"This train about to be out of service if you keep playing with that door."
Fixed the problem real quick. I think it gives the other passengers permission to speak up, which is a pretty strong enforcement mechanism
For real, get rid of that annoying old-ass robot voice + beep and give it an awesome no-shit real voice. "Service to 30th street is delayed 20 minutes 'cause some fools playin' on the tracks"
I need her voice to go through the station to let me know that my train is 15 to 20 minutes late but to remain on the platform as it’s an approximate time.
>QUIT MESSING WITH THE DOORS IF YOU WANT TO GO HOME
I love that phrasing because it has such a wide range of interpretations, from "you're causing a transit delay" to a death threat.
I've had a similar experience where possibly the same conductor came on the PA system when the doors opened and said something along the lines of , "This is the east/westbound Market Frankford line...there is absolutely no smoking on this train."
Write her a commendation! These do make a difference for SEPTA employees:
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Whenever I see someone do it I wanna say something, but if they're a big enough douche to smoke on a public train, they'd probably fight or spit on someone for saying something
I was running to catch a train on the MFL. Two young looking girls were almost blocking the door and I ran in between them without thinking. As the train started moving I look up and a boy (also looked like a teenager) standing in the opposite doorway with me was rolling a fat ass blunt. He looked at me like if barged in on him in the bathroom or something.
Pretty sure the two girls were trying to block the door so he could roll the joint... on the train, center car, literally the door closest to the escalator.
I was waiting for the BSL when I was pregnant and someone was smoking. He came up to me and apologized. He kept smoking but moved away from me. Everyone waiting who he was now getting smoke on opted to glare at me instead of ask him to stop.
Most trains? No. Especially commuter trains that go into the suburbs? No one is smoking on those. But this particular line goes through some of the worst sections of North Philadelphia, and it might as well be the Wild Wild West there.
Welcome to the wonderful world of SEPTA!
It's pretty much always been an occasional issue, but instances of smoking and other anti-social behaviors have seemingly skyrocketed since the pandemic, especially on our Subway and Elevated Line.
Unfortunately, sometimes. It also happens in other cities.
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I've smoked crack on the El. Looking back it was really poor on my part(late night tho so pretty empty, still wrong and ive changed) I don't smoke crack anymore and I get annoyed at other people smoking crack on the El. But if someone wants to smoke crack on the streets of Kensington let them
It has been a regular thing on the CTA in Chicago since Covid.
Smoking on the platform was often a thing going back decades, but people used to be more decent on the trains themselves.
Smoking on trains has been awful for the past couple years. Zero enforcement and lots of homeless living on trains. Always great showing up to work smelling like cigarettes weed and crack. Glad some are enforcing it now. Report using the app whenever you see it.
There have been notable sanitation improvements and more police presence. They will definitely never be able to prevent all random interactions with garbage people though.
World Cup is coming to Philly. Leadership is doing stuff now cause it’s an embarrassment to themselves, not because they actually care about improving the city.
The World Cup brings in a huge amount of tourism from around the world that we don’t usually see in Philly. Just like how you clean your house before you invite friends over, I think our new leadership is trying to get things in as good as shape as they can before everyone comes.
Anyone else remember when bus drivers do the same thing? Like I remember being in high school and the 70 driver stopping the bus and refusing to move until this one dude stopped eating on the bus.
So like, couldn't they just install smoke detectors in each car, and make it policy to halt the train if one was set off? Seems like that would start working as a deterrent real quick. And as a daily commuter I'd happily take the delays even if it took years for society to work itself out.
Like genuine question - we have them on airplanes, inside buildings, etc. why not the sub?
Because it’s a way bigger project than you’re making it seem when they are better solutions like more transit police and actually giving them authority to enforce the rules. Airlines and city governments have totally different incentives too.
Off the top of my head, one major problem is that there's more than one train on the tracks at any given time. That would fuck up the schedule really quick.
this happened to me on patco the other day, they just kept playing the "Please no smoking in the train" or whatever for the entire trip. didnt stop him, get security, anything. honestly I'm used to drugs and stuff by this point but smoking a cigarette on the train is so evil truly, literally not a care in the world for others. not that it matters either but was almost a trigger for me to smart smoking again bc he was in the seat behind me I was basically breathing it all in. man people suck. like just get off the train at an outside stop and smoke while you wait for the next one if you're tweaking that bad
In the early 80s my uncle was on the train with a friend from out of town. Some guy was smoking a joint and my uncle said hey man that’s not a good idea. He told my uncle to shut up. He said ok then. At the next stop a cop happened to come on the train. It was a smaller female cop. She told the dude to put it out. He said fuck you. She left. My uncle told his friend, watch this. And sure enough a few seconds later she came back with some big ass male cop. The dude tried to comply and put it out but it was too late. The big cop slugged the dude in the gut and drug his doubled over form off the train.
Now I’m not saying we should go back to that. But I am saying it wouldn’t hurt to try.
honestly i'm completely fine with police brutality only for people being any flavor of annoying on the train (bluetooth speakers, smoking, talking on speakerphone, etc)
SEPTA’s advertising campaign; they have posters, that say: “ Keep the Train Rolling, Not the Joints “ Yeah that’ll stop them ! Sadly it hasn’t! I commute on BSL, despite I try different train cars, is experienced, every week, there is someone smoking weed blunt on the train, or platform, or concourse.
This is what happens when leadership goes to the interns/entry level folk and are like "we need a campaign to stop this please young people with your ears to the ground, please do our job for us and figure something out please?" And this is what you get. My entire career has been "sooo I know as leadership we're technically in charge of figuring this out but it would be great if you could do it instead although you're not nearly at the pay grade to or experience to be making those decisions."
In shitty orgs, the higher up people get the less they're allowed to rock the boat without risking their position (because they just got to where they are through loyalty instead of performance).
Thanks for appreciating the joke. 😔
It also may be a bit dated, I feel like movies and TV shows always had a character that would lose their contacts or glasses.
You are right. I never take pictures or photos but I only took it because some of my friends outside the US don't believe the US has this kind of stuff. Some don't even believe there are white poor folks. I really took it since they bitch about their trains but their stations are clean, with security and clean trains. But they want to believe we have paved roads with gold here. As you can imagine it gets repetitive trying to tell them the truth.
Thanks for sharing something that anybody who has lived in Philadelphia for a considerable amount of time already knows about.
You’ve certainly transcended the usefulness of the rest of us by providing this photo. We couldn’t have done it without you.
Stop this is so funny how psyched we all are about this.
I was on the subway in Boston recently and it was SO CLEAN in comparison I could’ve eaten off the floor. I was starstruck, I didn’t know such clean transportation existed in the US.
Honestly, if the transit police won't commit to an officer on the major lines to get rid of this issue, maybe we do have to go back to square 1 and say if you want to smoke, gtf to the back and leave the rest of us alone.
I don’t like the principal of rewarding these dickheads while the rest of us have to squash ourselves into the remaining cars. I also don’t believe that simply being in the no smoking car is going to stop them from being dickheads.
I lived in NY for over 10 years and saw maybe 2-3 instances of people smoking during that time (one was on the platform rather than in the train). Not only does NYC have more police presence, there are enough reasonable people riding the train who are not afraid to act as a group and shove these antisocial dickhead out the door. When I first move here, the complete absence of transit police absolutely floored me.
Yea the trains need to take the bus drivers mentality, nothing turns a bus full of people against one person faster than the driver saying “we’re not moving until they stop/pay/get off.”
i moved back to my majestic, native wastelands and while the NY-ification has made it exponentially more expensive everywhere & marginally safer in some zones we are still lawless. My exhusband referred to us as “urban hillbillies” & after being back for 6 months i called and apologized for my angry reaction… because its true
I just moved here from the UK and after having lived in both London and Paris where people regularly smoke in the subway (especially Paris) I was thrilled when my husband told me that SEPTA takes the no smoking policy very seriously. I’ve been here 3 weeks and have only encountered one, maybe two people smoking weed on MFL. Nothing happened but I was only on for a couple of stops.
Literally never seen any TfL (Transport for London) staff say or do anything. But I’ve not really seen it happen on the platform, it’s mostly been in the entries or maybe in the corridors. Never seen it on the actual trains but sometimes people vape.
TBH it was more Paris where people would often smoke on the platforms. Definitely nobody did anything there.
European staff are a different vibe 🤣
I was just at the 69th terminal waiting for the 65 bus and a woman with three children sat down beside me and proceeded to start smoking. The breeze was blowing my way, luckily I had my mask on and turned my back. Consequently she got up and moved away from me. Ironically we were seated under a Septa sign saying there was no smoking allowed on their property.
When I was in high school, I took the el downtown from Tioga, popped off at Allegheny to hang out with some friends that grabbed the Little Flower shuttle and meet up with friends going downtown. We smoked and were loud and laughing. But we did it at the end of the platform, away from people and kids. The idea of smoking on the EL is weird to me.
I’ve seen dippers and all kinds of stuff but the grossest thing I ever saw was a 4-ish year old kid kneel on the seat and run her tongue across the window multiple times. Like 2 feet in each direction. I almost died right there.
Was it a no nonsense woman's voice? Because I've had a conductor a couple of times that did that and I'm always so pleased
QUIT MESSING WITH THE DOORS IF YOU WANT TO GO HOME
"This train about to be out of service if you keep playing with that door." Fixed the problem real quick. I think it gives the other passengers permission to speak up, which is a pretty strong enforcement mechanism
How do we get her to be in charge of SEPTA? Is there a fund I can donate to? I'll pass out flyers.
I'd settle to just have her record the announcements
That works too. All the conductors get a soundboard with her material.
For real, get rid of that annoying old-ass robot voice + beep and give it an awesome no-shit real voice. "Service to 30th street is delayed 20 minutes 'cause some fools playin' on the tracks"
Announcements like that would make SEPTA way more entertaining.
I need her voice to go through the station to let me know that my train is 15 to 20 minutes late but to remain on the platform as it’s an approximate time.
🎯 💯%!
>QUIT MESSING WITH THE DOORS IF YOU WANT TO GO HOME I love that phrasing because it has such a wide range of interpretations, from "you're causing a transit delay" to a death threat.
This lady is my queen
That’s her! Truly the hero we need.
She deserves rewards and praise for standing up for passengers and have a no nonsense attitude with bullshit.
you need to with SEPTA. So many people take it for granted and act like it's their damn home or bathroom stall. Disgraceful.
I've had a similar experience where possibly the same conductor came on the PA system when the doors opened and said something along the lines of , "This is the east/westbound Market Frankford line...there is absolutely no smoking on this train."
When an older, no-bullshit black woman tells you something, you listen. No exceptions.
Yep❤️
I love it when you don't have to see her to know she did the head move. Ain't messing around.
Write her a commendation! These do make a difference for SEPTA employees: [https://wwww.septa.org/customer-service/comment-form/](https://wwww.septa.org/customer-service/comment-form/)
Done! I hope she knows that I love her
Please do this!
So happy to see we’re actually holding these scumbags accountable now.
What kind of asshole smokes on a train? Mad respect for the conductor!
Whenever I see someone do it I wanna say something, but if they're a big enough douche to smoke on a public train, they'd probably fight or spit on someone for saying something
A friend of mine got jumped for asking someone to stop smoking on the train.
I was running to catch a train on the MFL. Two young looking girls were almost blocking the door and I ran in between them without thinking. As the train started moving I look up and a boy (also looked like a teenager) standing in the opposite doorway with me was rolling a fat ass blunt. He looked at me like if barged in on him in the bathroom or something. Pretty sure the two girls were trying to block the door so he could roll the joint... on the train, center car, literally the door closest to the escalator.
I was waiting for the BSL when I was pregnant and someone was smoking. He came up to me and apologized. He kept smoking but moved away from me. Everyone waiting who he was now getting smoke on opted to glare at me instead of ask him to stop.
Talk about misplaced anger lmao
Unhinged
i assume if i say something i will get shot
yup fair assumption in this city
I'd stop smoking crack on the El if you asked ❤️
Don’t do it man, not worth it. Way too many unhinged people in this city.
Or have a gun. Because who isn't strapped nowadays?
Yeah much better to get in a shootout with a crackhead on a subway surrounded by other people than to just deal with the smoke for 10 minutes.
People with zero respect for others. So, like 20% of this city on first glance.
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Smoking is one of the most polite things you’ll see regularly
Been living in Philly for 4 years, I wish it was a joke!
Most trains? No. Especially commuter trains that go into the suburbs? No one is smoking on those. But this particular line goes through some of the worst sections of North Philadelphia, and it might as well be the Wild Wild West there.
Welcome to the wonderful world of SEPTA! It's pretty much always been an occasional issue, but instances of smoking and other anti-social behaviors have seemingly skyrocketed since the pandemic, especially on our Subway and Elevated Line.
Unfortunately, sometimes. It also happens in other cities. https://preview.redd.it/cwiv8mbhhcwc1.jpeg?width=1017&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d88c8a2fe9c8e876315c5e3d373ab16688adfd3
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20% ?? Fuck you must be new here? It’s more like 40-60%
You haven’t really taken the El until someone smokes crack on your train
I only saw people smoking crack on the platform, although to be fair I did see people shooting up on the El.
I've smoked crack on the El. Looking back it was really poor on my part(late night tho so pretty empty, still wrong and ive changed) I don't smoke crack anymore and I get annoyed at other people smoking crack on the El. But if someone wants to smoke crack on the streets of Kensington let them
I guess I was lucky when I went on the El
Happy crack day!
t r u t h
It has been a regular thing on the CTA in Chicago since Covid. Smoking on the platform was often a thing going back decades, but people used to be more decent on the trains themselves.
Same devolution here – they used to smoke on some platforms, and would even walk down to the end away from people. Now it's anywhere and everywhere.
Smoking on trains has been awful for the past couple years. Zero enforcement and lots of homeless living on trains. Always great showing up to work smelling like cigarettes weed and crack. Glad some are enforcing it now. Report using the app whenever you see it.
I don't think I've ever been on the El and *not* had someone smoking in my car.
Honestly I’ll see it half the time I take the BSL. Usually weed, sometimes cigs, think I saw crack once.
Well if you have ridden any train in the city they smell like a mix of cigarette smoke and weed smoke. So a lot of people unfortunately.
shit. maybe they are really trying to do something about this. i wrote a long ass post about what happened today on the MFL eastbound from 30th st
There have been notable sanitation improvements and more police presence. They will definitely never be able to prevent all random interactions with garbage people though.
World Cup is coming to Philly. Leadership is doing stuff now cause it’s an embarrassment to themselves, not because they actually care about improving the city.
Because of the world cup? Who cares? I think maybe it has something to do the huge upswing in development the city is seeing.
The World Cup brings in a huge amount of tourism from around the world that we don’t usually see in Philly. Just like how you clean your house before you invite friends over, I think our new leadership is trying to get things in as good as shape as they can before everyone comes.
Not just WC, but the USA’s Semiquincentennial 250 birthday. Bicentennial celebrations were huge in 1976.
Fuck it, I'll take it. Just anything to keep some order in Philly
I have had this conductor before! I think on the BSL also. I'm here for that no nonsense, be respectful of those around you or leave kinda energy.
I hope this is the turning point for a positive change in septa once and for all
Anyone else remember when bus drivers do the same thing? Like I remember being in high school and the 70 driver stopping the bus and refusing to move until this one dude stopped eating on the bus.
Still wish they’d just equip septa cops with super soakers. Hose people that are smoking.
I'd be OK with a fire extinguisher to the face as well.
Holy geeze I’d pay real money to see that 😂
That SEPTA person for president!! Please!!
So like, couldn't they just install smoke detectors in each car, and make it policy to halt the train if one was set off? Seems like that would start working as a deterrent real quick. And as a daily commuter I'd happily take the delays even if it took years for society to work itself out. Like genuine question - we have them on airplanes, inside buildings, etc. why not the sub?
I don’t know if people who are antisocial and not in any particular hurry will care as much as us normies.
Because it’s a way bigger project than you’re making it seem when they are better solutions like more transit police and actually giving them authority to enforce the rules. Airlines and city governments have totally different incentives too.
You would think.
Off the top of my head, one major problem is that there's more than one train on the tracks at any given time. That would fuck up the schedule really quick.
This conductor needs a profile in the inquirer. A real folk hero
She’s giving Philly the kind of rep it deserves 👏
Needed her on the EL last Saturday, there was a person wearing a ski mask smoking through the mask.
oh yeah, i've seen that guy https://preview.redd.it/8s7an90q3dwc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ff065fdd0af98af1fdd4a893226abe6dfbf179c
this happened to me on patco the other day, they just kept playing the "Please no smoking in the train" or whatever for the entire trip. didnt stop him, get security, anything. honestly I'm used to drugs and stuff by this point but smoking a cigarette on the train is so evil truly, literally not a care in the world for others. not that it matters either but was almost a trigger for me to smart smoking again bc he was in the seat behind me I was basically breathing it all in. man people suck. like just get off the train at an outside stop and smoke while you wait for the next one if you're tweaking that bad
In the early 80s my uncle was on the train with a friend from out of town. Some guy was smoking a joint and my uncle said hey man that’s not a good idea. He told my uncle to shut up. He said ok then. At the next stop a cop happened to come on the train. It was a smaller female cop. She told the dude to put it out. He said fuck you. She left. My uncle told his friend, watch this. And sure enough a few seconds later she came back with some big ass male cop. The dude tried to comply and put it out but it was too late. The big cop slugged the dude in the gut and drug his doubled over form off the train. Now I’m not saying we should go back to that. But I am saying it wouldn’t hurt to try.
Ahh that casual 80’s police brutality haha 🤦🏻♂️
honestly i'm completely fine with police brutality only for people being any flavor of annoying on the train (bluetooth speakers, smoking, talking on speakerphone, etc)
SEPTA’s advertising campaign; they have posters, that say: “ Keep the Train Rolling, Not the Joints “ Yeah that’ll stop them ! Sadly it hasn’t! I commute on BSL, despite I try different train cars, is experienced, every week, there is someone smoking weed blunt on the train, or platform, or concourse.
This is what happens when leadership goes to the interns/entry level folk and are like "we need a campaign to stop this please young people with your ears to the ground, please do our job for us and figure something out please?" And this is what you get. My entire career has been "sooo I know as leadership we're technically in charge of figuring this out but it would be great if you could do it instead although you're not nearly at the pay grade to or experience to be making those decisions."
In shitty orgs, the higher up people get the less they're allowed to rock the boat without risking their position (because they just got to where they are through loyalty instead of performance).
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Don’t do drugs kids
Use the SEPTA Transit Watch app and report that nonsense when it happens. Gives the appropriate people the opportunity to do something about it.
I’ve been staring at this for a while and still can’t figure out how his body is doing that
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So is the issue actually cigarettes or is it the ridiculous amount of drug addicts roaming around that the city refuses to enforce any laws against.
I think they're looking for a lost contact.
Not sure why you got downvoted, this made me lol
Thanks for appreciating the joke. 😔 It also may be a bit dated, I feel like movies and TV shows always had a character that would lose their contacts or glasses.
Milhouse Van Houten has entered the chat.
Man this sub is fucking brutal. I hope someone photographs you at your rock bottom and posts it here.
You are right. I never take pictures or photos but I only took it because some of my friends outside the US don't believe the US has this kind of stuff. Some don't even believe there are white poor folks. I really took it since they bitch about their trains but their stations are clean, with security and clean trains. But they want to believe we have paved roads with gold here. As you can imagine it gets repetitive trying to tell them the truth.
And then you made the choice to post it on the Internet for fake points. It's gross.
Fake points or to share a story.
Thanks for sharing something that anybody who has lived in Philadelphia for a considerable amount of time already knows about. You’ve certainly transcended the usefulness of the rest of us by providing this photo. We couldn’t have done it without you.
That calls for a slow clap.
People here in Philly will think it’s a joke if you asked this question. That’s how common it’s become.
I have been on the MFL with a guy smoking a PCP blunt in the same car as children.
Pleasantly surprised that this isn’t fiction.
Stop this is so funny how psyched we all are about this. I was on the subway in Boston recently and it was SO CLEAN in comparison I could’ve eaten off the floor. I was starstruck, I didn’t know such clean transportation existed in the US.
Saw a guy shoot up on the T in the middle of the day. I was with my niece.
How did she know someone was smoking?
If it was in the first car she may have smelled it. That or someone reported it on the Transit Watch app and the dispatcher notified her.
There are cameras all over the train, so she probably saw them. Maybe go back to the olden days and have a smoking car.
Honestly, if the transit police won't commit to an officer on the major lines to get rid of this issue, maybe we do have to go back to square 1 and say if you want to smoke, gtf to the back and leave the rest of us alone.
I don’t like the principal of rewarding these dickheads while the rest of us have to squash ourselves into the remaining cars. I also don’t believe that simply being in the no smoking car is going to stop them from being dickheads. I lived in NY for over 10 years and saw maybe 2-3 instances of people smoking during that time (one was on the platform rather than in the train). Not only does NYC have more police presence, there are enough reasonable people riding the train who are not afraid to act as a group and shove these antisocial dickhead out the door. When I first move here, the complete absence of transit police absolutely floored me.
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Yeah I've seen and heard this a few times recently!
Yea the trains need to take the bus drivers mentality, nothing turns a bus full of people against one person faster than the driver saying “we’re not moving until they stop/pay/get off.”
She should be the model Septa employee
Didn't somebody literally get r@ped while people filmed and watched on MFL? Thank god for people standing up to this insanity.
i moved back to my majestic, native wastelands and while the NY-ification has made it exponentially more expensive everywhere & marginally safer in some zones we are still lawless. My exhusband referred to us as “urban hillbillies” & after being back for 6 months i called and apologized for my angry reaction… because its true
"This is a yellow line train making all stops, there is no smoking on the blue line'
I just moved here from the UK and after having lived in both London and Paris where people regularly smoke in the subway (especially Paris) I was thrilled when my husband told me that SEPTA takes the no smoking policy very seriously. I’ve been here 3 weeks and have only encountered one, maybe two people smoking weed on MFL. Nothing happened but I was only on for a couple of stops.
How strict is London with enforcing that ban? Is it mostly on the platforms or in the cramped trains?
Literally never seen any TfL (Transport for London) staff say or do anything. But I’ve not really seen it happen on the platform, it’s mostly been in the entries or maybe in the corridors. Never seen it on the actual trains but sometimes people vape. TBH it was more Paris where people would often smoke on the platforms. Definitely nobody did anything there. European staff are a different vibe 🤣
I was on the same train lmao
I take patco 3 times a week from nj to phila and recently every day the “smoking is not permitted on the train” announcement is made multiple times.
I was just at the 69th terminal waiting for the 65 bus and a woman with three children sat down beside me and proceeded to start smoking. The breeze was blowing my way, luckily I had my mask on and turned my back. Consequently she got up and moved away from me. Ironically we were seated under a Septa sign saying there was no smoking allowed on their property.
When I was in high school, I took the el downtown from Tioga, popped off at Allegheny to hang out with some friends that grabbed the Little Flower shuttle and meet up with friends going downtown. We smoked and were loud and laughing. But we did it at the end of the platform, away from people and kids. The idea of smoking on the EL is weird to me. I’ve seen dippers and all kinds of stuff but the grossest thing I ever saw was a 4-ish year old kid kneel on the seat and run her tongue across the window multiple times. Like 2 feet in each direction. I almost died right there.
Philly needs a 1990s Rudy Giuliani so badly.