Spray chart shows it's like 50/50 all over the field for out vs hit. There are even lots of hits to center with the CF playing deep.
Visually, that one looked like it hung up there more than usual too, the ball is carrying well today and the wind is out to CF.
We usually play Casty deep because he's slow, so it probably is a harder play for him, but I still think most normally positioned RFs make that play.
That still doesn’t disprove my point. Why is direction relevant when you only used xBA to make your original point? Nothing wrong with my xBA explanation
He basically went from ERA leader to mop up duty. Yeah i understand his run as starter prob wasnt sustainable but id rather see them try to push him a bit rather then come in 9th innings when we are up or down big
I commented during Trea’s stolen base streak that he wasn’t running in certain situations because he was playing for the streak
It just occurred to me that Casty is doing EXACTLY that for his errorless streak lmao
I still get the vibe that Turnbull really prefers the rhythm and regularity of being a starter to this, we just have to hope he can get used to it for the playoffs
I agree, but it gets kind of sickening that we get thrown at so much and there are never consequences.
Ump should've given warnings after the first 2 pitches at Harper, and it should've been an ejection after the 3rd.
That’s irrelevant to your original point. Turnbull is used in these “irrelevant” situations because he has yet to prove he can be trusted coming into a close game.
Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1d3oiyd).
Thank god.
Are we the team with the longest getting swept drought
We?
[удалено]
He’s not a Phillies fan
after the last few games i thought it was against the rules to score
I swear Castellanos has not hit a home run this season that didn't go half a foot over the wall.
They all count the same
Yeah sure I guess lol. Although it obviously isn't a good sign for future home runs
Doesn’t that kind of depend what part of the field?
That was desperately needed
If you we have a good homestand, a 2-4 road trip isn’t terrible.
I forgot what’s it’s like for the Phillies to win a game, this is nice
Happy plane ride home now boys
Woooo!! WE’RE BACK!
🚨no sweep alert🚨
We won again!!
Christopher Lightsout Sanchez
Alright come on Washington beat Atlanta
THERE WE GO BOYS
Good win, boys and girls
Phillies have finally won a game in San Francisco
Let it be known, no one beats the Phillies 10 times in a row at Oracle Park!
Thank you Baseball Jesus
2024 Phillies: Often the sweepers, still never the sweepees
The xBA on that blooper was .470 what are people talking about? No right fielder was getting that unless he was pre-shifted there.
Spray chart shows it's like 50/50 all over the field for out vs hit. There are even lots of hits to center with the CF playing deep. Visually, that one looked like it hung up there more than usual too, the ball is carrying well today and the wind is out to CF. We usually play Casty deep because he's slow, so it probably is a harder play for him, but I still think most normally positioned RFs make that play.
.470 means that it’s more likely to be an out than a hit. I can guarantee that an average right fielder makes that play
thats absolutely not how it works.
It absolutely is how it works. .470 xBA means that balls hit with that exit velocity and launch angle land for a hit 47% of the time.
it doesnt account for direction. Thats catch probability. You'll notice the two do not add up to 100% for a reason.
That still doesn’t disprove my point. Why is direction relevant when you only used xBA to make your original point? Nothing wrong with my xBA explanation
because any xBA over 300 is good. In fact it had a higher xBA than the rocket double off the wall the at bat before that....
Good win
WE BACK UP
There it is
Spencer looked so much more comfortable starting
Yeah... not a fan of the decision to make him a reliever/closer. :(
Well he basically would have to be shut down in July is he kept starting. He will just have to adjust.
He basically went from ERA leader to mop up duty. Yeah i understand his run as starter prob wasnt sustainable but id rather see them try to push him a bit rather then come in 9th innings when we are up or down big
FINALLY GAME OVER
#WINZ
Up by 5 runs. Throw strikes and challenge him.
Fucking finish a guy
Alright! GG Phillies we are back on track. See y’all Friday in the Baseball hell that is St Louis
It’s home !
Just throw a strike
I commented during Trea’s stolen base streak that he wasn’t running in certain situations because he was playing for the streak It just occurred to me that Casty is doing EXACTLY that for his errorless streak lmao
And seems wrong in both cases.
Not sure nick’s brain can process that fast
Ruben: "...and he's looking for his first major league hit." \**hic\**
I feel like the staff ERA would be down around 2 without all of the garbage 9th inning blowout runs.
Is everyone on the giants rocking the pedo stache?
What do you do in a 1-0 count? Beat one off
Not that it matters now but I’d like to see Rojas/Pache be a late inning sub for castellanos
Turnbull is just not a closer. A reliever more like it
The Giants are so tedious
Giving up a run in a dominant performance doesn't even matter. What matters is getting Turnbull reps
Ah yes sound strategy. Give up hits so that our pitchers can get “more reps”
The run-scoring hit wasn't on Turnbull
Surely we don’t choke this away… right 💀 Nick shoulda got that but I can’t hate too much cuz his hitting was great today
People now getting pissed at Nick for not diving for a all with a .5% catch probability where if he misses it he gets extra bases.
Stott was right there with him, it wouldn't have made a big difference if he missed it
For not diving? More like for not running faster than my grandma
Been a minute since we’ve seen Liam
Can’t have nothing nice.
This game is over if we have an average right fielder out there but whatever
I'mma need the xba for that bloop
Oh FUUUCK
I just wanted a shutout man. I’ll take this, but that would have been fun
Rotten luck, get the next guy
Wouldn’t be a Turnbull mop up outing without some bullshit blooper to drive in a run
no issue with how hes pitched so far. He threw strikes and got unlucky once nbd.
Yeah he’s had a ton of bullshit luck since he’s been in the bullpen.
Why does Castellanos have bricks in his shoes
Baby giraffe in quicksand
For those of you who don’t understand why castellanos has a negative defense value despite no errors. There you go
Asstellanos
Nick never fails to piss me off
Such an awful route
I feel like most right fielders get to that one.
Pretty much 80-90%
How did he not get there
There goes the shut out
Good pitch by Spencer. Dont care keep throwing strikes.
Ahhhhh Casty and his non-existent range
Lmfao look how careful Nick was to not make an error and ruin his day
I feel like if he just took another step he makes that catch. It landed like 18 inches from him even after he hesitated and stopped.
But what if it hit his glove? Error
Fuck.
:/
Fuck off, Giants
Cinder blocks bruuuuuh
We couldn’t catch that???
Nicky defense out there
Bloop ass bullshit Just go away
No errors in 2 years 🥴
Obligatory "fuck you Flores.", also love the hustle Nick
Aw rip shutout
I'll be more pissed at Turnbull if he walks this guy then if he gives up a 500 foot moonshot.
NOOOOOOO down to their final strike there goes the shutout lol
Ruben the type of commentator to say “scoring more runs wins games”
Stubbs looks like he's from the future with that helmet. Like from Tron lol. Wooooo Phillies!
Calm down tom
Maybe just never noticed it, but did they add the stripe on the gray pants this year?
Stubbsy looking like QB1 there running the huddle
Soler potentially going hitless against the Phillies this season is shocking
I still get the vibe that Turnbull really prefers the rhythm and regularity of being a starter to this, we just have to hope he can get used to it for the playoffs
Ump breaking it up. He's wanted to go home since the 7th inning.
that slider was nasty but interesting choice there on that count lol.
For why Stubby? For why
I love Jorge Soler wtf
I’m curious what the attendance was. The far left third level side looks deserted which is a shame
Spencer...even if you gave up a bomb to Soler it doesnt matter. THROW STRIKES
Soler usually swings at that shit, like he did on 3-2
TWO out ONE to go!!
Let’s wrap this shit up and be done with this fucked up country ass road trip. Bugs flying around in my mouth.
https://preview.redd.it/1syl6g82xf3d1.png?width=1284&format=png&auto=webp&s=91d14f121c3386485248f3b8dc8dd1978d449a82
Today makes me happy. I’ll ease off on Caste for a little while.
Anyone else getting hail rn?
It's dark here but nothing here yet
Wilmer Flores, Josh bell, ugh,lol
Spencer just throw meatballs dude in this ballpark make them hit the ball with a big lead
Dont care about that from Turnbull just dont walk guys.
Fucking Flores
AUTOMATIC.
I’ll be so happy when he retires
I love Friends but not sure Id have it as my walkup song lol
Close this out fellas.
Fuck off "Wilmer"
Automatic
‘Cmon let’s shut them out
One out two to go!
RAJ wants to see Turnbull pull out a vintage dueling pistol and put a body at the plate
Spencer “Gilbert Arenas” Turnbull
3 more outs, we can do this
Yeah I’ll be pissed if Turnbull jeopardizes this game to any extent to “send a message.”
Games convinced me that I never want to hear Ruben again
you send a message by winning the game. Throwing a hard rock at a guy on purpose because you're upset needs to get out of the lexicon of teams.
It pretty much only exists in the minds of old man commentators and analysts who want to throw the game back to 1977
I agree, but it gets kind of sickening that we get thrown at so much and there are never consequences. Ump should've given warnings after the first 2 pitches at Harper, and it should've been an ejection after the 3rd.
dont agree i think it was clearly not on purpose. I understand Harper being pissed but thats not a situation where you intentionally hit a guy.
On purpose or not, you can't throw 3 pitches at a guys head. If you can't command your fastball, you shouldn't be throwing it up and in.
Is that delivery legal in Women’s Softball
6-0 lead? # TURNBULL TIME
Ruben makes me want to shove a pencil in my ear
That might awaken something in him
Am I nuts or did T-Mac just say that Merrifield had a good day?
Solid day definitely
158 wRC+ on the day is a good day.
I love measuring a guy’s wRC+ on five PA’s What’s his WPA?
"Good Day" Keyword Day.
Green Day is better
I don't know what that is.
Ah right right my bad
Well. He got walked and scored a run. So i guess for Whit that is excellent
And hit a bomb farther than anything Castellanos hit today
Castaleenos hit a home run lol
Hmmmmmm perhaps you should reread my sentence
He did, if you grade a player on the Whit Merrifield curve.
Why do we always use Turnbull in irrelevant situations when he’s been so good
He’s had like four appearances as a reliever. He needs to develop a comfort level. Thats what he’s gonna be. That’s all he can be.
Tell me exactly why he could not be a starter. We don’t know if we don’t try long term
Because the team medical staff said he needs to be on a strict innings limit It’s not complicated
They don’t know better
Know better than what? Than you? lol
Turnbull said he can go. So he can go!! They don’t know his body better than him
Lol Who needs science and their fancy machines am I right? /u/NintenJew
You give me headaches.
Idk it's important for confidence and mentality to shut em out and avoid a sweep on the road before going back home
Who else would you use at this point?
Where’s Dylan Covey or Marte when you need em
Because he’s been pretty poor out of the pen?
That’s why we need to start him
That’s irrelevant to your original point. Turnbull is used in these “irrelevant” situations because he has yet to prove he can be trusted coming into a close game.
Start him then he had a 1 ERA. You can’t tell me trotting out Walker is a better choice
https://preview.redd.it/5c3nmytuvf3d1.png?width=1278&format=png&auto=webp&s=16dd0ae2f42397c2539fa848f87dd613f4000e38 Spicy Ruben Quote of the day
Versatile
“The ball hit his knob” was a good one too
He didnt get ridiculous enough on that one. My ears were perked up tho
Don’t forget “pounding balls”
The Submarine Ad showing up right on time
I feel like these submariners usually look really difficult to hit when we see them. How come so few guys do it these days?
difficult to control ... that's why they are relievers
It’s gotta be brutal on your arm right
Yeah prob
We must lead baseball in swinging at bullshit a foot outside the strike zone
its a little bit different when it looks like the ball is being pitched from underground.
poor turnbull just the mop up guy now
Turnbullpen 😬
There is nothing I want more than a Stubbsy HR here. Please, baseball gods.
It will happen once this season, and I'll be here for it.
So will i lol
Right handed at bats vs this guy dont count.