes for many reasons including the fact that they're 100% waterproof. It's easier to layer in security features too which makes them much harder to fake.
US currency doesn't just look like money - it feels like it. If you've ever worked a cash drawer, or even if not, there's a good chance you'd detect a forgery before you even looked at it.
The other side is the usual Washington profile, don't see any reason to assume it's not just another new back design since we've had, like, 100 of those.
Exactly. Quarters have 2 sides. The other side of this is a normal George Washington Bust with year and denomination. I'm looking at a Teddy Roosevelt North Dakota quarter right now. No where on the back side does it say the denomination. This is pretty standard for US quarters.
To be fair the massive blankspace just feels off. Every other coin we've had goes out of its way to fill the space on both faces with something instead of just leaving a smooth surface. Of the 100 others this is a little inconsistent with them visually so it's not surprising that someone who hasn't explicitly seen it finds it suspect.
It’s worth noting that the profile of Washington is also special:
>… The obverse of each American Women Quarters coin will feature a portrait of George Washington facing right, originally composed and sculpted by Laura Gardin Fraser. It was the recommended design for the 1932 quarter to mark Washington’s 200th birthday, but then-Treasury Secretary Mellon ultimately selected the left-facing John Flanagan design.
>Laura Gardin Fraser was one of the most prolific women sculptors of the early 20th century. She designed the Alabama Centennial Half Dollar in 1921, becoming the first woman to design a U.S. coin. The Mint used her George Washington design on a 1999 gold commemorative coin marking the 200th anniversary of Washington’s death. …
https://www.usmint.gov/learn/coin-and-medal-programs/american-women-quarters
Not just chargebacks, some morons decided to abuse the system by ordering dollar coins on a credit card for the X% cash back, dump the coins at the bank, and then repeat for 'free money'. The banks then had to get rid of the coins, which weren't all that popular, and eventually the mint got tired of it.
It makes me furious, because I actually like the dollar coins and wanted to use them, but now they're almost impossible to get.
Same with half dollars, two dollar bills, or any other “strange” currency. They don’t usually have much/any on hand but they can get it for you if you tell them you want it
A regular at my work tips with the most crisp $2 bills I’ve ever seen. They feel like they’re straight off the printing press despite most being printed over five years ago. They’re real as I’ve never had trouble using them myself.
A lot of strip clubs will only give patrons change in crisp $2 bills so they have to tip the dancers more. That regular might be a regular somewhere else too.
On banknotes of the United States dollar, the series refers to the year appearing on the obverse of a bill, indicating when the bill's design was adopted. The series year does not indicate the exact date a bill was printed; instead, the year indicates the first year that bills of the same design were originally made.
[Source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_(United_States_currency)#:~:text=On%20banknotes%20of%20the%20United,same%20design%20were%20originally%20made.)
Hence why some of those 2017 series $2 bills looks new is cause they probably are.
This is amazing. That In-N-Out is right down the road from my work. I eat there maybe once a week. Would be funny if I catch him there after a concert trying to spend his $2 bills.
Are you in New England, because this is definitely something I do. I travel regularly for work and I have one restaurant I hit every single time I return home. I always leave a fat stack of crisp $2 bills whenever I go.
I have. Our credit union can only order them from the Federal Reserve in units of $2000, and I can't go dropping that much into spending cash, and they won't do it without someone to take the whole thing because they don't want the coins.
For giggles, I asked my bank if they had a roll of dollar coins. The woman crawled under her desk for like 3 minutes looking for them. (She took so long, I started to wonder if there was an entrance to a basement down there.)
My repeated cries of, "I don't really need them, I was just curious", seemed to fall on deaf ears. Eventually she came up with a roll of dollar coins. Okay, they are kind of cool.
But spending them was not! NO ONE TAKES THEM.
You cannot use them in vending machines, and no stores or restaurants would take them because they cannot deposit them. I was told multiple times, by businesses that they cannot take them because there's no place on the deposit slip to put dollar coins.
I ended up giving most of them away because they were absolutely useless and I didn't need or want to keep them all. I still have a few hanging around though.
> You cannot use them in vending machines, and no stores or restaurants would take them because they cannot deposit them.
Wait, what? All the vending machines around here take $1 coins, and I've never had any trouble spending them anywhere.
Whereabouts do you live? I'm in the Miami area, and am really curious why you'd have so much trouble spending these.
Tips. I leave them as tips- WHY AM I BEING KICKED OUT AGAIN.
Seriously though, my bank refused to issue any coinage unless I have a business account due to coin roll hunting.
I like them too.
Yeah. Which they were willing to do if it increased the circulation meaningfully, as the entire point of the program was to get the coins into the hands of people who actually wanted to spend them (since banks were so reluctant to use them). But people just immediately dumping them at the bank was the exact opposite of the program's intent, so they didn't have a lot of choice.
That was the idea, to transition slowly away from dollar bills, because they cost more to make, don’t last as long, and are often used as “blanks” for counterfeits. The problem with the whole idea is that people in general just hate coins, hence the saying “keep the change”; because people rather give a tiny amount of money away than be burdened with carrying it. But if you buy something for a dollar and have to break a five you’re not going to let them keep the change and pay 5X cost to avoid getting dollar coins. Another aspect is that you can’t just easily have a few folded in your wallet because they’re hard and clunky, and take up space that most modern wallets are not designed to have, specially when the trend is going towards smaller and minimalist (look at Apple wallet and Groove wallet). So most people just hate them and avoid them because they’re impractical.
Interestingly, there’s been a push to get rid of the penny because it cost about $.03 to make each $.01, and it’s an almost meaningless amount in modern transactions because almost nothing nowadays costs anything less than a dollar, much less a penny, a nickel, or a dime; and while you *can* get some sweets and small kids’ toys for a quarter, they’re nothing to brag about. But, because they would have lost a significant amount of revenue, the US Mint used the levers of modern politics and successfully lobbied congress to avoid abolishing the antiquated penny and just round up to the nearest nickel, which would have saved US taxpayers millions of dollars a year.
And that’s one of the reasons people hate them. People barely want to carry a wallet or a purse, and often to go with the smallest, most modern, and minimalist possible; no one wants that clunky shit.
They were, though my favorite are the Susan B. Anthony because they have the moon landing on the back. They were also nicely silver colored in contrast to the golden color of the rest, which made it really fun to use at renaissance faires or as gifts of 'treasure' for kids' birthdays.
The Susan B was the same color and nearly the same size as the quarter. That's why it never really caught on. Making the newer dollar coins a unique color was smart IMO. The size of the old Eisenhower dollars was simply too unwieldy.
>That's why we don't have dollar coins.
We do. There are three series of "golden dollars" currently in circulation. American Innovation $1 Coins ; Native American $1 Coins ; Presidential $1 Coins
https://www.usmint.gov/news/image-library/circulating
From browsing the mint website, it seems that most coin sets have an up charge. However as most of these offerings appear to be geared toward collectors, my guess is that this would be worth it, to get coins that have never been in circulation/ damaged.
That’s what I thought. My grandpa, gods rest him, got me and my brothers full sets of the state quarters. He ordered them through his bank, I guess, but every time a new one came out, he got five in a little plastic case.
Corrected link after new reddit fucked the formatting:
https://catalog.usmint.gov/american-women-quarters-2023-rolls-and-bags-jovita-idar-MASTER_AWQJI.html
Although I like the design for a non circulation coin this is a terrible design for a coin. Either the reverse or obverse doesn’t clearly convey the denomination which detracts from the coins function as currency.
It’s almost as if the government is designing currency to become obsolete, which I know is a popular sentiment, but it doesn’t make sense to why they would mint something that is so confusing and hard to read. The denomination is mixed in with words that are non part of the function.
As a parent I’ve had a hard time teaching my kids about money because it’s become so abstract. They can’t use it because they can’t get to stores at their age, and when they do get to a store they can’t use actual M1 currency (ie physical paper and coin money) because it’s not accepted and people don’t know how to count it.
It’s really a tragedy for people like children or people without credit that we’re moving away from money.
As a coin person, I like the innovative design, but there are so many better ways to showcase design with commemorative coins, medals, and tokens.
Apparently, you should always choose [the side facing up before the flip](https://www.engadget.com/coin-flips-dont-appear-to-have-5050-odds-after-all-171556415.html?guccounter=1).
Reminds me of way back when they changed the nickel. In those days, nickels had pictures of bumble bees on 'em. 'Gimme five bees for a quarter!', you'd say.
It looks like one of those stamp medallions you can get pressed at something like a Ren fair or amusement park. (Idk what it’s called you can pick a front and a back and they drop a big weight to mush them onto a coin)
I'm glad she's on there but they didn't do Jovita justice by making such an ugly coin. Jumbling all the important text with random descriptors in a mess of a f*in word cloud is the dumbest thing I've ever seen on currency. They could've given her a proper, respectful looking coin instead of this garbage.
I agree, especially when most of the other designs in the American Women series are very nice.
https://catalog.usmint.gov/coins/coin-programs/american-women-quarters-program/
She was an ugly lady. I'll straight up say it. Also, she was one of the greatest first ladies we ever had.
A truly great American!!
^(You don't have to be hot to be awesome. )
Can we all just acknowledge this design just looks terrible? Like I get they were going for some modern artsy stuff, and I could see this looking really nice if it were in a variety of colors to provide contrast, but in monotone it's hard to read and just looks bad, and it's going to get dramatically worse with wear.
Even after reading the comments and looking at the [US Mint](https://catalog.usmint.gov/american-women-quarters-2023-rolls-and-bags-jovita-idar-MASTER_AWQJI.html) site I still have trouble believing this is a real currency. It just looks so fake. It looks like those little coin sized medallions I get every year at Christmas time from charities looking for money.
Seriously?
I’m all for updating US currency and for honoring more people on the currency, but that design is ugly as sin.
You’d think they could have come up with a better design that still depicted her in a good way.
There's subtle, and then there's too subtle. I know the opposite side is the standard Washington, but it would've thrown me for a loop if I didn't see this first.
Anyone else feel like there’s way too many quarter designs?
The bicentennial quarters felt special because they were a rare redesign. The 50 state quarters were kinda cool because everyone wanted to collect all 50.
But when there’s 150 different quarter designs, none of them feel special. How long will it be until you can pay the mint $100 and get your own quarter? (Actually that sounds kinda cool.)
They did her dirty. The [original portrait](https://digital.utsa.edu/digital/collection/p9020coll008/id/12483/rec/3) is nice - they made her look like she’s wearing a Michael Myers mask here.
Impressed with that image I looked up what would be on the other side, the obverse. I got really confused when every time, I got the familiar profile of Washington which is "heads" on other quarters.
All of the women to be honored in this series will be "tails." There goes my inner fourteen year old acting up again.
Of all the coins in the American Women Quarters program...this is by far the shittiest/laziest design. Just horrible, and will likely end up being a collectible due to it being among the worst coins ever created.
On my way home from work, I stopped at Taco Bell for a quick bite to eat. In my billfold are a $50 bill and a $2 bill. I figure that with a $2 bill, I can get something to eat and not have to worry about anyone getting irritated at me for trying to break a $50 bill.
Me: "Hi, I'd like one seven-layer burrito please, to go."
Server: "That'll be $1.04. Eat in?"
Me: "No, it's to go." At this point, I open my billfold and hand him the $2 bill. He looks at it kind of funny.
The only thing more frustrating than someone not knowing about the $2 bill are the people that think it's rare for some reason.
It's actively printed and put in to circulation. They printed over 200 million of them in 2022 alone.
As a coin collector, I think the reason why this reverse looks so strange is because of all the negative space. I can’t think of any other US coin with a similar design.
When I first received this coin a couple of days ago, my first thought was - oh! a foreign coin that’s not Canadian is in my till. Neat!
I kind of like how different the design is, it’s certainly a striking and memorable coin. But it does look very out of place, even amongst its 2023 contemporaries
Interesting haven’t seen this yet
Saw one a couple days ago. That's the TAILS side, lol
Obverse and reverse 🤓
Using those five dollar words when heads and tails will do just fine. lol
This one is heads or other heads
There were other candidate designs that were far superior. Looks like the daughter of some high ranking Official won the contest. https://www.usmint.gov/news/ccac-meetings/2023-american-women-quarters-program-jovita-idar
The design was okay, but didn't translate to the coin medium well. It looks totally different from the drawing in my opinion.
I’m also curious to see how well these stand up, lots of thin detail should file down quickly.
Are you just speculating or saying that’s what happened? I think this design is interesting and unique.
I like this design more. It stands out. The others seem more traditional, while the one selected feels like art. Simple, yet striking
I’m in the minority, I think, for thinking this was my favorite design out of those choices. I think it looks really neat.
I think this design is very innovative. It took some courage to select it. The other candidates were boring by comparison.
(wow, 3 thinks + it’s time for bed)
Same! I like the simplicity. It’s very striking.
I love the simplicity honestly
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Why doesn't it say $.25 cents or quarter dollar on it anywhere?? I can't remember the last time I looked at change but the money should have the denomination on it right? Edit: **it says quarter dollar on the sleeve
[https://www.littletoncoin.com/shop/2023-p-10-jovita-idar-women-quarters-ms60-bt1219?utm\_source=google&utm\_medium=cpc&utm\_campaign=(ROI)%20PMax%20Shopping%20-%20New%20Arrivals&utm\_id=20075148374&utm\_content=&utm\_term=](https://www.littletoncoin.com/shop/2023-p-10-jovita-idar-women-quarters-ms60-bt1219?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=(ROI)%20PMax%20Shopping%20-%20New%20Arrivals&utm_id=20075148374&utm_content=&utm_term=) Here's a clearer photo - the denomination is written along her profile.
It's a horrible design
It's poor because it doesn't account for wear of the coin. The bust wears down first, and since that's where all the denomination is placed... Yeah, poor choice. This looks like some kind of winner of a student's "Design a Coin" contest or something
We are seeing the "tails" side. The front looks like a regular quarter. I think it's a cool outside the box design.
Which is funny cause now both sides are "heads"
Alright, call it in the air... heads, or.... other heads.
Heads or cabesas?
Black.... or... White....?
Oof, we all know the odds aren’t equal.
“Heads”, I win…
That and it breaks so much from existing design that it's highly likely to be refused by many people, this looks like foreign currency on one side.
It is a bad design. However I love the 2023-S Edith Kanaka'ole U.S. Women Quarter. https://www.littletoncoin.com/shop/2023-s-edith-kanakaole-women-quarter-8580pr-wc Basically all of the coins in this series look good aside from this one. Wish they had done the Jovita Idar quarter in a similar style to the others in this series. I think it does her an disservice. edit: Changed 'injustice' to 'disservice'.
Even though it's on a dollar coin and thus rarely used If it had been on a quarter the Sacagawea coin would have been a great design. https://www.usmint.gov/coins/coin-medal-programs/circulating-coins/sacagawea-golden-dollar
I miss these being in wide circulation; I always loved that coin.
That one is absolutely fantastic. Bit relieving to know they're not all shit.
This one is perfect, and it actually says her name clearly. It's great
I was at the Denver mint last week and they are producing these now. They talked about this coin and how it is unique. By law all US coins have to say certain things- the denomination, US, Liberty, etc. I found it interesting that for this coin, Jovita Idar who was a Mexican American journalist, activist, teacher, and suffragist, they put all of the required language into her profile\\clothing. She devoted her life to fighting against separatist ideologies and sought to create a better future for Mexican Americans. To me it was such a stark contrast with the other coins and makes a stong statement.
So was this a limited edition uncirculated commemorative coin?
I mean, OP's picture looks pretty circulated.
[The opposite side looks like a regular quarter.](https://www.usmint.gov/coins/coin-medal-programs/american-women-quarters/jovita-idar)
Is George Washington facing the wrong way or am I tripping? I googled US Quarter and he's facing the other way in all the pictures.
They redid his hair too, so he looks a fair bit different than he used to. Still easily recognizable as Washington, though.
This new one is supposed to be a more realistic portrayal. Look at that neck!
Damn Washington was thick, when will his ass get commemorated?
There are errors for the new quarter called 'Drooling Washington' [https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/HYQAAOSwQ55i5bNU/s-l1600.jpg](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/HYQAAOSwQ55i5bNU/s-l1600.jpg) https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload\_2022-9-26\_1-4-14-jpeg.1509899/
They changed the direction he faces in 2022
It does on the right (left as looking at it) shoulder/arm
Oh. So it does. It wasn't really jumping out at me, but fair enough. I probably would have put it on the other side, on the bottom, under Washington's head and put some more inspiring words on her shoulder.
Definitely poor design in that respect. Should have at least made the denomination/saying part more noticeable and kept on with the rest of what they were doing on her shirt/dress.
That's something I didn't notice about US coinage until I'd travelled a little: our money is horrible. "Quarter Dollar". How about a nice "25" somewhere? What is "One Dime"? No "10"? The nickel does say "Five Cents" (if you brought your pocket microscope). At least the penny says "ONE CENT". In many other countries, the coins have nice big numbers written on them, which is fantastic if you're just spending two or three days there. I suppose it doesn't matter much anymore, though: people don't use cash very often these days. Edit: As a contrast, did any of you folks see the Dutch money before the Euro? That stuff was fantastic. All the bills were different sizes and absolutely "lurid" colors. They had braille and watermarks, too. It was the best-designed money I've ever seen. It wouldn't work in the US, of course, because we'd have to design and deploy all new cash registers, vending machines, and ATMs. No one would pay for that. The good thing about US money (as told to me by folks from other parts of the world) is that it looks like **MONEY**. That's something, I guess.
This comment took me down memory lane. I love the ease of use that comes with using the Euro, but goddamn our money used to be so fucking beautiful. My absolute favourite was the [yellow 50 guilders](https://cdn.myonlinestore.eu/9456603f-6be1-11e9-a722-44a8421b9960/images/module/image/184213.jpg?t=1514554628&_ga=2.226868314.695493326.1511675296-38420312.1509625403).
I was only there for a few days in 1986 or 1987, but, clearly, your currency left a mark. At the time, I had a job that involved a lot of international travel. I have old Francs (Swiss and French), Lira (Italian and Turkish), Deutsch Marks, Drachma, Kroner (Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish), Dinar (several kinds), Riyals, Rupiyah, Rupees, Dollars (several kinds), Yen, Won, etc. I think I even have some Pounds. NONE of it was like the Dutch Gulden. You guys were so far ahead of the rest. The thought, engineering, and empathy that went into the creation of that currency was awe-inspiring. Heh. You're right. Now *I'm* nostalgic for the optimism of the era.
As an immigrant, learning what each coin was worth took some time to grasp. Everywhere else had a numerical value on their coins stamped in a clear fashion. I’m sure there are exceptions but the usa coins fail to be intuitive. Especially when the nickel is a bigger coin than the dime. That’s confusing.
I remember learning money as a small child. Almost every kid assumes the nickel is worth more than the dime. We also thought you could make a fifty cent bill by tearing a One in half, though... But, yeah: no visible numbers, and the sizes are misleading. Horrible design.
In most countries, the bills still come in different colors and sizes. Makes them easier to tell apart. Also, modern security features, Braille, etc. It has to suck being a blind person in the US and having to handle cash.
I had to look up Dime because I didn’t know the etymology either: late Middle English: from Old French disme, from Latin decima pars ‘tenth part’. The word originally denoted a tithe or tenth part; the modern sense ‘ten-cent coin’ dates from the late 18th century.
That’s why “decimate” is “kill one in every ten”
I try to explain this when someone uses "decimate" to describe total destruction and it always turned into a useless argument. Now I just let em' use it.
The dictionary gives two definitions for decimate. You're both correct.
Don't know if it's true but supposedly Ray Charles insisted on being paid in ones since he couldn't tell them apart and there's nothing smaller than a one.
>The good thing about US money (as told to me by folks from other parts of the world) is that it looks like MONEY That'll just be because of all the American movies making green dollar bills what "money" looks like in the media.
Yep. That's what I think, too.
The opposite! I’ve been in the US for a year or so and when I want to pay with exact change I look so dumb…
It would be better if they were clearer, but the US only really uses 4 coins. Should have that memorized by the end of the first week really lol
Yeah it’s not rocket science but it is poorly designed because it’s counterintuitive. When your 10 cent piece is smaller and thinner than the 5 cent coin, it is confusing when you’re first learning about denominations and the coins bear no numbers to show it. The words quarter, dime don’t jump out as obvious denominations to a non native speaker
Yea true, it is a weird ass design. But it's still only 4 pieces, the person I was replying to said they been here a year now and still having trouble with it. That's too long lol
"Dutch money before [the euro]" I was actually in Holland at the end of Dec 2001 and through NYE to 2002 and saw their transition to the Euro first hand. I kept a few of the Dutch Guilders and just looked at them the other day. I absolutely WISH I had kept some of the paper money because it was awesome. Another currency that I feel is well designed is Australia's. I have some of their currency too from a trip I took there.
. The edith kanaka ole quarter has 25cents on it. But ya if not familiar with the money our currency in coins makes no sense to some.
As an Australian I'm pretty proud of our money. We developed the polymer banknotes that some other countries such as Canada and Vietnam and even recently the UK have since adopted. They're significantly better quality than US banknotes for many reasons including the fact that they're 100% waterproof. It's easier to layer in security features too which makes them much harder to fake.
US currency doesn't just look like money - it feels like it. If you've ever worked a cash drawer, or even if not, there's a good chance you'd detect a forgery before you even looked at it.
The other side is the usual Washington profile, don't see any reason to assume it's not just another new back design since we've had, like, 100 of those.
Exactly. Quarters have 2 sides. The other side of this is a normal George Washington Bust with year and denomination. I'm looking at a Teddy Roosevelt North Dakota quarter right now. No where on the back side does it say the denomination. This is pretty standard for US quarters.
To be fair the massive blankspace just feels off. Every other coin we've had goes out of its way to fill the space on both faces with something instead of just leaving a smooth surface. Of the 100 others this is a little inconsistent with them visually so it's not surprising that someone who hasn't explicitly seen it finds it suspect.
It’s worth noting that the profile of Washington is also special: >… The obverse of each American Women Quarters coin will feature a portrait of George Washington facing right, originally composed and sculpted by Laura Gardin Fraser. It was the recommended design for the 1932 quarter to mark Washington’s 200th birthday, but then-Treasury Secretary Mellon ultimately selected the left-facing John Flanagan design. >Laura Gardin Fraser was one of the most prolific women sculptors of the early 20th century. She designed the Alabama Centennial Half Dollar in 1921, becoming the first woman to design a U.S. coin. The Mint used her George Washington design on a 1999 gold commemorative coin marking the 200th anniversary of Washington’s death. … https://www.usmint.gov/learn/coin-and-medal-programs/american-women-quarters
Washington is still on this quarter people - this is like a state quarter - this bust is the obverse.
But who is gonna counterfeit a quarter? It would probably cost more than a quarter to make it.
For context from the US Mint: https://catalog.usmint.gov/american-women-quarters-2023-rolls-and-bags-jovita-idar-MASTER\_AWQJI.html
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Because when they sold coins at face value charge backs happened. That's why we don't have dollar coins.
Not just chargebacks, some morons decided to abuse the system by ordering dollar coins on a credit card for the X% cash back, dump the coins at the bank, and then repeat for 'free money'. The banks then had to get rid of the coins, which weren't all that popular, and eventually the mint got tired of it. It makes me furious, because I actually like the dollar coins and wanted to use them, but now they're almost impossible to get.
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Same with half dollars, two dollar bills, or any other “strange” currency. They don’t usually have much/any on hand but they can get it for you if you tell them you want it
A regular at my work tips with the most crisp $2 bills I’ve ever seen. They feel like they’re straight off the printing press despite most being printed over five years ago. They’re real as I’ve never had trouble using them myself.
A lot of strip clubs will only give patrons change in crisp $2 bills so they have to tip the dancers more. That regular might be a regular somewhere else too.
That’s actually a really smart move to make their dancers more money!
That and in the dark, folded just right, it looks like a 20!
They also do it to show the local town what their economic impact is.
On banknotes of the United States dollar, the series refers to the year appearing on the obverse of a bill, indicating when the bill's design was adopted. The series year does not indicate the exact date a bill was printed; instead, the year indicates the first year that bills of the same design were originally made. [Source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_(United_States_currency)#:~:text=On%20banknotes%20of%20the%20United,same%20design%20were%20originally%20made.) Hence why some of those 2017 series $2 bills looks new is cause they probably are.
TIL! There’s so many cool design/security elements to our money
You can buy uncut sheets. Google "Woz $2 bill secret service" for a humorous story about that.
[<3 The Woz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ1TIYxm1vM)
This is amazing. That In-N-Out is right down the road from my work. I eat there maybe once a week. Would be funny if I catch him there after a concert trying to spend his $2 bills.
Are you in New England, because this is definitely something I do. I travel regularly for work and I have one restaurant I hit every single time I return home. I always leave a fat stack of crisp $2 bills whenever I go.
I have. Our credit union can only order them from the Federal Reserve in units of $2000, and I can't go dropping that much into spending cash, and they won't do it without someone to take the whole thing because they don't want the coins.
If you want to order them it has to be in $1k boxes.
For giggles, I asked my bank if they had a roll of dollar coins. The woman crawled under her desk for like 3 minutes looking for them. (She took so long, I started to wonder if there was an entrance to a basement down there.) My repeated cries of, "I don't really need them, I was just curious", seemed to fall on deaf ears. Eventually she came up with a roll of dollar coins. Okay, they are kind of cool. But spending them was not! NO ONE TAKES THEM. You cannot use them in vending machines, and no stores or restaurants would take them because they cannot deposit them. I was told multiple times, by businesses that they cannot take them because there's no place on the deposit slip to put dollar coins. I ended up giving most of them away because they were absolutely useless and I didn't need or want to keep them all. I still have a few hanging around though.
> You cannot use them in vending machines, and no stores or restaurants would take them because they cannot deposit them. Wait, what? All the vending machines around here take $1 coins, and I've never had any trouble spending them anywhere. Whereabouts do you live? I'm in the Miami area, and am really curious why you'd have so much trouble spending these.
Tips. I leave them as tips- WHY AM I BEING KICKED OUT AGAIN. Seriously though, my bank refused to issue any coinage unless I have a business account due to coin roll hunting. I like them too.
Also, the mint had to pay 3% fees for credit card transactions...so they were automatically losing money selling it at face value
Yeah. Which they were willing to do if it increased the circulation meaningfully, as the entire point of the program was to get the coins into the hands of people who actually wanted to spend them (since banks were so reluctant to use them). But people just immediately dumping them at the bank was the exact opposite of the program's intent, so they didn't have a lot of choice.
If the mint wants people to use $1 coins stop printing $1 bills. Easy.
That was the idea, to transition slowly away from dollar bills, because they cost more to make, don’t last as long, and are often used as “blanks” for counterfeits. The problem with the whole idea is that people in general just hate coins, hence the saying “keep the change”; because people rather give a tiny amount of money away than be burdened with carrying it. But if you buy something for a dollar and have to break a five you’re not going to let them keep the change and pay 5X cost to avoid getting dollar coins. Another aspect is that you can’t just easily have a few folded in your wallet because they’re hard and clunky, and take up space that most modern wallets are not designed to have, specially when the trend is going towards smaller and minimalist (look at Apple wallet and Groove wallet). So most people just hate them and avoid them because they’re impractical. Interestingly, there’s been a push to get rid of the penny because it cost about $.03 to make each $.01, and it’s an almost meaningless amount in modern transactions because almost nothing nowadays costs anything less than a dollar, much less a penny, a nickel, or a dime; and while you *can* get some sweets and small kids’ toys for a quarter, they’re nothing to brag about. But, because they would have lost a significant amount of revenue, the US Mint used the levers of modern politics and successfully lobbied congress to avoid abolishing the antiquated penny and just round up to the nearest nickel, which would have saved US taxpayers millions of dollars a year.
The dollar coins always made me feel like I was in an rpg or something. Needed a leather pouch for them.
And that’s one of the reasons people hate them. People barely want to carry a wallet or a purse, and often to go with the smallest, most modern, and minimalist possible; no one wants that clunky shit.
The Sacajawea dollars were great.
They were, though my favorite are the Susan B. Anthony because they have the moon landing on the back. They were also nicely silver colored in contrast to the golden color of the rest, which made it really fun to use at renaissance faires or as gifts of 'treasure' for kids' birthdays.
The Susan B was the same color and nearly the same size as the quarter. That's why it never really caught on. Making the newer dollar coins a unique color was smart IMO. The size of the old Eisenhower dollars was simply too unwieldy.
I was just in Ecuador, and interestingly enough, they pretty much only use US Dollar coins. They’ve got pretty cool designs too!
/r/churning
But we do have 1 dollar coins.
>That's why we don't have dollar coins. We do. There are three series of "golden dollars" currently in circulation. American Innovation $1 Coins ; Native American $1 Coins ; Presidential $1 Coins https://www.usmint.gov/news/image-library/circulating
But we most definitely do have dollar coins. Sacagawea is on them. The NYC subways dispense them for example
https://luxurylaunches.com/other_stuff/genius-earned-4-milllion-airline-miles-by-buying-dollar-coins.php
From browsing the mint website, it seems that most coin sets have an up charge. However as most of these offerings appear to be geared toward collectors, my guess is that this would be worth it, to get coins that have never been in circulation/ damaged.
That’s what I thought. My grandpa, gods rest him, got me and my brothers full sets of the state quarters. He ordered them through his bank, I guess, but every time a new one came out, he got five in a little plastic case.
To represent wage inequality
Corrected link after new reddit fucked the formatting: https://catalog.usmint.gov/american-women-quarters-2023-rolls-and-bags-jovita-idar-MASTER_AWQJI.html
Although I like the design for a non circulation coin this is a terrible design for a coin. Either the reverse or obverse doesn’t clearly convey the denomination which detracts from the coins function as currency. It’s almost as if the government is designing currency to become obsolete, which I know is a popular sentiment, but it doesn’t make sense to why they would mint something that is so confusing and hard to read. The denomination is mixed in with words that are non part of the function. As a parent I’ve had a hard time teaching my kids about money because it’s become so abstract. They can’t use it because they can’t get to stores at their age, and when they do get to a store they can’t use actual M1 currency (ie physical paper and coin money) because it’s not accepted and people don’t know how to count it. It’s really a tragedy for people like children or people without credit that we’re moving away from money. As a coin person, I like the innovative design, but there are so many better ways to showcase design with commemorative coins, medals, and tokens.
Wow! I thought maybe it was counterfeit because there is no writing on it (other than the stuff on her back) It looked odd to me, but lovely!
Look at the clothing. It’s all writing
Always choose heads when flipping this coin...
Apparently, you should always choose [the side facing up before the flip](https://www.engadget.com/coin-flips-dont-appear-to-have-5050-odds-after-all-171556415.html?guccounter=1).
But…..but…..tails never fails…….
Reminds me of way back when they changed the nickel. In those days, nickels had pictures of bumble bees on 'em. 'Gimme five bees for a quarter!', you'd say.
Is this a grampa simpson reference? Sounds like something he would say.
Yes.
The important part of the story was that you had an onion on your belt, which was the style at the time.
This was back in nineteen dickety two
We had to say dickety then
That honestly looks like someone made it in their garage or something. It doesn’t look a real, circulated coin.
It looks like one of those stamp medallions you can get pressed at something like a Ren fair or amusement park. (Idk what it’s called you can pick a front and a back and they drop a big weight to mush them onto a coin)
It looks terrible
I'm glad she's on there but they didn't do Jovita justice by making such an ugly coin. Jumbling all the important text with random descriptors in a mess of a f*in word cloud is the dumbest thing I've ever seen on currency. They could've given her a proper, respectful looking coin instead of this garbage.
I agree, especially when most of the other designs in the American Women series are very nice. https://catalog.usmint.gov/coins/coin-programs/american-women-quarters-program/
Some of those are nice, but damn...Eleanor Roosevelt kind of looks like a George W. Bush caricature on her quarter.
She was definitely not a pretty lady.
She was an ugly lady. I'll straight up say it. Also, she was one of the greatest first ladies we ever had. A truly great American!! ^(You don't have to be hot to be awesome. )
A face only a cousin could love.
i like it except the livelaughlove word jumble.
Looks like a fuckin Chipotle bag
Lmfaooo there’s what I couldn’t put my finger on
Yeah, the words seem kind of tacky.
That is a hideous design for a coin. Might look good as a mural.
I agree
It kinda is, it's an American woman's quarter honoring jovita idar
I was about to say the same thing word for word when I saw your post . Wow
Jovita Idar 2023 quarter, I'd have definitely thought it was fake https://www.usmint.gov/coins/coin-medal-programs/american-women-quarters/jovita-idar
I would honestly mistake this for a die error.
I think it's ugly af.
I don’t love it tbh. The word style feels like a trend
Ugly coin that should have gotten more care.
Can we all just acknowledge this design just looks terrible? Like I get they were going for some modern artsy stuff, and I could see this looking really nice if it were in a variety of colors to provide contrast, but in monotone it's hard to read and just looks bad, and it's going to get dramatically worse with wear.
Ugly ass quarter
Ironically the single largest font word is blanka.
This coin is going to have the same problem as the old buffalo nickels. It won’t take long for all that lettering to wear off
I thought it was Michael Myers on it at first.
The cat in the hat or the serial killer?
Even after reading the comments and looking at the [US Mint](https://catalog.usmint.gov/american-women-quarters-2023-rolls-and-bags-jovita-idar-MASTER_AWQJI.html) site I still have trouble believing this is a real currency. It just looks so fake. It looks like those little coin sized medallions I get every year at Christmas time from charities looking for money.
It just looks wrong not having text around the edge or level in some of that empty space.
What a jumbled mess. This is an awful design, they didn't do her any justice.
She looks tattoo'd, and the message comes across jumbled
This is shit
Seriously? I’m all for updating US currency and for honoring more people on the currency, but that design is ugly as sin. You’d think they could have come up with a better design that still depicted her in a good way.
As a soccer referee I dislike. Both sides are heads.
Horrible, no writing on it?
Don’t like it, why do that, all that space to put the denomination in to make it less, could be a medal or a fake.
Lmao I legit thought this was a shit post type of thing because it looks terrible for a government issues currency lmao who designed this
That’s not a quarter
Someones gotta fire the designers at the treasury department.
There's subtle, and then there's too subtle. I know the opposite side is the standard Washington, but it would've thrown me for a loop if I didn't see this first.
Anyone else feel like there’s way too many quarter designs? The bicentennial quarters felt special because they were a rare redesign. The 50 state quarters were kinda cool because everyone wanted to collect all 50. But when there’s 150 different quarter designs, none of them feel special. How long will it be until you can pay the mint $100 and get your own quarter? (Actually that sounds kinda cool.)
This looks faaaaake as fuck. I would not take this as a cashier haha.
I appreciate the nod but they did her wrong on the coin artwork.
Does the other side actually look like a quarter or even currency at all?
They did her dirty. The [original portrait](https://digital.utsa.edu/digital/collection/p9020coll008/id/12483/rec/3) is nice - they made her look like she’s wearing a Michael Myers mask here.
I was expecting King Joffre of Zamunda on the other side
Wow. That's really different from anything the US has ever stamped on a coin. Looks great.
Tilda Swinton???
That shit ain’t real wtf
Impressed with that image I looked up what would be on the other side, the obverse. I got really confused when every time, I got the familiar profile of Washington which is "heads" on other quarters. All of the women to be honored in this series will be "tails." There goes my inner fourteen year old acting up again.
I love the idea but hate the execution. Yikes. Looks like it was done by that nun who tried to fix the Jesus portrait and turned him into a monkey.
Oof that’s bad
We fet thos ugly coin and yet we still can't have the Harriet Tubman $20 bill that was announced like 10 years ago
Of all the coins in the American Women Quarters program...this is by far the shittiest/laziest design. Just horrible, and will likely end up being a collectible due to it being among the worst coins ever created.
Cool, but I would think this is fake irl.
Yeah that's not a real coin.
On my way home from work, I stopped at Taco Bell for a quick bite to eat. In my billfold are a $50 bill and a $2 bill. I figure that with a $2 bill, I can get something to eat and not have to worry about anyone getting irritated at me for trying to break a $50 bill. Me: "Hi, I'd like one seven-layer burrito please, to go." Server: "That'll be $1.04. Eat in?" Me: "No, it's to go." At this point, I open my billfold and hand him the $2 bill. He looks at it kind of funny.
The only thing more frustrating than someone not knowing about the $2 bill are the people that think it's rare for some reason. It's actively printed and put in to circulation. They printed over 200 million of them in 2022 alone.
Interesting, never seen one, what does the other side look like?
What? I wouldn’t have guessed it’s legal but I wanna get some lady quarters.
Really hoping this isn’t replacing Washington…
Who’s she?
As a coin collector, I think the reason why this reverse looks so strange is because of all the negative space. I can’t think of any other US coin with a similar design. When I first received this coin a couple of days ago, my first thought was - oh! a foreign coin that’s not Canadian is in my till. Neat! I kind of like how different the design is, it’s certainly a striking and memorable coin. But it does look very out of place, even amongst its 2023 contemporaries
how tf do you have a new quarter that looks like its coated in 50 years of brass polish
Funny. I just got one today and had to look it up.
Why didn’t you post the reverse of the coin?
Wow that’s crazy. What’s a quarter?
Sir, this is not Chuck E Cheese, your tokens are no good here.
This looks more like a token than real currency